Jerry Jones’ push hasn’t swayed many of his partners, yet

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Until the Commissioner has a new contract, the possibility that he won’t get a new contract will linger. And that will cause some to believe that the efforts of Cowboys owner Jerry Jones to derail the Roger Goodell extension are working.

So far, they’re not.

Per a league source with knowledge of the situation, the group of owners currently advocating for change sits at four or five, and maybe six. It’s believed that Washington owner Daniel Snyder is among those who support what Jones has been trying to do.

Some have interpreted reports of a 17-owner conference call from 12 days ago as proof that Jones is well on his way to the 24 owners necessary to scrap the Goodell extension and, in turn, to end the tenure of only the second Commissioner since the completion of the 30-year reign of Pete Rozelle. As the source explained it, however, that conference call was convened to discuss the lingering negotiating points in the Goodell extension (specifically, terms and amounts of incentives), and it unexpectedly became a platform for Jones to continue his broader push against Goodell. Some emerged from the conference call believing they’d been lured to participate under false pretenses.

Even though Jones has had little success in building a 24-owner coalition against Goodell’s extension, Jones could also find more support if the extension talks linger. For some with vested interests in the success of the NFL, a new Commissioner could be viewed as the elusive spark that will spin the clock back to 2015. For the league, however, the dilemma is similar to what a team considering a quarterback change faces: It’s easy to dump the one you have, and it’s not so easy to replace him.

A new Commissioner may result in a short-term round of applause from those who want something/anything positive to happen for the league. But the deeper problems (like the anthem controversy and reduced ratings) will continue, regardless of who the Commissioner is. Until 24 owners believe that there’s some other person who will do a better job of leading the league through these troubled times, the Commissioner won’t be facing any danger, grave or any other kind.

This reality won’t stop Jones from continuing his push, even though some of his partners find the effort to be even more grating than Jones’ attempt to characterize himself as the “ranking owner” in the room.

67 responses to “Jerry Jones’ push hasn’t swayed many of his partners, yet

  1. Jerruh is nothing more than the lead barker at the circus: great for getting them into the tent, but no good when it comes to knowing how to run things. Tell him to stick to pitching sales ideas.

  2. I know many NFL fans can’t believe that Goodell will keep his job after so many public blunders and so much recent bad publicity. The thing is, Goodell is a really good negotiator with the tv networks, which is where owners make the most money. They can handle a few PR misteps as long as Goodell is hustling during tv contract negotiations. The owners don’t like the social justice crap, but know giving the players a false sense of power now will work out for them later at the next CBA negotiation. They’ll call the bluff of the NFLPA: “Want more freedom to protest? That’s gonna cost you in profit sharing”

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    Jones probably won’t win this battle. However, he’s building a resistance within ownership. That, in itself, is a good thing.

    Why does former PR guy, Roger Goodell, make more than Aaron Rogers, Tom Brady and Odell Beckham Jr combined?
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  4. The league would get an immediate boost in ratings by removing the failed commissioner. That alone would symbolize so much, both for the players and fans who hate Goodell and see right through his poor leadership, lying and cheating.

    If the owners were smart, they’d “scapegoat” Goodell by firing him, get a principled leader in there, to bridge the gap for the next CBA, and that alone would likely be enough to get players to stop kneeling, assuming there is an action-plan with $ in place to help them with their causes.

    It makes so much sense, but it’s very creepy to learn that some owners are this delusional, even still.

    The union will strike before the next CBA is even close to being finalized, so the owners need to make a move to try to avoid that from happening. The owners’ leverage weakens by the day with these tumbling ratings. As long as the ratings continue to spiral down, the owners lose their leverage and the union has more of a footing heading into the next CBA talks.

  5. More and more it is starting to seem like Jones is Trump’s point man in the NFL. From the protests to Goodell, Jones seems to be Trump’s mouthpiece.

  6. Wow, it’s a strange coincidence that Jerrah is doing this after he and Mara forced themselves onto the selection committee back in the Spring to out-vote the unhappy Kraft and thus keep Fraudger. What changed?

