Plenty of factors complicate Aaron Rodgers’ potential return

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As the Packers wait for final word from team doctors as to whether quarterback Aaron Rodgers will receive clearance to play on Sunday against the Panthers, several factors will drive the final decision. Let’s consider them, shall we?

1. Rodgers’ health: When he broke his collarbone on the left side four years ago, Rodgers went eight weeks between games. This time, he will have had a nine-week gap between games, if he returns on Sunday. That’s encouraging in isolation, but hardly dispositive. The real question is whether the bone, with 13 screws and a couple of plates, sufficiently has healed to allow Rodgers to play without significant risk of re-injury.

2. Medical input: Dr. Pat McKenzie will have a major role in deciding whether Rodgers will play. And despite his very good reputation for caring about players, the conflict of interest for doctors paid by teams to treat players is very real, as evidenced by the move to independent neurologists to determine when players can return from concussions. Two years ago, Cowboys doctors cleared Tony Romo to return from a broken collarbone — and he re-broke his collarbone in his second game back. There’s a subtle pressure to get Rodgers back on the field, regardless of whether McKenzie is actually influenced by it. For most teams, the truth remains that, if their doctors won’t give players the green light to play, the teams eventually will find doctors who will.

3. The team’s playoff chances: Rodgers said in early November that he’d return if he’s healthy AND if “it would make sense to come back.” So does it make sense to come back? At 7-6 and currently ninth in the NFC playoff picture, they need help in the form of one or more losses by the Seahawks and the Falcons in the final three weeks.

4. Perceptions of toughness: Four years ago, ESPN reported that Rodgers’ perceived toughness was a factor in when he’d return from a broken collarbone, given comparisons to his never-miss-a-game predecessor in Green Bay. Will those ghosts of Favre drive Rodgers to come back even if he risks re-breaking the bone?

5. Rodgers’ contract: Nearly five years ago, Rodgers reached the top of the quarterback market, with a $22 million-per-year deal. He now trails the likes of Matthew Stafford ($27 million), Derek Carr ($25 million), Andrew Luck ($24.5 million), and Joe Flacco ($22.1 million). Rodgers is clearly and obviously better than each of them, and yet the Packers haven’t done the right thing and given him a new deal. So without the financial protection that a franchise with no owner to line his pockets with profits should have given to its franchise quarterback, why should he put his health at risk unnecessarily? While Rodgers is smart enough not to ever mention this dynamic privately or publicly, he’s plenty smart enough to be aware of it. If the Packers were smart, they’d have signed him to a new deal by now.

Regardless of those factors, the thinking remains that Rodgers will be back this weekend against the Panthers. If he’s not, one of more of these factors will have decisively influenced the delicate play-or-no-play balance.

111 responses to “Plenty of factors complicate Aaron Rodgers’ potential return

  1. rumor has it he wants out of turd nation for a chance for a superbowl…. turd town looks as if the whole thing will be blown up and hitting the restart button.

  2. “If the Packers were smart, they’d have signed him to a new deal by now.”

    You’re talking about tightwad Ted here…

  3. It’s in Rodgers and the Packers fan base best interest for him to sit.

    Even If McCarthy was allowed within 500 feet of a school (he isn’t) I still wouldn’t even let him coach my kids highschool team.

    Ted Thompson needs to go, get a GM who isn’t afraid to make splash moves and be aggressive. He’s rostering one of the best QB’s in the history of the league, and for some reason he’s always planning for the future.

  4. Please let him come back. No greater Christmas present than seeing that arrogant diva laying on the ground in pain.

  5. “If the Packers were smart, they’d have signed him to a new deal by now.”

    Before the injury yes I can see your point. But since his injury there is no way you offer a contract with top QB size salary to a player who is injured.

  6. It is in Rodgers best interest to play him. He doesn’t have unlimited football seasons – every one counts – including this one. His collarbone doesn’t have the clause that it can only heal once and then it done. if it gets banged up it will heal over the offseason. The docs says a bone will heal 80% quite rapidly. The other 20% takes months.

  7. He should not come back. This team is trash without him & they aren’t really good enough to compete for a SB even with him. He should wait it out & put pressure on the FO to bring in some talent.

  8. Looks like Vike fans are starting to get worried about even winning the division behind that leaky offensive line. They are on track to collapse even worse than last year.

    #TodayAaronGotBetter

  9. So the Packers should have torn up their current contract with Rodgers and given him all the money in the world just because other guys make more? That would be insane—a GM’s while job is to acquire talent and stay under the salary cap. And it’s a CONTRACT, they go two ways.

  10. Your fear is palpable… and delicious. I can’t wait to top it off with the customary barrels full of purple tears. Let’s face it, every little football dream you’ve ever had has been smashed by the Packers. Every single one. The higher you’ve hopped, the more humiliating your inevitable heartache has been… and you’ve been hopping to all-new highs (lows) since Rodgers went out.

