Tom Coughlin: Jalen Ramsey was playing football within the rules

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Jaguars cornerback Jalen Ramsey was ejected from last Sunday’s game against the Bengals after being on the receiving end of a takedown and punches from Bengals wide receiver A.J. Green in a scuffle at the end of the first half.

Ramsey pushed Green at the start of the incident, but didn’t throw any punches of his own in response to Green’s onslaught. After the game, referee Brad Allen said a player does not need to throw a punch to be ejected and called Ramsey an “instigator” who had been previously warned to knock off the extracurriculars with Green.

It seems Jaguars executive vice president Tom Coughlin, who spent last year working for the league after being dismissed by the Giants, takes issue with that rationale. Coughlin released a statement on Tuesday in support of Ramsey and taking issue with the idea that he committed a violation of the rules.

“Our players are instructed to not retaliate or get involved or do anything that would result in eviction because that would hurt the team,” Coughlin said. “Team comes first, and Jalen was trying to not hurt his team. While he did push his opponent — something that happened with other players during the game — he did not retaliate, he threw no punches, and he did not fight back. Jalen was doing what Coach [Doug] Marrone has instructed him to do, which is to play tough, be physical and to make every play difficult for his opponent. There was banter going back and forth during the game, but Jalen was playing football within the rules.”

Neither Ramsey nor Green was suspended, although Green can expect a sizable fine from the league this week. Ramsey could also be fined and it appears he can count on Coughlin’s backing for a potential appeal.

50 responses to “Tom Coughlin: Jalen Ramsey was playing football within the rules

  1. Ramsey deserved a penalty, but not an ejection for that. And even with that, he should not get fined and definitely no suspension. AJ Green definitely needs a fine, and probably a suspension as well.

  2. jman967 says:
    November 7, 2017 at 2:28 pm
    He wasn’t playing within the rules, he simply didn’t chokeslame or punch Green. The shove after was worthy of a 15 yard penalty.

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    Very true….but it in no way deserved an ejection. AJ Green’s behavior on the other had very much did deserve both an ejection and a suspension.

  3. Ah, the old “appeal”. Since anyone can appeal anything, they should be penalized somehow for losing it, and wasting everyone’s time.

    #RepealTheAppeal

  4. Ridiculous that Green and Ramsey got the same punishment from the league… Green should be sitting for another game.

    Ramsey shoved him and Green lost his dang mind! Green could literally be arrested for assault but the NFL doesn’t care because it got a lot of clicks.

  5. a db’s job is to get in the head of the WR and he did just that. Green lightly pushed him first, then ramsey did push him but what Green did was so over the top. But I guess in the eyes of the NFL it was within the high standards of sportsmanship unlike EVans..

    Note to Evans next time just choke the guy and punch him and you won’t get a suspension

  6. If the shove was during the play, then I agree with Coughlin. I don’t care that it happened 10 yards off the ball. You play your opponent hard until the whistle. If this was at all after the whistle though, it’s kind of hard to agree with Tom on this one.

  7. This coming from the coach who didn’t notice any problem between Odell Beckham and Josh Norman a few years back in that infamous game where OBJ launched himself at Norman with the intent to injure. This old man is clueless and gets way too much credit.

  8. This looks like wwe. Ramsey should not have been thrown out of the game. And green should have a one game suspension for throwing punches and horsecollaring twice. And for Tampa Bay, Evans should be suspended for a game and Winston should be fined for instigating it.

  9. As a bengals fan, I’ll admit that aj obviously took it to another level. But the push is the straw that broke the camels back. And for every downvote I get. Like all bengal fans, aj can do no wrong in our eyes. We love him.. Did Jalen deserve to get slammed down to the ground like that? YES

  10. Yeah, you don’t suspend people for going UFC on the field. Don’t hit Joe Mixon with anything either. Giants kicker gets 1 game for domestic abuse and Zeke gets 6 for what could be nothing?!

    Sounds fair to me

  11. what irks me is that they benched leonard that is gonna hurt this team bad. I know he is a rookie but thats your best player, your leader. Hes the dude who came with the Being United Generates Attitude approach. And yall are gonna bench him for meetings? absolutely insane. Best runner in the Nfl and hes surrounded by maniacs

  12. Jalen Ramsey and A.J. Green are two of the biggest superstars in the game. These guys are way too good to be messing around like this. I hate to see this. I love both players. Just get back to playing football. Nobody needs to defend these guys. What they did was stupid. They better learn how to get along because they’ll both be in the Hall of Fame some day.

  13. Was Miles Jack’s running head first dive into Green’s exposed spine, also considered playing within the rules? Funny that little nugget was overlooked.

  14. Right or wrong, I like Tom Coughlin. He tells it like it is. I wasn’t a fan until I saw his “Football Life.” The atmosphere in Jackonville has changed. They are playing with swagger now, and I believe Coughlin is a big part of that.

  15. Shoves happen every game. It’s flag worthy but no ejection worthy in my opinion, as then the league should have ejected a lot of players over the decades.

    Moreover it’s ridiculous that AJ Green didn’t get suspended. His was worse than what Andre Johnson did. Cause at least they are they were getting aggressive and it escalated, but in this case AJ got pushed and then retaliates by chokehold and throw, followed by punches, then another chokehold and slam, followed by more punches AFTER teammates try to break it up.

    Meanwhile the entire ordeal Ramsey never even made an attempt to hit back. NFL’s wheel of discipline strikes again.

