“Zero-point-zero percent” chance Belichick leaves Patriots

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Patriots owner Robert Kraft recently told Peter King that Kraft “absolutely” believes coach Bill Belichick will return to the team in 2018. Putting it another way, and as it was put last night on NBC’s Football Night in America, there’s a “zero-point-zero percent” chance Belichick leaves.

Belichick, whose contractual details remain unknown by anyone beyond a very small circle, is bound to the Patriots for multiple years, we’re told. And while the puffed-up, Vegas-appropriate, 10-year, $100 million deal supposedly signed by Jon Gruden with the Raiders doesn’t match the $12.5 million or so per year that Belichick is believed to make, if Gruden with his one Super Bowl win and 45-51 record over his last six years in the league is worth $10 million per year, Belichick is grossly underpaid at $12.5 million annually.

Still, Belichick’s options ultimately are to coach the Patriots or to coach no one. Unless he’s ready to coach high school lacrosse (at considerably less than $12.5 million per year), Belichick isn’t going anywhere.

Then there’s this. The Patriots over an extended period have crafted a football infrastructure specifically to Belichick’s every whim and liking. Even if another team would make the investment necessary: (1) to get Belichick from the Patriots; (2) to pay Belichick what he’s worth in light of the Gruden deal; and (3) to write a check for whatever it would take to upgrade the facilities and football operations to Belichick’s specifications, how long would it take to get everything to where Belichick wants it to be?

Or, in other words, to the way he already has it in New England?

69 responses to ““Zero-point-zero percent” chance Belichick leaves Patriots

  1. Bill sees the writing on the wall. Ripcord in hand. Just what is his price for his legacy to remain intact?
    An aging QB. No Jimmy G., and nothing in the Qb pipeline..All assistants leaving.
    Major cracks in Cheaterville.

  2. None of that matters. If he doesn’t think he’s in control, and by being forced to trade Jimmy G he probably thinks he isn’t, why would a man like him stay? He knows Brady, as great as he has been, only has a few years left, despite what Brady may think. Moving on to a team with a young QB or high draft pick might seem attractive to him. He wants to win without Brady, to cement his legacy as the greatest coach ever. If that’s what he thinks, he can’t do that in New England. The human ego is expansive

  3. BB tried to hold onto Jimmy.

    Same agent as Brady, don’t you think the agent

    knows the truth. BB held him to long trying

    to talk him into a long term deal. The kid

    wanted to play. Everyone yells a second round

    pick. Well at the time it was first pick second round

    less bonus paid to player no guarantee to contract for

    player.

  4. Let’s all be clear here, BB isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. He is the GOAT. And not in his era like players, I mean EVER all time!!!
    He will stay with the Pats until he builds a winner without TB.
    Enough of the fake news!!

  5. My guess is Belichick and Brady have ownership options on the Pats. At this point, how could they not? How much have theyboth “given up” in terms of $$. A little goes a long ways.

  6. Bill Belichick is a student of the game and its history. He may always seem focused on the next game, but nobody is more of student of the sport than Belichick. His legacy is the New England Patriots. Those three men will always be linked as part of NFL greatness and this band is not worth breaking up, at least right now. All three of the have egos, but none wants to hurt the other two. The only thing Belichick has done that can be questioned is the handling of the trading of Jimmy Garoppolo. He could have gotten more from Cleveland a lot more in April. He wanted Jimmy to succeed and he likes John Lynch, Mike Shanahan, and Kyle Shanahan. If the Patriots had dealt him earlier and gotten another first round pick, there is no doubt, it would be easier now to draft Brady’s successor. Belichick made this harder on himself or his successor if he retires.

  7. Super Bowl trophy needs to bear Belichick’s name. Lombardi trophy will go to the best preseason team instead. That’s the apples to apples comparison it.

  8. He should be relieved of his gm duties to say the least. Traded Jimmy G. and traded the 2017 NFL sack leader. Good management Bill. Good job.

  9. haha cheaters. there’s still a trace percentage chance he leaves the cheating factory. if the giants get him, then the patsies deserve to blow.

  10. Guys at ESPN are like Jim Carrey in Dumb and Dumber; ‘So you’re saying there’s a chance…’

  11. Plus, we denied Houston’s request to interview Caserio and the other front office guy. I would assume Josh is the HCIW, and Caserio will be GM.

