Derek Wolfe on Broncos: I think we stink

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The Broncos were 3-1 when they took their bye in Week Five and that break appears to have come at exactly the wrong time.

Sunday night’s 41-16 thrashing by the Patriots was the fifth straight loss for the Broncos since the bye week and they have been outscored 92-39 over the last two weeks as things have spiraled to the lowest level yet. The special teams were the leading disaster against New England, but coach Vance Joseph said “all three phases” contributed to a loss that left defensive end Derek Wolfe with a particularly sour assessment of his club.

“I think we stink … It’s just sad. It’s real sad,” Wolfe said, via the Denver Post. “It’s sad that we went from a championship-caliber team to a team that stinks and nobody respects us.”

Wolfe described himself as demoralized after the loss and he’s surely not alone in that feeling as the Broncos’ season has taken such a severe turn for the worse over the last month-plus. Given how widespread the issues have been, it’s hard to imagine they’re going to sort them all out in time to reverse the drop that Wolfe outlined on Sunday night.

59 responses to “Derek Wolfe on Broncos: I think we stink

  1. There were clear signs going back to last year that they couldn’t stop the run and the Bronco’s reacted like any team would in that situation by blitzing gaps.

    Eventually the smoke goes away though and it becomes clear.

  2. He’s probably just mad because he signed an extension in 2015 at a much lower salary than he could have gotten a few months later.

  3. Joseph is a horrible coach. What was Elway thinking when he hired him?

    Too many men on the field on a punt and the Pats gets a first down is a coaching turnover. Another time, they had ten men on the field and Brady had easy pickings for a TD.

    That team is unmotivated and a joke. This was a Sunday night game against the Patriots and they didn’t even show up. You can’t even blame Osweiler.

  4. Having a good QB (and Going to the Super Bowl) hides a multitude of sins. Now that Pyton is gone, you can see that Elway has done a horrible job building a roster. He’s a former QB but they haven’t drafted a quality QB since he’s been there.

  5. Since the bye, you can forgive the last 3 losses to the Pats, Eagles and Chiefs, but not the 2 losses before – shut out by Chargers and losing to the Giants. However, Brock didn’t play too badly, and since changing to him you have only lost to the two best teams in the league. Don’t change again too soon – you’ve just seen the huge gap between the best couple of teams and the rest of the league.

  6. He is right, they do stink!! They do not make adjustments. Not only during the game, but from week to week. McKenzie has fumbled 5 times on punt returns. They put him out there again. Its crazy. I have never seen this level of stupidity on any team. Its an embarrassment to the Broncos organization. The coachiong staff needs over hauled. They are garbage.

  7. Wolfe is right. The Broncos do stink. In a year and a half they’ve gone from a championship winner to one of the worse teams in the league. It’s not just the players, it’s also the coaches, management, and ultimately ownership. At least the Cleveland Browns have the excuse that their players are crappy. Not the Broncos. They have no excuses.

  8. pastabelly says:
    November 13, 2017 at 8:04 am

    Joseph is a horrible coach. What was Elway thinking when he hired him?

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    What Elway values most in a HC rather than success on the field is that the guy is willing to lick Elway’s boots. Successful Broncos HCs like Dan Reeves (when Elway was a player) and John Fox who refused to ingratiate themselves with Elway wound up getting fired.

  9. I don’t mean to cry Wolfe, but I think it was him that roughed up Brandin Cooks out of bounds in garbage time. His frustration was showing, best to take it out on a helpless wide receiver…

  10. Flash1287 says:
    November 13, 2017 at 8:19 am
    Maybe they would have played better if Von Miller was active for the game.
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    Speaking of Miller, indirectly, I would like to see the Pats extend Waddle (the guy who helped make Miller vanish) before the playoffs. He has developed into a very good swing tackle, and I expect there are teams already looking at him as a potential Right Tackle starter available as a UFA next off-season.

  11. Maybe if you stop running your mouth, pumping PEDs, knocking out people in bars with no punishment and be realistic, you won’t stink so much?

    Oh, the joy of Horseteeth exposed after his checkbook ran out of checks.

  12. It’s too early to toss Joseph (it’s only his first season, and he didn’t turn over much of the staff), but that special teams debacle-not to mention McKenzie’s previous fumbles-is enough to reevaluate that position in the offseason. You need to give Joseph enough time to take a look at the changes he wants to make over the offseason, not necessarily right now. The season is basically done, but the Broncos still need to try and win games so they can see where their deficiencies really are (middle linebacker, offensive tackle, defensive end, return man, and an additional wide reciever) and see if their coaching staff is suitable for whatever Joseph wants to do. Elway hasn’t done an awful job entirely, but if he doesn’t use this season to diagnose his problems and find specific players to fill these holes, then that would qualify as failure.

  13. Observations from last night’s game:

    1) The Broncos need Von Miller to rush the passer….not drop back in coverage

    2) Emanuel Sanders is a stud. Malcom Butler covered him pretty tightly all night and Sanders still made the catches

    3) BB has an uncanny knack in seeing something in players that others miss. Case in point: Rex Burkhead.