    The only thing different about this year’s pipe dream is that ALL your excuses have been taken away. No Rodgers for at least 7+ games… injuries all over the O-line and defensive backfield… two rookies carrying the load at RB. If Lavender Larry can’t steal a division title under these circumstances, it’s time to finally admit it… the Packers own you.

  11. “Rodgers is clearly and obviously better than each of them, and yet the Packers haven’t done the right thing and given him a new deal.”

    Rodgers isn’t complaining. The fans aren’t complaining. So what’s the big deal?

  12. Maybe Rodgers wants to leave some more money on the table to put a better team around him, much like Brady does? Some players want championships more than trying to get every possible cent out of a team. It’s not like the guy needs another $100,000,000.

  13. No greater Christmas present than seeing that arrogant diva laying on the ground in pain.
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    The purples are spewing their usual venom. You know it’s funny, we see them post about the Packers in our stories and post about the Packers in the Viking stories, but we rarely see them actually post about the Vikings. Your team must be proud to have such loyal fans.

    Seems that your energy could be put towards something more positive, but if this is all you guys have, I won’t hate.

  14. The article does not mention how conservative Ted Thompson is. Also, unlike some teams, they do not have an owner convicted of fraud. He won’t be let on the field unless they’re sure.

  15. Joe Buck needs him back. He’s just not the same irritating announcer without his special Aaron Rodgers on the field. He’s probably in touch with the doctors today.

  16. Joe Flacco making $22M a year makes negotiating a QB deal with anyone who has ever thrown an NFL touchdown impossible. All agents can point to look at this guy, he a bottom 3 QB in the NFL and is making $22M a year. Mohammed Sanu might be able to negotiate $15M a year as a back up QB/WR.

  17. “If the Packers were smart, they’d have signed him to a new deal by now.”

    Maybe the Packers ( including AR) are smart. Dont see Brady or Rivers on that list. Maybe because that money is better spent now elsewhere. Even though the TT has been a little too tight in letting some good guys leave – Hyde et al. But AR will get his money and just look what Stafford’s big bucks has gotten the Lions – oh I forgot they are still the Lousy losing Lions with the Millen Albatross hanging out in the background.

  18. Even If McCarthy was allowed within 500 feet of a school (he isn’t) I still wouldn’t even let him coach my kids highschool team.
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    I pray he lands with the Lions, Bears of Vikings.

  19. A superstar sells tickets.

    A broken superstar sells insurance and hope.

    A retired superstar sells pizza and insurance.

    Rogers’ collarbone is almost irrelevant as he enters the celebrity phase of his career. Even with the best results, a couple of more wins in a losing season won’t change his trajectory.

  20. He won’t play. You can’t play football with that hardware in your shoulder. It’s a sham by the team to keep selling tickets. There’s no way they would risk his career for a slim to none chance at the playoffs.

  21. Here’s another factor: Rodgers’ courage.

    Last time the Packers played Carolina, they had a chance to tie the game near the end but Rodgers threw an interception while under a heavy rush. When asked what happened after the game, Rodgers said, “I got scared.”

    If he was scared then, how is he going to feel going against the Panthers in the first game back after breaking a bone? And how is he going to feel the next week going against the team that put him on IR in the first place?

  22. they need help in the form of one or more losses by the Seahawks and the Falcons in the final three weeks.
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    If the Packers win out and Seattle loses another game and Carolina loses an additional game the Packers would be in.

  23. aarons444 says:
    December 12, 2017 at 2:13 pm
    Even If McCarthy was allowed within 500 feet of a school (he isn’t) I still wouldn’t even let him coach my kids highschool team.
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    I pray he lands with the Lions, Bears of Vikings.
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    Never gonna happen in Minnesota. They value Knowledge and Leadership in a HC, something McCarthy knows nothing about. Zimmer will be here for a very long time.

  24. Carl Gerbschmidt says:
    December 12, 2017 at 1:57 pm

    Looks like Vike fans are starting to get worried about even winning the division behind that leaky offensive line. They are on track to collapse even worse than last year.
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    Really? On what possible basis can you make those statements?

    Man, I hope Rodgers comes back so you people can see what your team really is. By the way, has Aaron seen your leaky offensive line?

  25. pkrlvr says:
    December 12, 2017 at 2:06 pm
    No greater Christmas present than seeing that arrogant diva laying on the ground in pain.
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    The purples are spewing their usual venom. You know it’s funny, we see them post about the Packers in our stories and post about the Packers in the Viking stories, but we rarely see them actually post about the Vikings. Your team must be proud to have such loyal fans.

    Seems that your energy could be put towards something more positive, but if this is all you guys have, I won’t hate.
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    Keep telling yourself that and maybe some day it will come true. You fair weather GB fans are the first ones to post in a Vikings thread.

