Belichick on Gronk suspension: “We’ll see what happens when we get final word”

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The NFL suspended Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski for one game, as a result of his vicious blow to the head of Bills cornerback Tre'Davious White. Gronkowski, despite his contrition, has decided to appeal.

When asked about the suspension, the always-chatty Bill Belichick didn’t have much to say.

“Well, we’ll see what happens when we get the final word,” Belichick told reporters on Tuesday. “That’s not a decision that we have. It’s not our decision.”

Some would say maybe it should be. Maybe Gronkowski shouldn’t have appealed. Maybe Belichick, who admitted to Bills coach Sean McDermott that the hit was “bullish-t,” should have urged/instructed Gronkwski not to appeal.

“Well, again, that decision is not one that we’re making,” Belichick added regarding the potential benefit of Gronkowski getting a game off during the stretch run. “It’s a league decision.”

Apart from the $250,000 game check that Gronkowski would be losing, missing another game would make it harder for him to meet the triggers necessary to unlock $5.5 million in incentives for 2017. He already has reached the first $1 million by getting to 800 receiving yards.

To get another $2 million, he needs to participate in 80 percent of the offensive snaps for the full season or catch 70 passes or generate 1,000 receiving yards or score 12 touchdowns. To get the final $2.5 million on top of that, Gronkowski needs to participate in 90 percent of the snaps (not likely if the suspension is upheld) or catch 80 passes or gain 1,200 receiving yards or score 14 touchdowns or be named the Associated Press first-team All-Pro.

Currently, Gronkowski has 55 catches for 849 yards and seven touchdowns in 11 games (he missed one game due to injury). If the suspension is upheld, he’ll need to pick up 25 catches or 351 receiving yards or five touchdowns in three games — or hope that he will get more votes than the likes of Zach Ertz (who has more catches and as many touchdowns), Travis Kelce (who has more catches and yards), and/or Jimmy Graham (who has more touchdowns) in the contest to be named AP All-Pro.

65 responses to “Belichick on Gronk suspension: “We’ll see what happens when we get final word”

  1. Cardinals wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald is in the minority.

    “I don’t particularly like the suspension,” Fitzgerald said on Westwood One prior to Monday Night Football. “I don’t like when the actions of one player affects his team. Taking him off the field for a complete game is going to really hurt the Patriots. I thought he definitely should have been fined heavily. Those kind of plays really don’t have a place in our game. I think the NFL has done a great job of emphasizing that over the last few years. I don’t agree with the one game suspension though.”

  2. I believe the players union requires players to appeal all suspensions. Certainly Belichick is in no position to tell Gronk to forfeit pay and incentives.

  3. I see Fitzgerald’s point but eventually something really bad is going to happen because these events have gotten more frequent and more violent. If the NFLPA really cares about its players it should care about the health of all of them. In my opinion, the player’s health is more important than his pocketbook. I think suspensions are necessary to use as a deterrent. Maybe Talib will think twice if it means it’ll affect his pocketbook. Maybe Gronk should have thought about his bonuses before doing what he did. His victim is in concussion protocol and we all know how big the CTE thing is right now. I think removing hits like this from the game is a good thing. It’s a game and shouldn’t being impacting a player’s health, especially their long-term health.

  4. Flash1287 says:

    December 5, 2017 at 1:19 pm

    Cardinals wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald is in the minority.

    “I don’t particularly like the suspension,” Fitzgerald said on Westwood One prior to Monday Night Football. “I don’t like when the actions of one player affects his team. Taking him off the field for a complete game is going to really hurt the Patriots. I thought he definitely should have been fined heavily. Those kind of plays really don’t have a place in our game. I think the NFL has done a great job of emphasizing that over the last few years. I don’t agree with the one game suspension though.”
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    This is pretty much just as bad of what the Patriots radio announcer Scott Zolak said………..after the Gronk hit on White, he said, good for him, good for him. You agree with that nonsense?

  5. The whole thing is getting out of whack, it feels like something REALLY bad is just around the corner. The players are taking everything to the max because the league allows it to, and it all seems to be coming to a head.

    This could get ugly.

