Case Keenum shows teams can’t evaluate quarterbacks, and other Week 11 thoughts

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If you want to know how clueless all of us — and I mean everyone who watches the NFL and everyone who works in the NFL — is about evaluating quarterbacks, just take a look at the contracts these four free agent quarterbacks signed this year:

Mike Glennon got a contract that pays him $18 million this year with the Bears.

Jay Cutler got a contract that pays him $10 million this year with the Dolphins.

Brian Hoyer got a contract that pays him $7 million this year with the 49ers.

Case Keenum got a contract that pays him $2 million this year with the Vikings.

How has that worked out? Glennon was awful and got benched after four games. Cutler was awful and may have lost his starting job yesterday. Hoyer was awful and got benched, and then cut.

And Keenum? The guy whose contract was dwarfed by those other free agent quarterbacks? He’s an MVP candidate. Yesterday Keenum had 280 passing yards, a touchdown and no turnovers, and the Vikings whipped the previously hot Rams to improve to 8-2 and maintain a two-game lead in the NFC North. Keenum wouldn’t be my first choice for league MVP, but he absolutely deserves some consideration, having played very well this season after being thrown in following a Week One injury to Sam Bradford. If Keenum plays well and the Vikings keep winning, and maybe if Carson Wentz and Tom Brady have some bad games down the stretch, Keenum really has a chance to be named league MVP.

Think about that: A guy who was available in free agency to anyone who wanted him, who signed for one-ninth of what Mike Glennon got from the Bears, could be the league MVP.

How does that happen? I think it happens because NFL teams just aren’t very good at evaluating quarterbacks. The Bears saw Glennon and Keenum available and thought Glennon was worth nine times as much money as Keenum. The 49ers paid Hoyer good money and he played so badly he’s not even on the 49ers anymore. The Dolphins thought Jay Cutler would be their savior after Ryan Tannehill got hurt, and Cutler isn’t even as good as the guy they already had, Matt Moore.

And it’s not just this year’s free agents: Last year the Texans gave Brock Osweiler a huge contract, and he was so bad that this year the Texans gave the Browns a second-round draft pick just to take Osweiler’s contract off their hands. Last year the Broncos traded up in the first round to draft Paxton Lynch, and he can’t even beat out Osweiler, who’s now back in Denver. And Lynch isn’t even the worst recent first-round quarterback: At least he’s still in the league, which is more than we can say for Johnny Manziel. But NFL teams waited until the fourth round to draft Dak Prescott and Kirk Cousins.

Teams can’t even evaluate the quarterbacks on their own teams, the guys they see at practice every single day: Bills Sean McDermott actually thought Nathan Peterman was a better quarterback than Tyrod Taylor, a laughably bad decision that McDermott went back on yesterday after Peterman threw five interceptions in the first half. And speaking of obviously wrong decisions that changed after one half, don’t forget that Texans coach Bill O’Brien started Tom Savage over Deshaun Watson before benching Savage at halftime of Week One.

Maybe some day some team will devise the perfect scouting method, or the perfect statistical analysis, to identify the best quarterbacks in a draft or free agent class. But for now, teams stink at evaluating quarterbacks.

Here are my other thoughts from Week One:

Jay Gruden calling a fake punt from his own 16-yard line was my favorite call of the year. Yes, Washington ended up losing to New Orleans. But I just loved that aggressive play call from Gruden, who wasn’t afraid to try a high-risk, high-reward move. Statistical analysis has repeatedly shown that coaches should be more aggressive on fourth downs. Gruden was, and he’s to be commended for it.

A record-breaking field goal is coming to Mexico City. The NFL announced yesterday that it will play one game per year in Mexico City through at least 2021. I’m calling it now, in one of those Mexico City games we’ll see the first 65-yard field goal in NFL history. The current record is 64 yards, set by Matt Prater in Denver. Yesterday in Mexico City, Patriots kicker Stephen Gostkowski made one from 62 yards that easily would have been good from 65 or longer. The altitude of Mexico City (more than 7,000 feet above sea level, significantly higher than Denver) makes kicked footballs travel farther, and it’s only a matter of time before we see an NFL record south of the border.

