Pereira, Blandino say Riveron has now robbed Seferian-Jenkins of two touchdowns

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For the second time this year, NFL V.P. of Officiating Al Riveron is being criticized by his predecessors for overturning an Austin Seferian-Jenkins touchdown.

Seferian-Jenkins, the Jets tight end who controversially had a touchdown turned into a turnover on a replay review earlier this year against the Patriots, had another touchdown overturned on replay on Sunday against the Panthers. Former officiating department heads Mike Pereira and Dean Blandino both said after the Patriots game that they thought Riveron erred, and now they’re saying that Riveron erred again in overturning the touchdown against the Panthers.

In a video published by FOX, Blandino said that although the ball did move while it was in Seferian-Jenkins’ hands, his hands stayed on the ball as he completed the process of the catch and therefore the call on the field should have stood.

“His hands are on the football the entire time,” Blandino said. “You’ve got to go back to the ruling on the field, and if it’s not clear and obvious, you’ve got to stay with the ruling on the field.”

Pereira told Blandino he saw it the same way: The replay wasn’t sufficient to overturn the ruling on the field.

“I agree with you,” Pereira told Blandino. “The danger of replay is overturning something that shouldn’t be overturned.”

The NFL’s replay rules haven’t changed since Riveron was promoted to the top job this offseason: Calls are only supposed to be changed on replay if there’s clear and obvious video evidence that the call on the field was wrong. The problem is that Riveron has a different definition of “clear and obvious” than Pereira and Blandino do. Seferian-Jenkins is finding that out the hard way.

78 responses to “Pereira, Blandino say Riveron has now robbed Seferian-Jenkins of two touchdowns

  1. Richest sport league in the world can’t hire a competent official to oversee competent officials.

    But, yeah, sure, let’s extend the contract of the Commissioner at $50MIL/year.

  2. Zebras aren’t word the uni they put on their backs. It’s no wonder the nfl has a black mark on their reputation.

  3. They take too much time to look at it. by the time they actually decide .. nobody really knows if its the right or wrong call.

    The call should come quickly and swiftly.

  4. Ratings have been down ever since Peyton Manning retired. Referees ruin too many outcomes. People are tired of the Patriots cheating. Too many TV ads. Thursday night football is a joke. Monday night football is an even bigger joke. Too many close ups of Mike Tomlin’s eyes. Football isn’t exciting anymore. These are all facts. Blake Bortles plays scared.

  5. “Blandino said that although the ball did move while it was in Seferian-Jenkins’ hands”.

    This is the exact definition of NOT IN CONTROL. If ASJ had 100% control, the ball would be locked up and not bobbing around in his hands as he slid out of bounds.

  6. We see rockets landing on the moon, but we can’t seem to get a call right. Believe me, they could if they wanted to. It’s not because of incompetence, or a bad commissioner. I’m not sure I even want the real reason. It’s kind of like sausage. It tastes good, but it might not taste as good if I visited a sausage factory and saw how it was made. NFL games could be refereed from monitors, and the correct calls could be relayed down to the field in real time. It wouldn’t take one extra second to get the calls right. The rules can be simplified too. Remember how much we hated the replacement refs, and couldn’t wait to get these guys back on the field? LOL. Those guys are just doing their job. The one thing I know is there is a lot of money being bet on games. If I knew what was really going on, it might ruin a good fantasy. I just accept it as part of the entertainment. I certainly don’t bet on games. Then I might get mad.

  7. Unreal. Neither were touchdowns. You can’t be moving the ball or not having total control when you hit the ground and show final control while laying out of bounds. Learn the rules.

    How much is Woody Johnson paying his NY friends Blandino and Perreira to do damage control and pretend their team is better than it really is?

  8. I actually think the biggest difference is in what Riveron considers “control” of the ball. I think he has a higher standard of control than Blandino and Pereira.

  9. floriosbaldspot says:
    November 30, 2017 at 12:12 pm
    Ratings have been down ever since Peyton Manning retired. Referees ruin too many outcomes. People are tired of the Patriots cheating. Too many TV ads. Thursday night football is a joke. Monday night football is an even bigger joke. Too many close ups of Mike Tomlin’s eyes. Football isn’t exciting anymore. These are all facts. Blake Bortles plays scared.

