Report: Giants ownership put out word to scout college QBs

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There’s been plenty of talk lately about the short-term future of the Giants quarterback position, about Eli Manning‘s starting job and whether Davis Webb is going to get any snaps this year.

Giants ownership is apparently taking a longer view.

According to Jordan Raanan of ESPN.com, owner John Mara put out word several weeks ago to start looking closely at the top college quarterbacks, including Sam Darnold and Josh Rosen and others.

Vice president of player evaluation Marc Ross, their top college scouting executive, went to UCLA recently to personally scout Rosen.

Of course, every team with a top pick ought to be looking at quarterbacks, whether they need one or not, because they’re valuable trade chips if nothing else (see the 49ers squeezing picks out of the Bears to move up one spot for a guy they weren’t going to take).

And if the season ended today, the Giants would be picking third. Also, a lot of people would be saying “Why did the season end in Week 10?” And lots of Giants fans might be relieved if it did.

So while the news that they’re looking is easy to oversell, it’s also a reflection of how wrong this season has gone for the Giants.

77 responses to “Report: Giants ownership put out word to scout college QBs

  1. wib22 says:
    November 8, 2017 at 8:09 am
    eli beat brady twice in the super bowl

    HOF!

    What about that pats fans?

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    You tell us. What about it? And what year was that anyhow? We arent even celebrating last years superbowl any more. But then again, we arent hard up for stuff to celebrate either.

  2. grogan537 says:
    November 8, 2017 at 8:20 am
    What team doesn’t scout college quarterbacks?

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    Apparently the Giants if this is news that they are.

  3. wib22 says:
    November 8, 2017 at 8:09 am
    eli beat brady twice in the super bowl

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    I am no Pats fan, by any stretch of the imagination, but Eli didn’t beat Brady, any more than Brady beat Matt Ryan last year. Football is a team sport and requires 22 people (or more) working together seamlessly in order to win. The Giants beat the Pats twice.

    And I am really not a dink and dunk Brady fan, but there is no way I would say Eli is even close to his caliber of QB. Hir brother? Yes, certainly because rings aside I think he was the best to play the game in the modern era, just no teams around him for most of his career. But Eli? No.

    I think it is about time for Eli to go out to pasture. He’s lost his zip.

  4. Really? Eli’s days are numbered. Quarterbacks are always at a premium and all teams add qb’s when they can. It’s usually a crap shoot but every team needs solid back ups with the way they drop like flies.

  5. Hey wip22, eli has two sb wins, that’s all? TB12 and Pats have 5

    How bout that jersey giant fan?

  6. Loving that the Giants are an absolute, unmitigated dumpster fire this year. A lot of you Giants fans were talking Super before this season started.

  7. Eli did just enough to win 2 sb against Brady. When an offense averages 30 or so a game and their opponent holds them to 17-20 and wins by 3-4, the true SB effort was the defense by the Giants, and I tip my hat to them. Eli made some plays, but so did Brady.

  8. I live that John Mara had to “put the word out” to start scouting QBs for the draft….

    This is like the Perdue company CEO “putting the word out” to his staff that they might want to ramp up their turkey production the next few weeks….

  9. Probably telling them all not to accept being drafted by the Chargers, hold out for the G! Oh wait…

  10. Giants defense beat Brady and
    The pats twice. Eli threw up a couple of prayer passes that happened to get caught. Trent dilfer has a ring cause of the Ravens defense also so let’s not put Eli manning in the same category of QB’s as Brady. He’s won Super Bowls with no name receivers. Eli’s done nothing with beckham or marshall this year or any other year.

  11. wib22 says:
    November 8, 2017 at 8:09 am
    eli beat brady twice in the super bowl

    HOF!

    What about that pats fans?
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    The worse 2 time Superbowl winning QB in modern day NFL. I would take Fran Tarkenton, Dan Marino, Warren Moon, Jim Kelly, and a host of other great never won a Superbowl QBs over Eli.

  12. wib22 says:
    November 8, 2017 at 8:09 am
    eli beat brady twice in the super bowl

    HOF!

    What about that pats fans?

    —-

    well let’s see….Brady has been to 7 Super Bowls and won the other 5, more than the entire Manning family.

  13. wib22 says:
    November 8, 2017 at 8:09 am
    eli beat brady twice in the super bowl
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    no son, the giants D-Line beat Brady!!!

  14. Giants and their fans must be happy with those two Super Bowls because they haven’t even been close to getting back there since. Pats have 5 rings…and counting.

  15. wib22 says:
    November 8, 2017 at 8:09 am
    eli beat brady twice in the super bowl

    HOF!
    What about that pats fans?

    (Remember when you also said this?)

    wib22 says: October 31, 2017 at 9:35 am
    Don’t get this move at all, but as a Bills fan, I’m ok with it…
    Who are some of the all-time best pass protecting RB/FBs?

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    Brady has a record of 26-3 against the Bills.

    What about that Bill’s fans?

  16. Eli can go to his maker knowing he’s still on record as being 2-0 in championship games versus the greatest QB this generation. No different than saying the Pats D kept the other 5 opponents from scoring more points than their offense. Brady still gets the credit for the W.

  17. Wait, how many super rings does Brady have? I mean how many that he actually earned fair and square … could be zero.

  18. You have to scout QBs every year so that you can take advantage when one becomes available. The Packers acquired Brett Favre from Atlanta and the 49ers got Steve Young from Tampa Bay. Those moves both led to super bowl wins. New Orleans was able to acquiure Drew Brees from San Diego, and won a super bowl with him. The Giants had a good QB, Ryan Nassib, but just like Atlanta, New Orleans, and Tampa Bay, they didn’t realize what they had. I think he’s a free agent. Anybody could have him. Someone like Bill Belichick will end up signing him and winning with him. You don’t always have to have a high draft pick to acquire a good QB, but you do have to know how to scout QBs.

