Ben Roethlisberger: Gronk should get a harsher punishment than JuJu

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Steelers wide receiver JuJu Smith-Schuster and Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski are both suspended for this week’s games, but both will be back next week when their teams play each other. Ben Roethlisberger doesn’t think that’s right.

Roethlisberger told reporters he thought the suspension for Smith-Schuster was overly harsh, considering Smith-Schuster’s hit on Bengals linebacker Vontaze Burfict came on a bang-bang play in the course of a typical football situation. Gronkowski, on the other hand, blindsided a prone opponent who was lying on the ground after a play.

“I didn’t think it was warranted, I thought maybe a fine,” Roethlisberger said of Smith-Schuster’s discipline. “You look at what Gronk did and what JuJu did, they got the same suspension. I don’t know that that’s necessarily fair.”

The problem with NFL discipline is that there are no consistent standards for what constitutes a fine, what constitutes a one-game suspension and what constitutes a multiple-game suspension. The on-field officials are also inconsistent about deciding when to eject a player and when to allow a player to stay in the game after a personal foul. Players are left confused about why seemingly different offenses result in the same punishments.

120 responses to “Ben Roethlisberger: Gronk should get a harsher punishment than JuJu

  1. He’s absolutely right, it didn’t even have anything to do with football, it was a wrestling move.

    Rumor has it he did as part of his deal with the WWE.

  2. It’s the same reason why Screamin’ A. Smith wanted Gronk suspended more games…so that he is out in 2 weeks when his Steelers play the Patriots.

  3. “Ben not like inconsistent punishment. Ben once serve suspension despite lack of conviction. Ben not forget.”

  4. Big Ben is right on this one, no different than Alonzo hit on Flacco, it was a bang, bang play and on the filed. The Gronk hit, play was over, White was laying on the ground out of bounds.

  5. I’d rather the League just be honest with me and drop this whole charade.

    If they wanted a cleaner and safer game, they could have it. They’re not the least bit interested in that. Their actions prove it with each and every episode.

  6. Drama Queen Ben seems to forget that Ju-Ju then proceeded to stand over Burfict and taunted him… so let’s not get all high and mighty.

  7. Maybe if you hadn’t been so nonchalant in your comments after the game along with the “karma baby”s in the locker room that left little doubt that it wasn’t premeditated, they would have gone easier.

  8. Big Ben’s right. It’s not even close to being fair. JUJU should have been fined. Gronk should of got even a harsher penalty. I hope that big goofball gets what’s coming to him. Karma!

  9. joetoronto says:
    December 6, 2017 at 11:37 am
    He’s absolutely right, it didn’t even have anything to do with football, it was a wrestling move.
    Rumor has it he did as part of his deal with the WWE.

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    He’s absolutely wrong.

    The punishment is fair in both cases.

    Gronk is a first time offender, that reacted irresponsibly in a moment of frustration and committed a dangerous after the whistle hit on a defenseless player. That deserves 1 game given his track record and the fact that it wasn’t premeditated.

    JuJu intentionally targeted the dirtiest player in the league with a blind side headshot after both teams were warned about this stuff. Then he stood over Burfict to really rub in that he meant to do it. He meant to hurt Burfict. Totally premeditated. Looking for a chance to take his head off. He did it on the field in a football play. One game is fair for that too.

  10. joetoronto says:
    December 6, 2017 at 11:37 am
    He’s absolutely right, it didn’t even have anything to do with football, it was a wrestling move.

    Rumor has it he did as part of his deal with the WWE.

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    After watching a number of Raiders’ games this season, I didn’t see much from them that had much to do with football either

  11. Fine for Ju-Ju, maybe tack on a little extra $$ for the taunt. Gronk still needs to sit for a game. The fact he doesn’t have a rap sheet like Burfict or Suh is why it’s only 1 game. Either of those guys would’ve been sitting multiple games for that play

  12. Hi opinion won’t matter much.

    A Steeler fan posted a video on the popular online video site with the following title: “DEFLATE GATE & WHY SCIENCE SAYS THE PATRIOTS DID NOT TAMPER WITH FOOTBALLS”

    That video didn’t seem stop countless fools from continuing to believe that air must have been removed from footballs if the PSI numbers are lower than when the footballs were measured indoors.

    The PSI information that the NFL collected during the 2015 NFL season would set the record straight….unfortunately that PSI information is still being hidden from football fans.