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    Hilarious. So, Goodell covering up Manning’s PED use (and god knows whoever else – Von Miller doesn’t look as good lately, huh?), is somehow less offensive than framing the Pats or Zeke Elliott?

  10. Patriots always benefit from questionable calls.
    Their whole dynasty is built on it and cheating.
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    Oh, c’mon!

    We’re making fun of bad officiating.

    Leave facts out of this, will you??!!

  11. Perhaps a small percentage of Roger’s compensation package ought to be earmarked for better training of officials. Nah, the NFL will still cry poor when it comes to paying cheerleaders more than $75/ game, goal line cameras, or their own friggin lavish workplaces.

  12. Thus began the great Periera/Blandino vs. Riveron feud, which lasted for generations and filled graveyards on both sides of the border. An alleged robbery of Sefarian-Jenkins on the part of Senor Riveron. The old men tell stories of it by the steps of the hacienda, and sad songs have been written.

  13. The NFL Officiating is one of the main reasons viewing numbers are down. You can see the refs completely controlling these games. People don’t believe what they are watching any more.

  14. and the NFL is puzzled as to why they are losing money. I am not a Lions fan, dont typically watch their games, yet it seems I can recall going back to 2012, them actually losing games based upon terrible and seemingly obvious calls. It happens 1-2 times a year.

  15. I agree with you,” Pereira told Blandino. “The danger of replay is overturning something that shouldn’t be overturned.” You mean like the Dez catch? 🙂

  16. His hands are on the football the entire time,” Blandino said. “You’ve got to go back to the ruling on the field, and if it’s not clear and obvious, you’ve got to stay with the ruling on the field.”

    The Dez catch? You mean the one you Blandino took away from him from your office in NYC. It was ruled a catch on the field and even Sam Shields the DB on the play said it was a catch

  17. That’s competition for you. Sometimes you eat the bar, sometimes the bar eats you.

    Every level from pee wee to jr. high to high school to college to the pro’s. Bad or incorrect calls are part of the game. If you can’t accept that, don’t participate.

  18. 2 totally different plays. The Pats play was not a catch, it was a fumble completely out of both hands (no control there) out of the end zone where Austin did not re gain control until after touching out of bounds. Touchback was correct call all day long.

    This Panther play looked like control, 2 feet (body in) ball moves as it’s allowed to but always in his control. Should have been TD.

    Go back to letting the Ref on the field make his own calls after review. Command center is terrible. Opens door for NFL office making the calls not the refs.

  19. Correction: Glad you’re not a Cowboys fan. We haven’t had an opposing O-lineman called for holding against us in 6 games. And we have 2 of the best pass rushers in the game and not ONE holding call in 6 games??? I’ve seen multiple in just 1 game. Kick a dog while he’s down I guess…for now

  20. The NFL isn’t losing money. You people amaze me with your ability to believe outright lies in the fact of actual fact.

  21. “Patriots always benefit from questionable calls.
    Their whole dynasty is built on it and cheating.”

    Nothing but a Pats hater myth. They have had just as many bad calls go against them as for them, just like any other team.

  22. tylawspick6 says:
    November 30, 2017 at 12:15 pm

    Unreal. Neither were touchdowns. You can’t be moving the ball or not having total control when you hit the ground and show final control while laying out of bounds. Learn the rules.

    How much is Woody Johnson paying his NY friends Blandino and Perreira to do damage control and pretend their team is better than it really is?

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    That’s rich coming from a homer whose team directly benefitted from this issue.

  23. If the officials aren’t throwing flag after flag, killing the flow of the game, they’re determining the outcome.

    Once the fans think games are being thrown, it’s the beginning of the end for the NFL, just look at boxing.

  24. Impossible to get excited about big plays any more because you know there’s a 50-50 chance it’ll be overturned. You watch the replay once or twice and you have your mind made up over what happened yet somehow the review manages to drag on for 5 more minutes. These guys must talk themselves in circles in that amount of time and change their mind 10 times. By the time they reach a final decision they’re so lost they don’t know which end is up.