  19. So you want Marc Ross who couldn’t find talent at most positions to scout the position that can screw teams up for years, QB? Sounds like the Giants might be a dumpster fire for more years now.

  20. Jim0tt0 says:
    November 8, 2017 at 9:06 am
    Wait, how many super rings does Brady have? I mean how many that he actually earned fair and square … could be zero.

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    I looked it up. Its 5. I then double checked for asterisks just in case but there were none.

  21. wib22 says:
    November 8, 2017 at 8:09 am
    eli beat brady twice in the super bowl

    HOF!

    What about that pats fans?
    ————–

    Keep living in the past, it’s all NYC’s got.

  22. ajsjr40 says:
    November 8, 2017 at 8:28 am
    I’m not sure Eli beat Brady twice though I know the Giants beat the Patriots twice.
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    While I agree with you because it’s the ultimate team game, you can’t have it both ways. Is Brady the GOAT because he has 5 rings? Or is Brady just a large piece of an organization that has 5 rings?

  23. Um, don’t most teams have their scouting departments do this anyway? Yeah, I get Eli is getting a little long in the tooth, but this is what scouting department do for each team. It’s really not news.

  24. This dumpster fire could not happen to a better owner, Mara the snake 🙂 I’m convinced he lays awake at night, trying to figure out how to screw over his division opponents! I won’t even get started about how old Rog has tried to bail his bud out. Fired TC, imo, because he had too much integrity, but the Jags are doing well, with him in almost full control 🙂 Friel is trying to do Mara’s dirty work now, but this is the only way Rog can help his buddy, w/o thinking he’s being obvious…..

  25. cardinealsfan20 says:

    November 8, 2017 at 8:34 am

    They better include Lamar Jackson in that list.
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    Negative.

  26. Does this mean Phil Sims & Jeff Hostettler’s rings are tainted since BB was the defensive coordinator? Everyone knows Parcells couldn’t win a damn thing without Belechik, but you Giant fans still count the first 2 rings don’t you? Goes to show you what a bunch of frauds a lot of Giant fans truly are

  27. how dare they scout college qb’s when there is only one qb they should be considering, krapernick! it’s collusion I tell you, collusion! /endsarcasm

  28. Let’s say the Giants get a new QB who is better but not great.
    How will that fix the Oline?
    The lack of pass rush?
    The bad draft selection of players since 2011?

    The problem with the team starts at the top.
    Look at the team’s drafts and moves since winning the Super Bowl. Its been a slow decline, and 6 overall below average drafts resulting in a bad roster.

  29. wib22 says:
    November 8, 2017 at 8:09 am
    eli beat brady twice in the super bowl

    HOF!

    What about that pats fans?
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    Last I checked it was the Giants who beats the Patriots. In large part to their strong defense.

  30. @silvernblacksabbath – You’ve never even seen Lamar Jackson play. The Giants offensive line is not going to improve significantly by next season. They need a mobile QB, especially one who is a transcendent athlete.

  31. The whole team has given up. Thats definitely on the Qb?

    NO, its on the coach. Eli and Coughlin were due for a 3rd SB win against the patriots last year. Whomever decided to fire Coughlin was foolish.

  32. The Skins after losing Cousins will trade a future 1st rounder for a washed up Eli, and proceed to sign him to the largest QB contract in history, only to cut him mid way through his second season.

  33. Jim Plunkett won two Super Bowls as the Raiders QB and he’s not in the HOF. Neither should Eli. Too damn inconsistent when his career is looked at in its totality. Too many fumbles, INT’s and poor play too often.

  34. They need to put their focus on rebuilding that line instead wasting their time putting another quarterback thru the pain and suffering on that inept offensive line.

  35. grogan537 says:
    November 8, 2017 at 8:20 am

    What team doesn’t scout college quarterbacks?

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    Ladies and gentlemen, the Cleveland Browns.

  36. This can all be traced back to the ill-decision to let Coughlin go instead of Reese. You cannot blame Coughlin for not being able to coach with the ingredients he was getting. Will Beatty, James Brewer, Matt McCants, Brandon Mosely,Erick Herman, and most recently, Ereck Flowers have been misses. He has not been able to draft linemen and the team has suffered. The Giants still have an opportunity if they trade Odell. I say trade him to Tennessee for Taylor Lewan, move Ereck Flowers to Right Guard, Pugh to Right Tackle, keep Richburg at Center and draft Cody O’Connell for Left Guard. Rosen or Darnold are not the answers.

  37. I’m a giants fan, but that’s before, bmarsh turned out to to well…..not be the 2015 b marsh everybody expected, before we didn’t draft an olineman til the second round, and whole bunch of other stuff that make up this s*** shell. We we’re then talking sb.

  38. with the current OL, incl 1st round pick, hahahahahahaha, Erick Flowers, it don’t matter who’s the QB, they’ll be seeing more turf then passes thrown!
    We love Jerry Reese! – Every other team besides the giants

  39. As long as those that witnessed the Brady-Manning saga are alive, be it a 100 years from now, this same mud slinging will go on and on.

  40. @Harold Ramsey

    His name is Fin72 and you think he’s a Pats fan?

    You must be a Giants fan!

    A lot depends on whether Eli will play cheap as it makes no sense to pay OBJ $20 mil plus and Eli the same with no way to afford an OL or the rest of a team. A rookie throwing to OBJ makes little sense

    I won’t be surprised to see both of them gone in a year but the ball is in Eli’s court

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