  12. Even if it was true…why the Giants?

    Eli Manning is 37 yrs old and climbing.

    New England was 2nd in Offensive PPG. Giants were 31st!
    New England was 5th is Defensive PPG allowed.(I’m as surprised as you!) Giants were 28th!
    The whole world knows Belichick considers Special Teams to be as valuable as the other 2 phases of the game, and that the Pats’ ST unit makes big plays regularly.

    So…with all that being said, why the hell would you leave an aging league MVP, with a Top 5 team across the board to go to an aging QB who is 29th in QB rating, on a bottom 5 team across the board.

    If he turns the Giants into a powerhouse, many will say he is the best to ever coach the NFL. But many already concede that accolade. If he fails to ever get over 8-8, people will say he rode Brady’s magic for 2 decades and he’ll tarnish his legacy as GOAT coach.

    Leaving New England, he has nothing to gain and everything to lose.

  13. if bill belichick wants to get out of new england, it is easy as pie. Just make sure the team goes 1-15 the next season. he will be fired right away.

  14. Belichick is good.
    MaCarthy is good.
    Both of these coaches have 12 reasons for most of their success.

  15. Since he his under contract, imagine how much the Pats (Mr. Kraft) would what ask as compensation to let BB go to another team? Never going to happen.

  16. amazing how everybody bashes espn until they say the pats dynasty may end then all of a sudden they are the most believable sports news source. ridiculous. nothing in the report by wicker-sham sounds close to the truth. BB isnt gonna coach the NYG. Keep dreaming Big Blue. Also, to all those who say they cant wait to taste our salty tears when it ends, well weve been drinking yours for darn near 25 years now. BB isnt going anywhere else ever. ANyone that thinks one possible disagreement between Kraft and BB is going to make BB jump ship arent giving him the respect he deserves as a businessman and his ability to make the right decision for his legacy. Ive worked beside many people I have had professional disagreements with but I still go there and work with those same people. IM not a whiny crybaby and neither is BB.

  17. What was laughable is the guy who is head of football operations, has a contract, who knows Brady was extended Feb 2016 would draw the line in the sand about Jimmy G. A player who did little and get rid of a player that helped NE win 5 Super Bowls. He has led the team to a 13-3 record and #1 seed this year.

  18. george1859 says:
    January 7, 2018 at 7:14 am

    Bill sees the writing on the wall. Ripcord in hand. Just what is his price for his legacy to remain intact?
    An aging QB. No Jimmy G., and nothing in the Qb pipeline..All assistants leaving.
    Major cracks in Cheaterville.

    What? One of the reasons NE traded with SF was to get Hoyer as backup. So, NE drafts a QB in 2018 and their QB room is Brady, Hoyer, and the drafted rookie.

  19. Bill Belichick is the best coach/GM in the game today, it’s not even close, and he’s likely the best ever. It’s him or Lombardi for best ever and the two men’s respective eras are so different I don’t know if either would have succeeded in the other’s time. How about you haters give it a rest for once? I’m not even a Patriots fan but I can recognize greatness when I see it.

  20. “Since he his under contract, imagine how much the Pats (Mr. Kraft) would what ask as compensation to let BB go to another team? Never going to happen”

    No kidding. The Bucs gave the Raiders 2 first rounders and 2 second rounders for Gruden back in the day. Gruden just signed a 100 million dollar ten year contract.

    BB would require AT LEAST 3 first rounders and 3 second rounders. And it would be ludicrous if he didn’t get AT LEAST 18-20 million a year considering Grudens contract.

    So a 65 year old BB is going to go to a team that sold their next three drafts just to get him, and said team will probably be in shambles (Giants etc. )… from the Patriots where he’s one 5 SBs and controls everything.

    Some of you people have a really hard time dealing with reality, reason, and logic.

  21. I love all the Giants’ fans I’ve been hearing the last few days who previously called Belichick a cheater, or overrated and dependent on Brady, suddenly do a 180 and can’t wait for Belichick to come back to them, and he’s the GOAT again, suddenly.

    Honestly, watching the media and the Hate Brigade twist themselves into pretzels to convince themselves this is true is really something special.

