Players seek mediation of anthem controversy

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As the NFL and a coalition of players tries to resolve the anthem controversy, the players have suggested a vehicle for a possible agreement.

Per a source with knowledge off the situation, the players have requested, via letter from 49ers safety Eric Reid to NFL executive V.P. of football operations Troy Vincent, a formal mediation session. This would entail the hiring of a third party to preside over settlement talks aimed at reaching a global agreement.

Reid has asked former teammate Colin Kaepernick to attend the session, and Kaepernick has agreed. The players would like the mediation to encompass Kaepernick’s collusion grievance, too.

The NFL has not yet responded to the letter; Reid requested to hear from Vincent on Monday or earlier.

The request comes at a time when the players believe that the league does not have a clear approach to the issue or its desired outcome. As one source explained it, the players believe that Commissioner Roger Goodell and Vincent aren’t on the same page — and the players (along with everyone else) know that Cowboys owner Jerry Jones is at odds with the league, since Jones wants the league to compel the players to stand.

Mediation is a formal proceeding, but it does not lead to a ruling or any other formal outcome imposed by the mediator. The goal is to give the parties a structure for working out their differences, with a neutral party pushing them toward an acceptable middle ground.

46 responses to “Players seek mediation of anthem controversy

  1. This is so not happening. The moment Colin becomes part of the deal, the NFL won’t touch it. Nor should they. They are hurting their own cause.

  2. Did I miss something? Mediate what?no one has been suspended, fined, penalized, or anything for kneeling, they can still kneel all they want. They want the mediator to tell half the fans to top making mean comments about them?

  3. Another justification why I am not watching any football games. Mediation?? Neither will budge or aat least not agree on much of anything. Besides, all they are doing is nailing more nails into NFL’s and player’s coffins.

  4. The real issue is that people are so afraid of change and addressing the cruel history of this country that they change the narrative of the entire protest to make the victim the bad guy…atleast staying true to the true christian white man values set by our forefathers. Lets make a couple points.
    1. Kaep put himself on the the line for the justice and betterment of others and this country. Which such selflessness should be applauded
    2. Black Lives Matter brings an implied “also” at the end not an implied “only” in the beginning.
    3. If you cannot come up with a way for minorities to protest without having backlash from white america then you cannot judge the protest or its actual purpose.

  5. Mediation? With Kaepernick?

    Why is mediation needed? Either the players believe in what they are doing, and should continue to do it forever, or they don’t believe in it and are looking fpr a way to end this – in which case they should just stop “protesting”.

    And why the hell should the league include Kaepernick? He’s not even in the league anymore!

    This is turning into a serious turn-off for fans, and whether the players realize it or not, is going to hurt both the owners AND the players in declining interest

  6. If you truly love police officers, our flag, the American people, and the NFL, I have a great idea. Kaepernick’s initial protest was all about the videos that we all saw involving white police officers shooting unarmed black men, and the retaliation killing of four Dallas police officers. Kaepernick was hoping more and better police training would help out everyone, including the four Dallas cops. Nobody else seemed to care, so other NFL players joined in. If the NFL would donate money to go toward funding better police education, we’d be able to put an end to this, and everyone would be a winner. This is a compromise where everyone wins, and nobody has to give up anything. The NFL will surely get back any money they invest, and fans and sponsors on both sides of the issue will feel like they’re doing something positive, which was what Kaepernick was asking for all along. I can’t think of a better investment than our police officers.

  7. Don’t think any legal maneuvering by the players will add any smiles to the fans. They’ve already mediated and rejected it themselves.

  8. The players want.to force the league to force a team to sign Kaepernick. That isn’t mediation, it is extortion. That what the protests are all about anyway.

  9. Liberals are prone to wreck everything they touch. They are in a car-wreck and pressing the wrong peddle.

    Just like the Trump/Russian collusion. That’s going to swing a complete 180 when Hillary’s dealing Uranium to the Russians hits the fan. She’ll take Obama and Mueller down with her. How sweet.

