Jerry Jones apparently wants to disband the Compensation Committee

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The NFL’s Compensation Committee has told Cowboys owner Jerry Jones (once again) to abandon his effort to delay or derail the contract extension for Commissioner Roger Goodell. Jones clearly isn’t planning to do that.

In his latest appearance on 105.3 The Fan in Dallas, Jones made it clear that he’s not backing down, and he remains confident that his efforts will be successful.

“I think that ultimately we will influence what I want to influence,” Jones said.

So what does he hope to influence? Apparently, he’s hoping to influence the process of holding the Commissioner accountable, by expanding the pool of owners who have power over his pay from six to 32.

“[T]he bottom line is he’s very powerful and you want to influence the Commissioner,” Jones said. “There’s a big debate as to one of the biggest things a Commissioner does is resolve disputes. He resolves them between everybody. So there’s an argument that he should be autonomous from being accountable. That’s legitimate. . . . Well, the Commissioner covers the whole league, the business aspect of it, the basically discipline aspect of it, the rules, the officials. And, so, no one — no one — would like it if you had three or four owners that were paying the officials. No one would like that because it should be all the owners that pay the officials. But yet you want them to be independent. Well, all owners should be holding the Commissioner accountable in my view. That’s the gist of this thing.”

In other words, Jones doesn’t want Goodell to feel beholden to only a few owners. Goodell should be, in Jones’ opinion, beholden to all of them.

That’s not how it will ever work, with or without a Compensation Committee. In any group of 32 that moves in unison from time to time, some will have more influence than others. And the Commissioner will know which owners have that influence, and the Commissioner will (if smart) focus on keeping the influential owners happy.

The presence of a Compensation Committee simply makes it easier to spot the owners who hold the knife that butters the Commissioner’s bread. Taking away the Compensation Committee, however, won’t take away the dynamic of some owners having the ability to rally support for anything and everything relating to the Commissioner.

If that’s what Jones is hoping to do, it’s the first time he has clearly articulated it that way. Whether it’s a tactic for persuading undecided owners to see things his way or the first phase of an effort to stake our territory where he eventually may be able to declare victory remains to be seen.

Regardless, the issue isn’t over. And it apparently won’t be over, even after the Commissioner’s extension has been finalized. In many respects, the execution of the Commissioner’s contract may be not the end of the dispute but only the beginning.

84 responses to “Jerry Jones apparently wants to disband the Compensation Committee

  1. Nice!

    You have our full support (even though you are a phony for standing by Goodell’s cheating in previous years).

    – Real, diehard fans who want their league back

  2. Jerry voted along with every other owner to give the compensation committee full authority to negotiate and execute a new agreement with Goodell. He should have thought about his “reservations” before he lost ANOTHER domestic abuser to a suspension.

    No sympathy, Jerry. Suck it up.

  3. Why are they extending him anyway? The NFL has never looked worse than under his rule. Wouldn’t you assume Robert Kraft is one of the people on the committee? And that he would be opposed to a Goodell extension? Hell I’d assume Jerruh was on the committee too.

  4. Wait, all the 32 (including Jerrah) voted to give the committee that power. After Jerrah got pissy over Zeke, the committee even gave Jerrah a seat at their table. He only stomped off to do the false jet-for-life propaganda and threaten legals when he realized he wasn’t getting it all HIS way.

    Btw, Jerrah, the NFL waited forlornly for Zeke to co-operate: the phone logs and texts he provided when he “gave them everything” (as you falsely claimed) were greatly redacted and devoid of any actual communications or their content with his ex-GF.

  5. And Jerry is absolutely right. He is trying to ensure Goodell isn’t beholden to a few. Much like the report of Mara and Blank offering him a real nice extension if he made the suspension stick for Zeke.

  6. Jerry Jones just wants power… he thought he had it when he thought he controlled Goodell after a decade of working together… and Jones pushed all the owners to get Goodell his new contract in a speech to them.

    Once Goodell showed he’s not controlled just by Jones, then Jones flipped out wanting Goodell fired…

    Jones is concerned about
    his own power first
    his pocket book second
    and the NFL third.

    Goodell should have been fired and it’s because Jones non-stop promoting Goodell (before the Elliott suspension) as the reason he wasn’t. Jones screwed the NFL and their fans by promoting Goodell for his personal reasons.

