Browns could help themselves in two ways by adding Kaepernick

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It’s now clear that the Browns would like to upgrade their quarterback position, given the failed trade for A.J. McCarron. And it’s been clear that coach Hue Jackson has an affinity for Kaepernick, dating back to the 2011 draft. It’s also abundantly clear that someone above Jackson currently doesn’t want Kaepernick in Cleveland.

But maybe the Browns should reconsider its reluctance to add Kaepernick, for reasons indepedent of the fact that he could help improve on the team’s 1-23 skid mark over the past two seasons.

The Texans, based on Monday’s comments from coach Bill O’Brien, seem to at least be considering the possibility of adding Kaepernick. And to the extent that O’Brien’s remarks may have been a trial balloon aimed at determining whether Houstonians would react in a strongly negative fashion to the possibility of signing the man who sparked the anthem controversy (and to the extent that a strong negative reaction hasn’t emerged), the Texans could be planning to make a move.

Without Kaepernick, the 3-5 Texans could plunge in the standings. Which will cause them to skyrocket in the draft order. And with the Browns holding Houston’s first- and second- round picks in 2018, that would be very good news for Cleveland.

To summarize, Kaepernick would help Cleveland. Not getting Kaepernick would hurt Houston. Which would help Cleveland.

And getting Kaepernick a real opportunity would help the NFL navigate around a collusion case that, despite the board room huffing and puffing from Covington & Burling lawyers who have a $trong incentive to see the league fight tooth and nail, could go very poorly for the league and its teams.

So it would make plenty of sense for the Browns to do it. Which obviously means they won’t.

84 responses to “Browns could help themselves in two ways by adding Kaepernick

  1. “from Covington & Burling lawyers who have a $trong incentive to see the league fight tooth and nail”

    I am sure Geragos is doing all of this pro bono. He wouldn’t undertake a longshot case to milk every dime he can out of a stunningly mediocre former NFL quarterback. No, that sort of motivation only comes from those evil NFL lawyers. His only incentive is to make the world a better place.

  2. Thinking this far ahead would require the Brown’s Front Office to actually be aware of their job responsibilities and be able to act on it with a clear thought out plan…. They appear to know how to acquire draft picks, but not know how to build the team.

  3. The NFL owners should do themselves a huge image move by leaning on Jimmy Haslam to sign Kap right away. The reasons are simple A) Kap might just help them, but if not who cares..the Browns are a bad team anyway. B) The owners will always be thankful that Haslam took the bullet and he’ll always be in their debt) C) IF Kap stinks, and everybody is watching it again in 2017, they have justifable reason to CUT him. Get it done Brownies.

  4. NO, it doesn’t make sense. He’s a gimmick QB with baggage. The team has worried too much about other things than football already. He was benched after three quarters because he threw for 4 yards. The Browns have two young QBs, they should develop them like the plan. They aren’t going anywhere this year. Typical media rave about him this year. Made fun of him last year.

  5. This article assumes adding Kaepernick makes the Texans a good team again. A guy who has never successfully had to learn a new system would come in overnight and be a pro bowler and lead this team to some victories. That is a bit far fetched. A guy who has been out of the league after being benched is going to be more successful than a guy who has been on the team for a couple of years. Not likely.

  6. Kaeps record over similar time is a single win. Browns would help themselves more by letting kaep go and ruin Houston like he did San Fran. But keep telling yourself he’s good

  7. Not happening. Kaepernick went nuclear on the NFL with this lawsuit, and his demands are now that if he is offered a job it needs to be something of “substance”. As Tony Gonzalez said: “He’s done”.

  8. So in addition to paying for Denver’s QB, the Browns should now pay close to the same money for CK just to keep him from the Texans.

  9. If you want to see an uproar in Texas, just have them sign Krap! It wouldn’t be pretty 🙂 McNair is much smarter than that. Have no clue how the Brown’s fans would react…..

  10. As much fun as it would be to watch him get battered behind the Brown’s o-line, I find this assumption that “starting Kaep equals wins” highly questionable. It certainly was not the case for the Niners in his last opportunity and I don’t see Houston or Cleveland being significantly superior than that squad.

  11. Enough Kaepernick stories already. He will never play in the league again. Not much call for a trouble making, sub par quarterback. Why do people think Kaepeenick is good? He played on a bad 9ers team and won a couple games in 20+ starts. How could he go to another bad team and win? He has proven he cannot win without a lot of great talent around him. Maybe his vegan diet made him better? Last picture of him I saw he looks like he weighs 150 pounds.

  12. “Without Kaepernick, the 3-5 Texans could plunge in the standings. Which will cause them to skyrocket in the draft order.”
    And with him they will win 8 straight, make the playoffs,he’ll be in the running for MVP, and go on an insane Super Bowl run which will culminate in Kaepernick getting pushed out on a stage during the SB National Anthem kneeling with his fist in the air…oh wait,do I sound ridiculous?

