Report: Dom Capers out in Green Bay

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It’s a better-late-than-never move that some Packers fans thought would never happen.

After nine seasons with the Packers, defensive coordinator Dom Capers is not expected to return in 2018, according to Adam Schefter of ESPN.

The defense has struggled in recent years under Capers, with the original head coach of both the Panthers and Texans often the target of criticism and calls for his removal. But coach Mike McCarthy stubbornly has stuck with Capers, 67.

“I think all of us in life have always gone through experiences in our past that you may have quit on something just to get that fresh, new start, and it feels good, but in hindsight it was not the best thing for you,” McCarthy said in May regarding Capers’ ongoing presence on the staff. “I know I have personally. So I’ve always held true to that in my decision-making process.”

It’s unclear whether he’ll retire or “retire.” If it’s the latter, he could unretire with another team. It’s also unclear whether McCarthy made the decision to move on from Capers on his own or “on his own.”

76 responses to “Report: Dom Capers out in Green Bay

  1. I was in favor of getting rid of Capers, but after the last couple of games, I was less sure. Thompson gave him nothing to work with. TT should retire. The fact that the Pack had no Pro Bowlers Is a testament to his failures. If healthy they might have had one, Rodgers. I would clean house in GB, but Murphy is too weak. As long as Ted is there, Rodgers is being wasted.

  2. If this is true, it’s about damn time. Should have been done 3 or 4 years ago. Rodgers would have another championship or two with a defense that wasn’t terrible.

  3. Dom’ s scheme is no longer effective in the NFL. The 3-4 can.work,.but only if a team can get players that are good in the system, and those players are hard to find.

  4. Gotta admit there’s a problem first- the work on the fixing. This was due. Now trade UP in the draft, and get some pass rushers. Go Pack

  5. And now the local radio honks in Green Bay will say this is a long time coming. I’m looking at you Havel and Sidney. For YEARS people have been calling in and saying it’s time for Capers to go along with his staff and you’ve done nothing but dismiss that idea because you’re scared of taking a stand.

    I called in saying they should have fired him and gone after Wade Phillips, right before he went to Denver – you hung up on me.

    Good riddance to bad rubbish.

    People will say that it’s TT that didn’t get him playmakers but when guys come in, are mediocre and leave only to play like Hyde and Hayworth have elsewhere – that’s on the chef then, not the guy buying groceries. It was Dom’s job to get them to play like that HERE.

  6. Ok, McCarthy – your turn. Your play-calling is either worst or second-worst behind Mike Shula, and only a 1st ballot Hall Of Fame QB has been able to bail you out. Without him, the spotlight was AWFULLY bright this year.

  7. It’s every year with the Packers, “fire this guy, fire that guy”. Yet the one choosing the personnel sits right at the top and is untouchable. No owner equals no structure. So if you think your stock certificate is real, you are a fool. Maybe the board should split the stock 2-1 and suck a few more fools in but you would now have 2 shares!

  8. There are changes coming in Packer land. Team is not used to a losing record, so I expect them to be more active in free agency and beef up the defense in the draft.This division is between the Vikes and Packers for the next 4 years.From a Viking fan!

  9. I’m willing to give TT and MM one more year, but if I don’t see a Reggie White type off season move, I suspect they are done. Green Bay can easily fall off the cliff and return to the 70s and 80s type of team they were.

  10. Sometimes a head coach makes a decision to cut bait, and Capers, to save his own job. But now it’s too little, too late for these Packers. Aaron is damaged goods. His last game was absolutely terrible. He is more than on the decline. He should have bounced right back. But he didn’t. And we are like bottom-feeding carp now. Caperless carp.

  11. I see all this hate on don capers and people think the packers will be magically better after he leaves…

    Look the packers defense has sucked for years and in my opinion don capers is the reason It has stayed competative. There is absolutely no talent on that side of the ball for the packers. The problem is packer fans think everybody on their squad is Reggie white or brett Favre so they blame the DC.

    Look for the packers d to take another step back and be bottom 5 next year.