  26. milkcan44 says:
    December 12, 2017 at 2:07 pm
    The article does not mention how conservative Ted Thompson is. Also, unlike some teams, they do not have an owner convicted of fraud. He won’t be let on the field unless they’re sure.
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    Actually, I bet they have dozens (or hundreds) of “owners” convicted of all kinds of offenses.

  27. They’ll take care of Rodgers when the time comes and he’ll be the highest paid guy again. The only person that makes an issue out of it is Florio at Pro Football Talk.

  28. I wouldnt mind them shutting him down – I wouldnt mind Mac saying one more week and we will rescan. I think that he can play injured and will play differently – hope MM will not let him get sacked by unimpeded guys like what happened to Hundley – however maybe Hundley missed something at the line of scrimmage. I dont think we have a realistic chance at making the playoffs – I just want to see him play against the whining Vikings and beat their butts.

  29. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    December 12, 2017 at 1:58 pm

    Your fear is palpable… and delicious. I can’t wait to top it off with the customary barrels full of purple tears. Let’s face it, every little football dream you’ve ever had has been smashed by the Packers. Every single one. The higher you’ve hopped, the more humiliating your inevitable heartache has been… and you’ve been hopping to all-new highs (lows) since Rodgers went out.
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    Please explain how every football dream a Viking fan has ever had has been smashed by the Packers. Did the Packers beat the Vikings in any Super Bowls? Did the Packers beat the Vikings in any NFC championship games? Are you so obsessed with the Vikings that you’ve deluded yourself into actually believing the Packers have done anything to prevent the Vikings from winning a Super Bowl? Do you actually believe that the Packers will play any part in derailing the Vikings this year? That is a truly stunning level of obsession and delusion.

  30. “So without the financial protection that a franchise with no owner to line his pockets with profits should have given to its franchise quarterback, why should he put his health at risk unnecessarily?”

    I thought the stock holders were all owners.

  31. Seems like there’s just barely too much in the way of his return making sense. To have such a remote long-shot chance to make the playoffs at all, and to not control your destiny in doing so, is tough. The chance of re-injury in any potential playoff game, with those strong defenses, is high.

    Better to take the time to heal properly and get that 1-2 spot increase in the draft.

    Can’t understand why Packers ownership has done so little to build a better team around him. They’re squandering an incredible talent.

  32. mjchockey1 says:
    December 12, 2017 at 2:28 pm
    We all know the team the Vikings would least want to play in the playoffs is a Packers team lead by Rodgers going up against Case Keenum!
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    Actually, no. That was Keenum’s first of many wins this season. And our defense loves going through that Swiss Cheese OL and hitting Eryn. Just ask his Collarbone, it will tell you.

  33. Do not compare GB to the Jerry Jones “Greg Hardy, Zeke Idiot” win at any cost Cowboys…That team is a true example of what is wrong w/ the NFL…JJ would sell his soul for another ring.

  34. The Almighty Cabbage
    Dec 12, 2017, 1:58 PM EST
    Your fear is palpable… and delicious. I can’t wait to top it off with the customary barrels full of purple tears. Let’s face it, every little football dream you’ve ever had has been smashed by the Packers. Every single one. The higher you’ve hopped, the more humiliating your inevitable heartache has been… and you’ve been hopping to all-new highs (lows) since Rodgers went out.

    The only thing different about this year’s pipe dream is that ALL your excuses have been taken away. No Rodgers for at least 7+ games… injuries all over the O-line and defensive backfield… two rookies carrying the load at RB. If Lavender Larry can’t steal a division title under these circumstances, it’s time to finally admit it… the Packers own you.

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    Talk about delusional. There have been maybe 3 times I thought the Vikings had a shot at the SB as a Viking fan in the last 25 years or so. In 98, Gary Anderson and the Falcons ruined that. In 2000, the Giants 41-0 ruined the second. In 09, fumbles and Favre and the Saints ruined the third. Can’t say I recall a season where the Vikings had a legit shot in a year where the Packers were even competitive, let alone better (I remember fun times playing GB in 98 and 09 specifically).

    Back on topic, however, I don’t see Rodgers rushing back this week against the Panthers. It’s pretty obvious the Packers are not a serious threat in the miracle event they somehow won a wild card seed. That coupled with the potential for a worse injury/potential to effect next year when everyone has an even shot again. It’s one thing to lead a game winning drive against a middling team like the Cowboys in the regular season, but the Packers have no business playing the other playoff caliber teams in the NFC this season. The Panthers this week should be a good example of that.

    There’s already going to be a deserving NFC team that misses the playoffs. You’ve got the Vikings and Eagles (and no guarantee either is in the top two in three weeks, but these seem like the top 2 complete NFC teams), then you’ve only got four spots for these five teams: Seahawks, Rams, Saints, Panthers, Falcons.

  35. pretty lame to mention “financial security” when discussing a player who, a few short years ago, was the highest paid athlete the sport has ever seen. he’s financially secure beyond his wildest needs. This is a question of health and nothing more. The dude is an apex competitor and would play given clearance.