  13. There is no collusion. Krapernick wore police pig socks. Every team in the NFL employs law enforcement as security. Why would any team risk that relationship? Your crying will not help that loser get a job. The best part will be is when his case gets thrown out and you are still crying

  14. It doesn’t matter is Kaep is better than what they have now.

    1) The Browns are headed for an early 1st again. At this point, why would they want to change that?
    2) Why alienate half of your already small fan base?
    3) Any player, especially a QB that can become the face of a franchise, that wears socks depicting police as pigs, creates a PR nightmare for the franchise.

  15. Problem is with only 8 games left the time it would take to get him proficient with the offense and win enough games to make the playoffs seems extremely unlikely. Add the fan blow back and it becomes a non starter…

  16. shlort: Obviously you haven’t seen any recent photos. He’s better than the majority of the quarterbacks starting this Sunday, especially the ones that will be out there for Cleveland and Houston. Also, to call a guy who calls somebody who takes a stand against racial inequality a troublemaker sounds rather problematic and troublesome.

  17. vahawker says:
    November 7, 2017 at 9:53 am
    Adding Kap would hurt any team that signs him because he just isn’t that good
    //////
    Hurt how? The Browns are 1-23 in past two seasons. You telling me Kap wouldn’t be at least 2-22? Really?

  18. The Browns could also hurt themselves in two ways getting Kaepernick. They get a lousy QB and they get a pain in the a$$ and locker room cancer.

  19. youngnoizecom says:
    November 7, 2017 at 10:09 am
    shlort: Obviously you haven’t seen any recent photos. He’s better than the majority of the quarterbacks starting this Sunday, especially the ones that will be out there for Cleveland and Houston. Also, to call a guy who calls somebody who takes a stand against racial inequality a troublemaker sounds rather problematic and troublesome.

    ———-

    Keap is suing the NFL because he was not good enough to beat out Blaine Gabbert. You don’t see that as problematic or troublesome?

  20. nfella says:
    November 7, 2017 at 9:53 am
    Not happening. Kaepernick went nuclear on the NFL with this lawsuit, and his demands are now that if he is offered a job it needs to be something of “substance”.

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    That right there kills it. Although I suspect that was the purpose of the exercise, Kaeps latest strategy seals off any chance of him getting on a team. There was apparently not collusion (not if some teams have bern cosidering it) and the Texans came dangerously close to actually doing it that Kaep got alarmed it might happen, which he cannot afford.

    The thing is that after Kaep has said that and the lawyer has made statements that amount to extortion, its not collusion now if the NFL lawyers do send something out to the owners on how it jeopardizes the league and their teams if there is any sign of these tactics being viable. Thats not collusion thats just a sound legal opinion and strategy. The NFL is best served to say and do nothing at all (including not letting him come to any meetings where NFL personall are present) so that he is the only one that ever says or does anything. Now that they are collectively being threatened with a lawsuit they are completely free to collectively discuss between themselves how to address the problem.

    If Cleveland does surprise us and start sounding like they might do something IMHO we will see another move from Kaeps side to put the kebash on any chance. I say this just because that has been the pattern thus far. Im not sure what happenend in Seattle but with Baltimore that got blown up by Kaeps side and now this lawsuit is furthering that same pattern.

  21. I still do not understand why the 9ers did not sign Kaep back to their team. Could it be they know what the rest of the league knows: He is no good?

  22. So they sign Kaepernick, who has a terrible record in his last season, in order to improve their record? This would be terrible for Kaepernick, he would sign with the Browns, play terrible because he’s just not good and would lose badly on a terrible team. From that point on, the media would have no ammunition to write about how he’s being blackballed for non-football reasons, because a team gave him a shot and he failed in a very bad way. What would you write about next season when Kaepernick is out of the league again when it’s become 100% obvious that it’s due to his lack of talent and ability to keep up with the game?

  23. youngnoizecom says:
    November 7, 2017 at 10:09 am
    shlort: Obviously you haven’t seen any recent photos. He’s better than the majority of the quarterbacks starting this Sunday, especially the ones that will be out there for Cleveland and Houston. Also, to call a guy who calls somebody who takes a stand against racial inequality a troublemaker sounds rather problematic and troublesome.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    So, if he looks like Hulk Hogan, he will be a more proficient q/b??? I have NO problem with him taking "a stand against racial inequality." However, the manner in which he chose to do so, is very "troublesome". Disrespecting the country & veterans, which allowed him to make millions, while playing a game, is very problematic for me! Wearing "pig" socks and a Castro shirt, is very problematic for me! Protest on your free time, and I am just fine with that 🙂

  24. Don’t forget, Kaepernick also was 1-10 as a starter with San Francisco in ’16. The 49ers averaged only 18 points in the games he started. So while he wasn’t turning the ball over, he wasn’t doing anything to win games. And that was with the team he’d played for his entire career. What chance would he have coming in at midseason to a new coach and new team?