  7. I think you’re misreading how organizations like this work. Groups want consensus. The rule of thumb is you either get 80% support for something, or you get 20%. If six owners defect, that’s still over 80% support. If seven defect, then you’re below 80% and the rest might decide “maybe we should get someone we can all agree on”.

  8. RegisHawk says:
    November 7, 2017 at 10:47 am
    Jerruh is nothing more than the lead barker at the circus: great for getting them into the tent, but no good when it comes to knowing how to run things. Tell him to stick to pitching sales ideas.
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    Uh, riiigght! HOFamer Jerry Jones knows nothing about running things?? He, who owns the most valuable sports franchise in the WORLD & went into the HOF as a NFL Contributor.
    All I have read on this site is “Fire Goodell”, for years. You should be praising Jones’ efforts, to at least try and get this done. It would or should, make for a lot of happy fans!!! Meanwhile, ole Rog continues on his false vendetta……..and is succeeding on taking down the NFL, all by himself!

  9. If Jones is trying to dump Roger Goodell then he is a lot more intelligent than most people give him credit for.

    If you saw pictures of some of the stadiums this past weekend many looked half full at best.

    The Patriots have sold out every game for more than the last 15 years. This weekend they actually advertised getting on the list for season tickets. I will bet a lot of fans have told them they won’t renew their tickets next year.

  10. Zeke is mentioned by name in 4 seperate police reports in regards to domestic violence while at OSU. When doing their research on the player, did he ever think of googling Ezekiel Elliott Arrest Report ? The suspension is the only reason Jerry is unhappy with Goodell. Being named 4 times is a pattern. When that 5th charge comes in, I don’t think it is out of line to take it seriously.

  11. wozzmann1955 says:
    November 7, 2017 at 10:37 am
    would be cool like if 40 yrs from now they are still looking for Goodell who mysteriously dissapeard after a lunch date in Texas

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    At least this time we could be reasonbly comfortable he is not under Giants stadium somewhere.

  12. The real problem is the players in general don’t think the NFL, through the commissioner, has dealt with them honestly or fairly. The question is whether that is because that is how Roger chooses to do it, or because that is how the owners want him to do it.

  13. But the deeper problems (like the anthem controversy and reduced ratings) will continue…

    New commissioner sends out a memo saying all players must stand.

    Players kneel.

    Players get fined.

    Players continue to kneel.

    “Problem” continues.

  14. I don’t know much about billionaires, but I do know they like their billions. How many more can Goodell cost them before the worm turns? Let’s find out together.

  15. I don’t understand why this is so hard. Tell the players it’s mandatory to stand during the anthem. If they feel that they don’t want to show respect for their country, fine – have them wait in the tunnels. It puts an end to their ridiculous grandstanding and it doesn’t force anyone to do stand. If these asshats want to sit or kneel,fine – it’s America. But don’t let them hijack the ceremony with their political message.

  16. if the goal is to expand the NFL into Russia, there are plenty in the Administration with the right connections that might be good replacements for Goodell.

    Maybe they can package a Tower/Stadium deal.

  17. arcross12042004scorp15 says:
    November 7, 2017 at 11:12 am
    Zeke is mentioned by name in 4 seperate police reports in regards to domestic violence while at OSU. When doing their research on the player, did he ever think of googling Ezekiel Elliott Arrest Report ? The suspension is the only reason Jerry is unhappy with Goodell. Being named 4 times is a pattern. When that 5th charge comes in, I don’t think it is out of line to take it seriously.

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    So, your claim is that OSU (and now Dallas/Jones) is paying off the local authorities. Hmm.

    Could it be these women are trying to extort him for money and it’s a pattern by them?

    Have you read the affidavit posted online for anyone to read? I bet you haven’t.

  18. “did he ever think of googling Ezekiel Elliott Arrest Report?”

    Ha! You think that you’re going to get authentic arrest reports simply by googling someone’s name? These days police departments charge for access to vehicle accident reports. But sure, arrest reports are available for free.