  12. Yet the one choosing the personnel sits right at the top and is untouchable. No owner equals no structure.
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    Always find it odd to hear fans of a team that hasn’t won a playoff game in a decade (or a championship ever) tell us what’s wrong with our team. Our no owner, no structure team has been the second most successful franchise in the league for the past 20 years. Win something, then tell us how we are doing it wrong.

  13. One day, we Packers fans will look back and say that Capers wasn’t that bad.

    Things can always get worse.

  14. I’ve been a Packer fan as long as almost anyone on here, so here is my hard earned opinion. McCathys play calling is either a bigger problem in GB, or as big a problem. Get an offensive play caller or let Rogers call his own plays.

  15. This is a good start for Packer fans.

    Personally I’d like to see Ted step down next. Need a GM in there to get some talent to surround Rodgers with. And I don’t mean on offense. Rodgers makes everyone around him better on offense. But they need more on D and some depth. When you let guys like Hyde go, and he becomes a pro bowler, it’s not McCarthy’s fault or Rodgers fault. That lies squarely on capers and Ted.

  16. Both Capers and Thompson need to go. Capers schemes are predictable and stale. Ted is to blame for drafting players like Datone Jones, Nick Perry, Quentin Rollins, and Jerel Worthy in the first and second rounds. When you are a one trick pony like Ted(largely ignores free agency) then you have to hit on those picks. Furthermore, when he did hit on guys like Hayward and Hyde he lets them walk.

  17. va4favre says:
    December 31, 2017 at 5:57 am

    I was in favor of getting rid of Capers, but after the last couple of games, I was less sure. Thompson gave him nothing to work with. TT should retire. The fact that the Pack had no Pro Bowlers Is a testament to his failures. If healthy they might have had one, Rodgers. I would clean house in GB, but Murphy is too weak. As long as Ted is there, Rodgers is being wasted.
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    Using Pro Bowl selections as any kind of measure is about like taking “Power Rankings” seriously. The talent level is fine… especially since Ted has picked in the high 20’s, or in the 30’s, most years. David Bakhtiari graded out as the best pass blocking LT in the league. Blake Martinez is tied for the league lead in combined tackles. Davante Adams is one of only 2 receivers in the league with more than 10 TD catches, even with Hundley in there. Them not making the Pro Bowl isn’t an indictment of TT, it’s an indictment of the Pro Bowl voters.

    Some of these other teams have picked in the top 10, if not the top 5, for those same years and it still took almost a “perfect storm” of bad happenings for them to catch the Pack. The problem with the defense isn’t on TT, it’s on Capers’ soft zone coverages and the depleted secondary.

  18. Ted should gracefully retire next and then we take a fresh look at judicious use of free agency. We have 12 draft picks with a higher draft number than we have seen in a decade, have already made some smart signings of our own players, pay Rodgers and be ready for next year. We’ll see what the Vikings can do with their opportunity this year. With Rodgers down, then Wentz going down, they may never have a better chance. Good luck to them. Bring the championship back to the NFC North and then compete again in 2018.

  19. Now they need to have Thompson ‘retire’ and find a GM that get talent on this team. We lack playmakers!!!!
    If you want mediocrity, TT is your man. He can’t get this team to where it needs to be every year with AR. Bye teddy!

  20. The Vikings perspective is to hopes things stay as they are in Green Bay – rely on one guy to carry the team, have a bunch of disillusioned fans on board with it, and a GM that still lives in the 20th century.

  21. pkrlvr says:

    Always find it odd to hear fans of a team that hasn’t won a playoff game in a decade…
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    I guess Dallas must have forfeited the game for us to make the NFC Championship game 8 years ago.

    As usual, a Packer fan that knows nothing about football.

  22. Cabbage, your logic is flawed to an extent. Since 2005, GB has a lot of 1st and 2nd round draft choices, that aren’t even on the roster anymore. They have either washed out of the league, or went on to play somewhere else, and had fairly good careers. Ted isn’t one bit afraid to extend, or give money to players on offense, but he won’t spend on defense. What’s scary is, you take someone like Randall, or Clinton-Dix, and Ted might not want to extend them, same with Hyde. He spends on 3 wr’s and has a mediocre amount being paid to Rodgers, and Mathews. To much money wrapped up in 3 wideouts. Should pick 2 and dump one.