  25. The one against the Patriots was obviously correct. He fumbled the ball and didn’t recover until he was out of bounds. The one against the Jets was much closer and less obvious, meaning it should have stood as called according to the “clear and obvious” part of the rule. Had it been called incomplete, due to the bobbling, that should have stood as called, too. The review official’s job is NOT to second-guess the on-field call, but rather to determine whether the on-field call was obviously wrong.

  26. Simple solution is to get rid of replay. Replay was put in place to correct calls on the field. There are misses every week, and it adds errors to the process. Get rid of it.

  27. The most frustrating aspect of this is that even though Al Riveron is so clearly not equipped for the job, we all know the NFL won’t do anything about it even after the season. It’s because the league office is filled with people who would rather compromise the integrity of the game and risk Riveron’s incompetence blowing up in their face than admit they were wrong.

    It boggles my mind how the most valuable sports league in the world is allowed to be run with such incompetence.

  28. fluiddarkness says:
    November 30, 2017 at 12:46 pm
    tylawspick6 says:
    November 30, 2017 at 12:15 pm

    Unreal. Neither were touchdowns. You can’t be moving the ball or not having total control when you hit the ground and show final control while laying out of bounds. Learn the rules.

    How much is Woody Johnson paying his NY friends Blandino and Perreira to do damage control and pretend their team is better than it really is?

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    That’s rich coming from a homer whose team directly benefitted from this issue.

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    Umm, in your world, does “benefit” mean enforcing the rule as it is stated in the rule book?

    Just how low can your IQ get?

    The rule is simple: If there is any space between the hands at any time before hitting the ground, “possession” is not accomplished.

  29. RegisHawk says:
    November 30, 2017 at 12:40 pm
    The NFL isn’t losing money. You people amaze me with your ability to believe outright lies in the fact of actual fact.

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    500 million lost starting last year in tv rating revenue.

    Just the facts. Just the facts.

  30. They need a complete re-write of certain sections of the rule book. These calls are ruining the game. What is the cutoff point at which “movement” negates the catch? The ball can technically be moving, but you are still “in control” of the the ball (e.g., against the chest with slight movement). You could probably go back and look at every catch in slow motion, and find something “wrong” with 50% of them. Further, the “breaking the plane” of the goal line rule needs examined…if they fumble in that scenario, it’s still a TD.

  31. pastabelly says:
    November 30, 2017 at 1:10 pm
    Blandino is no prize either.

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    Blandino and Perreira are from NY, so you have to automatically realize their agenda is tied to Goodell and the NY owners. Hence, be prepared to see some kind of an agenda pushed and some cheating.

    I mean, if you look at Blandino’s resume, there is nothing on it for like 15 years. He’s worked nowhere, all of a sudden he shows up with Goodell, and here we are being lectured by a phony dork on my tv screen who masquerades as a slimy lawyer.

    Super.

    Good decision, NFL!

  32. Sean McDonough summed it best recently on MNF when he mused (paraphrasing) about “Remember when instant replay was all about overturning obvious mistakes and wasn’t the (overly complicated, confusing, time consuming mess) we have now?”

  33. “Simple solution is to get rid of replay. ”

    Would not solve the problem at all. There are still millions of fans with DVRs that will replay anything they disagree with repeatedly in slo mo and the faults will be still be pointed out by a huge number of people.

    I think they need to get rid of the tablets and go back to full size, hooded screens so the refs can actually see the replays clearly. Trying to make sense on a tablet, especially if they are in the sun is ridiculous.

  34. ASJ signed with the Jets…he should have known what he was getting himself into.

    What….? Was he expecting touchdowns to come easily playing for that clown-show?

  35. Yeah, just because they used to have that job doesn’t mean that they’re right and he’s wrong. In fact, given how the rules are written and interpreted, I think Riveron was correct and Pereirdino were wrong in both cases.

    Whether that’s the way the rules should be written and interpreted is, of course, a different question. But both were overturns were, to my eyes, clearly correct under the current catch paradigm…

  36. getakluwe says:
    November 30, 2017 at 12:11 pm
    Patriots always benefit from questionable calls.
    Their whole dynasty is built on it and cheating.

