The 49ers have no plan for playing Jimmy Garoppolo

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The 49ers don’t know when recently acquired quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo will make his debut.

Coach Kyle Shanahan told reporters after Sunday’s game that speculation Garoppolo would start in two weeks, following this week’s bye, is incorrect.

“That’s not my plan,” Shanahan said. “I don’t have a plan yet. There’s no way anything you guys hear reported could be accurate, because I just told you guys our plan.”

After the bye would make sense because it would give the newcomer some extra time to prepare. But benching C.J. Beathard now wouldn’t make much sense: Beathard is coming off by far his best game, a 288-yard, two-touchdown effort in the 49ers’ first win of the season.

So it seems likely that Garoppolo will sit and wait. At some point the 49ers want to see what the guy they just spent a second-round pick on can do, but not at the cost of benching a rookie who’s playing well.

63 responses to “The 49ers have no plan for playing Jimmy Garoppolo

  1. Another system QB that will not do as well outside NE. As a matter of fact I predict BB will end up getting him back in NE in a few years.

  2. If McAdoo gets fired and Josh McDaniels is hired in NY, Garoppolo will be gone unless SF puts a franchise tag on him. They need to start playing Garoppolo NOW to see what they gave up a top 34 pick for (yes, Cleveland will pick first in the 2nd round).

  3. I assume he doesn’t want to put pressure on anyone but in the off chance he is telling the truth they just handed the Patriots the equivalent of a low first round pick for a guy to sit on the bench for 6 games.

    Like a previous poster said, at that point you are faced with franchising him or letting him walk.

    Hoyer even looked competent in mop up duty for the Pats yesterday and he cost the them nothing.

  4. He probably does have a plan but some of the coaching decisions and GM decisions being made this year make me wonder less about why the league sucks so bad. I tend to agree with one of the posters that I bet JG ends up average at best, like Matt Cassel, because everyone just assumes that QBs, like coaches who come out of BBs system are great. The VAST majority are not. So Shanny better get this guy on the field to figure out what they have or haven’t got.

  5. Those who doubt what Garoppolo can do need to remember that B.B. loves him, and if Brady had shown any sign of decline, he would have moved him instead. If I didn’t know anything else about the player other than that, it would still be enough for me to believe the kid can play. Only question in my mind is whether he can stay on the field.

  6. .
    Garopollo has been in San Francisco for two weeks. Let’s give the 49ers a chance to assess and assimilate his skill set now that he’s in camp. There’s not going to be any major personnel moves made at QB this morning.
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  7. objectivefootballfan says:
    November 13, 2017 at 8:01 am
    Would not shock me if the 49ers try to trade Jimmy Garoppolo in offseason and try to get a 1st round pick from another team or still try to go after Kirk Cousins!
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    Except he’s a FA at the end of the season and no one will give a first round pick for a franchised QB with no real game history. Once they put the tag on him they lose any leverage in a trade scenario.

  8. Why back up the GOAT on a Super Bowl caliber squad when you can back up CJ Beathard on a 1-win dumpster fire..

  9. Hahahahaha I love how the same clown is first to comment on another 9ers story. Like his shehawks are hopeless and needs us to validate him. Joe go away. You’ll never be a rivalry to us.

    Plenty of time to see what Garoppolo has in the coming months. May as well keep film in him to a minimum for now.

  10. YOU IDIOTS.. niners can trade next years top draft pick and recoup the pick they traded for Garapollo and get more! This team will be back in the playoffs in two years. They have 100 million in cap space and a boat load of draft picks. They will fix that offensive line and protect Jimmy and fix the secondary. They have 24 players in injured reserve you idiots. No team could win with that many people hurt! TROLLS!

  11. It’s in his best interest for Kyle to force the Seachickens to prepare to face Garoppolo or Beathard. What NFL coach is going to tip his hand two weeks in advance. It’s common sense.