    Rodgers doesn’t need high dollar talent on the outside. He flat out doesn’t. He’s a first ballot HOFer. He makes those guys better. Not the other way around. We had that here. Moss made culpepper look good here. You have a QB that could take 3 guys off the street and make them look like all pros.

    I shouldn’t care since I’m a Vikings fan. But, I’d love the NFC north to have 4 teams go 13-3 or 12-4 some year..

  23. Scapegoat for a soft, talentless, injury prone roster. No defensive coach that’s any good will want to go there to work with that personnel. Especially with most of the big cash tied up on offense and washed up Fabio. Blow the whole thing up before it’s to late for Erin. It probably already is to late.

  24. “Dom’s scheme is no longer effective in the NFL. The 3-4 can.work,.but only if a team can get players that are good in the system, and those players are hard to find.”
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    There are a number of defensive coaches that still overly emphasize the “base defense”. With teams passing as much as they do and generally out of 3+ WR packages the need to emphasize the base defenses isn’t needed as much. The base defense is still important. It’s essentially a run stopping defense that can still get after the passer if needed; but it’s not optimized to stop the pass.

    Most defense these days is played out of the nickel package. So in the case of Capers; the 3-4 tricks of zone blitzing and fire zone blitzes worked great back when offenses primarily passed out of 21 package personnel (2 RBs, 1 TE, 2 WRs) on most downs. But the emphasis on run stuffing defensive linemen and zone blitzing out of a base scheme isn’t as necessary when offenses are primarily passing out of 3+ WR personnel groups…even against run heavy teams (simple example run heavy team runs the ball on 1st down. Defense stuffs it It’s 2nd & 10, run heavy team usually has to pass out of a 3+ WR package).

    So defensive coaches have recognized that the base defense is almost a specialty package at this point. Again, it’s still important to stuff the run. But after that the rest of the game defense is about being optimized for stopping the pass and getting after the passer.

  25. jerrykill4pres says:
    December 31, 2017 at 12:06 pm
    Cabbage, your logic is flawed to an extent. Since 2005, GB has a lot of 1st and 2nd round draft choices, that aren’t even on the roster anymore. They have either washed out of the league, or went on to play somewhere else, and had fairly good careers. Ted isn’t one bit afraid to extend, or give money to players on offense, but he won’t spend on defense. What’s scary is, you take someone like Randall, or Clinton-Dix, and Ted might not want to extend them, same with Hyde. He spends on 3 wr’s and has a mediocre amount being paid to Rodgers, and Mathews. To much money wrapped up in 3 wideouts. Should pick 2 and dump one.

    Rodgers doesn’t need high dollar talent on the outside. He flat out doesn’t. He’s a first ballot HOFer. He makes those guys better. Not the other way around. We had that here. Moss made culpepper look good here. You have a QB that could take 3 guys off the street and make them look like all pros.

    I shouldn’t care since I’m a Vikings fan. But, I’d love the NFC north to have 4 teams go 13-3 or 12-4 some year..
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    Possibly… then again, possibly not. Earlier this year I saw a compilation of “Draft picks from the past few years still in the league” (or maybe it was starting) and Thompson’s drafts were way at the top or maybe even at the very top. Sure, there were guys that never panned out but that happens everywhere and some of those were due to injury (Justin Harrell for example).

    What you say about guys having success elsewhere seems to reinforce my point. Have you noticed it always seems to be ex Packer defenders that have a lot of success elsewhere? Hayward and Hyde, for instance. Both defenders, both good players while they were here, but neither of them were setting the world on fire in Capers’ system. Then they go elsewhere, into different systems, and both become legit star players, right out of the gate.

    Summing up, in my feeble old mind, that says Ted drafted them well enough but then Capers’ system held them back and/or made them appear to be much weaker players than they actually were (and are). That’s on Capers in my mind.

    Julius Peppers played well for the Pack but wanted to spend his final years back “home” in Carolina… and now he’s not just playing well, he’s playing extremely well.. in a system other than Capers’. How can that be on Ted and not Capers?