  13. LOL

    Translation: I really hoped Goodell would cheat the Pats more to help us.

    Tell us, Ben, what do think Bobby McCain should get? Just the 1 gamer to match Gronk and Smith-Schuster’s egregious infractions?

  14. Oh look Ben Roethlisberger is crying before playing the Pats again. I’ve seen Steelers fans lie and justify that Burfict hit by saying it was a legal play when they damn well know it wasn’t oh and Schuster lied and said he didn’t know who he hit when he taunted Burfict after the play. Roethlisberger knows if Gronk plays the Steelers will get crushed.

  15. I can’t argue too much. JuJu’s hit and taunting, as ugly as it was, did happen during the play. Gronk hit the guy on the ground several seconds after the play was over, and he lined up his shot. I’m not a fan of either team by the way.

  16. Why does a game suspension require losing a paycheck? The player suspended should be given the option to earn back the game check through service or teaching the game to children.

    I definitely agree sitting out a game is an eye opener and should be used more.

  17. bullcharger says:
    December 6, 2017 at 11:44 am
    joetoronto says:
    December 6, 2017 at 11:37 am
    He’s absolutely right, it didn’t even have anything to do with football, it was a wrestling move.
    Rumor has it he did as part of his deal with the WWE.

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    He’s absolutely wrong.

    The punishment is fair in both cases.

    Gronk is a first time offender, that reacted irresponsibly in a moment of frustration and committed a dangerous after the whistle hit on a defenseless player. That deserves 1 game given his track record and the fact that it wasn’t premeditated.

    JuJu intentionally targeted the dirtiest player in the league with a blind side headshot after both teams were warned about this stuff. Then he stood over Burfict to really rub in that he meant to do it. He meant to hurt Burfict. Totally premeditated. Looking for a chance to take his head off. He did it on the field in a football play. One game is fair for that too.

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    Exactly. I think the simple fact that trollish fanbases use faux outrage, but only toward the Pats, proves they are trying to cheat with Goodell.

    Why does it matter how the head was hit and when? It’s the fact there was an avoidable head hit.

    That’s the concept. Nothing more, nothing less.

    So, the fact people are using a bias and trying to categorize for cheating purposes, for their own selfish agenda, is a problem that Goodell is enabling with his “article 46” argument.

    It’s a big reason why the ratings have declined. They know he lies, the fans don’t trust him and there is no fairness or transparency.

    Again, Bobby McCain somehow did not get suspended because it happened the week before Gronk snapped.

    Incredible. Absolutely beyond any logic if their true concerns revolved around CTE and image.

  18. I honestly respect the Steelers organization and fan base but if NE sat Gronk vs Pittsburgh, the Steelers would find something else to complain about. You can’t make a complainer happy. No matter what you do they will move on to the next complainant.

  19. The problem with NFL discipline is that there are no consistent standards for what constitutes a fine, what constitutes a one-game suspension and what constitutes a multiple-game suspension.
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    There is a reason for that. Sure, the league seems to arbitrarily decide which category an infraction falls in and that frustrates players and fans but it was allowed to be that way by the union. There is no way the union would ever agree to a standardized punishment for essentially a judgment call. They fight over the details and neither side will agree on the specifics because the union would demand lenient standards and the league would want harsh ones. When they can’t agree on specifics, we are left with vague standards open for interpretation, a superficial appeal process and weekly fodder for the union to attack the league and fire up their players for the next CBA.

  20. skittlesareyum says:
    December 6, 2017 at 11:48 am
    I can’t argue too much. JuJu’s hit and taunting, as ugly as it was, did happen during the play. Gronk hit the guy on the ground several seconds after the play was over, and he lined up his shot. I’m not a fan of either team by the way.

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    Sure. But, can you explain why Bobby McCain did not get the same punishment as Gronk?

  21. exinsidetrader says:
    December 6, 2017 at 11:42 am
    Big Ben got off easy on a case of sexual assault. He shouldn’t be questioning anyone else’s punishment.

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    True, Ben should be in jail!

  22. It’s about ratings. The NFL isn’t about to suspension Gronk for the Steelers game. Had it been the Browns after Miami, Gronk would’ve got 2 games. One game suspension sitting out against Miami? Yawn.