  7. TL;DR translation of Jerrah’s quote: I’m fine with Rog’s “accountability” when his judge/jury/executioner approach doesn’t affect my team but as soon as it does, I’m not.

  8. I’m all for a man standing up and fighting for what he believes in, so do what you feel is right Jerry.

    .. but there is a certain “I have a grenade in my hand, don’t think I won’t pull the pin!” element to all of this.

  9. What I don’t understand is how in the past this website repeatedly criticized the Commissioner’s mishandling of player discipline and now wants us to be upset with Jerry Jones criticism of Goddell’s handling of…wait for it….player discipline.

  10. One of the greatest mysteries in all my years on this Earth is the source of Goodell’s eternal job security. He is like an admiral who grounded five consecutive aircraft carriers, was booed off by the crews, and then walked into his court martial and demanded a huge raise and his own jet. Utterly without explanation, like we really do live in a computer simulated reality or something.

  11. Brobokil says:
    November 21, 2017 at 1:36 pm
    Why are they extending him anyway? The NFL has never looked worse than under his rule. Wouldn’t you assume Robert Kraft is one of the people on the committee? And that he would be opposed to a Goodell extension? Hell I’d assume Jerruh was on the committee too.

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    Million dollar question, isn’t it? We have been told 100 million times that the owners tell Goodell what to do, so why wouldn’t you tell him what to do for his salary?

    Where is he going to go? What is the mystery leverage he thinks he has and why does he think he has it?

  12. “I think that ultimately we will influence what I want to influence”

    Very insightful look into his thinking the way ‘we’ and ‘I’ are interchangeable to Jones.

    The members of the Compensation Committee do not hold the knife that butters the Commissioner’s bread they are simply the knife, in other words the committee is the means it does not represent an end. It is preposterous to think 32 people are going to negotiate a contract. You can’t make an argument for Goodell being concerned with biting the hands that feed him when you consider how he has handled the teams of both the previous and current committee members. In point of fact it would be easier to make an argument that being one of the people that decides his compensation level is more likely to get your team targeted. Benson, Ross and Kraft were on the last incarnation of the committee and their teams were subsequently handled pretty roughly. Hunt and Kraft are on the current committee and both have been the recipients of over the top discipline in the past couple of years. If anything Goodell likes to show his ‘independence’ by nibbling on the hands that have fed him and that includes Jones who while not a committee member has contributed more heavily to the bottom line than Blank could ever dream of.

  13. weepingjebus says:
    November 21, 2017 at 1:45 pm
    One of the greatest mysteries in all my years on this Earth is the source of Goodell’s eternal job security. He is like an admiral who grounded five consecutive aircraft carriers, was booed off by the crews, and then walked into his court martial and demanded a huge raise and his own jet. Utterly without explanation, like we really do live in a computer simulated reality or something.

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    I think it’s fascinating the media won’t acknowledge this, other than saying “the owners want a yes man”, but that very fact is WHY ratings have tumbled.

    He’s been caught, along with cheating owners, the latter ALWAYS getting what they want, cheating the fans by trying to manipulate the league and its outcome$ for greedy purposes.

    As Pats fans, it’s painful to admit this is Kraft’s choosing, but it shouldn’t be, and it’s disturbing to think they feel they need to have an institutionalized cheating angle in order to grow the league overseas for the almighty dollar.

    Our team has been strung up TWICE for faux scandals Kraft knew to be lies, because they actually believe parity is the only selling point to investors overseas, which it technically would be.

  14. Does Jones go on the radio every day?

    Someone needs to reign this blowhard in, he’s probably more self-absorbed than Trump.

    Well, no one else can be as self-absorbed as Trump, but Jones is close.

  15. If one of your players or coaches hasn’t done something stupid and gotten themselves in trouble … then you don’t have a gripe with Goodell. If they have then you put on your fan googles … justify it in some crazy way … then convince yourself you’re the real victim … and complain.

  16. truesoi says:
    November 21, 2017 at 1:44 pm
    What I don’t understand is how in the past this website repeatedly criticized the Commissioner’s mishandling of player discipline and now wants us to be upset with Jerry Jones criticism of Goddell’s handling of…wait for it….player discipline.