  6. .
    ” Maybe Gronkowski shouldn’t have appealed. Maybe Belichick, who admitted to Bills coach Sean McDermott that the hit was “bullish-t,” should have urged/instructed Gronkwski not to appeal.”
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    It’s way beyond the purview of head coach (management) to order a union member to waive their rights under the collective bargaining agreement. Should all head coaches make all the decisions regarding disciplinary actions?
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  7. Why does the media continue to quote Bill Belichick? He never says anything of substance…Moving along

  8. I’m with whenwiliteverend.

    Starting to feel like something is really off this year with what feels like a big uptick in the injuries and chippy nonsense, and I’m sure the league is noticing that the public and media are noticing. Since that’s the only things that gets the League office going, perhaps real soon the hammer should/will come down on dirty hits, to the point where the history of fines and suspensions doesn’t apply anymore and the penalties for egregious hits are much greater, as they should be in the face of the seriousness of matter.

    New Englander here — I love me some Gronk — but two games and a $100,000 on top of that still feels right, not just as a punishment, but a MESSAGE to all, because something really needs to change in the culture, deep down.

    How about hammerheads stop arguing about all the emotion and passion the game requires, which is really only bloodlust, and instead emphasize that the millions of dollars paid to players requires not only talent and competitiveness but PROFESSIONALISM, with the billionaire boys club of owners actually caring about the guys on the gridiron (tee hee, I know), or at the very least using sound business judgment (another tee-hee, I know) and viewing their players as an investment that needs to be protected as much as possible in the dangerous and violent sport.

  9. If this was the NHL he’d be suspended 3 games minimum because it’s his first offense which is basically like missing 1 game in NFL. Happens again and the suspension grows.

  10. whenwilliteverend says:
    December 5, 2017 at 1:29 pm

    I see Fitzgerald’s point but eventually something really bad is going to happen

    Darryl Stingley agrees,

    the disparity, nay favoritism in the way of fines/suspensions is becoming quite transparent.

  11. Trust Gronk’s appeal included the ‘countless’hours of tape that show the times that Rob is held during a game and the number of times that phantom offensive pass interference calls suddenly ‘blatantly happen’.

    Again, he wouldn’t wouldn’t be in this situation if the refs had done their job and called holding and defensive pass interference against Buffalo. The refs were flat out BLIND or turned an eye, because it was Gronk.

    If anyone should have been suspended, it should have been the refs. Had they done their job, we wouldn’t be talking about this right now.

  12. The suspension needs to be longer. Ideally, much longer.
    Gronk concussed TreDavious White, thus putting him at risk for permanent brain injury.
    The NFL needs to draw a clear distinction between hits that occur on the field, during a play, and cheap shots after the whistle. No excuse for the latter.

  13. ariani1985 says:
    December 5, 2017 at 1:33 pm
    can’t believe BB accepts cheap shots….then again he is known for cheating….

    down with 2 yard tom and their shenanigans!!!

    Sunday Brady eclipsed 65,000 yards in completions. At two yards a pop, that’s, um, 32,500 completions.

    The record holder for completions is Bret Favre with 6,500. Somebody’s math is bad, and I don’t think it’s the NFL’s.

  14. This is pretty much just as bad of what the Patriots radio announcer Scott Zolak said………..after the Gronk hit on White, he said, good for him, good for him. You agree with that nonsens

    Didn’t hear that. IF he said it then no I don’t agree.

  15. The lame guys covering Belichick continue to let him get away with his pathetic act that there is nothing he can do. That’s the real BS in this. If Belichick thinks it was a dirty play and he does not condone such actions by his players, he has the unquestioned ability to suspend Gronkowski for conduct detrimental to the team. Who plays for his team and what conduct he will accept are directly in Belichick’s control.

    Suspend and fine him yourself, Belichick, or admit that you condone any behavior if it helps you win.

  16. Flash1287 says:

    December 5, 2017 at 2:01 pm

    This is pretty much just as bad of what the Patriots radio announcer Scott Zolak said………..after the Gronk hit on White, he said, good for him, good for him. You agree with that nonsens

    Didn’t hear that. IF he said it then no I don’t agree.
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    Not just a IF he said it man, he said it, google it, it’s everywhere. You can even go back and listen, there is a clip of it. But glad you don’t agree with that anyways.