  23. ZIA Boy says:
    December 6, 2017 at 11:42 am
    I agree. Gronk’s awkward spaz attack is on a different level. Should’ve been 2 games, minimum.

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    What about Bobby McCain’s “spaz attack”? McCain was ejected (rightly so) and no suspension?

    Can any troll just answer why Bobby McCain was not suspended a week before Gronk?

    Mind you, this was 1 week AFTER a Raiders WR threw a punch at CB Jonathan Jones and nothing happened.

    We’ll wait for your explanation……..

  24. Apparently punishment is more harsh based on viewership and the narrative. Steelers played on MNF and the ESPN crew talked up the 2 hits as if it was a game full of illegal activities. They also used as evidence the high penalty yardage even though 2 of the penalties were PI on long passes and a bunch of the usual holding on kick returns.

  25. nhpats says:
    December 6, 2017 at 11:39 am
    What was Mike Tomlin’s punishment for tripping Jacoby Jones?

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    Only a 100K fine, which is nothing for a multi millionaiore. Meanwhile, Gronk is set to lose 281K over this, which is clearly too much.

    Bobby McCain? 9k.

    Umm, WOW.

  26. Aqib Talib is the one we should be talking about here. Talib committed a felony theft not once but twice in stealing Crabtree’s necklace off his person.

    How many games did former Cowboys running back Joseph Randle get for shoplifting, 4 right?

  27. Honestly, I think both guys deserve bigger suspensions, What the hell is happening to the NFL. Lately looks more like the WWE. I’m thru with the WWE, and almost through with the NFL. I’ve come to a realization that I spend too much money on this BS! A commissioner who acts when he shouldn’t…Elliott, Brady and who doesn’t react strongly enough when he should Talb, Smith Schuster, Gronk, Ray Rice and it goes on and on. the players want to disrespect the flag and the country, now we have to watch the WWE on the football field. Some may find that amusing, but what the hell has happened to football? To be honest, College Football is becoming a much more compelling product to me. #screwgoodell #nflisdying

  28. Ben comes off as a clown here. If he thought about it, he would complain that what AJ Green did was worse than either JuJu or Gronk, and AJ only got a fine. NFL disciplines with a dart board approach.

  29. Big Ben: Roger, I know you’be tried helping us out in the past with the fake scandals. But it hasn’t helped us much. Can’t you keep that big scary guy off the field another week?
    Roger: Ben, i’ve tried my best. Now my job is in jeopardy so you’re on your own. Good luck with that!

  30. Lucky ol’ Ben wasn’t pulling his sexual assualt hijinx in todays times or he’d would of been out of the league or in the can years ago.

    Funny stuff

  31. I love great football players and both Gronk and Big Ben are first ballot HOFers. These are two of my favorite players. What Gronk did was ridiculous. He’s lucky he didn’t get four games. What Juju did was ridiculous too. I’m ok with the hit because he had no idea he could put that kind of a whack on a guy that outweighs him by 40 pounds. I hate Burfict, so I’m not feeling any sympathy. But standing over a guy, and taunting him with the game on the line, and home field advantage on the line, was just stupid. If I’m Big Ben or David DeCastro, I’d probably punch him out. What Juju did should have bigger consequences inside his own locker room. What Gronk did, the league needs to deal with. Gronk isn’t a dirty player, but that action needs to be dealt with.

  32. The tenor of it changes when you read reports about the Steelers talking about karma and money for JuJu’s hit. Not defending Gronk but I’d say a premeditated attack is worse.

  33. Fox Sports NFL analyst David Diehl thinks the NFL may be working itself into a shoot when it comes to Rob Gronkowski, brother. Gronkowski received a one-game suspension for an egregious late hit on Buffalo Bills cornerback Tre’Davious White, who had just intercepted a pass from Tom Brady. White was clearly down and out of bounds as well when Gronkowski appeared to intentionally deliver a running splash.

    Asked about the subject on a recent Fox Sports broadcast, Diehl said the attack was premeditated with the intention of building heat and interest for a Gronkowski transition to the pro wrestling business.
    “This was all premeditated,” Diehl said. “I think I’ve the only one thats been talking about this. Earlier last week, Gronkowski was called out by Jinder Mahal, which is a WWE wrestler. Because in WrestleMania 33, Gronk got involved in the match and Jinder Mahal ended up not getting a championship belt.”