  19. 5280broncosfan says:
    November 7, 2017 at 10:49 am
    I know many NFL fans can’t believe that Goodell will keep his job after so many public blunders and so much recent bad publicity. The thing is, Goodell is a really good negotiator with the tv networks, which is where owners make the most money. They can handle a few PR misteps as long as Goodell is hustling during tv contract negotiations. The owners don’t like the social justice crap, but know giving the players a false sense of power now will work out for them later at the next CBA negotiation. They’ll call the bluff of the NFLPA: “Want more freedom to protest? That’s gonna cost you in profit sharing”

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    This is completely false. Goodell and the lawyers were thrown out of the negotiating room during the summer of 2011. He is an utter failure across the board. The only thing Goodell does well or is perceived to do well is to lie and do it consistently with deflection. The problem for Goodell is, he’s lied so many times, if you go back and read his public statements, there are holes everywhere. He looks the part, sure.

    Bob Kraft is the one who is in bed with Sean McManus at CBS and has the good relationships with his post/chair on the Broadcast Committee.

    In fact, that right there is a big reason why Kraft bent over the sink again with Framgegate II. He sees that position and the money that comes in via the CBA, from the tv contracts, as more lucrative for himself than his own team and their success.

    That’s the harsh, harsh truth for Pats fans who have been disgusted with him taking the cheating from some owners and 345 Park Ave.

    Kraft took the NFL brand over his own. Painful truth for Pats fans, but you believing the lies about Goodell, is disturbing at this point.

  20. Doesn’t matter who the commissioner is. Wether it be Godell or Florio. They’ll do what they are told to do by the owners. It’s like the president, just an employee that follows orders.

  21. Inertia is tough to overcome but Goodell’s only strong suit is all the money he’s made the owners but ratings are down, sponsors are starting to complain and the endless PR debacles are actually starting to matter. Once the gravy train starts missing stops they’ll be looking to replace the engineer.

  22. “don’t let them hijack the ceremony with their political message”.

    Ceremony? Ceremony implies a special or sacred event. The anthem is played by rote millions of times a year. It is not a church service or wedding. There is no ceremony involved.

  23. Are the NFL’s problems really Goodell’s fault? Nowadays there are just so many more entertaining things to do with your viewing time. If it weren’t for fantasy FB the NFL would really see a ratings drop. Goodell is there to do the owners’ dirty work and be a lightning rod. Jerry just wants to get someone over whom he has more control.

  24. Greed should never have a following……

    Vote and live with your conscious, it is usually a good indicator of what is right.

  25. If making TV deals is Goodell’s best trick they should dump him. The current contracts run until 2023. He’s likely to move the anthem to a time slot before kickoff when most players are not on the field.

  26. Funny. He loved him before the Elliot ruling. He even told Kraft to tale his medicine on the Brady fiasco. The whole NFL is a joke-owners, Commish office, and players

  27. I don’t know how all of the owners aren’t clamoring for a change. While revenue may still be at it’s high point… I think it’s plateauing and will decrease next time the negotiate TV contracts and the CBA.

    This is because; the NFL makes one media poo-storm after another with little ability to navigate them and effectively legislate and follow their own rules to avoid them in the future. Goodell is literally ruining this sport.

  28. mogogo1 says:
    November 7, 2017 at 11:47 am

    Inertia is tough to overcome but Goodell’s only strong suit is all the money he’s made the owners…
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    People keep saying this, but what does it even mean? The NFL’s money train pretty much runs itself.

    If anything, Goodell is a threat to derail it, if he hasn’t already.

  29. vonvoghoul says:
    November 7, 2017 at 11:46 am

    Doesn’t matter who the commissioner is. Wether it be Godell or Florio. They’ll do what they are told to do by the owners.
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    Then why doesn’t Jones just tell Goodell to drop the suspension? Why don’t the owners tell Goodell to make the anthem kneeling go away?