  17. Black Dog says:
    December 5, 2017 at 1:53 pm
    The suspension needs to be longer. Ideally, much longer.
    Gronk concussed TreDavious White, thus putting him at risk for permanent brain injury.
    The NFL needs to draw a clear distinction between hits that occur on the field, during a play, and cheap shots after the whistle. No excuse for the latter.
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    Not excusing the Gronk hit (because there is none) but in the grand scheme of things White has probably already experienced or should expect much more egregious hits just by the nature of playing in the NFL. Permanent brain damage is just as likely with legal vs illegal hits.

  18. Based on historical precedent, there is no way Gronk deserved more than a game. He isn’t a repeat offender. The hit was punished correctly. Of course you appeal. Everyone appeals. But he probably won’t win, particularly in light of the suspensions recently laid down after last nights Bengals/Steelers game. All the appeals will likely fail.

    In Gronk’s case it wasn’t so much that he intended to injure, it’s that he attacked a completely defenseless player after the whistle out of bounds in a very dangerous way. It was a wrestling move. No reason for it.

    In the other suspensions laid down last night, they were in the game, which is more excusable, but there was definitely intent to injure. It wasn’t a reaction, it was premeditated.

  19. Lengthen the suspension! He made a concious decision, from a dead stop, after a play, to attack another player on the ground out of bounds. He hurt his team, not the people who must discipline him for it. After he did it, he taunted fans then offered a half-baked apology. The league dropped the ball. Again.

  20. Black Dog says:
    December 5, 2017 at 1:53 pm
    The suspension needs to be longer. Ideally, much longer.
    Gronk concussed TreDavious White, thus putting him at risk for permanent brain injury.
    The NFL needs to draw a clear distinction between hits that occur on the field, during a play, and cheap shots after the whistle. No excuse for the latter.

    17 10 Rate This

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    So, you’re a cheater like Goodell and your own owner. Thanks for admitting that.

    Explain how Gronk gets the 1 game suspension yet AJ Green gets nothing. Explain how Bobby McCain slams Amendola’s head into the ground, then comes across with a forearm shiver (like Gronk did), but your outrage is only placed here, and not towards another team.

    Explain that convenient level of cheating you want executed, please.

    Why is it that the Pats are the poster child for word changes in rules, rule applications and changing of punishments, please.

    Lastly, White was concussed after hitting his head on the ground, after he held Gronk twice, making a mockery of the sport itself, and then shoving Gronk down to get his precious little cheating INT.

  21. In Teddy We Trust says:
    December 5, 2017 at 2:01 pm
    Under the CBA, players have the right to appeal suspensions. I don’t think the players union would take kindly to management pressuring a player to waive that right.

    4 0 Rate This

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    Correct.

    As per usual, BB is following the rules to the T, and others try to claim he’s trying to do something under-handed, because they are paranoid LOSERS as human beings and fans of LOSER franchises, besieged with jealousy never before seen in human history.

  22. gurnblanstonreturns says:
    December 5, 2017 at 2:08 pm
    The lame guys covering Belichick continue to let him get away with his pathetic act that there is nothing he can do. That’s the real BS in this. If Belichick thinks it was a dirty play and he does not condone such actions by his players, he has the unquestioned ability to suspend Gronkowski for conduct detrimental to the team. Who plays for his team and what conduct he will accept are directly in Belichick’s control.

    Suspend and fine him yourself, Belichick, or admit that you condone any behavior if it helps you win.
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    Seriously? Name the last 5 coaches that suspended a player without the league suspending\fining? G’luck with that.

  23. fcoprado says:
    December 5, 2017 at 2:05 pm
    Geezer Gronk…you must be money desperate to meet the requirements for incentives

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    What does “Geezer Gronk” even mean. It makes no sense.

  24. Suspend and fine him yourself, Belichick, or admit that you condone any behavior if it helps you win.
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    The LEAGUE condones it! Its not up to Belichick to police it.

    If they League cared, these suspensions would hold up rather than ALWAYS being reduced. EJECTIONS would be automatic. Fights would be curbed at the very least as players would lose game checks, MULTIPLE checks….