  12. It’s simple – you know he can play QB, and he will command a princely sum in FA, and if he plays now and does well his FA value rockets higher. And with this season already gone it’s better to keep the “promise of JimmyG” for next year’s season-tickets hype – and for staff to keep their jobs at the end of this year. So play your other QBs because you might generate some value for trading them – and JimmyG won’t get injured in a pointless game.

  13. I wouldn’t want Garoppolo or Cousins. I’d rather have a young QB like Carson Wentz. There are 5 to 6 very good QBs coming out in the next draft. John Lynch will probably feel the same way I do, and go and draft the next great QB. Why settle for an average QB when you can have a super star? I don’t think Lynch and Shanahan were given 6 year contracts to finish somewhere in the middle of the pack. The 49ers have a great tradition of winning super bowls. This regime was hired to build on that. Don’t expect Kyle Shanahan to say that in a presser, but that’s probably what he’s thinking.

  14. You don’t give up a 2nd round pick for a soon to be free agent so he can be a backup on a 1-win team…..if that IS what they’re doing, then congrats on making Baalke look good

  15. I can easily see this turning into (another) difficult situation for Goodell. On the one hand, you don’t want the ‘Niners to sit Garoppolo in an effort to tank or in an effort to keep him from getting hurt in a season that isn’t going anywhere. If he is, as the team apparently believes, the best option for winning games, then he must eventually play this season for the sake of maintaining the competitive integrity of the league.

    On the other hand, at what point does Goodell tell the ‘Niners that they have to put Garoppolo in there? They, and not Goodell, are in the best position to determine when Garoppolo has a sufficient grasp of the offense to begin to play. And what if Casey Beathard balls out? I doubt if the ‘Niners will bench him if Beathard is playing well and the team is winning.

  16. charliecharger says:
    November 13, 2017 at 9:08 am
    The 49ers have a great tradition of winning super bowls. This regime was hired to build on that.

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    Really? When is the last time they did that?

  17. finzfan49 says:
    November 13, 2017 at 8:02 am
    NE is the best place for a QB. For 2 decades its just screens and slants, never getting hit, no reading through progressions. We’ve seen every qb there do extremely well, that offense makes a 6/10 qb look like a 9/10.

  18. “I wouldn’t want Garoppolo or Cousins. I’d rather have a young QB like Carson Wentz”

    Wentz is like a year younger than Garoppolo. Jimmy is 26, Wentz turns 25 in a month.

  19. So a team desperate for talent trades a nice pick for a potential franchise-changing player, weeks in they still have no plan for integrating said player into the lineup?

    Makes sense…

  20. rufustfireflyjr says:
    November 13, 2017 at 9:43 am
    I can easily see this turning into (another) difficult situation for Goodell. On the one hand, you don’t want the ‘Niners to sit Garoppolo in an effort to tank or in an effort to keep him from getting hurt in a season that isn’t going anywhere. If he is, as the team apparently believes, the best option for winning games, then he must eventually play this season for the sake of maintaining the competitive integrity of the league.

    On the other hand, at what point does Goodell tell the ‘Niners that they have to put Garoppolo in there? They, and not Goodell, are in the best position to determine when Garoppolo has a sufficient grasp of the offense to begin to play. And what if Casey Beathard balls out? I doubt if the ‘Niners will bench him if Beathard is playing well and the team is winning.

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    For all his abuses of authority I still dont think Goodell can go into a team and say play this guy and not that guy no matter what he thinks or wants.

  21. He also said the team is getting time off. Jimmy G will work some with coaches during that time and they get back together next Monday. CJ is banged up a little so they will see how everyone is when they get back together. Great plan. Not the definite plan of Adam S.

  22. streetyson says:
    November 13, 2017 at 9:07 am
    It’s simple – you know he can play QB, and he will command a princely sum in FA, and if he plays now and does well his FA value rockets higher. And with this season already gone it’s better to keep the “promise of JimmyG” for next year’s season-tickets hype – and for staff to keep their jobs at the end of this year. So play your other QBs because you might generate some value for trading them – and JimmyG won’t get injured in a pointless game.

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    Jimmy G’s value to the 49ers is at minimum the franchise tag as that is what it will cost to keep him because he is a UFA. Don’t you think they should see if he is worth that much money?