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    Because Elliott was framed as a result of Goodell doing the wrong with Rice for selfish purposes (his guest ticket to play golf with Bisciotti at Augusta National AND to help the Ravens try to continue to challenge the Pats for parity purposes).

    One more AFC team not able to challenge the Pats, is bad for business. Didn’t ya know?

  17. JJ was just fine on the status quo of the Commissioner until his guy got suspended. His motivation for this is obvious and every other owner should tell him where to go in regards to his personal vendetta. This league has enough problems without an individual owner throwing a tantrum and threatening to sue the league because he was finally the focus of league discipline. Suck it up Jerry and follow the advice you gave Robert Kraft to take the medicine when Brady was suspended.

  18. What Jerry Jones actually wants is to get his name in the paper every day, even if it’s hurting the league. There are so many positive things going on right now as the playoff race is heating up, but everything Jerry says is negative. People are thrilled about Carson Wentz and Jared Goff. Tom Brady and Drew Brees have big followings. These guys are leading their teams into the playoffs, and Jerry’s Cowboys are laying an egg. Jerry needs to go, not only for the good of the league, but for the good of the Cowboys too.

  19. Michael E says:
    November 21, 2017 at 1:40 pm
    Jerry will win. Goodell will never get a new contract. The PR hit would be too big.

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    Absolutely true, and if you think the story is true about delaying his contract situation due a fear of bad PR, why would the delay change when the bad PR would occur?

    Why would it be good to take the hit now or later?

    Here’s the answer: the lawyers and those on Park Ave in NY, actually think we’ll forget about all of this and it will die down, but educated fans know it won’t.

    This behavior by cheating owners will never go away as long as this toxic relationship for the future of the league.

  20. One of the greatest mysteries in all my years on this Earth is the source of Goodell’s eternal job security. He is like an admiral who grounded five consecutive aircraft carriers, was booed off by the crews, and then walked into his court martial and demanded a huge raise and his own jet. Utterly without explanation, like we really do live in a computer simulated reality or something.

    It’s not a mystery at all if you are looking at it with common sense as opposed to your personal feelings. The league has seen historic gains financially and in viewership under Goodell. Many fans are focused on Bounty gate and Deflate gate in their hatred of Goodell, but most of the owners don’t care about that. It’s about the bottom line and under Goodell they have had tremendous success. Even with the declining ratings the NFL is still far and away the most popular Sport and TV show there is.

  21. Jurruh has gone so far off the reservation, it’s just getting sad. He clearly has lost most of the other owners respect with his recent antics and can’t stop running his mouth. If this nonsense continues, don’t be surprised if the other owners force him to step down and have Stephen Jones take over.

  22. I have never seen JJ going totally apocalyptic on anything! It is obvious, he feels he was lied to and betrayed! But, we all know ole Rog would not lie, don’t we, esp. Pats’ fans??
    Oh, Lynch made national news again, kneeling for the National Anthem & standing for the Mexican anthem. More negative PR for the NFL 🙂 Try looking past your hate for JJ, and you may see that what he is suggesting, IS the best for the NFL, unless you want it to continue going down like the Titanic! Goodell is at best, incompetent….

  23. Hahaha what an idiot if that’s true. You really want the guys ruining the bengals, colts and browns to have equal say and power in all league matters!?!?!?

  24. Why can’t Jerry just fade into the back ground for the year? Pack it in for this season and suck it up. Stop drafting guys who attract trouble like a magnet and create problems and distractions for your team. Remember when he had to be talked out of drafting Manziel? He wouldn’t be doing this whole Goodell thing if the team was playoff-bound.

  25. when brady got suspended over deflategate. jerry jones wanted brady suspended and their was no evidence that showed brady knew anything about it or even if it happened at all. but when it happened to ezekiel elliott. jerry gets mad and throws a fit about it. plus the nflpa and the nfl owners gave roger goodell unlimited power in 2011. which he can suspend any player that he thinks is more probable than not in any case. why they gave him him that kind of power is idiotic. jerry is fighting a losing battle right now after all 32 owners gave the competition committee the power to give goodell permission a contract extension in may

  26. >>>What I don’t understand is how in the past this website repeatedly criticized the Commissioner’s mishandling of player discipline and now wants us to be upset with Jerry Jones criticism of Goddell’s handling of…wait for it….player discipline.<<<

    Well think of it. Why are there no other owners of the 32 coming out as publicly as Jones on this? Why is this such a hot button issue for Jones now when it wasn't 6 months ago? Why does this seem to be right now him him him?