  36. For you to insinuate that Dr McKenzie could be influenced into bringing him back no 100% healthy is below lie, to insinuate that if he doesn’t clear Rodgers the Packets could find doctors who would clear him is way way below low……good journalism has disappeared in the country n favor of the hype and the false narrative to drive a story…..you should be ashamed of yourself……

  37. mjchockey1 says:
    December 12, 2017 at 2:28 pm
    We all know the team the Vikings would least want to play in the playoffs is a Packers team lead by Rodgers going up against Case Keenum!

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    First you have to win 3 games and get some help. Then you have to go on the road and win a playoff game, most likely two as to play the Vikings as the 8 seed it would have to be in the NFC title game.

    Once you get through that, you should take a look at what your offense has done at US Bank stadium with or without your arrogant QB. You never know what can happen, but in my list of worries which starts with the health of our OL, playing GB’s crappy D in the playoffs isn’t even a blip on our radar.

  38. As winning out is unlikely, with or without Rodgers, and doesn’t even mean that Pack makes playoffs, simply wait a week and have all the same conversations as the playoff opportunities may clarify.

  39. 1. The packers need a miracle to get into the playoffs. If Atlanta wins this week against Tampa, it’s even harder.

    2. Aaron should want a pay day. He has proven that GB is nothing without him and he can be the highest paid player in history. Why risk multi millions at this point.

    He won’t play this week. It’s the smart decision on his part.

  40. Another consideration is how good is this team? I like the Pack, Rodgers is fantastic, but IMO this team is not going to Super Bowl in any scenario. With Rodgers at his best they would have to win twice in Minnesota, LA, and/or Philly to justify the risk. 2017 Pack not a very good team outside of qb position. They aren’t going to Super Bowl this year. Sure the playoffs would be better, more interesting for us fans if they sneak in, but they are not going to SB so don’t risk the franchise.

  41. OK, Ill admit it. I fully recognize that the only reason we have this chance is because Barr put a cheap shot on Rodgers and I pray he doesnt come back because I know he will crush our dreams again as he does every year. We should still make the playoffs though either way and thats huge progress for us though so Im still excited. sort of. I know we’re gonna lose though. We always do.

  42. I’m not a doctor, but I believe that a history of having broken both collarbones means his head may just pop clear off like a Lego figure. I think we all know what happened to Randy Savage in Wrestlemania V.

  43. 4 & 5 are ridiculous. He will get paid no matter if he comes back this season or not. AND how have the packers not done the right thing?? He signed a contract and they had him honor that…pretty sure both sides have done the right thing.

  44. Vike fans comments on this story are downright embarrassing. Let’s show a little class Vike fans, there are about 10 things that need to go the right way for the Packers to even make the playoffs. Comments like the above make it look like we’re actually worried about that.

  45. Never gonna happen in Minnesota. They value Knowledge and Leadership in a HC, something McCarthy knows nothing about. Zimmer will be here for a very long time.
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    Hey, a guy can dream, can’t he?

    This is ‘Merca, isn’t it??!!

  46. I think the playoff scenario above is slightly inaccurate – if the Panthers were to lose to GB and also lose one more, and GB won out, then I believe GB would be in.

    Anyway, I think he should probably sit. This team’s not good enough to win it all – the fault of TT, MM, and DC, and all three should pay the price in the offseason. There’s no point in risking further injury when this team is never going to make a deep playoff run.

  47. Carl Gerbschmidt says:

    December 12, 2017 at 1:57 pm

    Looks like Vike fans are starting to get worried about even winning the division behind that leaky offensive line. They are on track to collapse even worse than last year.

    #TodayAaronGotBetter

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    Actually the Vikings (at least before last week) was tied for the O-line that has allowed the least sacks this season. So it is not “leaky” but actually a strength for the team. This year the VIkings have the #5th ranked offense and #5th ranked defense.

    And we are not worried. In case you noticed the Vikings are pretty good this year and a balanced team. We have beaten several other teams who will be in the playoffs. We have beaten the Saints, Ravens, Falcons, Lions (All teams you lost to, even with Rodgers you lost to the Falcons).

    Us Vikings fans think we have a good team and we want to see how it fares against a Packer team with Aaron Rodgers. you always want your team to play the best. It’s a good measuring stick.

  48. ktoast says:
    December 12, 2017 at 2:43 pm
    pretty lame to mention “financial security” when discussing a player who, a few short years ago, was the highest paid athlete the sport has ever seen. he’s financially secure beyond his wildest needs.
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    Serious question.

    If you could make $20 million a year or $25 million a year which would you choose?

    To put it in real terms for us peasants:
    If you could make $50,000 a year or $62,500 a year, which would you choose?

    We all know the answer.
    It would be a bad business decision for Rodgers to risk millions over a miracle scenario.

    In fact, Rodgers should demand a re-negotiation of his contract in April.