    4) It makes no sense to pay a RB big money anymore. Having 2-3 really good RBs with different skill sets is the way to go

  14. Flash1287 says:
    November 13, 2017 at 8:19 am
    Maybe they would have played better if Von Miller was active for the game.

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    LOL

    Most overrated player in the league. I have only seen him ONCE have a good game vs NE and it was because Marcus Cannon had turf toe and was on one foot.

  15. mazenblue says:
    November 13, 2017 at 7:52 am
    Should have kept Tebow. The Tebow effect

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    I don’t think having another garbage quarterback would help them…

  16. Say what you want about the QBs fact is the team’s chemistry has been off since Wolfe’s comments about the protest, especially on defense. They can’t create third and long, they get gashed up the middle.

    Don’t take my word for it. Take a collective look at the timeline, stats and their record.

  17. Donks fans honest question here.

    Have the Broncos special teams been this bad all year? I was fully expecting the first story this morning was that they fired the special teams coach after that game last night. Four major screw ups by their STs last night. Handed the game to the Pats.

  18. Ugadogs21 says:
    November 13, 2017 at 10:11 am
    Say what you want about the QBs fact is the team’s chemistry has been off since Wolfe’s comments about the protest, especially on defense. They can’t create third and long, they get gashed up the middle.

    Don’t take my word for it. Take a collective look at the timeline, stats and their record.

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    Maybe, but when you get into cap hell like Denver has, with a mass exodus of quality players leaving every offseason, it creates a lack of continuity. It’s finally caught up to them. Gotsis is not better than Malik Jackson, etc. I can name numerous players that have left and point to why the ones who have replaced them, are not as good.

    Elway was busy buying up FAs from 2013-2015, and now it’s time to pay the piper. The real question is, is he really a good GM or did his checkbook and irresponsbility with cap health, mask how mediocre he likely is?

    As Denver rebuilds, he better start hitting on draft picks, too. That’s another thing he has not done so well as a GM.

    Ozzie Newsome, Ted Thompson, Elway, etc..All wildly overrated as GMs.

  19. One of the most complete games by the Pats. They did the opposite of what the Broncos did on defense…pressure Brady, he dumps it RBs or TEs. Fall back into secondary, he hands it off…it was clinical dissection of the Broncos defense. Can’t say Broncos played all that bad, but with Brady at QB, one cannot make mistakes. And the Broncos special teams sunk them. Plus, kicking field goals all game against Brady isn’t enough…will never be enough.
    Sanders was impressive. Poor Butler…he got shake and baked.
    Usually Pats have issues in mile high, but last night, they owned it. Have to work on secondary coverage as they got gashed a few times. And Brady was a beast. Crisp throws…

  20. harrisonhits2 says:
    November 13, 2017 at 10:12 am
    Donks fans honest question here.

    Have the Broncos special teams been this bad all year? I was fully expecting the first story this morning was that they fired the special teams coach after that game last night. Four major screw ups by their STs last night. Handed the game to the Pats.

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    Pats fan here, but I’ll answer:

    Yes. McKenzie has been fumbling and Vance Moron still puts him out there.

    They have a new STs coach, some hack cast off from the Chiefs.

    They also have a lot of new bodies because of cap hell and Elway’s poor drafting.

  21. Bad coaching is where it starts. Stupid things like punting down 20 something points with under 5 minutes to go??? They just let Wade Philips walk away for nothing…

  22. tylawspick6 says:
    November 13, 2017 at 10:30 am
    Ugadogs21 says:
    November 13, 2017 at 10:11 am
    Say what you want about the QBs fact is the team’s chemistry has been off since Wolfe’s comments about the protest, especially on defense. They can’t create third and long, they get gashed up the middle.

    Don’t take my word for it. Take a collective look at the timeline, stats and their record.

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    Maybe, but when you get into cap hell like Denver has, with a mass exodus of quality players leaving every offseason, it creates a lack of continuity. It’s finally caught up to them. Gotsis is not better than Malik Jackson, etc. I can name numerous players that have left and point to why the ones who have replaced them, are not as good.

    Elway was busy buying up FAs from 2013-2015, and now it’s time to pay the piper. The real question is, is he really a good GM or did his checkbook and irresponsbility with cap health, mask how mediocre he likely is?

    As Denver rebuilds, he better start hitting on draft picks, too. That’s another thing he has not done so well as a GM.

    Ozzie Newsome, Ted Thompson, Elway, etc..All wildly overrated as GMs.

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    Good points

  23. There is a lot of talent in the Broncos. They’re one or two pieces away from getting back to what they were on 2015. They also had far too many mental errors last night.

  24. jstew0103 says:
    November 13, 2017 at 10:55 am
    There is a lot of talent in the Broncos. They’re one or two pieces away from getting back to what they were on 2015. They also had far too many mental errors last night.

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    You are delusional. They are rebuilding and they don’t have a QB of the future that they like.