    I'm as all in on this issue of canning the Commissioner as anybody but does anyone really believe that we wouldn't even be hearing from Jones if not for the Elliot case? He has no credibility as far as I'm concerned. He could have spoken up last May on his same concerns and did not. So what changed since then?

    If the 32 owners or a large group of them decided to not even renew the Commissioner's contract back in May then that was the time to do so. But they voted 32-0 (including Jones)to go ahead on a new contract.

    Elliott lost his court battle as far as his suspension and the Commissioner's right of power to hand it out. And that's what this is all about as far as Jones is concerned. That's why we're hearing from him now and not last spring as well as throughout the summer for that matter. The timing is not a coincidence.

  27. wcman said:”
    It’s not a mystery at all if you are looking at it with common sense as opposed to your personal feelings. The league has seen historic gains financially and in viewership under Goodell. Many fans are focused on Bounty gate and Deflate gate in their hatred of Goodell, but most of the owners don’t care about that. It’s about the bottom line and under Goodell they have had tremendous success. Even with the declining ratings the NFL is still far and away the most popular Sport and TV show there is.”

    And how much of that success has to do with Goodell? Couldn’t an argument be made that he just got lucky enough to be in charge when the internet/fantasy football was all of the rage?

    If you are going to give him credit for all of the successes, shouldn’t you also be giving him credit for all of the failures as well?

    When more stories seem to be written about what is going on off the field, more so than what is going on the field, then the league has a problem.

  28. wib22 says:
    November 21, 2017 at 1:48 pm
    Bob Kraft wants him to shut up and take his medicine.

    ***

    Kraft sold out his QB

    I’ll translate with my wib to english dictionary,

    Kraft=class
    Jones= just remove the cl

  29. Jerry keeps taking these shots at Mara’s puppet boy, Goodell.

    He needs to be replaced or at least mara’s control over him needs to be diminished. Dispanding the compensation committee is the first step to loosening Mara’s grip.

    Will Goodell spill the beans on the rampant cheating ordered by Mara or will he keep silent? That’s the big question.

  30. Smart approach by Jones. If all owners particpate in ratifying the CBA with the NFLPA, then all owners should participate in approving the extension of Goodell. Favor and politics should be removed from the Goodell extension process, or the relationship with the NFLPA will never improve. The league can survive without Goodell, but can the league can survive without players?

  31. Based on revenue increases Goodell does deserve a raise but one has to question if it was his doing or that football is so popular it would’ve sold itself under any other commissioner.

  32. I’ll translate with my wib to english dictionary,

    Kraft=class
    Jones= just remove the cl

    ***

    Then why did he not fight harder for brady then?

  33. Look, I think we can all agree that Goodell has been a pretty crappy commissioner.

    However, we can also all agrre that this is Jerrah’s personal vendetta against Goodell in regards to the (mis)handling of the Ezekiel Elliott situation. Jones is going to do everything he can to oust Goodell. Whther that comes to fruition remains to be seen, but in the meantime, Jerrah is going to make the commish’s ouster his personal mission in life.

    Give it a rest, old man. Robert Kraft also had plenty of reasons for wanting Goodell out but he got past it. Maybe Jerrah could learn something there.

  34. wcman says:
    November 21, 2017 at 2:01 pm

    It’s not a mystery at all if you are looking at it with common sense as opposed to your personal feelings. The league has seen historic gains financially and in viewership under Goodell.
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    In spite of Goodell. Goodell wasn’t even competent enough to be able to negotiate the last television contract. He’s nothing but a detriment to the league.

  35. wib22 says:
    November 21, 2017 at 3:02 pm
    I’ll translate with my wib to english dictionary,

    Kraft=class
    Jones= just remove the cl

    ***

    Then why did he not fight harder for brady then?

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    Can’t believe I agree with Chippy, but on this one I do. Kraft has lost a lot of respect. No two ways about it, if he approves this contract he is complicit in Deflategate.

  36. wib22 says:
    November 21, 2017 at 3:02 pm
    I’ll translate with my wib to english dictionary,

    Kraft=class
    Jones= just remove the cl

    ***

    Then why did he not fight harder for brady then?