  49. mjchockey1 says:
    December 12, 2017 at 2:28 pm
    We all know the team the Vikings would least want to play in the playoffs is a Packers team lead by Rodgers going up against Case Keenum!

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    First of all Rodgers goes up against our defense. Not Case. And our defense is in the top #5.

    Also, Case has been good this year. The only QB with a higher QBR is Tom Brady. Our offense is #5 in the league. Adam Theilin and Diggs are one of the best Duo’s this year. If you actually paid attention to the stats, not the name, Case has been very good.

  50. The Almighty Cabbage says:

    December 12, 2017 at 1:58 pm

    Your fear is palpable… and delicious. I can’t wait to top it off with the customary barrels full of purple tears. Let’s face it, every little football dream you’ve ever had has been smashed by the Packers. Every single one. The higher you’ve hopped, the more humiliating your inevitable heartache has been… and you’ve been hopping to all-new highs (lows) since Rodgers went out.

    The only thing different about this year’s pipe dream is that ALL your excuses have been taken away. No Rodgers for at least 7+ games… injuries all over the O-line and defensive backfield… two rookies carrying the load at RB. If Lavender Larry can’t steal a division title under these circumstances, it’s time to finally admit it… the Packers own you.

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    except they don’t in recent years. In the past 4 years we have split with you 3 of them, and won a division title (soon two).

  51. Carolina ends your season Sunday. It’s not even a question. Maybe then you guys will shut up.( yeah right) You’ll all be pulling for a Vikings train wreck.

    And you accuse Vikings fans of obsessing over the packers….

  52. The Packers aren’t the ones that have crushed all your dreams? Well then allow me to apologize… but in my defense, it was an easy error to make. I mean let’s be real here… you’ve been crying about the Packers nonstop since the very first day the Vikings sputtered into existence.

    “The league is on their side.”

    “The refs let them get away with stuff.”

    “There’s a curse.”

    “If they didn’t have Starr, they’d never win anything.”

    “If they didn’t have Favre, they’d never win anything.”

    “If they didn’t have Rodgers, they’d never win anything.”

    On and on and on, again and again and again, world without end, amen.

    So 56 years of nonstop crying has been over nothing? Whoa. That’s creepy, alright… but you still can’t make us love you.

  53. I am and have been a GB fan for years and own a share of its worthless stock. I love AR and what he has brought to the table for the Green Bay Packers. There is NOT ONE fan out there who wouldn’t want him to the the QB of his team. Eat your hearts out, folks.

    Having said this, if I were AR, I would walk into Ted Thompson’s office at the end of the season and tell him that I’ve played my last down for GB. Why? Because Ted Thompson is an uninspiring skinflint, who himself was an undrafted free agent – – – which is almost certainly why he likes undrafted free agents so much. Rodgers will NEVER win another SB for so long as TT is the General Manager of GB. Of course, TT is enabled by Mark Murphy, the Team President. These two have squandered away the prime years of AR. Shame on them!

    Rodgers has enough clout so he could demand a trade. Assuming that GB will treat him the way they treated Brett Favre, they’ll let him go and then proceed to tank in the same manner as they tanked in the 80’s.

    I’d hate to see you go, Aaron, but you need to do so if you want another ring.

    Thanks for everything.

  54. Even if Rodgers comes back and throws for 4 TDs a game, they’d still lose because their defense will give up 5.

    They let Kizer throw for 3 tds…and needed the Browns to summon their inner brownness multiple times to squeak out an OT victory. You think anyone is scared of the Packers after that performance?

    LOLZ

  55. Bottom line is that Rodgers’ collarbone is only 80% or so healed, and the Packers have less than 10% chance of making the playoffs, with or without Rodgers.

  56. He HAS to play. The team went 3-5 without him. And those 3 wins came against teams that are combined 8-31. And two of those wins took OT to get! This team will go 0-3 without him the final three weeks.

  57. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    December 12, 2017 at 3:37 pm
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    Your team just might have a chance at getting your QB back and somehow making the playoffs. So, what is it that’s on your mind? The Minnesota Vikings. Man, there are a couple of you guys here that just can’t focus on your own team, when the article is about your own team! So strange.

  58. Come on, the NFL and NFCN are better with Rodgers playing – I hope he fully recovers. Having said that, he’s not fully healed, 80% healed creates legit chances for a recurrence, they play 2 tough D’s the next 2 weeks, and any realistic playoff chances are on life support. Just doesnt make sense from 10,000 feet, but who said the media and cheesers are objective? If he wants to risk it and give everyone some semblance of hope the next 3 weeks, what the hell, it’s his shoulder.

  59. It Rodgers is medically cleared to play by Thursday, he will play. Otherwise he will not play. That is how the Packers have operated for a long time.

    Even if Rodgers plays, I don’t think 10 wins will get them the wild card spot.

    Oddly enough, there are scenarios that have green bay winning the division. There are even scenarios that have Minnesota missing the playoffs. I hope the stars line up and Green Bay wins out, Minnesota loses out and the Panthers and Seahawks both win 11 games. That would leave.Minnesota home for the playoffs and that would he awesome!