    Gronkowski actually cost Mahal the Andre the Giant Battle Royale.
    “Jinder Mahal called him out this week,” Diehl continued. “So social media, all last week, Rob Gronkowski, is he gonna stand up to the challenge? Is he gonna wrestle this guy? And it was back and forth banter throughout the entire week. And right away when this happened during the game, what did everybody see? oh, he pulls a WWE move, he pulls a wrestling move. And there’s a reason why: because he let social media and stuff off of the field affect what he did on the football field.”

    “Number one, you’re not doing it the Patriot way,” Diehl warned. “You’re trying to be an individual. Mark my words. He will not be a New England Patriot next year.”

    Diehl went on to agree with the hosts that the purpose behind the move was to get money outside of the ring by becoming a wrestler.

  34. We know THE Steelers locker room isn’t the most prestigious hub of intellectual activity in America.

    Run for commish if you want to hand out the penalties Ben…

  35. harshedmellow says:
    December 6, 2017 at 11:56 am
    I don’t even understand why the Juju hit wasn’t legal. He was BLOCKING Burfict. It wasn’t a blindside hit. He didn’t spear him.
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    Crack back blocks were made illegal because of the very result that occurred on the field. They injure players who can’t prepare their bodies for a collision. Duh.

  36. The PSI information that the NFL collected during the 2015 NFL season would set the record straight….unfortunately that PSI information is still being hidden from football fans.

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    No, the psi info would incriminate the Patriots even more and Goodell didn’t want to pile on since this is an integrity of the game issue. And no Patriot fan or anyone in the Pats organization has ever explained all the circumstantial evidence and the fact Brady lied and didn’t fully cooperate.

    The spygate tapes were destroyed to protect the Patriots as well.

    Kraft has Goodell’s back. The backlashing by Kraft against Goodell is just showmanship to protect the Pats legacy.

  37. agree completely – but not that JuJu shouldn’t be suspended, (and I’m fine with JuJu’s hit actually, I get it, but the taunting was the problem)

    Gronk needs harsher suspension. Gronk should actually be charged criminally on that play.

  38. Justice is finally being served to the league’s media darlings. Good to see Roger is doing the right thing.

  39. factpurveyor says:

    December 6, 2017 at 11:45 am

    Hi opinion won’t matter much.

    A Steeler fan posted a video on the popular online video site with the following title: “DEFLATE GATE & WHY SCIENCE SAYS THE PATRIOTS DID NOT TAMPER WITH FOOTBALLS”

    That video didn’t seem stop countless fools from continuing to believe that air must have been removed from footballs if the PSI numbers are lower than when the footballs were measured indoors.

    The PSI information that the NFL collected during the 2015 NFL season would set the record straight….unfortunately that PSI information is still being hidden from football fans.
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    I think you guys are better off just letting this thing go. Brady got caught cheating. It might be a dumb rule, and maybe lots of QBs do it, but he got caught. You can find a scientist that will tell you the earth is flat, and you won’t have to look very hard to find him. Brady is an all time great player. Why keep reminding us that he got caught cheating? You’re not doing him any favors.

  40. bullcharger says:
    December 6, 2017 at 11:44 am
    joetoronto says:
    December 6, 2017 at 11:37 am
    He’s absolutely right, it didn’t even have anything to do with football, it was a wrestling move.
    Rumor has it he did as part of his deal with the WWE.

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    He’s absolutely wrong.

    The punishment is fair in both cases.

    Gronk is a first time offender, that reacted irresponsibly in a moment of frustration and committed a dangerous after the whistle hit on a defenseless player. That deserves 1 game given his track record and the fact that it wasn’t premeditated.

    JuJu intentionally targeted the dirtiest player in the league with a blind side headshot after both teams were warned about this stuff. Then he stood over Burfict to really rub in that he meant to do it. He meant to hurt Burfict. Totally premeditated. Looking for a chance to take his head off. He did it on the field in a football play. One game is fair for that too.

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    You’re an idiot if you think what Gronk did wasn’t premeditated and intentional.

  41. Big Ben should just play out his finally year quietly wherein he will have no more Superbowl wins and he can just retire quietly.

    He BARELY got past the Bengals. He won’t get past the Pats!

  42. I’m a Pats fan and I agree with Roethlisberger. Smith-Schuster was over punished. Let’s be honest, the discipline is wildly inconsistent. If Smith-Schuster delivers that hit and doesn’t instantly stand over Burfict taunting it’s doubtful he gets suspended.