    I thought it would be self explanatory but have you never been involved with someone duplicitous?

    At the end of the day there’s no explanation of anything NE that would satisfy you. You start at the end and work your way back, just like the NFL in Framegate, with one thought above all, they must be cheating. Must have been the admission by the NFL that they had no evidence that’s crossing you up.

  37. #Snowflake_In_Texas

    Kraft thought that he understood the big picture, do not destroy the league that is making everyone rich, even if you are getting slightly screwed in the short term. In the end, the success of the league is more important than a particular team in a particular season.

    That said, he has acknowledged that if he had known how royally screwed he was going to get after dropping his protest, he would have taken a different approach.

    Jones only cares about Jones, but then, he has seen how the league screwed the Patriots and has perhaps learned from the situation.

    Two Lombardi’s later, I am unsympathetic to the teams who said “take your medicine” about the “conspiracy” in which balls inflated to the lower end of the legal limit lost a tiny amount of air after being gronk-spiked on a cold day.

  38. Like or hate him, Jerry the GM should be focused on his football team rather than the the commissioner and other owners. #whyownersfailasgeneralmanagers

  39. And how much of that success has to do with Goodell? Couldn’t an argument be made that he just got lucky enough to be in charge when the internet/fantasy football was all of the rage?
    If you are going to give him credit for all of the successes, shouldn’t you also be giving him credit for all of the failures as well?
    When more stories seem to be written about what is going on off the field, more so than what is going on the field, then the league has a problem.

    You can make an argument about anything including the fact this hatred of Goodell from fans is misguided if you wanted too, but the bottom line with owners is financial success and they have had unprecedented success with Goodell as Commissioner. Another Commissioner may have had the same success who knows, but it’s irrelevant in this discussion because the success came with this Commissioner and it’s this Commissioner who is the basis for the discussion.

    The stories about what is happening off the field are a result of the world we live in now. With Social Media everything gets a glaring spotlight. That was going to happen regardless of who is in charge. There have always been issues off the field. The difference is now every one of them gets analyzed to death by every person who chooses to voice an opinion on Twitter.

  40. Unless I’m mistaken the owners voted unanimously to give the compensation committee power to negotiate with Godell (spelling intentional). Now that Roger pissed off Jerruh, Skeletor wants a re-do. It doesn’t work that way Jerry.

  41. In spite of Goodell. Goodell wasn’t even competent enough to be able to negotiate the last television contract. He’s nothing but a detriment to the league.

    That is simply not true. Fans have focused an extreme amount of hate on Goodell for Bounty gate and Deflate gate, while ignoring the fact he has been the steward of an unprecedented leap in popularity and revenue for the league. I get why Saints and Patriot fans don’t like the guy even though it was not just Goodell involved with those punishments, but for the owners, Goodell has been a gold mine which is why his compensation is likely going to continue to rise. His base salary is about 4 mill. The rest comes from the percentage of league revenue so it’s almost completely based on the financial success they’ve had with him in charge.

    I’m not Goodell’s brother or a family member, I’m just pointing out why the owners don’t share some fans sentiment towards him. For the fans it’s personal because he was involved in the suspension of a player or players/Coach they love and admire. For the league it’s about performance and increasing revenue.

  42. WC Goodell is the first Commissioner to have a conduct policy. Prior commissioners allowed the club’s to either bury it or wait for the trial results.

  43. Look,
    Just because Jerry is trying to overthrow Goodell because of the Zeke suspension (and he is, I’m a diehard Cowboys fan and can readily admit what’s going on here) doesn’t mean his argument isn’t legitimate. Goodell has overseen unprecedented growth and this is why the owners see merit in keeping him around. But as fans we should want no part of him anymore. He’s done nothing but kill the game for fans. On-the-field (what the heck is a catch), off-the-field (Josh Brown, Ray Rice, Zeke) and even in between (PSLs, anyone)

    It’s time for him to go, and if Jerry is going to lead the charge than you should back him up, regardless of who you pull for.

  44. Jones is just a big ‘Ol hypocrite who thinks everyone is too stupid to see through his BS. Dude is so used to having yes men and lackeys around, he is deluded enough to think everyone listens to and believes what he says is the truth.

  45. “Taking away the Compensation Committee, however, won’t take away the dynamic of some owners having the ability to rally support for anything and everything relating to the Commissioner.”