The Packers were shut out at Lambeau Field for the first time in 11 years. Brett Hundley threw three interceptions in yesterday’s 23-0 loss to the Ravens, and he just doesn’t look ready to be an NFL quarterback. He holds onto the ball way too long, including getting sacked twice on fourth downs. Packers coach Mike McCarthy and his staff have not done a good job of getting Hundley ready to play.

The Jaguars have their first four-game winning streak in a decade. Yesterday’s win over the Browns was four in a row for Jacksonville, something that hasn’t happened since 2007. Are we all ready for the Jaguars to be a playoff team? Because at 7-3 in the weak AFC, the Jaguars are virtually certain to be playing in January. Blake Bortles is going to be a playoff quarterback.

74 responses to “Case Keenum shows teams can’t evaluate quarterbacks, and other Week 11 thoughts

  1. Doug Marrone deserves more credit. He has the Jags winning and was the only one to get the Bills over .500 in over a decade! (Then quickly got out of dodge.)

  2. Unfortunately, there was a later 4th and inches that Gruden should have gone for that he didn’t.

  3. With the packers 2017 season being over since October 15th. I am not sure why you bothered to report anything from that game. Two bad teams playing and one had to win. The Ravens are not as bad as the packers, so they won.

  4. Keenum has played great for the the Vikings this year. He is doing everything they have asked from him and more. I know I hear Goff getting a pass this year for his poor performances during the Fisher years. Why isn’t Case Keenum getting the same pass then?

  5. Let’s get this straight right now. Case Keenum should not even be in discussion as league MVP. I am a huge Viking fan, who watches every game. This team is balanced for the first time in a long time. That’s how you win games.

  6. “The Packers were shut out at Lambeau Field for the first time in 11 years. Brett Hundley threw three interceptions in yesterday’s 23-0 loss to the Ravens, and he just doesn’t look ready to be an NFL quarterback. He holds onto the ball way too long, including getting sacked twice on fourth downs. Packers coach Mike McCarthy and his staff have not done a good job of getting Hundley ready to play.”

    Understatement of the year…

    And it was just last week we were told by Packer fans that after Hundley’s performance against the Bears – that would give him confidence and momentum to keep the Packers in the playoff hunt until Rodgers could come back.

    Well, all that confidence and momentum just flew out the window. The Packers were embarrassed at home by a team with a losing record (well, they are now 5 – 5 now, after shutting out the Packers).

    Will the Packers win another game this season? Seriously…

  7. “Hoyer…paid $7M by 49ers this year… was awful and got benched, and then cut.”
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    He wasn’t really “cut” as in dumped, everyone knows it just enabled the Pats not to pay his salary. And everyone forgets Hoyer was undrafted, and despite playing for 6 (mostly poor) teams with very different coaches, mostly as a backup in other QBs’ schemes, thru last year before the 49ers he amazingly had an above .500 (16-15) record as starter! $7M was not excessive. Even now, after a horrid spell with the 9ers, he still has an 83.4 career rating (compare that to Flacco’s 83.8). The Pats have now got him on a 3yr, $4.4M deal ($476k this yr), where he will look a lot better than he did on the 9ers & Browns – he probably look more like the 5-4, 91.4 rating at the Texans, which is more than ok for a backup.

  8. System and coach has as much to do with a QB’s performance as anything else. So far Zimmer’s staff has made Bradford, Bridgewater, and Keenum all look like franchise QBs. I wonder if there’s a pattern there…

  9. It begins with owners not knowing how to evaluate GM candidates. If the owners would ask candidates for all their scouting reports on QB’s they’ve written up over the last 10 years, they’d hire the GM’s that had the best track records with QB’s. The way it is now, the candidates are going to brag about their hits, but forget to mention their misses. Since nobody seems to be keeping records (which is a crazy notion in itself), the owners end up hiring the best talkers. It’s true coaching does make a difference, but you can’t coach the things we see guys like Carson Wentz and Tom Brady doing.