  23. objectivefootballfan says:
    November 13, 2017 at 8:01 am

    Would not shock me if the 49ers try to trade Jimmy Garoppolo in offseason and try to get a 1st round pick from another team or still try to go after Kirk Cousins!

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    He’s a free agent. All they can do is tag him. Who is going to trade a 1st round pick for a guy who is making the salary of the franchise tag for an unknown player which HE IS.

    The 49ers can’t have it both ways. Either they franchise tag him and don’t get a free agent QB like Cousins (because he won’t come here when another guy is making 25 million or whatever the tag is).

    Now there is ONE option they could do. Have JG and the tag as backup in case they can’t sign a free agent, with the knowledge that WHEN they sign someone else, they rescind the franchise tag.

    Of course that only works until JG signs the tag, then they’re screwed. So they really don’t have that much leverage, because JG isn’t going to hold out, he’s going to sign that tag as soon as it’s placed on him i’m sure.

    So the 49ers are basically wasting a high 2nd round pick if they play this game and let him go. If they sign him without actually playing him for awhile and seeing what he actually is, then he could be a HUGE bust.

    They really need to play him at least a few games before the end of the season.

    But go ahead and go into the next offseason blind to what your actual needs are or aren’t, I’m sure that’s the way the 49ers build a championship squad.

  24. Sit on him all season, franchise him then trade him for a 2nd top 5 pick to Cleveland, sign Cousins to a huge deal and have 2 top 5 picks to build the OL to epic level and a QB for the next decade.

  25. If Beathard is ineffective, then they will put Garapollo in the game. OTOH, they may not play him even if Beathard is not playing well if they want to go for the number 1 overall pick in the draft and pick a franchise QB.

  26. finzfan49 says:
    November 13, 2017 at 8:02 am
    NE is the best place for a QB. For 2 decades its just screens and slants, never getting hit, no reading through progressions. We’ve seen every qb there do extremely well, that offense makes a 6/10 qb look like a 9/10.
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    If that’s true then why doesn’t every team do the same thing? That way every team would have a 9/10 QB. I’m guessing it’s a bit more complicated than that.

  27. Cousins gets tagged by WSH and Garappalo gets tagged by SF. Because Cousins wont sign long term in WSH, to release cap pressure coming from franchise tag for a 3rd year, WSH makes a two way sign and trade with SF. SF gets their original target (Cousins) who reunites with Shanny, Cousins gets the long term deal he wants, WSH is no longer hamstrung by franchise tag cap hit, gets a serviceable QB in return and an 3rd rd pick (no later than 67th overall).

  28. Week 15 he’ll play 1 quarter and hand off 9 times. Clara trying to keep his price down if they decide they want him long term. I hope Jimmy makes em franchise tag him. Clara will be going 3-13 again next year….as their plan is to lose like the 76ers for atleast 2 years.

  29. Shanahan is a smart guy- of course he has a plan- but why tell the press? Bellichik certainly wouldn’t. If they don’t they are hurting themselves for next year where they could effectively throw 2 high draft picks away since Jimmy could walk as a FA. Franchise tagging a QB who didn’t play is madness, and ties up so much money for a team on the “rebuild”

    Jimmy G. is NOT the same as Brian Hoyer or Ryan Mallet. They were typical we need to get a back up in the draft type picks. Garropolo is the only QB that the Pats did extensive research on and spent a high pick on since Brady was the starter. He was intended to be Brady’s replacement- that cannot be said for any of the other Pats QB picks.

  30. Micah Orloff says:
    November 13, 2017 at 12:01 pm
    Cousins gets tagged by WSH and Garappalo gets tagged by SF. Because Cousins wont sign long term in WSH, to release cap pressure coming from franchise tag for a 3rd year, WSH makes a two way sign and trade with SF. SF gets their original target (Cousins) who reunites with Shanny, Cousins gets the long term deal he wants, WSH is no longer hamstrung by franchise tag cap hit, gets a serviceable QB in return and an 3rd rd pick (no later than 67th overall).

