Mandate to scout quarterbacks points to Eli benching

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The news was that the Giants have told their scouts to start taking a close look at incoming college quarterbacks. The implication could be this: Davis Webb is about to start playing.

Before deciding whether to use what likely will be a high first-round pick on a quarterback in 2018, the Giants first need to know whether they will be entrusting the job to 2017 third-round rookie Davis Webb.

Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott was a fourth-round pick a year ago, and look at what he turned out to be. With Webb, there’s only one way to know what he’s going to be — they need to get him on the field. And they definitely need to do it before they put the name of another quarterback on a draft card.

Which means that the Giants will have to bench Eli Manning. Which likely would guarantee that, whoever the quarterback is in 2018, it won’t be Eli.

44 responses to “Mandate to scout quarterbacks points to Eli benching

  1. Eli isn’t great (never was), but the Giants’ record is not on him as much as it is on poor coaching, a terrible offensive line, and a mismanaged roster.

  2. Eli has had a nice career, but any mention of him as a Hall of Famer is a joke. Two flukey (and defensive driven) Super Bowls is nice, but he’ll still always be remembered as Peyton’s kid brother.

  3. I don’t agree with Mike’s assessment here but pretending his take is true for a moment, this only paints an even greater picture of dysfunction than we’re already aware of.

    The next-generation QB search should have begun 1-2 years ago… waiting until after the tires to fall off a car is about the worst possible franchise position to be in.

  4. If the Giants already expect this to be Manning’s last year with the team, then there’s no value in sticking with him when they are at 1-7 and the season is already sunk. Get Webb some experience to see if they really need to spend an early pick on a QB or if Webb is likely to be a long-term replacement for Manning.

  5. How is the memorabilia scam investigation coming, Sheriff Goodell?

    Oh. that’s right…The Giants are openly allowed to cheat and control the league whenever or wherever they chose.

  6. fin72 says:
    November 8, 2017 at 10:51 am
    Eli has had a nice career, but any mention of him as a Hall of Famer is a joke. Two flukey (and defensive driven) Super Bowls is nice, but he’ll still always be remembered as Peyton’s kid brother.
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    Yet he will make the Hall of Fame based on two SB MVPs. SB 46 MVP was deserved, he was the best player on the field that day. He also won Playoff games on the way to those SBs where he was flat out great. He was also terrific in SB 42, Tuck should have gotten the MVP, but Eli was terrific in that game as well.

    Playoff victories in Green Bay, against HOF QBs, SF where he willed that team to win and in Dallas where he snatched a victory cement his legacy as a damn good big game QB.

    He has career numbers and two SB MVPs vs Bellichik and Brady. I know people wnat to hate on him, but he is making the Hall of Fame.

  7. Every team scouts all the QBs and all other positions. The Packers are too scouting QBs as are the Texans, Philly and EVERYONE else.

  8. I think it points to Eli not being benched. Its an indication to me that Webb is not a viable solution. In an ideal world, the Giants would gain a top QB in the next draft and that QB would sit for a year behind Eli. Pre-season is not always the greatest test, but Webb looked ill prepared.

    The Dak Prescott analogy is strange. Yes a 4th round pick, but he caught people’s eye in practice and pre-season…..not so much with Webb. I don’t think there is any magic in the 4th round.

  9. @fin72
    You must be a Patriots fan. Two Superbowls.Two time Superbowl MVP. Big game player, master of the comeback win. 219 consecutive starts. Sorry hater, he is going to the Hall.

  10. I still can’t get past the fact that there needs to be a “mandate” to scout QBs ???

    What exactly do their personnel people do normally ?? Take care of their teams dry cleaning ?

  11. They’re looking at a top five pick at worst, if a guy is sitting there that you feel can be your QB for the next ten years I’d have a hard time passing on him no matter how good Webb may be over the next half of a season. I don’t think there is enough time to make an honest, thorough evaluation of Webb

  12. With most teams you would think self scouting, camp and the preseason would give the GM a working idea of what they have in their own players. It’s a little different with the Giants. In Reese we are talking about a GM that looked at that O-line and stood pat, pretty much tells you all you need to know about his ability to evaluate what he has.

  13. Change the name “eli” to “Brady” and Giants to Patriots and see if it still makes sense. I would wager my annual income that Belechek is looking at the top tier of qbs, and the restm with no intention of benching Brady. I am certain he is not planning on starting Hoyer to take a look at him to see if he is Bradys replacement.

  14. Well at 1-7 with a chance at a high pick, why wouldn’t you? You’re QB is getting older each year so it would only make sense to draft someone now. And don’t teams with established QBs look at other QBs each year anyway?

  15. fin72 says:
    November 8, 2017 at 10:51 am
    Eli has had a nice career, but any mention of him as a Hall of Famer is a joke. Two flukey (and defensive driven) Super Bowls is nice, but he’ll still always be remembered as Peyton’s kid brother.

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    I guess there is a precedent. Plunkett isn’t in yet and he has two.

    I agree he doesn’t have the resume outside of those two seasons, but I do think he will eventually go in.

  16. fin72 says:
    November 8, 2017 at 10:51 am
    Eli has had a nice career, but any mention of him as a Hall of Famer is a joke. Two flukey (and defensive driven) Super Bowls is nice, but he’ll still always be remembered as Peyton’s kid brother

    Can we stop it with this nonsense. Anyone that actually pays attention knows he’ll be in the HoF. Statswise, hes comparable to, or better than Elway. Clutchwise, not many better than him. 2 SB MVP’s says different.

    Going by your logic, Brady “lucked” into 2 super bowl wins because of a bad play call and a total defensive meltdown.

  17. Harold Ramsay says:
    November 8, 2017 at 11:30 am
    @fin72
    You must be a Patriots fan. Two Superbowls.Two time Superbowl MVP. Big game player, master of the comeback win. 219 consecutive starts. Sorry hater, he is going to the Hall.
    ______________________________

    How do you come to the conclusion that I’m a Patriots fan? Is it my username??

  18. Eli is a good QB… not great, but good. But he’s not the problem. NYG needs a new head coach and GM search, not a QB search. Eventually, yes, as Eli certainly isn’t getting any younger, but benching Eli is like replacing a spring on your car when the tire is flat.

  19. Not a fair comparison with Dak. Dak had the entire offense to work with, webb will have the watered down, obj-less version. And as mich as I can’t stand eli, I do respect him (juat like his team) and think hardware means something. If a qb wins my team two rings, I’m letting him roll as long as he can.

  20. Best thing Eli can do is retire. No other fan base would put up with his level of play….he’s at a backup level now. How embarrassing would it be if he went to a contender and just got run out of town with that past his prime pouty face by week 8 next season?

  21. Eli was never as good as people said, he just was NOT. That said, he isn’t as bad as people say now, he had a team prop him up for years and that is no longer the case. Put him on a team that can prop him up again, like Case Keenum on the Vikings, and he’d be decentish again.

  22. Provided the Giants drop several more games and secure a space far from playoff contention (which seems highly likely), why not bench Eli? Better to: evaluate Webb, secure a losing record (and a higher draft pick), and keep Eli healthy for a trade once the season’s over.

    Seems like a no-brainer. Trust the process.

  23. Dak was a once in a lifetime anomaly. Can’t compare other players and hope they turn out as good.

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