  43. Gronk did get punished more harshly.

    He stands to lose anywhere from 250K to 2.5 million depending on missed incentives due to missing a game.

    JJSS lost 29K

  44. The Patriots need special treatment by the nfl in order to be competitive. They have only one championship with a cheating scandal tied to it.

  45. Without Goodellchanging the rules and bending over backwards to cover up their cheating, the patriots would be irrelevant

  46. I’ve said it before Gronk’s suspension was handed down and I’ll say it again. There’s no way the NFL was going to suspend him from playing in the Steelers game being that it’s a prime time match-up for the NFL. That’s your consistency in handing down punishments — whatever the NFL feels benefits them the most.

  47. boothisman says:
    December 6, 2017 at 11:54 am

    Patriots getting passes by the commish is nothing new. Ben is right.
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    Like when the NFL admitted in court that they had no evidence of anyone deflating footballs but then decided to take 1 million dollars…2 draft picks…while forcing the best player to miss 25% of a season.

    False PSI numbers released to the media and not corrected for over a year…despite written requests by the Patriots for the NFL to set the record straight.

    A year long media smear campaign to convince people to deny science.

    Hiding the PSI information that was collected during the 2015 NFL season to perpetuate the farce.

    That’s hardly giving a team a pass.

  48. The pats now know why Gronk did and they aren’t happy, this looks like Gronk’s last year with the Pats.

  49. peytonwantsaflag says:
    December 6, 2017 at 12:10 pm
    agree completely – but not that JuJu shouldn’t be suspended, (and I’m fine with JuJu’s hit actually, I get it, but the taunting was the problem)

    Gronk needs harsher suspension. Gronk should actually be charged criminally on that play.
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    Don’t go there. Every push or fist thrown would now be assault. Montreal supports your punishment, though.

  50. luckyforus says:
    December 6, 2017 at 12:08 pm

    No, the psi info would incriminate the Patriots even more and Goodell didn’t want to pile on since this is an integrity of the game issue.
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    A one page report showing facts could never be called piling on….after the NFL spent millions on lawyers while abusing the court system…along with a year long extremely public media smear campaign….only dedicated patriot haters can convince themselves to deny science while believing that the PSI report would not show footballs deflating all the time when its cold. That is what science says that the data must show. That PSI information would exonerate Brady….and show that the NFL owes the Patriots 2 draft picks. That is why the PSI report is being hidden from football fans.

  51. No way the hit was premeditated. It happened during play trying to perform a block. The taunt, overboard, but that should have no factor in the suspension about a block. He should’ve been fined. Gronk should’ve got 2-4 games and Iloka should’ve been suspended and upheld. JuJu got screwed.

    All the people saying Ben should be in jail obviously don’t know how the legal system works. There wasn’t enough evidence to bring up charges. He served a 4 game suspension for something that couldn’t be proved, your just made because of his success.

  52. joetoronto says:
    December 6, 2017 at 12:06 pm
    Fox Sports NFL analyst David Diehl thinks the NFL may be working itself into a shoot when it comes to Rob Gronkowski, brother. Gronkowski received a one-game suspension for an egregious late hit on Buffalo Bills cornerback Tre’Davious White, who had just intercepted a pass from Tom Brady. White was clearly down and out of bounds as well when Gronkowski appeared to intentionally deliver a running splash.
    Asked about the subject on a recent Fox Sports broadcast, Diehl said the attack was premeditated with the intention of building heat and interest for a Gronkowski transition to the pro wrestling business.
    “This was all premeditated,” Diehl said. “I think I’ve the only one thats been talking about this. Earlier last week, Gronkowski was called out by Jinder Mahal, which is a WWE wrestler. Because in WrestleMania 33, Gronk got involved in the match and Jinder Mahal ended up not getting a championship belt.”
    Gronkowski actually cost Mahal the Andre the Giant Battle Royale.
    “Jinder Mahal called him out this week,” Diehl continued. “So social media, all last week, Rob Gronkowski, is he gonna stand up to the challenge? Is he gonna wrestle this guy? And it was back and forth banter throughout the entire week. And right away when this happened during the game, what did everybody see? oh, he pulls a WWE move, he pulls a wrestling move. And there’s a reason why: because he let social media and stuff off of the field affect what he did on the football field.”
    “Number one, you’re not doing it the Patriot way,” Diehl warned. “You’re trying to be an individual. Mark my words. He will not be a New England Patriot next year.”
    Diehl went on to agree with the hosts that the purpose behind the move was to get money outside of the ring by becoming a wrestler.