  10. The difference between Keenum and those other high priced QBs is Keenum is on a great team. Mike Zimmer turned a QB nightmare into a QB controversy…he deserves coach of the year for the lemonade he’s made out of lemons.

  11. Its prety simple really … Some Qbs need more time to develope then others . The NFL since the CBA does not give teams / players enough time to do it anymore . So its a win now league . Its a shame because Im sure plenty of these guys get that get thrown to wolves could of been good QBs giving the right time .

  12. Breaking news…Dak struggles when he doesn’t have his all world offensive line in tact. Could he be getting exposed as just mediocre? A lot of mediocre QBs could look good when you have 5+ seconds to throw the ball every down. Cowboy’s fans, should he still go to the HOF?

  13. If Case had been signed to another team, I doubt he’d be functioning at this high level. Being on a very good team with coaches who can adjust to devastating injuries has a lot to do with his success. That’s why he wants to stay in Minnesota.

  14. I love what Keenum has done this year, but if you watch the games you’ll see he’s average to above average at best. He misses guys often, and even when he hits guys he ‘misses’ them – like when he overshot Thielen yesterday on a possible TD only Thielen made a great diving catch. He has the league’s best defense, an incredible o-line, great receivers, and a very nice run game thanks to that o-line, which is why he looks as good as he does. But he’s not overly accurate even on completions, and still makes some bad decisions that will cost the Vikings. Hopefully he does enough to keep them winning down the stretch, but I think people need to watch him more before declaring him among the league’s best.

  15. Marcus Mariota is worse than Glennon, Cutler, Hoyer, and Keenum, but he’s going to get an even bigger contract than any of them, unfortunately. We’re stuck with years and years of horrible QB play for the Titans…

  16. Keenum is playing really good, but put him on the Bears and who he has as his main receiver? Kendall Weight? Having a solid set of receivers and a solid running back is essential for a QB success.

  17. Problems assessing QBs, like with everything else these days, is partly an over-reliance on stats/metrics. Before the digital age a more holistic approach was taken to just about everything and statistics (where they existed) were treated very warily as an abstract rather than a substantial thing. Now, it’s all data – in the computer age the tool (data & the capability for mass number crunching) has become the method, and the method (math & stats) has become the theory. The art of assessment, the art of most things, has gone, and a generation or two has now grown up, schooled to look at everything with a digital/numerical mindset – and probably won’t even understand what I’m trying to say – but I’ve lived through this change, both in naval engineering and then academic sciences (hard and “soft”), and can assure you we’ve lost as much as we’ve gained, maybe more.

  18. fmc651 says:
    November 20, 2017 at 6:44 am
    With the packers 2017 season being over since October 15th. I am not sure why you bothered to report anything from that game. Two bad teams playing and one had to win….
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    FWIW, a team did not have to win, the game could have ended in a tie. In fact, with those two offenses, a 0-0 tie would not have been a surprise.

  19. Kurt Warner looked great with the Rams. Then looked like crap with the Giants. Then great again with Arizona. His ability didn’t change from team to team, the difference is the systems. Keenum has had chances before and looked like crap, now he’s in a system that fits his skills.

  20. Problem with QBs is that only a handful of guys are so good that they can play with any supporting cast. Evaluating the other guys is really difficult without knowing everyone they’ll be playing with, or whether a star receiver or RB will get injured.

  21. Qb play is dependent on the teams scheme and talent. Keenum is thriving in Minnesota because he has a lot of talent around him and Schurmur is calling an excellent game. But that doesn’t mean Keenum doesn’t have any talent. Did you know that his 16 starts prior to joining the Vikings while playing on putrid teams in Houston and LA/Stl he was 9-7 as the starter? So this article does have good merit. Why in the world would Glennon get $18 million when we all knew he was terrible and couldn’t win with decent teams in Tampa and yet Case who somehow was a borderline playoff qb while orchestrating some of the worst teams in the league is only making $2 million? Well I think that comes down to the GM and Speilman has drafted and brought in some good free agents to build a solid team. Zimmer is also in the top echelon of coaches. So you need the right scheme and talent but the qb also needs to do his part.