  25. monarch76 says:
    November 7, 2017 at 10:24 am
    Every qb on the Browns roster is better than this cop hater.

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    There is certainly argument to that. But no one on their Roster is ‘good enough’ so it gets moot who they play. And a couple have potential that it might be better not destroying their first year by throwing them into a bad situation. The Browns need to build more before its going to matter who their qb is. While I disagree that letting Houston get him would make them better (I think far worse actually), the Browns still might want to consider grabbing Kaep for bottom league minimum to finish the season as their warm body back there and cut whoever is costing them the most currently. Save a few bucks.

  26. Teams have been paying scouts and GMs lots of money to evaluate talent. Now we see that SJWs can all tell the wheat from the chaff. I’ll bet that it makes all the owners embarrassed to find that out.

  27. onormacleod says:
    November 7, 2017 at 10:11 am
    vahawker says:
    November 7, 2017 at 9:53 am
    Adding Kap would hurt any team that signs him because he just isn’t that good
    //////
    Hurt how? The Browns are 1-23 in past two seasons. You telling me Kap wouldn’t be at least 2-22? Really?
    ————————————-
    1. Can’t read a defense.
    2.Takes too many sacks.
    3.Inaccurate passer.
    4 Locker Room Cancer.

    Shall I go on?

  28. Let me see n Hmm 32 Billionaires are worried what One law firm is going to bill for a case ? Er, no If you think fans don’t come to games because their team stinks just wait and see how empty the stadium would be if their team signed this clown

  29. The Browns do not know how to evaluate, draft, or train a QB. The Sadness factory is where QBs go to die their final death. Only thing left after this, is the CFL or foreign leagues.

  30. If he hates it so much here, why not the CFL? He is like a guy who complains about everything but stands right in the middle of the party and won’t leave.

  31. Kap played pretty well for Harbaugh, but he was still a work in progress. Under the right tutors, I belie he could be a starer again. But will he be a carcer in locker room?

  32. Man this gets so repetitious. It’s one team one day, another the next. All of us know deep down that no NFL team will sign Colin Kaepernick given the current anthem situation.

  33. Have to admit Florio – a good analysis. This would be the kind of moneyball that they played with Osweiler – and directly impact the trade.

  34. monarch76 says:
    November 7, 2017 at 10:24 am
    Every qb on the Browns roster is better than this cop hater.

    I am no Kaep fan (because of his play, not his politics) but as a Browns fan I have to say this is certainly not the case. No way, no how. That is a QB room without talent.

  35. collectordude says:
    November 7, 2017 at 9:48 am
    kaepernick cannot help any team.
    He is just terrible——————–
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    Stop it! Just stop it! Kap is light years better than these bums of the week being run out there. You’re letting your politics cloud your judgment.

  36. Why is he the only unemployed football player that we talk about? Don’t the others have families to feed? Shouldn’t we be concerned about them too?

  37. Enough with the sign Kap stuff. We’re going into week 10 now. There simply just isn’t enough time for him to get to his new team, learn the playbook and make any kind of difference on the field (especially with the Browns). Look at Garopollo in SF. They won’t even think about playing him yet because he doesn’t know the offense. Enough already.

  38. The NFL doesn’t have anything they have to navigate around. Business owners can decide who they want to hire and fire. That said I am still waiting for Kapernick to navigate around not being able to beat out Blaine Gabbert.

  39. The premise is they need to get Kap to keep him from the Texans. Cause why again? Because he’s so good, the Texans will win a lot of games?

    He isn’t good. They’re wouldn’t win anything with him.

    Texans wouldn’t want this cancer. Alienate the fan base maybe permanently. This is Texas remember? You think they’re fans would be OK with hiring someone who spits in their face?

  40. collectordude says:
    November 7, 2017 at 10:50 am
    onormacleod says:
    November 7, 2017 at 10:11 am
    vahawker says:
    November 7, 2017 at 9:53 am
    Adding Kap would hurt any team that signs him because he just isn’t that good
    //////
    Hurt how? The Browns are 1-23 in past two seasons. You telling me Kap wouldn’t be at least 2-22? Really?
    ————————————-
    1. Can’t read a defense.
    2.Takes too many sacks.
    3.Inaccurate passer.
    4 Locker Room Cancer.

    Shall I go on?

    —————–

    I agree that he doesn’t offer enough upside to offset the other stuff that comes with signing him, but I have to be fair here. I have never once heard him described as a “locker room cancer”. From all accounts, it sounds like he’s a fine teammate. I think “locker room distraction” would be a more apt description.