    It’s like bugs into a bug-light.

  10. How do you mediate something that’s made up? “Let us run the league or we’ll never stand for the Anthem again”! LMAO!!! These are the biggest idiots I’ve ever seen in my life. Every time they do something they look worse and worse. I can’t wait for the big collusion trial 2018!

  11. We’ve all got something that we’d like improved or don’t think is fair. It’s America, so knock yourself out, try and make a change. But if you politicize a game with techniques that demean all Americans, don’t expect a lot of love from most fans who understand and appreciate the disrespected symbolism and want No politics.

  12. Mediate what? The players are currently allowed to kneel. Are they asking that everyone be required to like it?

  13. charliecharger says:
    November 5, 2017 at 5:15 pm
    If you truly love police officers, our flag, the American people, and the NFL, I have a great idea. Kaepernick’s initial protest was all about the videos that we all saw involving white police officers shooting unarmed black men, and the retaliation killing of four Dallas police officers. Kaepernick was hoping more and better police training would help out everyone, including the four Dallas cops. Nobody else seemed to care, so other NFL players joined in. If the NFL would donate money to go toward funding better police education, we’d be able to put an end to this, and everyone would be a winner. This is a compromise where everyone
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    Or the NFL players could simply interact in the communities that are struggling with everyday violence. Possibly teach citizens to listen when police officers are giving commands. Or possibly don’t engage in illegal activity’s. As for Kaepernick, he does not need to be parts of the process. He made his opinions known.

  14. What is there to mediate? You jerks want to kneel, so kneel. And accept the consequences of your actions. Period.

  15. There was a report on B/R that the Texans have talked about Kaepernick. I gotta think if Kaep is suing that might kill it but I am shocked we dont have a story on PFT about it.

    The fact is it might make sense. The oline showed today they cant block for a pocket passer, they are used to a guy that runs. This could in fact be a fit. (Except for that lawsuit and if this is another strongarm tactic no owner can afford to allow that precedent)

  16. charliecharger says:
    November 5, 2017 at 5:15 pm
    If you truly love police officers, our flag, the American people, and the NFL, I have a great idea. Kaepernick’s initial protest was all about the videos that we all saw involving white police officers shooting unarmed black men, and the retaliation killing of four Dallas police officers. Kaepernick was hoping more and better police training would help out everyone, including the four Dallas cops. Nobody else seemed to care, so other NFL players joined in. If the NFL would donate money to go toward funding better police education, we’d be able to put an end to this, and everyone would be a winner. This is a compromise where everyone wins, and nobody has to give up anything. The NFL will surely get back any money they invest, and fans and sponsors on both sides of the issue will feel like they’re doing something positive, which was what Kaepernick was asking for all along. I can’t think of a better investment than our police officers.

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    I agree with you. But I think the NFL has offered to put some money to their causes, yet here we are.

  17. EZ, Colin developed this stunt for very selfish reasons and his hiding behind the very real social realities in this country. He wore pig socks and wore clothing that were truly offensive to every single race in America. He has done everything in his power to make it impossible for any one to rehire him. He did not get fired for the protests and now he wants a starting job at top dollar that he did not earn. His actions were incredibly selfish. The events of Charlottesville and Trumps horrible response to it and calling the players name that caused white players and more black players to kneel. I believe only good is going to come out of this. But it will not happen over night. Mistrust between the police and the communities they serve did not happen over night. Colin’s message was one sided race blaming to divide black and white. That is not the message of Chris Long

  18. jimsnchz says:
    November 5, 2017 at 5:38 pm
    charliecharger says:
    November 5, 2017 at 5:15 pm
    If you truly love police officers, our flag, the American people, and the NFL, I have a great idea. Kaepernick’s initial protest was all about the videos that we all saw involving white police officers shooting unarmed black men, and the retaliation killing of four Dallas police officers. Kaepernick was hoping more and better police training would help out everyone, including the four Dallas cops. Nobody else seemed to care, so other NFL players joined in. If the NFL would donate money to go toward funding better police education, we’d be able to put an end to this, and everyone would be a winner. This is a compromise where everyone
    ————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————
    Or the NFL players could simply interact in the communities that are struggling with everyday violence. Possibly teach citizens to listen when police officers are giving commands. Or possibly don’t engage in illegal activity’s. As for Kaepernick, he does not need to be parts of the process. He made his opinions known.