  22. “The Patriots over an extended period have crafted a football infrastructure specifically to Belichick’s every whim and liking.” or to put it the another way, the entire organization supports a culture of cheating (i.e., In 2007 Belichick was officially fined $500,000 — the largest fine ever imposed on a coach in the league’s then-87-year history,[16] and the maximum permitted under league rules. The Patriots were also fined $250,000, and stripped of their first-round selection in the 2008 NFL Draft. Then the Patriots organization was fined $1 million and lost their first round pick in the 2016 NFL draft and their fourth round pick in the 2017 NFL draft. Tom Brady was suspended four games.)

  23. He could retire and then become the anti-Gruden of MNF. Instead of “That guy is a great competitor that I’d love to have on my team” we could get “What the hell was that? That was a dumb decision and the player failed to adjust.”

    In all seriousness, Belichick talking football nuance and strategy on a weekly basis would be head and shoulders above what we have seen from TV game productions in several years.

  24. “if Gruden with his one Super Bowl win and 45-51 record over his last six years in the league is worth $10 million per year, Belichick is grossly underpaid at $12.5 million annually.”

    Maybe Gruden is overpaid then. The trust fund bowl cut owner that brought him on doesn’t look like the sharpest knife in the drawer

  25. I’m not even a Patriots fan but I can recognize greatness when I see it.

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    I would agree except……he has been caught cheating. The greatest doesn’t cheat in my world.

  26. TheVikingsHaveHowManySBTrophys? says:
    January 7, 2018 at 10:37 am

    Pats fans better lap up all they can NOW because when Brady decides he’s done it’s all ging to come crashing down. You’ll be battling Cleveland for a top 5 draft pick cuz you’ll be lucky to win 5 games a year.
    ________________________________________

    You seem to have conflated the Pats without Brady with the Packers without Rodgers. Just a little something for you to contemplate, Belichick is not McCarthy. He is a keen student of the game and is aware his legacy isn’t just what he’s accomplished already but also what he will leave behind. It’s far more likely he is aiming at a a transition that will be more like Walsh to Seifert than Parcells to Handley. That may seem like a lofty goal but Belichick has never been one to aim low.
    Rest assured whatever comes next those of us who survived Rod Rust and Victor Kiam will be here for whatever comes next and we will have a few generations worth of memories to either tide us over or add to. It sure seems to have carried Packers fans over through the ’70’s & ’80’s or most Dolphins fans for the past 45 years.

  27. jackdaniels1 says:
    January 7, 2018 at 10:51 am

    “if Gruden with his one Super Bowl win and 45-51 record over his last six years in the league is worth $10 million per year, Belichick is grossly underpaid at $12.5 million annually.”

    Maybe Gruden is overpaid then. The trust fund bowl cut owner that brought him on doesn’t look like the sharpest knife in the drawer

    Gruden is getting $5 Million per year for the first 5 years. It sounds like he’ll be bumped up to be Mark Davis’ sidekick after that.

  28. Bill wants out because he knows that Gruden knows he cheats….Pats been paying ESPN to keep Gruden away for a long time, They got Cowher to retire by paying him off, Gruden is back….Ready to EXPOSE the Pats

  29. After seeing what Gruden gets now its an opportunity for BB to make his family and their kids set for life. Thats something to think about.

  30. pbinpb57 says:
    January 7, 2018 at 9:54 am
    Since he his under contract, imagine how much the Pats (Mr. Kraft) would what ask as compensation to let BB go to another team? Never going to happen.

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    It took me reading 20 or so comments before someone got it right. THIS should have been in the summary of the story. THIS is what I heard in my head reading Kraft’s words. Kraft has an employee under contract and the story is correct that BB will either be coaching HS football (I would guess a Military Academy first, no hard core recruiting, different breed of football player) or the Patriots. In other words BB would have to quit and he is not a quitter nor will he ever want to be perceived as one.

    I’ve been played with superstar baseball players and in elite police units. They (we) all have one thing in common. Talent. Many don’t last because desire, effort and a CLEAR understanding of the chain of command gets you to the next level.

    BB understands that Kraft is the boss just like Brady understands he is #3. Kraft gets it too and he gave BB the keys but he’s still the boss. Kraft took a hit for the NFL (deflategate) and was burned because he took the high road. I seriously doubt there is trouble in NE.

    Brady has done the team friendly contract because his wife makes more and they’re moving into setting up grand-kids trust fund mode. He wants to win and be the best. So does BB and Kraft, I honestly believe, understands this. They all HAVE to have egos. I’d be shocked otherwise.

    Best QB of all time
    Best HC of all time
    Billionaire (most guys this wealthy are complete tools).