  41. The 49ers teams that Kaepernick played on, post-Harbaugh, were literally the worst teams in the NFL, and it wasn’t because of Kaepernick.

    Going to the Browns wouldn’t be much better, though.

  42. Just because Jackson was interested in him in 2011, is it not possible that he changed his mind after having a similar style of QB as his starter last year when the Browns had Bob Griffin?

  43. There is no such thing as collusion. Kap is a FORMER QB. Former, as in no longer. Like Favre trying to sue because nobody will sign him. Favre has a much, much better chance to get signed than Kap at this point.

  44. With a bad team and an ineffectual front office, and a drop in attendance and viewers, I’m sure all the owners looking for a QB are nervous about hiring anyone who could alienate the fans any more (particularly a QB who will become the face of their franchise). How have the Browns fans reacted to the kneeling controversy?

  45. youngnoizecom says:

    He’s better than the majority of the quarterbacks starting this Sunday, especially the ones that will be out there for Cleveland and Houston.
    =======================================================

    Must be why SF was not going to sign him to a big contract and why he got benched.

  46. How can the CBA being dismantled hurt the league more then the players?

    Does anyone really believe the NFL would lose in a CBA deal where they point out that viewership is down, the advertisers are bailing, the networks buying the rights are losing money and subscribers, and the players themselves are part of this problem with their decision to purposefully be divisive and disrespectful to the flag?

    The owners have the power, and they have all they need to say, you want to rip up the CBA? Here, take 30 percent less money.

    Lots of players aren’t going to want to take a huge paycut for idiot Kaepernick.

    Look how many AREN’T kneeling. That’s a FREE gesture. Take millions out of their pockets, and you’ll have a lot less supporting him.

  47. The true gimmicky QB’s in the NFL are the 70% completion percentage guys who make a living off of a whole lot of dump offs and a few select downfield wide open passes!!! Without the short dump offs they cannot play well, they make a lot of mistakes and are afraid, yes AFRAID, to launch that thing down field on the regular. Gimmicky QB’s are the QB’s who make a living off of short one and two step drop backs, instead of the old school 5 and 7 drop back. The gimmicky QB today is highly overpaid. The gimmicky QB runs a highly scripted offense with a lot of one step dump offs to an open player. They know the player is going to be there and feel comfortable just letting it rip-albeit it a short rip.

    The traditional pocket passer used to drop back 5 to 7 steps and first look downfield and yes, hold the ball a little time waiting to see if the big play develops downfield, and then mid field and LASTLY short safe pass. Today it is exactly the opposite for many QB’s who have high completion percentages. These guys aren’t even allowed to run the traditional NFL offense. They throw too many interceptions when they do. Such a shame. This new gimmicky QB causes RB’s to have to turn Into WR’s, and TE’s also have to turn into WR’s, and WR’s have to become slant guys or run routes with no attempt. So sad.

  48. The Department of Justice Civil Rights Division should investigate the NFL’s TV Network, ESPN, FOX, NBC and CBS for not hiring Kaepernick.

  49. Why the assumption that krapernick is better and would improve the team?

    He was trash the last season he played. He was garbage since the Super Bowl year (before teams had tape on him).

    Not to mention how he’d divide a team.

    Rex grossman went to a Super Bowl too. Maybe he can help the Texans or browns. There’s just as much evidence he’d improve either team as there is that krapernick would.

  50. reddzen says:
    November 7, 2017 at 11:19 am
    monarch76 says:
    November 7, 2017 at 10:24 am
    Every qb on the Browns roster is better than this cop hater.

    I am no Kaep fan (because of his play, not his politics) but as a Browns fan I have to say this is certainly not the case. No way, no how. That is a QB room without talent.
    ——————————-
    No….that is a QB room without reps and experience….which they need. Why would you sign a guy with 2 wins in the last 2 years that would steal these reps?

  51. “The Cleveland Dog Piles have signed Colon Krappernick.”

    Talk about the perfect marriage!

  52. Why don’t we just trade for Derek Anderson? He had one good year in the league just like Kap, but he did it here. Perhaps because they both suffered the same fate, neither could adapt once defenses had tape on them. If the league wants him signed so badly, they can offer a team compensation for signing him to their roster.

  53. For Browns: main value of rest of season is to learn as much as possible whether Kiser can become a franchise QB, or whether they need to use first pick in draft for another try to find one. Unless they have already decided that he can’t, any other QB is just a distraction. If they have decided he can’t, winning games makes getting their first choice next year less likely.
    For Houston: Kaep would make some sense, in that their season isn’t lost yet, and his strength/favored style is at least similar to Watson’s, so offense could remain same. Against, however is that he has been out of football long enough, would probably take a month to get up to speed (and, as noted, his speed when last seen wasn’t that great), and that McNair is one of the owners least likely to hire him.

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