    The League doesn’t care. Period. They’re not interested in cleaning up their image or barring dirty cheap shot artists from their game.

  25. Gronk did something really stupid. Why he is appealing the suspension is beyond comprehension. Just serve the one game vs. Miami and be ready to go to Pittsburgh. What a lunkhead he is. Great player, but not the brightest…not in this case.

  26. Black Dog says:
    December 5, 2017 at 1:53 pm
    The suspension needs to be longer. Ideally, much longer.
    Gronk concussed TreDavious White, thus putting him at risk for permanent brain injury.
    The NFL needs to draw a clear distinction between hits that occur on the field, during a play, and cheap shots after the whistle. No excuse for the latter.

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    Based on what precedent? Why not just admit it’s because it’s the Patriots. I’d be supportive if they changed the rules and informed the players of the potential penalty, but 1 game is the most they would ever give for a play like that for a first time offender.

  27. I also love the Patriot fans that defended Gronk saying it would not have happened if White did not hold him all day.
    Gronk also pushes off and picks as much as anyone in the NFL. And I don’t care if he complains about not getting calls. He can do that all he wants. But you’re defending a disgusting act because he gets held. Shameful.

  28. Lol, Patriots fans

    It’s always someone else’s fault.

    So if your employer continually under pays you, then you have the right to steal

    If Gronk doesn’t like it then he should just quit. He should have been suspended 3-4 games.

    No Patriot fan cared when they continually held the Colts in 2003. Instead they lied about saying Polian asked for a rule change and called the Colts soft.

    And the irony. Patriots didn’t play by the rules in spygate and deflategate

  29. bullcharger says:

    December 5, 2017 at 2:52 pm

    I think Gronk made an error in judgement… He’s not suddenly a cheap shot artist. Punish, forgive, monitor, move on.
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    Just for the record, I don’t think he is either.

  30. billswillnevermove says:
    December 5, 2017 at 2:47 pm
    I also love the Patriot fans that defended Gronk saying it would not have happened if White did not hold him all day.
    Gronk also pushes off and picks as much as anyone in the NFL. And I don’t care if he complains about not getting calls. He can do that all he wants. But you’re defending a disgusting act because he gets held. Shameful.

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    I don’t think there are too many Patriots fans that condone what Gronk did. Regardless of how frustrated he was, that’s not ok.

  31. aarons444 says:
    December 5, 2017 at 2:43 pm
    Earl Thomas hit Nov 13, 2016, still awesome.
    ===========================
    Danny Trevathan hit Sep 28, 2017, still awesome.

  32. billswillnevermove says:
    December 5, 2017 at 2:47 pm
    I also love the Patriot fans that defended Gronk saying it would not have happened if White did not hold him all day.
    Gronk also pushes off and picks as much as anyone in the NFL. And I don’t care if he complains about not getting calls. He can do that all he wants. But you’re defending a disgusting act because he gets held. Shameful.

    luckyforus says:
    December 5, 2017 at 2:53 pm
    Lol, Patriots fans

    It’s always someone else’s fault.

    So if your employer continually under pays you, then you have the right to steal

    If Gronk doesn’t like it then he should just quit. He should have been suspended 3-4 games.

    No Patriot fan cared when they continually held the Colts in 2003. Instead they lied about saying Polian asked for a rule change and called the Colts soft.

    And the irony. Patriots didn’t play by the rules in spygate and deflategate
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    The majority of Pats fans are condoning the suspension. You were saying?

    Spygate and Deflategate … two of the biggest frame jobs in the history of sports. Both of which had more to do with Goodell making a name for himself than anything as egregious as the “integrity of the shield’. We all know that by now.