  16. Jacksonville deserves at least recognition from the league that the Ramsey ejection was “not traditionally a situation worthy of a player being ejected”.

    Is that too much to ask?

    #jagsarentevenmyteam

  17. I lost all respect for Tom Coughlin when two of his players took a simultaneous “injury” nosedive in a game against the Rams in 2015. Coughlin should have been ejected from the game and suspended for two more games. Totally unsportsmanlike conduct.

  18. Ramsey shouldn’t have been ejected.

    Though he bested Jalen via cheapshot from behind … AJ Green is just another one of Ramsey’s sons.

  19. mmack66 says:
    November 7, 2017 at 3:31 pm
    Who cares what the senile old buzzard thinks?
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    Hilarious.
    By the time it’s your turn on medicare we should listen to your ‘wisdom’ then, right?

  20. ongislandcowboysfan33 says:
    November 7, 2017 at 3:07 pm
    Yeah, you don’t suspend people for going UFC on the field. Don’t hit Joe Mixon with anything either. Giants kicker gets 1 game for domestic abuse and Zeke gets 6 for what could be nothing?!

    Sounds fair to me
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    What exactly should Mixon get and why is he even mentioned? Are you seriously suggesting that he should get punished for something by the NFL even though it occurred years before he was even drafted?? Idiot!

  21. This is a crazy rule, if you are a low usage rotational guy and you get a star player to push you after the whistle just attack him and throw punches to get him ejected. Sounds dumb doesn’t it?

  22. notlistinin says:
    November 7, 2017 at 4:19 pm

    Hilarious.
    By the time it’s your turn on medicare we should listen to your ‘wisdom’ then, right?
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    Nope. Thanks for agreeing with me.

  23. Erik Gainer says:
    November 7, 2017 at 4:24 pm

    What exactly should Mixon get and why is he even mentioned?
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    Terrelle Pryor was suspended, so Mixon could have been as well. All Pryor did was sign some autographs and get some tattoos. The horror.

    Goodell can suspend a guy for any reason under the arbitrary and capricious Personal Conduct Policy.

  24. Bump after the whistle is a 15 yr penalty no fine. Choking someone a bodyslam several punches. Ejection fine suspension I don’t care how great you have been in the past.

  25. Green was pushing Ramsey. Not hard, but he had his hand on him. So Ramsey pushed back. As long as Green is blocking, no matter how feeble an attempt it may be, Ramsey has the right to beak away from that block. Shoving Green to the ground is a great way to break that block. Ramsey did nothing wrong.

  26. detroitfanatic says:

    November 7, 2017 at 5:49 pm

    Green was pushing Ramsey. Not hard, but he had his hand on him. So Ramsey pushed back. As long as Green is blocking, no matter how feeble an attempt it may be, Ramsey has the right to beak away from that block. Shoving Green to the ground is a great way to break that block. Ramsey did nothing wrong.
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    You couldn’t be more wrong.

    Ramsey had been warned by the referee PRIOR to the play that resulted in the altercation that if he continues to put his hands in Green’s face, he will call it. Not sure why it wasn’t called in the first place since that is a penalty and an automatic first down, but alas. Ramsey had already been given a warning so that is why he was ejected since the altercation after the push was his first offense after being warned.

    That said, I don’t think the altercation itself should have gotten Ramsey ejected and I am shocked that AJ Green didn’t get a suspension.

    As for Green being “locked down” by Ramsey, Green had beaten Ramsey twice and Dalton overthrew him which would have been an easy TD. Plus, the Bengals didn’t have the ball most of the first half (credit to the Jaguars offense)so the number of plays was dramatically less than normal. If Ramsey is as great as people say he is, and from what I have seen of him I’m not going to disagree, but if he is that great than maybe he sticks to verbally attacking another player and not jamming his hands in the WR’s face. If he’s that good, he doesn’t need to do that crap.

  27. More defensive backs deserve to get their butts whipped. Good for AJ for teaching the punk a lesson.

  28. He is a cheap shotting piece of trash. Hate players like him, he has been warned in 4 games this year.

  29. I’d give the officials on the field the benefit of the doubt on this one. They know what was going on. If they felt Ramsey was planning and instigating a fight and was a threat to continue, electing him may have been in order. He certainly loses the moral high ground by being the first to initiate contact after the whistle. Coughlin is wrong on this one. Now get off my lawn!!!

  30. Simply put: trash talking has gone on for years, without penalty.
    Many players have trash talked AJ Green throughout his career, yet he’s never reacted like this.

    Is it possible that the frustration on being in a bad offense, with limited targets and catches also added to Green’s outburst?

    Jalen, if he was warned previously, deserved a USLC flag for that shove.
    But Green’s takedown was just as violent, if not more than Mike Evan’s suspendable action.

  31. Ramsey’s #1 job was to neutralize the Bengals best offensive player. Green had 1 catch for 6 yards and was ejected from the game…..that’s a mission accomplished for Ramsey period! There is yipping & trash-talking, pushing & shoving in every NFL game every week with no penalties called. Flag him for the shove to Green….errrr, sure okay, but to get the same punishment that Green got (a flag and ejection)……seriously?! Anyone who agrees with that is obtuse and shouldn’t be commenting about the NFL.. The best thing about thie Jag’s win is that they beat the Bengals at their own game! From Pacman to Burflict they’ve been one the most chippiest teams in the league, always trying to instigate and intimidate. They scored 7 points, gained 16 yards in the 2nd half and kneeled down on their last play just to get off the field and out town.. Coughlin’s correct and Great job by the Jags!

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