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    Thats so obvious but surprisinly that despite all the noise there has only been a little (not zero) of guys doung that kind of work. I personally have come to honestly believe that the sticking point is that would require investing personal time and effort, and they are only interested in it enough to use up company time.

  19. I’ve been a die-hard football fan since I can’t remember when…. Tuned in Thursday Night for the college and NFL games. Watched all day Saturday and Sunday….and Monday Nights….

    I’ve watched an entire 3 Games this season………Roger…..You have a Problem……

  20. And if the third party mediator rules that players are paid employees and therefore should stand for the anthem if their organization demands it, will they abide by that decision?

  21. Lima, he did so for very selfish reasons? Which one, the one that cost him his job, millions or dollars or became enemy number 1 to mainstream white America? He did so for UNSELFISH reasons. The continued pov by way too many people in this country that minorities are 2nd class humans and are perceived to be a threat from jump. Calling cops pigs in anger for the allowed murder of human beings is very insignificant to the latter. Not all White people are racist (im white) not all cops are either because wellno one group of anything is all one thing. But people who have such control over taking someones life should be held to higher standard and we shouldnt police minorities as if they are already a criminal

  22. Vin Scully says he’ll never watch NFL again.

    NFL Kneeling Pigs had best be careful, alienating the people who pay your salary could be dangerous to your profession. You might have to actually work for a living if you keep this Krap up.

  23. 6 0 Rate This
    HeSaidSheSaid says:
    November 5, 2017 at 6:05 pm
    And if the third party mediator rules that players are paid employees and therefore should stand for the anthem if their organization demands it, will they abide by that decision?

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    I would think so. Unless there is some crazy sense of entitlement at play.

  24. I’m going to go out on a limb here and guess the list of people that the players want to mediate are:
    Barack Obama
    Al sharpton
    Jesse Jackson
    Maxine waters
    The rhinestone cowgirl
    Anyone who hates trump

  25. Can you imagine what would happen to us if we disobeyed our employer because we are unhappy about something else? Yeah, we’d get fired. Why is it the players expect the NFL to fix whatever it is they want? It’s ridiculous.

  26. EZ, Colin lost his job because of his play. He did not get rehired because he deliberately sabotaged every effort that was made on his behalf. There have been too many players and coaches who gave said he doesn’t have a job because of his play, not the protest. Colin’s comments about police are not only ignorant but inaccurate. To say that cops only hunt down and kill unarmed minorities helps no one. When did he go on ride alongs and see really what happens? Why do the Michael Brown’s happen? He would have known it had nothing to do with police training. And it wasn’t murder. The white cop who shot a black man is in jail and was convicted of murder. Colin is a con man using the very real social realities to get a job back he has not earned or deserves.

  27. Jones Smith says:
    November 5, 2017 at 6:32 pm
    I’m going to go out on a limb here and guess the list of people that the players want to mediate are:
    Barack Obama
    Al sharpton
    Jesse Jackson
    Maxine waters
    The rhinestone cowgirl
    Anyone who hates trump
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    I read comments like this and suddenly I understand why TV programs like that Oak Island scam and those Alaska bush fakes are still on the air.
    You guys have no clue.

  28. This issue keeps getting better and better.

    The players want mediation for an issue that they caused, continue to cause, and have power to stop. The league hasn’t put anything in place to stop them. So when they ask for this, they ask for Kap to be there, of course he agrees, that keeps him at the center of this.