  33. 2010:
    Bill Cowher: “You know, let me just say this: To answer your question, no, I don’t think so (it’s not an advantage for one team over another).
    I just know as a head coach, you are always looking for a competitive edge. We had people out there trying to look at signals. We had guys go to games. They would tape the signal caller and also write it down. They would take it back and match up the signals with the game film and certain defenses with certain plays that were being called, particularly the defenses being called, to see if we could come up with some kind of an alert for a signal. So, what they did with videotaping the signal caller, people do it with the people in the stands!!
    These people sitting there in the stands, looking at the signal, writing it down and matching up the 1st and 10 signal. Ok? Then you go back again and the 2nd and 10 and here’s the signal. You do that for a whole game.
    You then go back and match up the defenses with the signal. And you can come up with what the signal was.
    So, you don;’t need a video tape with what they were talking about doing. And people were doing it. WE were doing that. Everybody does that. You’re TRYING to gain a competitive edge. There is nothing wrong with that.
    That’s why baseball players go through the mirage of signals. They’ve got all these different codes. That’s part of the competitive spirit of the game. I think it’s totally overblown. I think if you get caught (signals compromised), then do what we did and go to wristbands, you are worried about it. We started putting defenses on wristbands. Then you find a way to not get caught (signals compromised). When your good at something and people try steal from ya, I think it’s flattering.”
    Try the new Yahoo Mail

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    2010:

    Bill Cowher: “You know, let me just say this: To answer your question, no, I don’t think so (it’s not an advantage for one team over another).
    I just know as a head coach, you are always looking for a competitive edge. We had people out there trying to look at signals. We had guys go to games. They would tape the signal caller and also write it down. They would take it back and match up the signals with the game film and certain defenses with certain plays that were being called, particularly the defenses being called, to see if we could come up with some kind of an alert for a signal. So, what they did with videotaping the signal caller, people do it with the people in the stands!!
    These people sitting there in the stands, looking at the signal, writing it down and matching up the 1st and 10 signal. Ok? Then you go back again and the 2nd and 10 and here’s the signal. You do that for a whole game.
    You then go back and match up the defenses with the signal. And you can come up with what the signal was.
    So, you don;’t need a video tape with what they were talking about doing. And people were doing it. WE were doing that. Everybody does that. You’re TRYING to gain a competitive edge. There is nothing wrong with that.
    That’s why baseball players go through the mirage of signals. They’ve got all these different codes. That’s part of the competitive spirit of the game. I think it’s totally overblown. I think if you get caught (signals compromised), then do what we did and go to wristbands, you are worried about it. We started putting defenses on wristbands. Then you find a way to not get caught (signals compromised). When your good at something and people try steal from ya, I think it’s flattering.”
    Try the new Yahoo Mail

  34. Danny Trevathan hit Sep 28, 2017, still awesome.
    =====

    One hit, perfectly legal, right in the numbers.

    One hit, absolutely dirty, knocked a man unconcious, and could have paralyzed him.

    .. but hey, I expect nothing less from your type.

  35. aarons444 says:
    December 5, 2017 at 3:13 pm
    Danny Trevathan hit Sep 28, 2017, still awesome.
    =====

    One hit, perfectly legal, right in the numbers.

    One hit, absolutely dirty, knocked a man unconcious, and could have paralyzed him.

    .. but hey, I expect nothing less from your type.
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    Interesting. How many games did Trevathan serve again?

  36. aarons444 says:
    December 5, 2017 at 3:21 pm
    Marshall Faulk interviewed by Bostardian Tom Curran,

    “It’s either the best coaching in the world when you come up with situations that you had never seen before. Or you’d seen it and knew what to do.”
    ================================
    In short, it couldn’t possibly be the former. Despite all evidence to suggest it is.

  37. aarons444 says:
    December 5, 2017 at 3:13 pm
    Danny Trevathan hit Sep 28, 2017, still awesome.
    =====

    One hit, perfectly legal, right in the numbers.

    One hit, absolutely dirty, knocked a man unconcious, and could have paralyzed him.

    .. but hey, I expect nothing less from your type.
    ============================
    Paralyzed him … BWA HA HA

    White got up. Adams did not. You were saying?

  38. wib22 says:

    December 5, 2017 at 3:06 pm

    pats fans = gronk did nothing wrong.

    ________

    Not true. Not all of us think that what he did was okay. It wasn’t.

  39. It looks like Playing in the NFL is a license to hurt or even Kill and getting big pay for it. Gronk could have broken his neck. Something real bad like that is going to happen and the NFL couldn’t care less. Its all about the money.

  40. aarons444 says:
    December 5, 2017 at 3:13 pm
    Danny Trevathan hit Sep 28, 2017, still awesome.
    =====

    .. but hey, I expect nothing less from your type.
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    Oh and in case you are struggling with senility …

    aarons444 says:
    December 5, 2017 at 2:43 pm
    Earl Thomas hit Nov 13, 2016, still awesome.