  22. You’d think after such a long and shameful history, Vikings fans would know better than to do so much talking. It’s cool though, it makes it that much more hilarious when their team gets exposed.

  23. @vikesfan320… keenum is 9th in the NFL in completion %, his % thus far is better then bridgewater whos go a label for being accurate passer. Is he MVP, no but hes playing at a top 10 qb level, throwing the ball down field an commanding the offense…BTW this has nothing to do with Zimmer who knows little about offense, it has everything to do with shurmer an a great offensive line

  24. As great as Keenum is playing…let’s look at the start of your article:

    Glennon…on a bad team (but trying to learn how to win)

    Hoyer…on a bad team (trying to accumulate players)

    Cutler…on a bad team

    Keenum…on a team with a really good defense, a team that upgraded it’s O line and RBs and had several talented receivers

    I think if you put Keenum on the Bears or the Niners or Dolphins, your results would not be that different from what they currently are. It really does make a difference on what is around the QB. Case was a professional QB like the others. But the supporting cast has elevated him, and now he has elevated himself.

  25. I mean its not like Case Keenum had any success in college where you could have predicted this (he is the NCAA career yardage leader, by over 2K yards* and winner of the Sammy Baugh trophy twice)…. but because he was short (only 6′), NFL scouting departments dismissed him.

    Lessee, shortest starting QBs in the NFL:

    Russel Wilson 5’11”
    Drew Brees 6’0″
    Tyrod Tailor 6’1″
    Aaron Rodgers 6’2″

    They seem to think if you are only 6′ you will never see over the offensive line.

    Also, somehow Keenum looks smaller in pads, its like they almost look too big on him.

    * to be fair, NCAA career yards isn’t a great indicator of success, given that better talents leave early.

    Here is the top ten career yardage leaders:

    1. Case Keenum 19217
    2. Timmy CHange 17072
    3. Landry Jones 16646
    4. Graham Harrell 15793
    5. Ty Detmer 15031
    6. Kellen Moore 14667
    7. Colt Brenan 14193
    8. Luke Falk 14112 (still in college)
    9. Rakeen Cato 14079
    10. Baker Mayfield 13796 (stilla ctive in college)

  26. screamingyellowzonkers says:
    November 20, 2017 at 8:52 am
    Keenum MVP?

    Right now packer fans are having convulsions and foaming at the mouth because they think Rodgers is MVP while not playing.

    LOL
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    The success Rodgers had with the awful team McCarthy put together should show even the most stubborn hater how talented Rodgers is.

    The Pack stink like hot poop without him (because they lack talent on both sides of the ball), and with him they are a SB contender.

  27. Want to stop being “clueless” about QBs in the NFL? Start realizing that football IS A TEAM GAME and you have to stop crediting QBs for their full stats. Keenum is a mediocre QB who is playing his best possible football, which is “solid”, and his team is doing the rest. Likewise, Dak Prescott was not close to elite last year (while Tony Romo was underrated), young Tom Brady was at least as good as young Peyton Manning but the latter’s offense was loaded with weapons and the former’s was not, Kurt Warner being in the HOF is a joke, etc. I could go on and on. How it escapes people that QBs (and every other position, for that matter) are greatly affected by those around them boggles my mind. Until a QB shows consistent results over many levels of teammate quality around him, such as with consistently very good to excellent Drew Brees, we need to not jump the gun with guys. Or maybe try using your common sense and your eyes. Keenum threw one ball up for grabs yesterday and was lucky it wasn’t intercepted, and the bulk of “his” passing stats on the day came from one play that was a combination of bad defense and slick running by his WR.

  28. aj66shanghai says:
    November 20, 2017 at 8:52 am
    You’d think after such a long and shameful history, Vikings fans would know better than to do so much talking. It’s cool though, it makes it that much more hilarious when their team gets exposed.
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    This all the packer fans have.