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    Diehl is a fool. It was pretty clear it was a reaction to what happened on the field. Gronk had an outstanding game up to that point and was obviously frustrated that the holding on that play caused a INT for Brady. He then reacted. Sure, it looked like a wrestling move, but he was giving a shot to the guy that was holding him. Not trying to show off to WWE fans online. Mark my words. Gronk will be with the Patriots next year.

  53. charliecharger says:
    December 6, 2017 at 12:11 pm

    Brady got caught cheating.
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    Comments from Patriot detractors often demonstrate that Patriot detractors are constrained to the parroting of lame and tired “cheating” nonsense, abounding from an inexhaustible reservoir of stupidity.

    Science says that footballs dropped PSI because it was cold outside. It happened again during that 2016 week 13 game where the Steelers beat the Giants. The the Giants were also looking for an excuse for losing…the Giants tested the Steelers footballs on the sidelines and they measured below league minimum of 12.5 PSI. Science is consistent like that.

  54. Pats fans: The league is out to get us!!!! Gronkowski was railroaded. He is a good guy. It is his first offense, he was being held, etc.

    By most of the Pats fans reasoning in the Gronkowski affair, if Suh is held in the next game, he is ok to lay a hit after the play on Brady like Gronk did on White. Right Pats fans?

  55. The spygate tapes were destroyed to protect the Patriots as well.
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    I saw them. As did millions of other fans. They broadcast them on a loop all day the day they were released. You can probably find them on youtube if you looked.

    It’s just the play, then a shot of the scoreboard then back to the coaches making hand signals. Exactly what you’d expect to see. If you think you are going to see a Yeti, you will be disappointed.

  56. Why is it that the Steelers, a team BARELY beating lesser opponents, can never seem to keep their mouths shut and just play the game? Yes, Gronk messed up, but what Smith- Schuster did was just as bad. You haven’t heard a word about it from the Patriots, and you won’t. They do their talking on the field.

  57. I agree. Last week players were just fined for taunting. This week it’s a suspension. What the hell is going on Roger?

  58. What Gronk did was criminal & should be prosecuted for assault. JuJu on the other hand just placed a block in the coarse of a play, a block that was wholly legal until Leftist Liberals assumed control of the NFL Rule Books. The same punishment is just plain stupid…

  59. Why is it that the Steelers, a team BARELY beating lesser opponents, can never seem to keep their mouths shut and just play the game? Yes, Gronk messed up, but what Smith- Schuster did was just as bad. You haven’t heard a word about it from the Patriots, and you won’t. They do their talking on the field.

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    So I guess Gronk was just talking….huh. Homers are stupid.

  60. The title of the post is not what Roethlisberger said. He actually indicated JuJu should have gotten a lighter penalty than he did. You guys can’t help yourself when it comes to the Pat’s.

  61. His own brand of industrial justice.
    Any fines or suspensions for the unwritten rule of D-line not being able to shift at the same time to mess up the O line…or radio signals getting crossed?
    Every battle is won or lost before it is fought.
    Ben & Pitt have already lost to NE.

  62. Bengals fan here agreeing that Gronk should get harsher discipline. The hit alone by the stealer Juju doesn’t merit a suspension but with the taunting it is borderline. Whereas, Gronk’s version of the people’s elbow should be multiple game…

  63. Like when the NFL admitted in court that they had no evidence of anyone deflating footballs but then decided to take 1 million dollars…2 draft picks…while forcing the best player to miss 25% of a season.

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    The NFL said they had no DIRECT evidence but they had plenty of CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence

  64. So I guess Gronk was just talking….huh. Homers are stupid.

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    I said that what Gronk did was inexcusable. Roethlisberger is the one who won’t shut up about it. Is he dreading playing the Pats with Gronk? I think so…

  65. God Bless America says:
    December 6, 2017 at 12:15 pm

    The Patriots need special treatment by the nfl in order to be competitive. They have only one championship with a cheating scandal tied to it.
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    So, they need fines and a suspension and draft picks taken away in order to win Super Bowls?

    Which Super Bowl win had a cheating scandal tied to it?