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    Ha! The other 31 teams cheated the Pats out of two 1st round draft picks…..and those teams with the exception of a small few, still cannot compete with the Pats!

  37. aarons444 says:
    November 30, 2017 at 12:16 pm
    Patriots always benefit from questionable calls.
    Their whole dynasty is built on it and cheating.
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    Oh, c’mon!

    We’re making fun of bad officiating.

    Leave facts out of this, will you??!!
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    And yet if we rewind the clock a few decades the exact same thing was being said about the 49ers, Cowboys and Steelers. Facts and whining are most definitely NOT the same thing.

  38. In the end we can add Blandino and Perreira to the millions of other viewers that have no idea how the call is going to go. That’s the sad scary truth of it.

  39. They are right but let’s not act like Blandino was good. He routinely overturned calls without proper cause also. Replay overturns should be the exception. If an argument can be made for both sides then, by rule/definition the call should stand.

  40. I think what’s bothering fans is that they can’t help but know for sure and without question that in the same identical situation if the player was named Gronkowski instead of Jenkins both TDs would stand and never would have been reviewed. True story.

  41. RegisHawk says:
    November 30, 2017 at 12:40 pm

    The NFL isn’t losing money. You people amaze me with your ability to believe outright lies in the fact of actual fact.
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    Obviously they aren’t losing money, but they have been losing revenue.

  42. This is what you get when you micromanage sport. Cant wait till they allow coaches to file temporry injunctions on calls that go against them. 10 hour games !!! More time for booze commercials !!!! I wish Blandino, Perreira & Riveron would just go AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  43. harrisonhits2 says:
    November 30, 2017 at 1:25 pm

    I think they need to get rid of the tablets and go back to full size, hooded screens so the refs can actually see the replays clearly. Trying to make sense on a tablet, especially if they are in the sun is ridiculous.
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    The referees on the field aren’t even reviewing plays are they? I figured they were just watching Geico commercials whilst Al Riveron tells them what the outcome of the review is going to be.

  44. People should have realized the fix was in when he overturned that catch where the guy took 4 steps before he hit the ground.

  45. That was an easy call to make. And the fact that they continually review calls and still get them wrong is turning off fans. It brings fans to believe something is going on- yes rigged. Figure out what a catch is and what a fumble is quick. These are the basics of the game. Next protect the shield and get rid of 65- 70 year old guys that are out of position to make calls. The officiating in the NFL is the biggest issue turning off fans. If they don’t get a handle on this issue that has been going on for years now. I will just watch college football.

  46. nhpats says:
    November 30, 2017 at 1:50 pm
    getakluwe says:
    November 30, 2017 at 12:11 pm
    Patriots always benefit from questionable calls.
    Their whole dynasty is built on it and cheating.

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    Ha! The other 31 teams cheated the Pats out of two 1st round draft picks…..and those teams with the exception of a small few, still cannot compete with the Pats!

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    It’s so comical and rewarding, but I’d still like my 3 draft picks back.

  47. aarons444 says:
    November 30, 2017 at 12:16 pm

    Patriots always benefit from questionable calls.
    Their whole dynasty is built on it and cheating.
    ))))))))))))))))))))))))
    This from a packer fan. The packers get more than their fair share of help the from the NFL refs. And the NFL office. In fact the packers get more help than any team in the league.

  48. Facts and whining are most definitely NOT the same thing.
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    Agreed.

    The fact that you whine about the Patriots blatant and proven cheating is pretty annoying and sad.

  49. terrier92 says:
    This is what you get when you micromanage sport.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
    But remember, the OWNERS/HEAD COACHES COMPETITION COMMITTEE voted replay in.
    They created the monster of which fans were originally asking for and recieved.
    Remember back then………?
    Here's my beef, the NCAA seems to implement common sense rules into the college game that some actually make sense and work well. The NFL is too bullheaded to admit the NCAA does some things in the game that works. NCAA REPLAY is heads above the NFL manner. And faster.