  30. pleasantsurpriselefty says:
    November 7, 2017 at 10:57 am
    All this because Goodell wants to punish a serial domestic abuser and The Cowboys want him on the field.
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    Last I checked, Greg Hardy is out of the league…

  31. Mr. Jones is right. Goodell has adopted a ‘political correctness,’ and liberal approach to governing the NFL. Despite the protest issue which was allowed to fester for too long, the major issue is ‘relocation’ of teams who feel they’re not getting community support and choosing not to build lavish stadiums. In reality if a team is not competitive, lack of attendance and declining TV viewership will result. It is the normal “ebb and flow’ of the business. Win and fans will come and watch. Lose and interest wanes. Teams can move under existing ownership rules; i.e. they are privately and lawfully owned enterprises. What happens when teams ‘relocate’ however, negatively impacts the entire league as the moving franchise abandons their local fan base AND national fan interest. It now must build a totally new identity. This takes many years to accomplish. The older the franchise is the more challenging this becomes. What happens is loss of fan enthusiasm, as the moving team abandons it’s own years of tradition, history and character which MAKES UP A TEAMS IDENTITY! The San Diego Chargers ‘relocation’ is a classic example of failure and poor business judgement which contributes to general weakening of fan interest and viewership. Charger attendance and local fan interest was stagnant, do to lack of competitiveness. For instance, the Chargers had an identity of an always potent, exciting offense that had intrinsic entertainment value among NFL fans. They were the San Diego Chargers. The ‘I remember when’ idea is part of any teams identity. Charger management and the NFL have abandoned that identity by leaving San Diego. The assumption that a ‘fresh start’ (Charger talk not mine) in a revisited location AND in a new state-of-the-art stadium sounds exciting, but it’s not. Actually, older, albeit updated stadiums have a ‘patina,’ a history embedded in their existence. They are a fixture, which makes up a teams’soul and identity. The Rams combination of L.A history coupled with a new stadium will likely succeed. The dynamics are different. The ‘I remember when’ is strongly associated with teams and their venues OF WHERE THEY HAVE PLAYED FOR DECADES. The Chargers have sacrificed all that for the sake of something new. It has failed and the NFL’s leadership shares a major part of the blame. The Oakland Raiders playing in Oakland stadium are an integral part of WHO THEY ARE. The move to Las Vegas will result in a similar failure and weakening of over-all fan enthusiasm. If Buffalo moves, because fans can’t afford to build a new stadium, and become the San Antonio Bills, the same loss of fan dedication will result. Would you be enthused to watch an Alabama Jets or a New Mexico Packers game? I don’t think so. Not for many years. Mr. Goodell has to go and a return to NFL tradition has to be reinstated. It appears NFL and owners just don’t get it and are drifting away from the fundamentals that make the NFL a great enterprise. But they soon will.

  32. Jerry had no problem with giving Goodell all that problem UNTIL it came back on him and his star player. Last I remember is that he was completely happy with the Brady decision, even praised Goodell.

    ““I do support the commissioner,” Jones stated. “And I support the commissioner for what his position relative to the rules and the sanctions.””

    “”“I think he’s doing a great job, and I’m a big supporter of his,” Jones said of Goodell in the midst of the DeflateGate saga. “I’ve certainly had the benefit of his role as commissioner and being penalized in the past. But I’m a big supporter of his. I know one of his best qualities is fairness.””

    But now he’s upset.

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    patriots123456 says:
    November 7, 2017 at 11:03 am
    If Jones is trying to dump Roger Goodell then he is a lot more intelligent than most people give him credit for.

    If you saw pictures of some of the stadiums this past weekend many looked half full at best.

    The Patriots have sold out every game for more than the last 15 years. This weekend they actually advertised getting on the list for season tickets. I will bet a lot of fans have told them they won’t renew their tickets next year.

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    They advertise that every year just because. Im on that waiting list and its long as hell, no hope for anything soon. I would frankly love it if a large amount of people opted out.

  34. arcross12042004scorp15 says:
    November 7, 2017 at 11:12 am
    Zeke is mentioned by name in 4 seperate police reports in regards to domestic violence while at OSU. When doing their research on the player, did he ever think of googling Ezekiel Elliott Arrest Report ? The suspension is the only reason Jerry is unhappy with Goodell. Being named 4 times is a pattern. When that 5th charge comes in, I don’t think it is out of line to take it seriously.
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    And yet Kia Roberts still disagrees.