    Their O Line blows, they lack depth at RB, Sanders is a FA, Demarius THomas is overpaid and not a #1 WR, you have no TE unless you want to count a former college QB as your TE, and your Def Line is nowhere near what it was in 2015.

    The linebackers are mediocre. And, Talib is not getting any cheaper or younger. Shall I keep going?

  25. Arizona should see if Denver is interested in trading him, if they are the Cardinals should try to get him for a mid round pick . Wolfe would make a nice addition up front especially young DT’s Robert Nkimdiche and Olsen Pierre really starting to come on strong and come into their own , both are going to be absolute monster. Pierre is developing into a pass rushing monster.

  26. For the ill-informed, talent is definitely not the issue for this team. This team is stacked at many positions. It is coaching. The players are not put into the best situations to succeed and they have basically given up. I hate to say it this early but.. Vance Joseph has got to go!

  27. good ole GM Elway, this is his team, the team stunk before GM Manning, GM Manning brought in all these guys that wanna play with him, wins a super bowl and retires. Now your back to the real GM, GM Elway who has proven himself to be the biggest sham in the world, but since he won 2 super bowls 20 yrs ago, that you can’t speak ill about him, because he knows what he’s doing. One would think if you were a QB that you would be able to scout QBs.

  28. milehighcityboss says:
    November 13, 2017 at 11:18 am
    For the ill-informed, talent is definitely not the issue for this team. This team is stacked at many positions. It is coaching. The players are not put into the best situations to succeed and they have basically given up. I hate to say it this early but.. Vance Joseph has got to go!

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    Care to share with us which positions your team is “stacked” with for the future?

  29. Answer this – What did Vance Joseph accomplish as an NFL Asst. Coach that merited his being interviewed, let alone being hired, for the Denver HC opening? Joseph accomplished absolutely nothing of significance. He field a very mediocre defense while DC at Miami for a single year. I just don’t understand. The Broncos are getting what they deserve.

  30. As a Broncos fan, I am genuinely disgusted in Elway. Joe Ellis needs to get this ship righted for next year and maybe that means Elway needs to go. I feel for VJ b/c this is the situation he came into. A great defense and poop for special teams and offense. What the heck is Booker doing returning kickoffs and why are they running Booker up the middle? The guy was drafted to be used in space. Elway has done decent in putting a high-caliber defense together but outside of that he just doesn’t seem to care. It is a sad time in Denver right now and we have no one to blame but the front office. Team Dumpster Fire at its finest.

  31. tylawspick6 says:
    November 13, 2017 at 11:23 am
    milehighcityboss says:
    November 13, 2017 at 11:18 am
    For the ill-informed, talent is definitely not the issue for this team. This team is stacked at many positions. It is coaching. The players are not put into the best situations to succeed and they have basically given up. I hate to say it this early but.. Vance Joseph has got to go!

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    Care to share with us which positions your team is “stacked” with for the future?

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    Stacked is definitely the wrong adjective. Have some good depth at safety and CB, WR and RB. Built to win NOW on defense but there are holes all over at TE, D-line, O-line, ST, and QB.

  32. jstew0103 says:
    November 13, 2017 at 10:55 am
    There is a lot of talent in the Broncos. They’re one or two pieces away from getting back to what they were on 2015. They also had far too many mental errors last night.

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    Bro, let’s keep it 100 here. We are nowhere near what we were in 2015. It will be 2-3 years before we are at that point and as long as Elway continues on the path he is on, it will be even longer.

  33. vusnu says:
    November 13, 2017 at 12:15 pm

    Answer this – What did Vance Joseph accomplish as an NFL Asst. Coach that merited his being interviewed, let alone being hired, for the Denver HC opening? Joseph accomplished absolutely nothing of significance. He field a very mediocre defense while DC at Miami for a single year. I just don’t understand. The Broncos are getting what they deserve.
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    Totally agree. But even more baffling is why they decided to bring a former DC to a team that already had a strong D but desperately needed to develop some young QBs and improve on offense.

    It brings to mind the Bills hiring Rex into a similar situation and getting the exact same result.

  34. Man, people here are forgetting the Broncos won a SUPER BOWL. I heard people say then, “yes we’re going to suck after this Super Bowl win but that’s okay”, and now there’s all this disgruntled whining. Guys, this was a long time coming. Winning a Super Bowl has a price.

  35. So far, Elway has succeeded in copying the same basic blueprint of the Donk’s previous Mngmt, which is to buy a Superbowl. Bought a juiced Peyton Manning to capture a tainted SB ring, so now his 2015 ring is as tarnished as his 90’s rings, when the Donk’s cheated the salary cap to win SB’s.

    Sad, 3 tainted rings and a team on a 5 game losing streak.
    Elway’s Legacy.

  36. The two new head coaches in the AFC West both stink….one has been south for awhile and the Broncos are soon to join them

  37. The Broncos Defense started the game by forcing a punt, only to have it fall to the ground…. leading to the Pats TD. That was the end of the game right there. Just like that Safety in the 2014 SB, caused the team to just give up.

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