Jay Gruden: Giants’ problem is they lost the NFL’s best receiver, Odell Beckham

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Washington coach Jay Gruden is preparing to face a 2-8 Giants team on Thanksgiving, and he thinks he knows why that Giants team is having such a disappointing season: Odell Beckham.

Specifically, Gruden says Beckham is the best receiver in football, and when he went down, the Giants were bound to have a rough go of it.

Asked to name the difference between the Giants this year and last year, Gruden answered, “Odell Beckham.”

“Without Odell Beckham, it’s a huge difference. He’s the best receiver in the league,” Gruden said, via Art Stapleton of USA Today.

Losing Beckham certainly hurts, but there’s a huge flaw in Gruden’s line of thinking: Beckham played in four games this season, and the Giants were 0-4 in those games. There must be more to the Giants losing than just Beckham’s injury, because the Giants were losing before Beckham’s injury.

50 responses to “Jay Gruden: Giants’ problem is they lost the NFL’s best receiver, Odell Beckham

  1. That is not the Giants’ problem. And that is why Jay Gruden isn’t much of a coach. They lost their whole receiving corps, and him being there without it wouldn’t help. The defense is sorely underperforming, and he doesn’t play defense. Eli has regressed with age, and he doesn’t play QB.

    Jay Gruden is not a smart man.

  2. If you lose one player and your team instantly goes from playoff contender to one of the worst teams in the league… You have much, much bigger problems than just that one player being injured.

  3. What’s he supposed to say? That looks like Gruden just being kind, not actually trying to analyze the situation.

  4. The giants when from middle of the road with few people expecting a shot at the playoffs to bottom third in the league because odell went down. They were always going to lose games so the 0-4 record with him means nothing. The eye test clearly shows they are a worse team without him.

  5. Anyone get the feeling someone is thinking about getting back into coaching? Maybe for a team in a big media market that’s currently playing very poorly?

  6. I don’t think either of the Gruden’s can have a conversation without saying someone’s the best in the league at something. Jon does it every broadcast. Maybe it’s just in their DNA. I have no problem with it. I’d rather listen to someone being positive, than someone who’s always ripping guys. Just let it go in one ear and out the other. No need to argue with them. They don’t really believe it themselves. It’s just Gruden being Gruden.

  7. tjacks7 says:
    November 22, 2017 at 9:03 am
    If you lose one player and your team instantly goes from playoff contender to one of the worst teams in the league… You have much, much bigger problems than just that one player being injured.
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    Can’t believe I’m agreeing with a vike’s fan, but he is right. Being a Pack fan I know exactly what he’s saying.

  8. Jay Gruden is not a smart man.
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    Gruden knows OBJ isn’t the sole reason the Giants suck this year. You think, maybe he just doesn’t want to trash-talk another team and a fellow head coach?

  9. Yeah, reminds me of last year when Patriots lost the league’s top TE for the season…

    And look at this year, when the Pats lost their top receiver AND the captain of their Defense for the season. AND lost their top D-lineman (Ninkovich) permanently in July AND traded away the league’s top scoring RB. Team can’t win a game without them. Painfully sad to watch.

  10. Please don’t bash Gruden just because he took the high road.

    He could have said it’s because the coach lost the respect of his team, the quarterback is too old, there’s no talent at running back, the defense is a bunch of mercenaries all too ready to quit at the first hint of difficulty, JPP is old, DRC and Janoris Jenkins are troublemakers, and firing Coughlin was such a bad mistake that Mara couldn’t even get it fixed by his cronies in the league office.

    Instead he just took the high road and complimented a player. What’s wrong with that?

  11. I’m sorry, but one guy does not make an entire team. The Giant’s problems extend way beyond losing Beckham for the year. Please don’t swell Beckham’s already inflated ego any more than it already is. The Giants need to blow it up and start over.