    You don’t think they’ve all butted heads a ten dozen or so times. Winning makes it all go away and will continue to make it go away.

  31. Trash or Smash says:
    January 7, 2018 at 11:30 am
    Bill wants out because he knows that Gruden knows he cheats….Pats been paying ESPN to keep Gruden away for a long time, They got Cowher to retire by paying him off, Gruden is back….Ready to EXPOSE the Pats

    Then there’s always the sensible take on things, this isn’t it. Gruden is not to be mentioned in the same breath as BB. He won one SB. One. 15 years ago. One. In 2006, Gruden led the Buccaneers to a dismal 4-12 season, which was his worst record as a head coach. The 2006 season was the first time a Tampa Bay team had not won more than four games since 1991. Gruden’s career regular season record in 11 seasons is 95-81, with a 5-4 mark in the postseason. This $100m contract is about as sensible as the ridiculous ones they gave Osweiler and a handful of other mezza mezza qbs. The football term for this syndrome is desperation.

    I’m sure BB is terror stricken.

  32. @Commentawaitigdeletion
    Not many Dolphins fans that I’ve talked to want to think about the old days. The reason being is that there is a feeling of contentment surrounding the organization (over the last 10-20 years) that is breeding a culture of acceptance of bad products on the field.

    We have sucked for too long to stay content with the past. It’s nice to watch Dan but I’d rather watch the next Marino

  33. 6ball says:
    January 7, 2018 at 7:12 am
    .
    Is Belichick more about the power or the money? There’s your answer.

    There is a third option: Winning. Somebody needs to let your coach in on the secret.

  34. The following quote tells you all you need to know about Seth Wickersham and his credibility:

    “He wanted to develop Garoppolo and leave the Patriots in good shape at the quarterback position. It was very important to him. Bill Walsh didn’t do that when he walked away. Vince Lombardi didn’t do that when he walked away. It was very important.”

    He asserts with a straight face that Bill Walsh didn’t leave the 49ers in good shape at QB.

    This is the person with the basket all you people chose to put your eggs in. Yikes.

  35. Nofoolnodrool says:
    January 7, 2018 at 10:53 am
    I’m not even a Patriots fan but I can recognize greatness when I see it.

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    I would agree except……he has been caught cheating. The greatest doesn’t cheat in my world.

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    So you must really look down on Mike Tomlin….a guy who tripped an opposing player on a return play. There has never been a more prominent example of poor sportsmanship and cheating in the history of the league

  36. Readers ought to realize that these people speaking about the Patriots are just spewing their own opinions. Believe it when BB speaks for himself.

  37. The people that ever believed that story, aside from being delusional wishful thinkers, are operating on the assumption this is like three squabbling spoiled kids who quit when they dont get their way. But the truth is each of these guys is a seasoned professional focused on succeeding at their respective professions as their top priority above all else. And each knows that their best chances at that success lies with working with the other two. So whether or not they are buds hanging out together they will continue to work together no matter what.

  38. dejadoh says:
    January 7, 2018 at 12:39 pm
    Would Kraft trade him for a first round draft pick?
    ________________

    If by “a first round pick” you mean 3 or 4 plus multiple second round picks, then maybe.

  39. pittsburghdamned says:
    January 7, 2018 at 11:58 am
    Sadly the legacy of CHEATING wipes out everything the Patriots have done

    —-
    As you awoke from yet another nightmare where Pittsburgh lost in heartbreaking fashion to the Pats, and found out it wasn’t a dream, but in fact reality—and didn’t like it—did you use your magic eraser somewhere at home on some comic book ledger we don’t know about??

    I just checked the official NFL records and there were all the championships, right where they always were, where they ought to be, and most importantly…where they’ll stay forever.

  40. Some of this is pretty funny. BB will not stay, or move, to a rebuilding team without a top notch franchise quarterback. BB & TB made their records together. I doubt that either (except possibly TB) would be referred to as GOAT without the other. My guess is that BB & TB will retire together from the Pats.

    Mike McCarthy said recently in defending himself that he felt he had a pretty good record. You should with the quarterbacks you’ve had. They talk about Jon Gruden’s Super Bowl win…..with a team built by and brought to a high level by Jim Dungy.

    BB as a color analyst? SMH. Mumbling occasionally through the game, then in closing, “We’re on to Cincinnati…”

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