  35. palsgraf21 says:
    November 7, 2017 at 11:54 am
    Are the NFL’s problems really Goodell’s fault? Nowadays there are just so many more entertaining things to do with your viewing time. If it weren’t for fantasy FB the NFL would really see a ratings drop. Goodell is there to do the owners’ dirty work and be a lightning rod. Jerry just wants to get someone over whom he has more control.
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    Player discipline.
    Refs not being able to legislate the rules consistently.

    Both have nothing to do with entertainment and everything to do with who is running the show.

  36. He convinced me to never buy Papa John’s pizza ever again. Didn’t realize he owned some franchises.

  37. Every owner knows the truth about Jerry Jones and why he is pitching this fit. Notice not one owner has said one word about Zeke Elliott. He has not received any owner support on this why? Why hasn’t every single owner made the same statement about the anthem to its players, stand or be benched? Seems to me the owners do not agree with him but are on the Commissioner’s side. Jerry is going to go down in flames over Elliott. And his little Papa John’s stunt did not earn him many points.

  38. Jones has a different view of the world. He’s a Texas guy, and he knows what Texans like. Goodell has to make money for 32 owners. Americans don’t all think alike. Back when Pete Rozelle was commissioner, most Americans agreed on a lot of stuff. The middle class is shrinking. There are a lot more hopeless Americans that are falling for the blame game that our politicians are playing, and so there’s a huge divide right down middle America. Goodell is doing a decent job. The next guy wouldn’t be any better.

  39. The whole thing is very curious. If Goodell worked for any one of these guys directly in their other businesses he’d be gone.If negotiation skills are his only saving grace, there are more than enough skilled negotiators available for 40m p/year. Something ain’t right. This is either a power thing among the owners or there is something else we aren’t aware of. Keeping the government at bay with misdirection??

  40. Goodell must be sitting on more secrets than J. Edgar Hoover was.

    There’s no other logical way to explain how he not only hasn’t been fired, he is having his contract renewed.

  41. Moving on from Goodell would definitely be a boost in the public eye. IMO Roger has been the primary bungler of the recent issues within the NFL.

    I don’t think it’s at all like finding a quality QB. A good commissioner basically only needs to have his head on the outside of his … not up inside it.

  42. 6ball says:

    November 7, 2017 at 10:50 am

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    Jones probably won’t win this battle. However, he’s building a resistance within ownership. That, in itself, is a good thing.

    Why does former PR guy, Roger Goodell, make more than Aaron Rogers, Tom Brady and Odell Beckham Jr combined?
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    Because his contract has performance bench marks tied to revenue, marketing, licensing etc and making 32 franchises into billion dollar organizations. You may not like ROger but he has accomplished a lot. He just has messed some stuff up too..

  43. 32 billionaires arguing over who to represent them… they ought to record that argument and sell the video rights to the television networks. That would give us something to discuss other than how much we hate being insulted watching the millionaire employees shoving racial politics down our throats.🙈

  44. Goodell will go no where. Bob Kraft knows that no other organization has benefited more from Goodell’s administration than the Patriots.

  45. brendafortheboyz says:
    November 7, 2017 at 11:02 am

    Uh, riiigght! HOFamer Jerry Jones knows nothing about running things?? He, who owns the most valuable sports franchise in the WORLD & went into the HOF as a NFL Contributor.
    All I have read on this site is “Fire Goodell”, for years. You should be praising Jones’ efforts, to at least try and get this done. It would or should, make for a lot of happy fans!!! Meanwhile, ole Rog continues on his false vendetta……..and is succeeding on taking down the NFL, all by himself!
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    Uh, exactly right. He has some good ideas to sell jerseys; that’s about it…and that doesn’t qualify you to run the entire League. All you’ve read is “Fire Goodell” because there’s a preponderance of unemployed Pats trolls who have nothing better to do. Fans are fickle and will turn on the next guy the minute he does something that doesn’t favor their team, which is what’s happening now. Goodell has navigated 32 self-interested parties while growing the NFL at a record rate…but you keep sucking up the pab, you don’t appear to be able to do more than that.

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