  12. Hey Jay, losing OBJ wasn’t the problem…lack of a decent RB. Horrible QB play. Bad O Line. Bad coaching. By the way, let’s be serious WR rankings by serious coaches look more like 1) Antonio Brown 1)b. Julio Jones. 2)A.J. Green. 3) Larry Fitzgerald ( even at his age he is still unstoppable) 4) Jarvis Landry ( plus he plays every week!) 5)Demaryius Thomas. 6)Micheal Thomas. 7) Jordy Nelson. 8) Mike Evans. 9) Adam Theilan 10) Golden Tate…OBJ is way too hot and cold. These WRs need to he accounted for weekly. I’ve seen OBJ get single coverage and drop calls or not get open. Say what you want Giants fans, but the truth speaks through facts, stats and defences.

  13. Jay is baiting the Giants. The Redskins want the Giants to make Beckham the highest paid player in the league and set their franchise back a few years when it doesn’t pan out. They realize the Giants need upgrades at multiple positions and are attempting to make that difficult when they have cap problems.

  14. A nonsensical comment by Jay Gruden, who you think would know better. And OBJ couldn’t make a patch on Antonio Brown’s football pants.

  15. the problem is when they stopped being mannings team and started being Beckhams team. lets fly to miami during playoff week.

  16. A recent critique of sports media stated that because so many outlets don’t own content they have to emphasize the politics of sports. This is a case of people treating interviews like a court of law. You think Jay Gruden is going to analyze the Giants for the media so that he can give the Giants insight into his thinking or black board material. Of course not. Jay just gave a random innocuous compliment to one of their players so he could move on to his real job which is coaching not providing media content.

  17. Gruden needs to be checked & re-checked for CTE, if he thinks Odell Beckham is anywhere close to being ge best WR in the NFL. Most overrated, definitely, but not the best. That title belongs, solely & exclusively, to Antonio Brown. Beckham couldn’t even lace up AB’s cleats.

  18. 1phillyphan says:
    November 22, 2017 at 10:10 am
    Hey Jay, losing OBJ wasn’t the problem…
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    Do you really believe Jay Gruden comes to PFT to read your comments?

  19. jxt2521 says:
    November 22, 2017 at 9:10 am
    The giants when from middle of the road with few people expecting a shot at the playoffs to bottom third in the league because odell went down.
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    That is far from the reality I saw back in August when the giants fans were talking about making a run to the super bowl this year. Now all of a sudden “expectations were low”…

  20. Rahmstein Emanuel says:
    November 22, 2017 at 11:53 am

    jxt2521 says:
    November 22, 2017 at 9:10 am
    The giants when from middle of the road with few people expecting a shot at the playoffs to bottom third in the league because odell went down.
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    That is far from the reality I saw back in August when the giants fans were talking about making a run to the super bowl this year. Now all of a sudden “expectations were low”…

    Yeah man, too many media members pander to their fan bases. The people I watched and listened to expected the giants, bengals and seahawks to struggle because of their lines. ODB and AJ Green are so special they make their offenses better and there is a visual drop off when they aren’t playing.

  21. bystanderhere says:
    November 22, 2017 at 11:14 am
    1phillyphan says:
    November 22, 2017 at 10:10 am
    Hey Jay, losing OBJ wasn’t the problem…
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    Do you really believe Jay Gruden comes to PFT to read your comments?

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    Maybe not his, but he does come to read mine.

  22. There is no way Beckham is the best WR in the NFl. If Gruden truly believes that, he needs to be fired for coming to that conclusion.

    Beckham can’t hold someone like Edelman’s jock.

  23. tombradyelectricchair says:
    November 22, 2017 at 10:53 am
    Antonio Brown is the best receiver in the league.

    10 6 Rate This

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    I used to think that until he became a primadonna after the big contract. Heart matters as does selflessness.

    Edelman is the best all around WR in the conference and the best punt returner to boot.