    Blind voting, having a rotating chair, independent of the commissioner, to speak on behalf of all the owners, and baring private meetings/conversations with the commissioner, would go a long way to diminish the influence of individual owners with respect to the commissioner. There would still be ample room for speaking out individually but only in a public way.

  46. Regardless whether jones is an unlikeable, vindictive, underhanded, self interested, jerk…and regarless whether his motives are something other than ‘the leagues best interests’…and regardless whether I like him personally (I dont) and whether Im pretty sick if hearing from him (I am)…I still have to admit he is raising some really good business points and really this Goodell contract does need to back up a step and be rethought. It looks like a terrible idea to give that to Goodell.

    I also know that Goodell has a history where whenever he is in contention with someone there are all kinds of deragatory ‘reports’ that suddenly appear ftom various unknown or unnamed sources. And so suddenly seeing a flurry if stuff about Jones makes me wonder if Roger isnt just up to his same old dirty tricks and we should all be very careful about believing what we read.

    I also note that most arguments on Goodells side are based on disparaging Jones himself rather than speaking to why his arguments shouldnt be considered valid.

  47. I am not a big jonathan kraft fan, family promotions in a game based on a meritocracy seem especially out of place. But Jonathan trolled Jones perfectly when he called him out for his take your medicine hypocrisy.

  48. Remember when Goodell came in on his high horse, saying he wanted to clean up the league, then proceeded to dirty it up to unprecedented levels?

  49. wcman says:
    November 21, 2017 at 4:01 pm

    That is simply not true.
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    Of course it is.

    Goodell has neither performed, or increased revenue.

  50. wcman says:
    November 21, 2017 at 4:01 pm

    Fans have focused an extreme amount of hate on Goodell for Bounty gate and Deflate gate, while ignoring the fact he has been the steward of an unprecedented leap in popularity and revenue for the league.
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    Fans hate Goodell because he is a duplicitous liar. The most frustrating part is that the owners don’t seem to care.

  51. What few people here seem to understand is that the NFL, like any organization, has rules of procedure, such as specified majority (whether 51% or greater) voting approval that binds all owners, and that people who lose a vote are still obligated to follow the majority decision. Without such rules, any organization devolves into chaos. Jerry bought his team knowing this (and does anyone doubt he would aggressively enforce those rules if he liked the outcome?) At least 30 of the owners apparently empowered Committee, and as long as the necessary majority of League owners is content to let the Committee function as per their mandate, they have the power to operate without everything being second guessed.

    An incredibly basic corporate governance principle that, too often, a sole or majority-owner businessman (i.e., Jones controlling the Cowboys), who is used to having total control, seems to have a hard time grasping (much like our president, but I digress).

  52. mmack66,

    The facts don’t support you. The league has had unprecedented success under Goodell.

    WC Goodell is the first Commissioner to have a conduct policy. Prior commissioners allowed the club’s to either bury it or wait for the trial results.

    Why do you think he had to come up with a conduct policy? The league was taking a ton of heat for all the things that were happening off the field due to player behavior. This isn’t something he just made up on a whim. It was response to an ongoing problem of player infractions off the field and it was supported 100% by the owners.

  53. But as fans we should want no part of him anymore. He’s done nothing but kill the game for fans. On-the-field (what the heck is a catch), off-the-field (Josh Brown, Ray Rice, Zeke) and even in between (PSLs, anyone)

    This is a great example of how misguided the hate for Goodell is. If you hate that he suspended Tom Brady after being advised to do so by the investigation, that’s your prerogative, but blaming him for the change in rules, player behavior and PSL’s is ludicrous. He doesn’t make up the rules for a catch – that would be the competition committee. He actually ruled lightly on Ray Rice because the video hadn’t been released then had to change the suspension due to public pressure. Same thing with Josh Brown. In the Zeke situation, an advisory panel decided a suspension was warranted. It wasn’t Goodell making a unilateral decision. PSL’s are an owner created revenue stream that has nothing to do with the Commissioner.

    I know it seems like I’m a Goodell apologist right now, but I’m simply giving the other side to a subject that is being severely misrepresented right now. Goodell is getting blamed for anything wrong with the game and it’s ridiculous. That’s a big reason why the owners likely want to keep extending him. He takes all the blame for their BS.