    Stella has already stated that if the vikes don’t win a Super Bowl he will call it a choke job. Even though NOBODY predicted this winning for the Vikings. Packer fans grasping at straws.

    How’s the packer offseason going?

  29. harveyredman says:

    The Pack stink like hot poop without him (because they lack talent on both sides of the ball), and with him they are a SB contender.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    If you had said “playoff contender”, I’d agree with you, but in the 5+ games Rodgers played this year, the team (and Rodgers) didn’t look like a SB contender.

    They were embarrassed by the Falcons, needed overtime to beat the Bengals, and barely eked out a win over the Cowboys.

  30. Shocking that a guy who threw for 5000 yd a season and 40+ TD a season and was in the running for the Heisman in college can actually play football. Just Wow!

  31. I don’t think it took Case Keenum to show us there is a problem with evaluating QBs. But another thing this shows is that the best way to help a young QB is by having a strong defense. So many teams think you need to go out and draft a WR or RB or O-Lineman. Wrong. The best way to help a young QB is to allow him to play with no pressure. That comes from having a good defense. If your team falls behind, because you have a weak defense, there’s going to be pressure and blitzing, etc. When the score is close, the QB can run the plays they’ve been practicing all week. When you fall behind early, you pretty much scrap the game plan. Then the young QB starts picking up bad habits.

  32. Up here in Vikingland, we call it Better Football For Better People. Great front office, great coaching, great defense, great oline, great running game, great depth, above average QB play, but the pieces around Case make it a lot easier.

  33. Gee, if only there was a proven quarterback with Super Bowl experience out there on the market for Miami, Chicago, New York, the Colts, San Francisco, or other QB-needy teams to pick up…

  34. Keenum has looked great. Much like how Bradford looked good before him and Bridgewater before that. It’s almost like the coaching and system might be involved.

  35. harveyredman says:
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    The success Rodgers had with the awful team McCarthy put together should show even the most stubborn hater how talented Rodgers is.

    The Pack stink like hot poop without him (because they lack talent on both sides of the ball.
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    I’m not saying Rodgers isn’t good.
    He shouldn’t be MVP for standing on the sidelines.

  36. 81TinaKane says:
    November 20, 2017 at 9:04 am

    “BTW this has nothing to do with Zimmer who knows little about offense, it has everything to do with shurmer an a great offensive line”

    8 0 Rate This
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    There were plenty of articles written in the offseason about how Zimmer was picking the brains of coaches and ex-coaches and the suggestion that came up most often was not to cede any part of the team to assistants. He regrets giving so much authority to Turner and has said as much. His fingerprints are all over the offense. It’s still Shurmur’s game plan, but the quality control belongs to Zimmer. He uses his defensive acumen to weed out the weak plays. If he can scheme a way to stop it, it’s out of the playbook. Zimmer is in control of the whole show, there’s no doubt about that.

  37. 2 QBs that can easily be evaluated head to head are Blaine Gabbert and Colin Kapernick. After all Gabbert who is not a very good QB beat out Kapernick.

  38. aj66shanghai says:
    November 20, 2017 at 8:52 am
    You’d think after such a long and shameful history, Vikings fans would know better than to do so much talking. It’s cool though, it makes it that much more hilarious when their team gets exposed.

    right. too bad green bay hasnt been exposed

  39. It’s been said a few different times before me but I’ll say it again in slightly different verbiage. All QB’s in the league are great athletes that can compete at a high level. It’s coaching that makes them great. Most head coaches try to mold players to fit their scheme. That may work long term, but short term a coach needs to fit his scheme to the players he has available.

    Case in point, look at how bad Keenum looked against the Steelers, he looked LOST. Why, because the game planned all week for Bradford to be the starter and at the last minute they made the change. Game plan was all wrong and it showed. Once the coaches planned for keenum, look what he’s been able to do!