    I’m definitely with you on wanting the whole division feared throughout the league. I don’t know if you’re old enough to remember, but back when there were three divisions and three wild cards, there was a time when 4 teams out of 5 in the NFC Central went to the playoffs. We could only have three now, but that would still be awesome.

  26. teal379 says:
    December 31, 2017 at 8:18 am
    And now the local radio honks in Green Bay will say this is a long time coming. I’m looking at you Havel and Sidney. For YEARS people have been calling in and saying it’s time for Capers to go along with his staff and you’ve done nothing but dismiss that idea because you’re scared of taking a stand.

    I called in saying they should have fired him and gone after Wade Phillips, right before he went to Denver – you hung up on me.

    Good riddance to bad rubbish.

    People will say that it’s TT that didn’t get him playmakers but when guys come in, are mediocre and leave only to play like Hyde and Hayworth have elsewhere – that’s on the chef then, not the guy buying groceries. It was Dom’s job to get them to play like that HERE.
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    I’m not a fan of Capers but when you guys point at Rollins and Hayworth as such busts that left and are suddenly playing well I have to shake my head. Neither of those guys were consistently healthy during their time with the Packers. Yeah they were good talents that never really paid off but Capers isn’t a faith healer. No amount of good coaching will offset having your best players unable to suit up for multiple games.

  27. Classic case of crap flows down hill. The real problem with the Packers defense starts and ends with Ted Thompson. He has handcuffed Capers by not getting him the talent he needs to work with. Quick — someone tell me one superstar player Capers has had on defense in his time with the Packers.
    I’m not saying Capers is Buddy Ryan as a DC, but the fact is he’s had a whole bunch of mediocre players to work with on defense during his entire time in GB.
    The two guys who should have been fired are Ted Thompson and the most over rated HC in the NFL, Mike McCarthy.

  28. You cats who want to blame Thompson need to understand how well he has actually drafted. Considering how Green Bay has picked in the high 20s and 30s year after year, it is obvious why they can’t load up on talent through the draft. If Thompson has a flaw or is his aversion to bringing free agents.

  29. shlort says:
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    Total cop out! Look at the Vikings… they have two players that were higher first round picks in Barr and Waynes. 2 very late first round picks in Smith and Rhodes and the rest of their D is made up of a 2nd rounder in Kendricks and a bunch of 3rd rounders (Griffen and Hunter) or later. Teams are given 7 picks… all of them matter. Joseph was an under pursued FA and Sendejo was an UDFA cut by Dallas and Tom Johnson was a journeyman FA.

    The reality is, Thompson has spent early and often on defense and has whiffed on most of them while allowing Capers to fail on developing and scheming for those busts.

  30. shlort says:
    December 31, 2017 at 1:31 pm
    You cats who want to blame Thompson need to understand how well he has actually drafted. Considering how Green Bay has picked in the high 20s and 30s year after year, it is obvious why they can’t load up on talent through the draft. If Thompson has a flaw or is his aversion to bringing free agents.

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    Look at all the good defensive players that have been taken by other teams that TT could have drafted, then come back to me. And, he has consistently taken players who played end in college but TT tried to make into LB’ers in the NFL. It hasn’t worked.
    TT does a great job at finding WR’s and offensive linemen in the draft. He is lousy at finding impact players on defense.

  31. It’s about time. I hope we bring in some young hotshot DC who’s innovative and fresh. This is good news! Now it’s TT turn… Bring on the Wolfe

  32. McCarthy kept him in GB. There should be a penalty for that bad call! Also, TT was a total bust in his draft and in free agency. How could anyone be taken that badly by somebody like Bailout Bennett?

  33. People that say Dom had nothing to work with aren’t paying attention. Two years ago the first six picks were defense. Last year the first four. There are good players on that D: Mike Daniels, Kenny Clark (pro bowler soon), Clay Mathews (best years are behind him but still solid), Nick Perry, Morgan Burnett, etc…the problem was they couldn’t play zone. There were blown coverages almost every zone play and we don’t have the horses to play man, but no team does.

    This D was unorganized and lacked chemistry/cohesiveness. That is coaching. He needs to go

  34. Won’t help unless Capers is replaced with an elite defensive mind and there are precious few of those. Problem with the packers D is talent (or lack thereof), not X’s and O’s.

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