  66. tayalejandro says:

    December 6, 2017 at 1:00 pm

    Bengals fan here agreeing that Gronk should get harsher discipline. The hit alone by the stealer Juju doesn’t merit a suspension but with the taunting it is borderline. Whereas, Gronk’s version of the people’s elbow should be multiple game…

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    Uh, Bengals fans should be very grateful AJ Green only got a fine. What he did was MUCH worse than what Gronk or JuJu did.

  67. Sorry Ben. I’m stuck on Brady getting 4 for air pressure while Gronk gets 1 for a potentially paralyzing blow to the head of a guy on the ground. Doesn’t pass the smell test!!

  68. JuJu’s block was a block! Meaning he wasn’t hitting Dirt-fect just to hit him. He was trying to get more yards for Bell. Believe me nobody is feeling too sympathetic that the dirtiest filthy football player was laid out by a rookie. Was it necessary? For more yardage on the play yes. To beat the Bengals no. The Steelers always end up doing that regardless. Ice up ! Marvin Lewis you have my vote for returning in 2018!

  69. OMG. I can’t believe he said that. How stupid. Who made him the arbiter of justice? Is he not aware of his own teams history? How unbelievably stupid.

  70. League needs to issue a statement that all forms of taunting will now be 1 game minimum suspension. All late hits on QBs will now be 1 game suspensions. All personal fouls will be reviewed for possible suspensions. All defenseless hits on receivers will now be 1 game suspensions. Stop the hitting and take the contact out of this violent sport. Isn’t that what we are trying to achieve? Not long before it’s a totally different sport.

  71. truthdispensary says:

    December 6, 2017 at 12:40 pm

    What Gronk did was criminal & should be prosecuted for assault. JuJu on the other hand just placed a block in the coarse of a play, a block that was wholly legal until Leftist Liberals assumed control of the NFL Rule Books. The same punishment is just plain stupid…

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    must be a Montreal Canadiens fan. And you can’t call something “wholly legal” if its clearly not legal.

  72. Keep crying Ben. Only reason why he thinks it should be harsher on Gronk is because he doesn’t want him on the field when he plays the Patriots. Sorry Ben not going to save you from getting massacred

  73. Tashan Harrison says:
    December 6, 2017 at 12:12 pm
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    You’re an idiot if you think what Gronk did wasn’t premeditated and intentional.
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    I guess you are smarter than everyone…because you figured out that Gronk allowed the interception…so that he could make the late hit.

    The rest of us believe that Gronk could not have planned a hit ahead of time…since he doesn’t play defense. He didn’t think about it much…which is why he did it.

  74. joetoronto says:
    December 6, 2017 at 12:23 pm
    The pats now know why Gronk did and they aren’t happy, this looks like Gronk’s last year with the Pats

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    Gronk is still under contract. And sadly for you and the Raiders, so is Derek “can’t win a big game” Carr!!

  75. What is it about JuJu’s hit that is “wrong?’ As a football guy, thats a crack back block I grew up with. I understand the Hines Ward Rule, and the NFL is now deeming it “illegal” but what is so “wrong” about it??

    1. He stood over him, ala Lebron James or Blake Griffin when they dunk on somebody.
    2. If he doesnt block Burfict, he makes the tackle.
    3. Keep your head on a swivel

  76. luckyforus says:
    December 6, 2017 at 12:08 pm

    Goodell didn’t want to pile on since this is an integrity of the game issue.
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    Hiding information after preaching about “integrity” and pledging “transparency” isn’t a good look.

    Everyone with at least 3 working brain cells already knows that the PSI information would contradict Roger Goodell and his football deflating farce.

  77. As someone who barely received a slap on the wrist for unbelievably disgusting behavior, Roethlisberger should keep his big mouth shut.

  78. Ben’s right in that JuJu was playing between the whistles. I still can’t figure out what Gronk was doing. But this is what happens when you have no set standard for what will and won’t receive a suspension and allow a commissioner to just decide these things according to his personal whims.

  79. nhpats says:
    December 6, 2017 at 11:54 am
    exinsidetrader says:
    December 6, 2017 at 11:42 am
    Big Ben got off easy on a case of sexual assault. He shouldn’t be questioning anyone else’s punishment.

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    True, Ben should be in jail!

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    Wouldn’t he have to be convicted of something for that to happen? Or do you just want Roger Dodger to handle the legal system as well?