    IMO, it’s an ego thing. Most coaches aren’t wired to admit they need to change their way. The great ones do. Zimmer is showing that is willing to roll with the punches and it could lead to many good years of him in MN and put him in rare air if he can stretch another 5-10yrs out of this and even sniff a Super Bowl.

  40. aj66shanghai says:
    November 20, 2017 at 8:52 am

    You’d think after such a long and shameful history, Vikings fans would know better than to do so much talking. It’s cool though, it makes it that much more hilarious when their team gets exposed.

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    Posts like this just make me smile.

  41. Interesting change of heart about Keenum. This writer and others on this site have criticized the Vikings (and every other team in the NFL) for not signing Kaepernick. I guess the Vikings knew better.

  42. keenum is terrible and guaruntees the NFC is between the Whodats and Eagles. Saints have run roughshod over eagles over the past 10 years so, guess what, its gonna be black and gold to the superbowl, coming for that 2 dat

  43. I have always been amazed that out of a pool of 100+ division 1 colleges and countless division 2 schools that the NFL teams/scouts have found maybe 5-6 QB’s that can play at an elite level. Their scouting is seriously flawed.

  44. So much is fit. The right system that fits a QB’s skills. If he gets a huge contract by another team I wouldn’t be surprised if it didn’t work as well.

  45. harveyredman says:
    November 20, 2017 at 9:19 am
    screamingyellowzonkers says:
    November 20, 2017 at 8:52 am
    Keenum MVP?

    Right now packer fans are having convulsions and foaming at the mouth because they think Rodgers is MVP while not playing.

    LOL
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    The success Rodgers had with the awful team McCarthy put together should show even the most stubborn hater how talented Rodgers is.

    The Pack stink like hot poop without him (because they lack talent on both sides of the ball), and with him they are a SB contender.
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    You can go back and check old articles on this site. I think most Viking fans have said this for years, yet we are labeled as Trolls by packer faithful. It’s just now that packer fans are realizing that viking fans have been right all along.

    This viking fans sure hopes that Ted and Mike stay in charge of the putrid colors to the east for many years to come.

  46. “Shocking that a guy who threw for 5000 yd a season and 40+ TD a season and was in the running for the Heisman in college can actually play football. Just Wow!”

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    As a Redskins fan, I can assure you that being in the running for the Heisman means doesn’t mean you can play at the NFL level. We had a QB who actually won the Heisman just a few years ago. Wonder where he is at today?

  47. C keenum has always been good. He was good with the texans but the texans coach was an idiot. He was good with the rams. He even beat the seahawks in Seattle. But again, the coach was an idiot. Keenum is a top tier qb. Only young fans ,, older armchair qbs and dumb coaches think he can’t play or isn’t playing at a pro bowlers level. Too many idiots who don’t know anything about football these days. Keenum is playing like an mvp. Like it or not.thats the truth.

  48. @gaetz23….ok great zimmer asked some questions about offense of some people who know a thing or two about it, by zimmers own admission he knew hardly anything about offense which is why he turned it completely over to turner in 14,15. Zimmer was keen enough to know the offense was bad an brought another offensive mind on the team in 2016 in shurmer. While zimmer now knows a lil bit about offense, to say his finger prints is stretching it, the vikings are running shurmers WC offense

  49. It’s always been about how well all of the offense is able to play together not just the QB. You don’t have to look any further than Dak Prescott, remove the Pro Bowl LT and Pro Bowl RB, even though Morris ran for a good amount of yardage. Dak didn’t look like a QB that should be hero worshiped last night no matter what the shill Collingsworth was saying.

  50. Da Bears GM, Ryan Pace evaluated both Glennon and Trubisky. I wonder if he used the same criteria??? They are polar opposites.

  51. Case Keenum is a solid quarterback who was in bad situations earlier in his career and is succeeding in a good situation now. He’s the quarterback of a good team, so that automatically makes him an MVP candidate? There are other quarterbacks on good teams that have better numbers than Keenum, so I think they would be much more likely MVP candidates. The Vikings are so balanced on both sides of the ball that it’s hard to pick a team MVP, let alone a league MVP.