  50. Three feet in the field of play.
    Two feet (or) one knee (or) one elbow on the sidelines while never losing possession of the ball during completion of the catch.

    Losing possession equates to the ball hitting the ground causing it to shift positions, or the ball not being secured by grip or cradling throughout the completion of the catch.

    It’s not that complicated.

  51. tylawspick6 says:
    November 30, 2017 at 1:22 pm

    Blandino and Perreira are from NY, so you have to automatically realize their agenda is tied to Goodell and the NY owners. Hence, be prepared to see some kind of an agenda pushed and some cheating.

    I mean, if you look at Blandino’s resume, there is nothing on it for like 15 years. He’s worked nowhere, all of a sudden he shows up with Goodell, and here we are being lectured by a phony dork on my tv screen who masquerades as a slimy lawyer.

    Super.

    Good decision, NFL!
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    Neither of those guys work for the NFL, and since they are routinely disagreeing with Al Riveron, who does work for the NFL, I doubt that they are in Goodell’s or the New Jersey owners’ pockets.

  52. aarons444 says:
    November 30, 2017 at 2:56 pm
    Facts and whining are most definitely NOT the same thing.
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    Agreed.

    The fact that you whine about the Patriots blatant and proven cheating is pretty annoying and sad.

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    2010:
    Bill Cowher: “You know, let me just say this: To answer your question, no, I don’t think so (it’s not an advantage for one team over another).
    I just know as a head coach, you are always looking for a competitive edge. We had people out there trying to look at signals. We had guys go to games. They would tape the signal caller and also write it down. They would take it back and match up the signals with the game film and certain defenses with certain plays that were being called, particularly the defenses being called, to see if we could come up with some kind of an alert for a signal. So, what they did with videotaping the signal caller, people do it with the people in the stands!!
    These people sitting there in the stands, looking at the signal, writing it down and matching up the 1st and 10 signal. Ok? Then you go back again and the 2nd and 10 and here’s the signal. You do that for a whole game.
    You then go back and match up the defenses with the signal. And you can come up with what the signal was.
    So, you don;’t need a video tape with what they were talking about doing. And people were doing it. WE were doing that. Everybody does that. You’re TRYING to gain a competitive edge. There is nothing wrong with that.
    That’s why baseball players go through the mirage of signals. They’ve got all these different codes. That’s part of the competitive spirit of the game. I think it’s totally overblown. I think if you get caught (signals compromised), then do what we did and go to wristbands, you are worried about it. We started putting defenses on wristbands. Then you find a way to not get caught (signals compromised). When your good at something and people try steal from ya, I think it’s flattering.”

  53. Marshall Faulk to your boy Tom Curran,

    “Am I over the loss? Yeah, I’m over the loss,” Faulk said. “But I’ll never be over being cheated out of the Super Bowl. That’s a different story.”

    Faulk said his experience playing in the game is what has him convinced New England cheated.

    “I understand Bill (Belichick) is a great coach,” Faulk told Curran. “But No. 13 (Kurt Warner) will tell you. Mike Martz will tell you. We had some plays in the red zone that we hadn’t ran. I think we got to fourth down — we ran three plays that we hadn’t ran, that Mike drew up for that game – Bill’s a helluva coach . . . we hadn’t ran them the whole year (and the Patriots were ready for them)… “I know, in that game, in the red zone, the plays we ran, most of them we hadn’t ran most of those plays that year. And a couple of plays on third down that we walked through also . . . Any time that I was offset, I was always stationary. And we had creating motioning in the backfield at the same depth on the other side of the field. And they created a check for it. It’s just little things like that. It’s either the best coaching in the world when you come up with situations that you had never seen before. Or you’d seen it and knew what to do.”

  54. aarons444 says:
    November 30, 2017 at 2:56 pm

    Agreed.

    The fact that you whine about the Patriots blatant and proven cheating is pretty annoying and sad.
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    Well you reap what you sow. Besides, I’m perfectly fine with annoying people about it. Take the blinders off and … your welcome. 🙂

    We won’t get into the notion that every team penalized by Goodell during his tenure was premeditated and intentional to serve a completely different cause than the integrity of the shield.