  60. Many are saying he would be a dope and thats this agent telling him this also, to not pursue other options. He has one super bowl but a terrible playoff record. If his ego is as big as I guess, he should realize he needs a team around him that can take him to the superbowl again.
    Hell I would not be totally shocked to see Denver go after him. A good fit with a nucleus of defensive and offensive talent.

  61. With or without Rodgers, there’s actually a better chance that Mike Florio marries Prince Harry and becomes the future Queen of England than there is of the Packers making the playoffs this year.

  62. ” You fair weather GB fans are the first ones to post in a Vikings thread.”

    Your righteous indignation would be less laughable if you hadn’t made the 4th post here (sorry some other Heidis knocked you out of first place) and hadn’t added three or four since then. Admit it: Like most on the wrong side of the river, you care more about dissing GB than you do about the mighty Norse. And in a few weeks most of the “die hard” Viking fans will be quietly hanging up their purples and becoming “die hard” Wild fans.

  63. The Almighty Cabbage says:

    December 12, 2017 at 1:58 pm

    Your fear is palpable… and delicious. I can’t wait to top it off with the customary barrels full of purple tears. Let’s face it, every little football dream you’ve ever had has been smashed by the Packers. Every single one. The higher you’ve hopped, the more humiliating your inevitable heartache has been… and you’ve been hopping to all-new highs (lows) since Rodgers went out.

    The only thing different about this year’s pipe dream is that ALL your excuses have been taken away. No Rodgers for at least 7+ games… injuries all over the O-line and defensive backfield… two rookies carrying the load at RB. If Lavender Larry can’t steal a division title under these circumstances, it’s time to finally admit it… the Packers own you.

    lets see… Vikings beat bengals sit at 11-3 packers beat panthers sit at 8-6….yep 3 game lead with 2 left I’d say its in the bag

  64. I don’t think the market for elite quarterbacks is going down, I think it’s pretty obviously going the other way. I don’t think it’s hurting Rodgers any that he doesn’t have a contract yet.

  65. Rodgers against the Vikings at home two days before Christmas would be must see TV. All the better if there’s still a chance for the Packers. I want to see it. I want Rodgers to bring it and Zimmer to bring it. Play ball!

  66. mnrasslinggovjesse says:
    December 12, 2017 at 4:23 pm
    ” You fair weather GB fans are the first ones to post in a Vikings thread.”

    Your righteous indignation would be less laughable if you hadn’t made the 4th post here (sorry some other Heidis knocked you out of first place) and hadn’t added three or four since then. Admit it: Like most on the wrong side of the river, you care more about dissing GB than you do about the mighty Norse. And in a few weeks most of the “die hard” Viking fans will be quietly hanging up their purples and becoming “die hard” Wild fans.
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    Yep, because the football season will be over and there are other sports to which we can turn our attention. Meanwhile, we haven’t seen most of you guys since the first Rodgers-less loss and you’re just now returning because there’s a chance your savior might come back. This despite there being nothing else to do in Green Bay.

  67. shlort says:
    December 12, 2017 at 4:01 pm

    Oddly enough, there are scenarios that have green bay winning the division. There are even scenarios that have Minnesota missing the playoffs. I hope the stars line up and Green Bay wins out, Minnesota loses out and the Panthers and Seahawks both win 11 games. That would leave.Minnesota home for the playoffs and that would he awesome!
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    Well, you have that going for you, I guess.

  68. No matter Vike fans. You’ll win the division but no Super Bowl win for you. It is not in your kharma you have had four (4) chances and lost all of them. 4 losses……god that must just eat at a Vike fan’s soul. So, brace yourself for disappointment, you won’t be there again.

  69. If the Purple Frankens’ say he’s coming back, then by golly, he must be coming back this season. These know-it-alls are never wrong…until they are, which they won’t admit to. They’ll resort to logical fallacy in all of its forms (usually a red herring) before admitting they have were wrong.

    Face it, who’s more obsessed with Rodgers, the Purple Frankens or the rest of the football world? Yep, the purples. Ack, they’re just scared he might come back and ruin their home-field advantage for the playoffs, which, when you’re one-and-done, should be that big of a deal.

  70. leatherface2012 says:
    December 12, 2017 at 4:35 pm
    The Almighty Cabbage says:

    December 12, 2017 at 1:58 pm

    Your fear is palpable… and delicious. I can’t wait to top it off with the customary barrels full of purple tears. Let’s face it, every little football dream you’ve ever had has been smashed by the Packers. Every single one. The higher you’ve hopped, the more humiliating your inevitable heartache has been… and you’ve been hopping to all-new highs (lows) since Rodgers went out.

