Eagles playing wait-and-see at kicker, may keep going for two

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The Eagles haven’t really ruled anything out at kicker this week, including not using one all that much. Well, actually, that’s not true. They have ruled out using a linebacker again.

With Jake Elliott in the concussion protocol, the Eagles are in wait-and-see mode for this week’s game against the Bears.

Via Reuben Frank of NBC Sports Philadelphia, Eagles coach Doug Pederson said he’s not sure what they’re going to do yet, since they don’t know if Elliott will be cleared by an independent neurologist by the weekend.

“I think moving forward, as we continue to evaluate this week, we’ll find out more in the next couple days with Jake, and I don’t want to put myself in a box, but we’ll keep all the options open,” Pederson said. “It kind of goes back to the same old thing. We still have a couple days here today and tomorrow to evaluate Jake and see where everybody’s at. There’s still a little while before we play Sunday.”

They have a few options, including activating Caleb Sturgis from injured reserve. But Pederson suggested they’ve settled on Elliott as their long-term answer at kicker, so using one of their return from IR spots on a temp might not be the way they want to go.

Pederson also didn’t rule out the possibility of continuing to go for two.

They were successful on 3-of-4 attempts Sunday against the Cowboys, and are 9-of-12 on conversions under Pederson.

“Yeah, I have,” Pederson said when asked if he’d consider staying that aggressive. “You always go into a game with a few (plays) in your pocket. You never expect that situation again like we had last night. But, yeah, you look at the numbers. If you’re around 94, 95 percent on the extra point from the 15-yard line, your conversion rate should be in that 47, 48, 49 percent on a two-point conversion. So we look at all of that.

“We keep a couple extra plus-five red zone plays in our pocket for that situation. It just worked out, I think 3-for-4 last night. It’s something we’ll look at going forward.”

They have ruled out linebacker Kamu Grungier-Hill, who kicked off Sunday night but didn’t get a chance at a field goal or an extra point after he missed the practice net during his emergency warmup.

19 responses to “Eagles playing wait-and-see at kicker, may keep going for two

  1. This may be reading to much into this because it worked but knowing they had 4 downs to get a first down helped the offense in the second half.

    It may just be that Dallas gave up before the 4th quarter but it was fun to watch the Eagles offense go for touchdown or bust every drive.

  2. The decision to keep going for two, should they go that route, is not out of arrogance. It has its advantages.

    With Kamu kicking off, they actually have 11 guys out there who can tackle instead of ten.

    when you go for two, every time it works, you’ve allowed yourself to miss the next one and continue to keep pace with where you’d be if you were kicking extra points. And if you make your first two, you’re up two misses. By the same token, if you miss your first one, you only need to make one to make up for two missed extra points.

    The Eagles are good at it. There’s no reason to stop.

    The only part that hurts is that they need a field goal kicker.

  3. Why not still use Kamu Grungier-Hill on kickoffs? He showed he can consistently reach the end zone (without practice or legit warm-up) AND he’s already on the coverage team, so would be a better tackler than having a kicker out there. Wonder if other teams will look at doing this in the future – it’s an interesting idea.

  4. This could be a new trend. Elliot is a small kicker. To the point if he has no business tackling anyone. 11 football players on kickoff coverage would be a good thing.

  5. Cowboys had basically a linebacker as a kicker before Dan Bailey. His name was David Beuhler at 6’2, 219 lbs. The thought was, they effectively have an extra man in kick coverage. Problem was, he wasn’t that accurate, with a 75% career FG avg. Also, I didn’t recognize any difference in return efficacy. He registered just 3 assisted tackles in 36 games.

  6. I was saying Sunday night that this isn’t necessarily the worst option. Where it hurts is if you need a field goal at the end of a game and don’t have time/ability to get a TD. Otherwise, you theoretically stay even or ahead on points.

  7. IF it was just an issue of extra points, yes you could get away with going for 2. But the real issues is FG’s …the Eagles will sign someone by Wed just to be safe…and that kicker should be Andrew Franks or Jason Myers. Conner Barth is in a funk so he’s a NO go. Franks and Myers have been practicing for 4-6 weeks and have their confidence back.

  8. redlikethepig says:

    All teams get so arrogant when they win.
    _________

    I love that you’re back and your team is 4-6. Great effort late in the game on Sunday. Your team continues to be irrelevant since 92′

    EAGLES 9-1 Bumskins 4-6

  9. Sam Ficken was good this preseason filling in for Santos with the Chiefs. Made all his field goals. With all the turnover with kickers I’m surprised he hasn’t been brought in. If they need a guy for one week he’d be worthwhile.

  10. The IR designation thing makes no sense. The Eagles have no one on are ir who can come back other then Sturgis and theres less then 8 weeks left. So if someone gets hurt this week the earliest he could comeback is the superbowl. The odds of the Eagles getting two guys hurt bad enough that they cant just keep him on the roster for a week or two, but not bad enough to miss the whole year while also making the superbowl and not being able to bring both back bc they used 1 slot on Sturgis is beyond slim. So there is really no reason not to bring sturgis back for a week. Which is what they will do if Elliott cant go.

  11. nothingbuttthetruth says:

    “Why not still use Kamu Grungier-Hill on kickoffs? He showed he can consistently reach the end zone (without practice or legit warm-up) AND he’s already on the coverage team, so would be a better tackler than having a kicker out there. Wonder if other teams will look at doing this in the future – it’s an interesting idea.”

    I remember watching a college team do this and wonder why a NFL team wouldn’t try it? The player wasn’t the regular kicker, just a LB or DB who could kick the ball deep and take off running down the field to make the tackle. Wouldn’t be any more of a waste of roster space than any other reserve LB/DB/RB/WR who primarily plays ST and rarely sees the field otherwise…

  12. redlikethepig says:

    All teams get so arrogant when they win.
    ===========================================

    When a team has zero Lombardi’s they have no standing to be arrogant.

  13. redlikethepig says:

    When a team has zero Lombardi’s they have no standing to be arrogant.

    It must be tough knowing that with Danny boy at the helm, the skins will never sniff a SB again in your lifetime, if you were even born yet the last time they won one.

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