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    Don’t think so.

    Cousins would have to be paid somewhere around 44 million for 1 year if franchised again.

    There are separate rules when trying to deal “Franchised” players too.

  31. objectivefootballfan says:
    November 13, 2017 at 8:01 am
    Would not shock me if the 49ers try to trade Jimmy Garoppolo in offseason and try to get a 1st round pick from another team or still try to go after Kirk Cousins!
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    Jimmy Garoppolo is a free agent after the season. Good luck trying to trade him…

  32. He’ll be signed to a longterm deal before the next game. I think that’s always been the plan.

    They’re not going to trade him and this isn’t a tryout. They see him as their QB of the future and there are fewer strings attached than with Cousins (probably).

    If you’re Garoppolo, this is a great situation. You go to a team with a ton of money under the cap, a head coach with a good history of working with QBs who has good job security. Plus, there’s nowhere to go but up.

  33. If you’re the 49ers and trade for a qb of Garappolo’s presumed caliber, if you don’t already believe you know his skill level you should be fired. That they need to look at him in house to gauge his skill is LAUGHABLE.

  34. Belichick and Andy Reid are the masters of making other teams believe that their backups are the next Kurt Warner and getting a kings ransom for them in trades. SF just got robbed for a high second rounder. They do however need to get him in and see if he can do anything before they sign him to a long term deal.

  35. Play Jimmy.You are going to have to pay him major dollars in the offseason. Before you do that you MUST check under the hood.

    Besides, you already know that a QB who did just OK against a New York team that didn’t show up is not the answer.

  36. finzfan49 says:

    November 13, 2017 at 8:02 am

    Another system QB that will not do as well outside NE. As a matter of fact I predict BB will end up getting him back in NE in a few years.

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    You forget that Matt Cassel’s best year was with Kansas City and not the Pats

  37. 49ers not playing Jimmy G is a little weird as he will be a free agent at the end of the year. The only thing that makes any sense if they don’t play him is that they are reluctant to inflate his value if he does well especially since they are already well out of the playoff picture. They can franchise tag him of course but they obviously would like a long term deal in place.

  38. wib22 says:

    November 13, 2017 at 9:43 am

    Nothing without the pats cheating system
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    Too bad both Bledsoe and Cassel had better years after leaving Pats.

  39. “everyone just assumes that QBs, like coaches who come out of BBs system are great.”
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    And they’re wrong. McDaniel, with Tebow instead of Brady, was a total flop as Denver’s HC. Wasn’t hot as an OC with the Rams either. He rode Brady’s success, that’s all. When he left the Pats, Brady and the team was just as good without him.
    McCoy “coached” Manning to a SuperBowl win, but didn’t do squat as a HC in San Diego. When a once in a lifetime QB falls into your lap it’s easy to get credit for his achievement. Brady and Manning would have been great regardless of their coach. Hell, I could coach Brady or Manning to a SB, and I know about as much about coaching as about molecular biology.

  40. Has anyone thought that maybe SF really wants JG and will sign him to a long term deal before the end of this season, but why play him now? If he plays well, that raises his contract demands and lowers their draft pick if they win games – why would SF want to do that? They see him in practice every day and can determine if he’s what they want there without needing to play him.

    SF has given up on this year and are in full tank mode – why play someone who might help you win games?

  41. The secret to The pAts long time success is not the QB or the coach it’s the culture of the New England patriots organization which consistently encourages and fosters through focus and determination a constant focus on ensuring a team that moves on every opportunity to realize the organizational paradigm of non compliance with league rules.

  42. finzfan49 says:
    November 13, 2017 at 8:02 am
    NE is the best place for a QB. For 2 decades its just screens and slants, never getting hit, no reading through progressions. We’ve seen every qb there do extremely well, that offense makes a 6/10 qb look like a 9/10.

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    Brady was 2nd in the NFL in yards per attempt last year and is 4th this year. And if he was as replaceable as you suggest, Belichick would have got rid of him for picks and/or cap space like he has so many other good players who got expensive against the cap.

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