    The only thing different about this year’s pipe dream is that ALL your excuses have been taken away. No Rodgers for at least 7+ games… injuries all over the O-line and defensive backfield… two rookies carrying the load at RB. If Lavender Larry can’t steal a division title under these circumstances, it’s time to finally admit it… the Packers own you.

    lets see… Vikings beat bengals sit at 11-3 packers beat panthers sit at 8-6….yep 3 game lead with 2 left I’d say its in the bag

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    It should be in the bag… but it isn’t… just like it should have been in the bag all those other times… but it wasn’t… like just last year, for instance, when 5-0 had you purples hopping up and down, hollering “Superbowl, Homeboy” and other assorted nonsense. Then you got your dreams crushed yet again.

    I’m torn as to whether I want the Vikings to lose out while the Packers win out just so you miss the playoffs altogether… again… or if I want the Vikings to remain the number 2 seed while the Pack slides in at number 6. That way, the Pack would have a chance to knock you out out of the NFCCG, in your McStadium, followed by a chance to win World Championship #14, also in your McStadium, (as long as you don’t go the rest of the way crazy and burn 1.2 BILLION of your own dollars to the ground after said NFCCG).

    Either way would be a lot of fun for me… and you still won’t learn anything. After your customary disappearing act you’ll be back in the offseason, hopping away, telling us how you “won the draft” and slobbering over some half-baked FA acquisition like Mike Wallace or Michael Floyd and other assorted nonsense. Some things never change.

  71. i love listening to milwaukee sports talk radio. these people actually think they will make the playoffs. likes its automatic if erin plays they win out. I guess ill have to take that instead of the annual epic playoff choke

    #danglethecarrot

  72. So Cabbage shows up after being in hiding for weeks to brag that the packers could slide into the #6 spot and when a super bowl?

    And Wafflestomp said nobody was doing that in packerland.

    Im you packer clowns are just so foolish and pathetic.

  73. packrh8tr says:
    December 12, 2017 at 6:59 pm
    The Almighty Crappage says:
    After your customary disappearing act….
    ——-

    where you been the last 8 weeks????
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I’ve been around but unlike you purples, I don’t troll. I always stick to the facts and the facts of late have had your beloveds on top. And yet, the Packers are still first and foremost on your little minds. I’m really enjoying watching your fear.

  74. twinfan24 says:
    December 12, 2017 at 2:29 pm
    milkcan44 says:
    December 12, 2017 at 2:07 pm
    The article does not mention how conservative Ted Thompson is. Also, unlike some teams, they do not have an owner convicted of fraud. He won’t be let on the field unless they’re sure.
    ________________________________________

    Actually, I bet they have dozens (or hundreds) of “owners” convicted of all kinds of offenses.
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    This comment wins! Lol! We get a kick out of the ‘things Wisconsin residents are arrested for’ every single day. They are a different breed up there, lucky for us they have a good football team (what else is there in WI?) or there would be many more Jeffrey Dahmer types coming out of the woodwork.

  75. These are the times when the input of your family is really helpful.
    Oh wait…I’m sure Aaron will come up with the right decision on his own — maybe the dog from the commercial will help.

  76. Here’s a factor for you socialist Heidi fans. Your Vikings haven’t played in a super bowl in over 40 years. As I’m sure you know, they’ve “played” in 4 of them and lost them all. But did you know not once, for even one second, did they ever lead in any of those games. Great history you have there Minnesota!

  77. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    December 12, 2017 at 7:34 pm
    packrh8tr says:
    December 12, 2017 at 6:59 pm
    The Almighty Crappage says:
    After your customary disappearing act….
    ——-

    where you been the last 8 weeks????
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I’ve been around but unlike you purples, I don’t troll. I always stick to the facts and the facts of late have had your beloveds on top. And yet, the Packers are still first and foremost on your little minds. I’m really enjoying watching your fear.
    ———-
    if you were “around” you would know that im not a viking fan. so you arent sticking to facts.

    and you dont troll….hahahahahahahahaha

  78. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    December 12, 2017 at 3:37 pm
    The Packers aren’t the ones that have crushed all your dreams? Well then allow me to apologize… but in my defense, it was an easy error to make. I mean let’s be real here… you’ve been crying about the Packers nonstop since the very first day the Vikings sputtered into existence.

    “The league is on their side.”

    “The refs let them get away with stuff.”

    “There’s a curse.”

    “If they didn’t have Starr, they’d never win anything.”

    “If they didn’t have Favre, they’d never win anything.”

    “If they didn’t have Rodgers, they’d never win anything.”

    On and on and on, again and again and again, world without end, amen.

    So 56 years of nonstop crying has been over nothing? Whoa. That’s creepy, alright… but you still can’t make us love you.
    ——————————————

    Wow, that rivals some of Stella’s meltdowns! Congratulations! #Rockbottom

  79. canadapackers says:
    December 12, 2017 at 2:13 pm

    “If the Packers were smart, they’d have signed him to a new deal by now.”