  80. tylawspick6 says:
    December 6, 2017 at 11:53 am
    skittlesareyum says:
    December 6, 2017 at 11:48 am
    I can’t argue too much. JuJu’s hit and taunting, as ugly as it was, did happen during the play. Gronk hit the guy on the ground several seconds after the play was over, and he lined up his shot. I’m not a fan of either team by the way.

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    Sure. But, can you explain why Bobby McCain did not get the same punishment as Gronk?

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    I wasn’t even familiar with that incident. Like I said, I’m not a fan (but I don’t hate) of either team. That being said, I won’t attempt to guess how the NFL decides on its discipline. Dart board?

  81. The Steelers are a whiny group aren’t they. I wonder if Mike Tomlin will report that his locker room and office were bugged again. Oh , wait a minute, the game is in Pittsburgh. Mike you wouldn’t be that idiotic would you?

    Mike?

    Mr. Tomlin?

    Coach?

  82. If Da Gronk’s punishment were extended he might miss the game against the Steelers. (He owned it he apologized for it)

    Could this have something to do with what Big Ben is saying?

    Naaah

    Cynical cynical me

  83. You ppl throwing the “Ben got off for sexual assault” argument out are plain stupid. Ben’s sexual assault case was unfounded. The girl who accused him of it actually was charged with filing a false statement. And, I agree that Gronk’s suspension should be greater than JuJu’s. JuJu should absolutely be suspended for taunting. His hit however, was a bang bang play, and if you slow it down, was actually legal (shoulder to chest). Gronk lost his damn mind and dropped an atomic elbow on a defenseless player laying on the ground. If you can’t see a difference in severity there, then your nothing more than a biased fan who can’t set aside a hatred for one team. Furthermore, the fact that George Iioka’s suspension was over turned is even more frustrating. A blatant helmet to helmet hit on Antonio Brown that was flagged unsportsmanlike just like JuJus hit was. But he gets no suspension? Bottom line, the NFL has no idea what they are doing as far as the rules. Its sickening

  84. Big Ben is worried they might not win without JuJu. On the other hand, the Pats won the SB without Gronk. Maybe the NFL reviewed the film and saw how the referees messed up too. Gronk took the effort of changing his style of playing a bit to prevent the referees call against him, but they still judge him by effect of his size to those who cover him. His stupid action is inexcusable. Ben should accept his teammates punishment. JuJu gloated while Burfict was down. That was sick.

  85. steelcurtainn says:
    December 6, 2017 at 11:44 am
    Big Ben’s right. It’s not even close to being fair. JUJU should have been fined. Gronk should of got even a harsher penalty. I hope that big goofball gets what’s coming to him. Karma!
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    He will. I’m guessing 165 yds/2 TDs

  86. steelcurtainn says:
    December 6, 2017 at 11:44 am
    Big Ben’s right. It’s not even close to being fair. JUJU should have been fined. Gronk should of got even a harsher penalty. I hope that big goofball gets what’s coming to him. Karma!
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    The NFL owes the Pats 4 games for BS deflate gate. Maybe the Patriots just got gifted one of those

  87. The number of people trying to excuse what Gronk did is unbelievable. He gave the guy a freakin’ concussion. That’s instantly worse than anything JuJu or Bobby McCain or Aqib Talib or anybody else who want to point the finger at did.

  88. ak185 says:
    December 7, 2017 at 5:23 am
    The number of people trying to excuse what Gronk did is unbelievable. He gave the guy a freakin’ concussion. That’s instantly worse than anything JuJu or Bobby McCain or Aqib Talib or anybody else who want to point the finger at did.
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    No he didn’t. White cleared concussion protocol and has been practicing all week. Whereas Berfect does have a concussion and is out indefinitely. Gronk’s hit was reactionary and out of frustration whereas JuJu’s assault was premeditated. If you listen to his interview in the locker room after the game, you can hear some discussions about money, karma, and a ‘payday.’ AKA a bounty…

  89. Steelers’ fan here, and a couple of things:
    1. Gronk’s hit deserved a harsher penalty, as it was after the play.
    2. JuJu’s hit was during the process of a play and while maybe illegal, shouldn’t have warranted a suspension. The taunting afterwards, is what made this play suspension worthy.

    At the end of the day, the league is responsible for the circus that is the disciplinary actions.

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