    However, Kap also filed a collusion grievance, so the owners aren’t going to want anything to do with this.

    The players have no actual endgame for their protests, they are protesting just to protest at this point because they didn’t get their way. However, the only way that they have stated is getting Kap a job. So does that mean that they are protesting to get him a job or for inequalities?

    How many of them have helped Kap get in better shape or better prepared for playing, I don’t remember hearing any. How many of the players have gone and actually put there money where their mouth is so to speak? I have heard a couple have but overall, most just kneel or sit.

    The players have the perfect platform – they can go to any community and the media and fans will go there, but they don’t do that. They decide that their avenue to protest isn’t to go where the problem is, it is to protest at the place that affords them the platform and insult / anger / offend many of the people that afford them that ability as well.

    I think some of the players are starting to figure this out and are trying to use the league as a means to get out of the mess that they caused.

    Good Luck with that.

  29. Big, when it comes to social realities in this country, there can be no end game. Social injustices can only be solved and fixed with a constant vigilance. It seems the only time people take notice is when it is a lead story and then when it leaves the headlines, it leaves a majority of people’s minds. They players have been provided a platform they now to be patient and realize the work that needs to be done is by them going to these communities and observing and working with both sides. These issues can’t be solved overnight or by the Commissioner or the owners. But they certainly can help. But not during the season.

  30. lima – when it comes to fixing the social realities in this country or any other type of issue there must always be an endgame. There has to be something that you are striving towards.

    If I thought that they were actually trying to protest actually inequality, I might find it easier to listen to them. However, all any of them (aside from Kap) have said really is that they want to bring attention to inequalities or injustices. They bring no facts that bare out what they are saying that just saying nor do they say what will to them constitute attention being brought or what they want in order to state that social inequalities have been addressed. Without those, what is the point of the protest? We are protesting, okay well your issues have been addressed – no they haven’t okay, what needs to be done in order to address them – we don’t know. – That is ridiculous.

    Not to mention, they message has been lost, so the supposed point of their protest is being missed making the protest pointless. If they want to address the issues, or strive to protest the wrongs, find a way to protest that brings actual attention to your goals. They don’t seem to want to do that.

    Well that is unless, their goal isn’t social injustice, it is to get Kap a job.

  31. ezmoney365 says:
    November 5, 2017 at 6:13 pm
    Lima, he did so for very selfish reasons? Which one, the one that cost him his job, millions or dollars or became enemy number 1 to mainstream white America? He did so for UNSELFISH reasons.

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    He was sulking sulking on the bench because he had lost the starting position in training camp. When the press asked him why he would do nothing but sit on the bench (it was the whole time he was out there not just the anthem) he said he was protesting. Originally he had trouble articulating exactly what, he also gad a couple false sttarts there. But he (i suspect with help from people around him) got that sorted. (Except the Cuban population hasnt forgiven him to this day even) The press pointed out that just sitting on the bench didnt look like protesting and shouldnt he at least stand for the anthem. Thats when he said he couldnt stand for a flag he couldnt respect. Afterit kept getting pounted out this looked more like sulking when he just sat like that (it did) he agreed to take a knee instead. After that when the team wanted to cur him before his salary got guaranteed (makes sense considering what he wa costing to just be a backup) race started getting played so the GM was looking at a PR nightmare if he nade what was reallly just a sensible business decision. So really he played everyone just for his own ends, and still isif all this kneeling comes down to giving him a job he hadnt earned. There are some that would consider those motives to be selfish.

  32. Did I miss something?? Is this protest for social reform or a labor dispute with the NFL?
    I mean no meeting between players and the NFL is going to solve social injustices, so what exactly is this for?
    Players, this is why no one is behind you. No one knows what you are protesting for anymore, including most of the protestors. Everyone has a different reason for the protest and this meeting just smells like a bunch of guys complaining that Kaep doesn’t have a job even though he is the one who left his job.

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