    Maybe the Packers ( including AR) are smart. Dont see Brady or Rivers on that list…

    ————————————–

    The reason you don’t see Brady on that list? Do you know what his cap hit is? Only $13.7 Million. Brady wants rings, and he (alone, apparently) understands that to win rings you need better players around you…it’s not just about you. I said when the Texans signed Watt and the Dolphins signed Suh that they will NEVER get to a Super Bowl with that much money tied up into a single player under the salary cap. My Lions will never come close to the promised land paying Stafford (who I’m a big fan of) that much money. If Stafford this past summer could have figured out how to get by on only, let’s say, $18 Million a season, think about the OL they could have paid to have in front of him. Geez…perhaps we’d have our first run-blocking OL in a generation.

  80. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    December 12, 2017 at 1:58 pm
    Your fear is palpable… and delicious. I can’t wait to top it off with the customary barrels full of purple tears. Let’s face it, every little football dream you’ve ever had has been smashed by the Packers. Every single one. The higher you’ve hopped, the more humiliating your inevitable heartache has been… and you’ve been hopping to all-new highs (lows) since Rodgers went out.

    The only thing different about this year’s pipe dream is that ALL your excuses have been taken away. No Rodgers for at least 7+ games… injuries all over the O-line and defensive backfield… two rookies carrying the load at RB. If Lavender Larry can’t steal a division title under these circumstances, it’s time to finally admit it… the Packers own you.

    ***

    The Vikings have never lost to the Packers in an NFC championship game, so I’m not sure why you think the Packers were responsible for those hopeful years of the Vikings not going to the SB. The Falcons, Giants, Saints were.

  81. sammievee says:
    December 12, 2017 at 2:49 pm
    As winning out is unlikely, with or without Rodgers, and doesn’t even mean that Pack makes playoffs, simply wait a week and have all the same conversations as the playoff opportunities may clarify.

    Yep, losing with Hundley would completely clarify things–zero chance after that.

  82. So if he gets hurt again well then he has a long time to rest. I doubt there is a career injury waiting to happen. The NFL has so many players who are injured and all of them are at risk of a re-injure. You have a playoff shot you play him. And I’m a Lions fan where 1 playoff win in 60 years is success.

  83. 80% healed (which the CT scan did confirm) + reinforcing by the plates = stronger than the healthy bone that was fractured. It’s tackle football, injury is a possibly on every play, but he has no greater chance of injury to his left collarbone now than he did before.

    There is zero medical reason not to play. There are 3 teams ahead of them and 2 WC spots available.
    Atlanta plays New Orleans and Carolina.
    Seattle still has to play LA and Dallas with Zeke back.
    Green Bay plays Detroit head to head.

    It’s not like leapfrogging one of those teams for a wild card spot is a pipe dream. Rodgers is medically cleared to play by the leagues most conservative medical staff. It’s not “complicated”, it’s very simple. Rodgers is clearly a better option than Hundley.

  84. Brandon in Northwest Suburbia says:

    December 13, 2017 at 4:20 am

    80% healed (which the CT scan did confirm) + reinforcing by the plates = stronger than the healthy bone that was fractured. It’s tackle football, injury is a possibly on every play, but he has no greater chance of injury to his left collarbone now than he did before.

    There is zero medical reason not to play. There are 3 teams ahead of them and 2 WC spots available.
    Atlanta plays New Orleans and Carolina.
    Seattle still has to play LA and Dallas with Zeke back.
    Green Bay plays Detroit head to head.

    It’s not like leapfrogging one of those teams for a wild card spot is a pipe dream. Rodgers is medically cleared to play by the leagues most conservative medical staff. It’s not “complicated”, it’s very simple. Rodgers is clearly a better option than Hundley
    =========================================================
    1.) tell that to Romo

    2.) they have a 12% chance to make the palayoffs…….

  85. screamingyellowzonkers says:
    December 12, 2017 at 3:28 pm
    ktoast says:
    December 12, 2017 at 2:43 pm
    pretty lame to mention “financial security” when discussing a player who, a few short years ago, was the highest paid athlete the sport has ever seen. he’s financially secure beyond his wildest needs.
    —————
    Serious question.

    If you could make $20 million a year or $25 million a year which would you choose?

    To put it in real terms for us peasants:
    If you could make $50,000 a year or $62,500 a year, which would you choose?

    We all know the answer.
    It would be a bad business decision for Rodgers to risk millions over a miracle scenario.

    In fact, Rodgers should demand a re-negotiation of his contract in April.

    ————————————————————————

    What you are saying makes sense. My thoughts stem from watching him during the entirety of his career to date, his talent, his ability to do michael jordan-esque things to win games. he knows all of this, and he knows that he has an opportunity to run the table to get in to the playoffs. I fully believe his desire to win a ring this year is the only thing driving him, not a few arbitrary millions or “what if I get hurt” scenarios.

    every game a football player plays could be his last, ask Ryan Shazier. Rodgers doesn’t seem like the type of dude who is driven by fear.

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