  41. It’s funny to read some of the comments by some Pats fans trying to defend Gronk…But the Pats haters that want him suspended multiple games to a lifetime ban just really crack me up. Gronk was wrong but it was not premeditated…It amazes me that the Patriots can instill so much hatred in people…Not because they cheat, but because they are just head and shoulders above the other teams in the NFL!

  42. aarons444 says:
    December 5, 2017 at 3:54 pm
    Paralyzed him … BWA HA HA
    =====

    The defense rests.
    ====================
    You got that right …

    .. but hey, I expect nothing less from your type.
    =====================
    Oh and in case you are struggling with senility …

    aarons444 says:
    December 5, 2017 at 2:43 pm
    Earl Thomas hit Nov 13, 2016, still awesome.

  43. eddievortex says:
    December 5, 2017 at 3:49 pm
    It’s funny to read some of the comments by some Pats fans trying to defend Gronk…But the Pats haters that want him suspended multiple games to a lifetime ban just really crack me up. Gronk was wrong but it was not premeditated…It amazes me that the Patriots can instill so much hatred in people…Not because they cheat, but because they are just head and shoulders above the other teams in the NFL!

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    Welcome to our world.

    Week 11: Bobby McCain can slam Amendola’s head into the ground, followed up with a forearm shiver to the head, with an ejection. No outrage by these same people.

    Week 12: Gronk ALSO snaps, with a forearm shiver to the head of White, as Gronk goes overbaord in frustration tryin to make an unnecessary “tackle” after an INT, where some cheating by Buffalo was occurring. No ejection, but insane outrage and outcry by people on tv and the messageboards knowing Goodell listens to them.

    See why pats fans have an issue with a lying, cheating commissioner and most pathetic fanbases who want him to move the goalposts when he can see an opportunity to cheat the Pats?

    Keep in mind, this is the only sports league that behaves in this fashion and it’s because the other leagues don’t have cheating owners or commissioners.

  44. Win or lose in Miami, the battle for home field in the playoffs will occur in Pittsburg. I’d love to see the Pats pull a basketball and rest their starters for a prime time game

  45. If the Patriots game had been played on the same day or a day after the Steelers-Bengals game, I think Gronk’s suspension would have been for two games. Wait and see: I bet the Sunday suspensions won’t be announced until Tuesday for the rest of the year.

  46. icebowler says:
    December 5, 2017 at 4:25 pm
    If the Patriots game had been played on the same day or a day after the Steelers-Bengals game, I think Gronk’s suspension would have been for two games. Wait and see: I bet the Sunday suspensions won’t be announced until Tuesday for the rest of the year.

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    I bet you’re wrong. Why was Bobby McCain not suspended after what he did to Amendola’s head last week before he was EJECTED for it?

    This is all about going after the Pats, so the goalposts were moved midseason.

    AGAIN.

  47. pjbergeron81 says:
    December 5, 2017 at 4:09 pm
    Bills were holding the entire game, then cry when their player
    gets what he deserved.
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    Sorry but no. Even if you wanted to spread the notion that every player should maul another player when they aren’t getting the calls, you’d still be wrong.

  48. tylawspick6 says:
    December 5, 2017 at 4:40 pm
    icebowler says:
    December 5, 2017 at 4:25 pm
    If the Patriots game had been played on the same day or a day after the Steelers-Bengals game, I think Gronk’s suspension would have been for two games. Wait and see: I bet the Sunday suspensions won’t be announced until Tuesday for the rest of the year.
    0 0 Rate This
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    I bet you’re wrong. Why was Bobby McCain not suspended after what he did to Amendola’s head last week before he was EJECTED for it?
    This is all about going after the Pats, so the goalposts were moved midseason.
    AGAIN.
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    I have nothing against the Patriots. I’m just pointing to the league office inconsistency’s. Sure I could be wrong; who knows what the league will do case to case. We’ll see in the next few weeks.

  49. bill always gets it right. he could run the whole league in his spare time and it would be run a whole lot more consistently and efficiently.

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