  24. wagerhope says:
    November 22, 2017 at 9:10 am
    What’s he supposed to say? That looks like Gruden just being kind, not actually trying to analyze the situation.
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    I mean I couldnt agree an more. Why are people so tone deaf? Also, thats a worthless question. Is there a group of people concerned with what Gruden thinks the problem is with the Giants? Lord help us if there is.

  25. If that’s the problem than that’s a big problem ,,,team can’t be held together by one player ,haven’t all you fools been taught anything by Bill in New England

  26. Beckham is definitely the best receiver in the league…When Antonio Brown or Julio Jones or AJ Green show they can take a 10yd slant 70 yds for a TD then they can enter the conversation….

    Those guys although extremely good aren’t even in the same league as Odell with the ball in their hands…

  27. Do we dare ask John if the same could possibly apply to the packers. ya know like losing your star qb and the season goes into the tank. I wonder what he would say about that. DUH!

    I actually thought he was getting better in the booth until the last few games and he is back to showing videos and yapping like a stepped on dog while the game is going on.

  28. my_old_name_was_offensive says:
    November 22, 2017 at 1:54 pm
    Beckham is definitely the best receiver in the league…When Antonio Brown or Julio Jones or AJ Green show they can take a 10yd slant 70 yds for a TD then they can enter the conversation….

    Those guys although extremely good aren’t even in the same league as Odell with the ball in their hands…
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    The best receivers are the ones who stay healthy and make plays throughout the season. You cannot be great except in your own mind when you on the bench and miss most of the season

  29. This might be a wacky way of looking at it but I tend to count end results delivered more than hyoe or flash. So I have Brown, Jones, Green, and Edelman all as being ahead of Beckham. Im sure someone will argue with me touting what Beckhan can deliver, but with those other guys the conversation is more about what they already have delivered.

  30. my_old_name_was_offensive says:
    November 22, 2017 at 1:54 pm
    Beckham is definitely the best receiver in the league…When Antonio Brown or Julio Jones or AJ Green show they can take a 10yd slant 70 yds for a TD then they can enter the conversation….

    Those guys although extremely good aren’t even in the same league as Odell with the ball in their hands…

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    Your way off. Antonio Brown is first or second in any of the relevant receiving stats year in and year out. He rarely drops any balls, makes spectacular catches and is always available to work. He is also the AFC player of the week. Julio Jones, who by the way is the fastest out of the three, is better too. Of course OBJ is no slouch, your statements are just way off.

  31. And this perfectly illustrates why the Redskins will never win with Jay Gruden as HC – the guy is clueless.

  32. Last week when the kid from Jacksonville talked about “hanging forty” on the Browns, the overwhelming response was ‘kid, you NEVER give them anything to put on the bulletin board.’

    This week, JAY (yes, that’s Jay, not Jon, as several lazy readers above have mistakenly suggested) Gruden says that OBJ is the top WR in football. A quote specifically designed to complement the opponent and NOT give them any bulletin board material. And folks want to take issue with his logic.

    Meanwhile, BB says nice things about the Dolphin QBs and folks post that it is pure genius. I cannot call this ‘having a double-standard’ since it is clearly a triple…

  33. binarymath says:
    November 22, 2017 at 3:19 pm
    Last week when the kid from Jacksonville talked about “hanging forty” on the Browns, the overwhelming response was ‘kid, you NEVER give them anything to put on the bulletin board.’

    This week, JAY (yes, that’s Jay, not Jon, as several lazy readers above have mistakenly suggested) Gruden says that OBJ is the top WR in football. A quote specifically designed to complement the opponent and NOT give them any bulletin board material. And folks want to take issue with his logic.

    Meanwhile, BB says nice things about the Dolphin QBs and folks post that it is pure genius. I cannot call this ‘having a double-standard’ since it is clearly a triple…

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    Oh Im sorry, I did not know OBJ was playing this weekend like the guys Belichick was warming over.

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