  54. wcman says:
    November 21, 2017 at 5:11 pm

    mmack66,

    The facts don’t support you. The league has had unprecedented success under Goodell.

    WC Goodell is the first Commissioner to have a conduct policy. Prior commissioners allowed the club’s to either bury it or wait for the trial results.

    Why do you think he had to come up with a conduct policy? The league was taking a ton of heat for all the things that were happening off the field due to player behavior. This isn’t something he just made up on a whim. It was response to an ongoing problem of player infractions off the field and it was supported 100% by the owners.
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    Sure the league has grown, but it would have grown no matter who the commissioner is.

    Goodell didn’t come up with the Personal Conduct Policy. The NFL has had one since 1997.

    Regardless of that, it’s pretty clear that Goodell has ignored it and/or abused it whenever it suited him. Ray Rice was a complete failure of the PCP. Goodell was perfectly content with letting the Ravens sweep it all under the rug, until the public saw what happened.

    Josh Brown is another failure to follow the PCP. Right after Mara, McAdoo, and Goodell claimed there was no tolerance for domestic violence, the Giants re-signed Brown, a known and confessed domestic abuser. Mara and Goodell were perfectly content with letting that get swept under the rug, and Goodell even disregarded his mandated 6-game suspension, and gave Brown a lame 1-game suspension.

    Then you have the Brady and Elliott frauds.

    Goodell is incompetent, and lacks integrity, and as such, is wholly unsuited to hold the office of NFL commissioner.

  55. How about maybe waiting to see how the season ticket drop offs, Sponsorship Reductions, TV contract reductions, go before giving the head enabler of the anti-America protests a new deal.

  56. wcman says:
    November 21, 2017 at 5:20 pm

    This is a great example of how misguided the hate for Goodell is. If you hate that he suspended Tom Brady after being advised to do so by the investigation, that’s your prerogative, but blaming him for the change in rules, player behavior and PSL’s is ludicrous. He doesn’t make up the rules for a catch – that would be the competition committee. He actually ruled lightly on Ray Rice because the video hadn’t been released then had to change the suspension due to public pressure. Same thing with Josh Brown. In the Zeke situation, an advisory panel decided a suspension was warranted. It wasn’t Goodell making a unilateral decision. PSL’s are an owner created revenue stream that has nothing to do with the Commissioner.

    I know it seems like I’m a Goodell apologist right now, but I’m simply giving the other side to a subject that is being severely misrepresented right now. Goodell is getting blamed for anything wrong with the game and it’s ridiculous. That’s a big reason why the owners likely want to keep extending him. He takes all the blame for their BS.
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    Goodell owns the player discipline debacle. All by himself.

    There’s nothing confusing about lack of leadership. It extends to the failure to recognize that penalties can no longer be legislated consistently. It extends to messing up the relocation of teams (and stealing funds to be able to accomplish those failures). It extends to realizing that TV viewership is over saturated.

    You’re right though. He doesn’t control what is a catch or a penalty. He controls the ability to make sure either aren’t a problem to make the product better.

  57. wcman says:
    November 21, 2017 at 5:11 pm

    Why do you think he had to come up with a conduct policy? The league was taking a ton of heat for all the things that were happening off the field due to player behavior. This isn’t something he just made up on a whim. It was response to an ongoing problem of player infractions off the field and it was supported 100% by the owners.
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    First, he didn’t come up with a conduct policy. All he did was place the conduct policy above the law of the land. Specifically to appease public relations.

  58. limakey says:
    November 21, 2017 at 4:04 pm
    WC Goodell is the first Commissioner to have a conduct policy. Prior commissioners allowed the club’s to either bury it or wait for the trial results.
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    Sounds like Goodell could learn a few things from prior commissioners.

  59. wcman says:
    November 21, 2017 at 3:54 pm

    The stories about what is happening off the field are a result of the world we live in now. With Social Media everything gets a glaring spotlight. That was going to happen regardless of who is in charge. There have always been issues off the field. The difference is now every one of them gets analyzed to death by every person who chooses to voice an opinion on Twitter.
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    The stories get magnified because that is exactly what the NFL wants to happen. It’s silly to think off the field issues aren’t going to happen. It’s how you handle them after the fact. Which is exactly why Goodell deserves all the criticism.

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