  52. Keenum holds the NCAA passage yardage record, which is no small accomplishment. He has arm talent, his problem up to this point was his inability to stay even keeled. The Vikings coaching staff has done a great job of keeping him level headed. Its 90% situation as all these QBs are supremely talented. But put them on a team with a great defense where he doesn’t have to press, with great WRs who can get open and win the 50-50 balls, a solid running game that allows the play action, and a coaching staff that runs a good scheme and comes up with great game plans and you get Case Keenum’s success. I have no doubt that Cutler (well, maybe not him), Glennon or Hoyer could have done equally well in Keenum’s position.

  53. As good as he’s played, I’d be very, very surprised if they signed him to start for this team next year. Someone said earlier, water eventually finds its level.

  54. harveyredman says:

    The success Rodgers had with the awful team McCarthy put together should show even the most stubborn hater how talented Rodgers is.

    The Pack stink like hot poop without him (because they lack talent on both sides of the ball), and with him they are a SB contender.
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    Very True! It also shows how over rated Ted Thompson is. Rodgers being there, hid a lot of the problems. The best thing that could happen to Rodgers is sitting out and McCarthy / Capers getting the ax. Thompson might be the real problem tho.

  55. The Vikings Shurmur offense, seems to be a plug and play QB system. As long as you don’t make stupid plays, you’ll succeed. So far Bradford and Keenum have had better than career stats in the system. A lot of teams will be looking at Shurmur if this keeps up.

  56. aj66shanghai says:
    November 20, 2017 at 8:52 am
    You’d think after such a long and shameful history, Vikings fans…
    )))))))))))))
    You must be new to the NFL and you don’t pay very good attention.
    The Vikings have the sixth-highest regular-season winning percentage in modern NFL history, ahead of teams like the Ravens, Packers, Patriots and Colts. Throw in 13 Hall of Famers and they fare pretty well for a franchise that hasn’t won a Super Bowl.

  57. Doug Marrone deserves more credit. He has the Jags winning and was the only one to get the Bills over .500 in over a decade! (Then quickly got out of dodge.)
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    People in Buffalo dont dislike Marrone because of his coaching. We very much hated his OC Nate Hackett who still appears to suck. Marrone was a pretty good coach though. The reason why Buffalo hates him and refuses to acknowledge him is because he let a disagreement with the GM get to him to the point where he quit on the team and city. He was building something that nobody in 20 years had built and then he nuked it because he didnt like a coworker. Thats why he gets no credit. Its the exact same reason why nobody in town remembers Mike Mularkey anymore.

  58. redandgoldhitman52 says:

    C keenum has always been good. He was good with the texans but the texans coach was an idiot. He was good with the rams. He even beat the seahawks in Seattle. But again, the coach was an idiot. Keenum is a top tier qb. Only young fans ,, older armchair qbs and dumb coaches think he can’t play or isn’t playing at a pro bowlers level. Too many idiots who don’t know anything about football these days. Keenum is playing like an mvp. Like it or not.thats the truth.

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    Agreed, and especially when you look at his collage numbers. His talent and determination got him into the NFL (as an undrafted free agent) and those same qualities are keeping him there.

    There was a great story in the Star Trib a couple weeks back about Keenum’s childhood / background, with quotes from his family. He was driven to throw the football at an extremely young age and never stopped. 6′-1″ 215 is not too small for the NFL, and Keenum is proving it. Coaches rave about Keenum’s preparation and teammates follow him because of his confidence. People doubt him and he proves them wrong. People love him and he keeps improving.

    It’s a great story and I’m thrilled he’s a Viking!

  59. ” Yesterday’s win over the Browns was four in a row for Jacksonville”
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    I don’t think a win over the Browns should count.

  60. Keenum isn’t even in the conversation for MVP. With Aaron Rodgers out due to an unnecessary hit, MVP is virtually guaranteed to go to Wentz, Brady, or Brees.

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