  55. shutupbrees says:
    November 30, 2017 at 3:13 pm

    Three feet in the field of play.
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    The how is it a guy got 4 feet down and the catch was overturned?

    I don’t know about the rules being complicated, but they sure are ambiguous.

    It used to be two feet down and a football move, whatever that means, and then they tried to say they had to possess it for a certain amount of time, however long that was.

    Movement or juggling of the football should only be a factor if a player goes out of bounds.

  56. aarons444 says:
    November 30, 2017 at 3:33 pm
    “It’s just little things like that. It’s either the best coaching in the world when you come up with situations that you had never seen before. Or you’d seen it and knew what to do.”
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    Naturally it’s the latter and not the former. 😐

    Even post-spygate it’s patently obvious Belichick has his teams are ready for just about everything. The one exception was the Wildcat formation for about 2-3 games before they figured out how to handle it. Why is it so hard to digest that the Patriots were going to let any other player than Faulk beat them (which explains the check)? It’s like people forget that Belichick is going to force you to use your 3rd and 4th options (RProhel ahem ahem). Not that he’s known for that or anything (Sarcasm). Whatever. The simple truth is it’s easier to write it off to cheating than being prepared.

  57. fireroger says:
    November 30, 2017 at 4:20 pm
    aarons444 says:
    November 30, 2017 at 3:33 pm
    “It’s just little things like that. It’s either the best coaching in the world when you come up with situations that you had never seen before. Or you’d seen it and knew what to do.”
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    Naturally it’s the latter and not the former. 😐

    Even post-spygate it’s patently obvious Belichick has his teams are ready for just about everything. The one exception was the Wildcat formation for about 2-3 games before they figured out how to handle it. Why is it so hard to digest that the Patriots were going to let any other player than Faulk beat them (which explains the check)? It’s like people forget that Belichick is going to force you to use your 3rd and 4th options (RProhel ahem ahem). Not that he’s known for that or anything (Sarcasm). Whatever. The simple truth is it’s easier to write it off to cheating than being prepared.

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    Faulk is still crying because the Pats came out and punched “The Greatest Show on Turf” in the mouth and smacked them down to size…

  58. It was just last year when Blandino was defending calls like the “fumble” by the Browns’ Duke Johnson against the Redskins. Now, he’s no longer a league employee and he’s developed the ability to say that the officials made a mistake. It’s a miracle!

  59. fireroger says:
    November 30, 2017 at 4:20 pm

    aarons444 says:
    November 30, 2017 at 3:33 pm
    “It’s just little things like that. It’s either the best coaching in the world when you come up with situations that you had never seen before. Or you’d seen it and knew what to do.”
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    Naturally it’s the latter and not the former. 😐

    Whatever. The simple truth is it’s easier to write it off to cheating than being prepared.

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    Remember the Falcons-Seahawks Monday night game from a couple weeks ago, the one where the Falcons blew up Seattle’s fake FG play? After the game, Seattle players and coaches were saying that they never saw Atlanta defend a FG that way. Every example they saw on film before the game, the Falcons played it one way. The one team Seattle tried a fake, Atlanta did something different and stuffed the play. No one, not even in the media, implied there was any cheating going on. It was just good preparation and execution by Atlanta.

    Meanwhile, closing in on 20 years later, Marshall Faulk continues to be a sore loser and people think this signifies something other than a character flaw in Faulk. The fact is, Faulk and the Rams thought they were going to cruise to an easy victory and, when things didn’t go their way, they decided to look for excuses instead of accepting the fact that they were beaten.

  60. Yes the Jet’s got hosed by two awful touchdown calls. I am a Jets fan but let’s not act like McCown hasn’t thrown us out of plenty of games we could have won.

    Seriously McCown is a great guy and a great guy to have in your locker room. All the media heads keep fawning over his completion percentage but he’s been abysmal. He misses plays on the field and opts for the check down, he’ll also completely ignore the check down at times and look for a guy down field and scramble for five seconds and then throw it away, he also loves the awful fourth quarter turnover. To be real, with at least average QB play the Jets could of easily entered the Panthers game at 6-3 or 7-2.

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