Drew Brees: “Night and day” difference from Week One visit to Minnesota

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There are a couple of rematches in the divisional round of the playoffs this year, including the Saints-Vikings game in Minnesota on Sunday afternoon.

Those two teams opened the season against each other in a game that the Vikings won 29-19. It’s not something that Saints quarterback Drew Brees feels has much bearing on this week’s matchup.

“It’s night and day,” Brees said, via the New Orleans Advocate. “You’re still trying to find yourself, you’re still trying to establish your identity, so that feels like ages and ages ago.”

The big storyline heading into that game was Adrian Peterson‘s return to Minnesota and the fact that the running back ended the season on Arizona’s injured reserve list illustrates just how much has shifted over the last few months.

The Saints ran for 60 yards in that game and gave up 470 on defense, both of which look like outliers based on the way the rest of the season unfolded. It’s not just the Saints that have evolved, however.

Sam Bradford was the Vikings quarterback in Week One with Dalvin Cook topping the depth chart at running back. Neither one will be in the starting lineup this weekend, which only adds to the reasons to throw out that first meeting when trying to assess how things will play out this time.

144 responses to “Drew Brees: “Night and day” difference from Week One visit to Minnesota

  1. Was there week 1 and will be there on Sunday. It’s going to be so loud in that stadium, Brees was having trouble communicating the first time, Sunday will be impossible to hear anything!

  2. This is gonna be fun… The regular season does not matter anymore by definition of Minnie fans I’ve heard for the last decade… if you lose, you choked. Get you popcorn ready. Second, they are the two seed playing at home and the first article I find about the game is an article about how the Saints had an outlier game. Minnie will get no respect until they lose the 0… 0-57

  3. “Brees was having trouble communicating the first time, Sunday will be impossible to hear anything!”

    And all this time I thought Seattle had the dumbest fans.

  4. Zero chance Vikings lose this game. This is their chance to avenge the 2009 NFC Championship game and take one step closer to playing the Super Bowl in their own stadium.

  5. redlikethepig says:

    January 9, 2018 at 10:30 am

    “Brees was having trouble communicating the first time, Sunday will be impossible to hear anything!”

    And all this time I thought Seattle had the dumbest fans.

    and this weekend, lambeau field will be dead silent

  6. Next week will be a very sad time for you Viking fans. Thinking about what could have been. Then having to see Saints garb again the week before the Super Bowl in your own city and then your own stadium. It will be OK, relax, its just a silly game.

  7. This will be a bruiser. Saints don’t match up well against the Vikings. Vikings do match up well against the Saints. Rhodes will lock up Thomas like a pickle jar and probably hit him hard a few times. Against Caronlina, Brees threw to the middle of the field most of the time, against MN Sendejo and Smith will crush those throws. Vikings will make him throw outside the numbers and make him throw perfect passes. It’ll be tough for New Orleans.
    Vikings offense matches up well against Saints defense and we have a grinding running game that wears you out.
    It’ll be a darn good game, but I think the Vikings will come out on top. If they do, punch your ticket to the big dance cause it’s ON!!! SKOL!!

  8. thunderclap14 says:

    January 9, 2018 at 10:32 am

    Zero chance Vikings lose this game. This is their chance to avenge the 2009 NFC Championship game and take one step closer to playing the Super Bowl in their own stadium.

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    lol. As a Vikings fan (Which I am) I would think you would know better. Nothing is a given! I think the Vikings have a very good shot. The stats and numbers give the Vikings the edge, but lets be humble in the fact that we have been snake bitten in years past. Lets be confident, but respectful towards our foes.

  9. Broken Skydiver says:
    January 9, 2018 at 10:28 a

    Minnie will get no respect until they lose the 0… 0-57
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    The packer fan requirement that a Super Bowl has to be won order to get respect.

    And I’m willing to bet if by some miracle the Vikings do win the Super Bowl, packer fans will find someway to trash it. That’s who the Gumby’s are.

    What’s up with the new screen name Stella?

  10. going to be a great game. i don’t get the vikings fans giving the saints no shot. they are extremely balanced on offense, and in the battle of the most important position, i’ll take brees hitting spots before a first time playoff starter in keenum. its not like the saints d is garbage and keenum can afford to be shaky.

  11. And I’m willing to bet if by some miracle the Vikings do win the Super Bowl, packer fans will find someway to trash it. That’s who the Gumby’s are.
    ——
    This packer fan will give them nothing but props…but don’t you think it’s kind of ironic for YOU to be talking about packer fans trashing anything considering the work you do in our comment sections? Kind of a pot and kettle situation there, no?

  12. This game hinges on Keenum. First playoff game, probably got the jitters. If he plays a clean game the vikes should win, but if he throws a couple picks, its probably New Orleans game to lose.

  13. The only difference in this game is Vikings defense is a ton better than week one, but the Saints are still the same team. Trust me they’re not any different than week one, just different play calls with same players and Brees choking when it count the most. With super loud crowd Brees won’t hear dang thing and before he knows he’ll be laying on the turf. Better watch out for collar bone break like Erin.

  14. Please let it be a good game.

    Steelers/Jaguars awful
    Patriots/Titans awful
    Eagles/Falcons awful

  15. When watching the Saints, Panthers game did anyone else wonder if Payton had to run to the Dollar Store to get those god-awful glasses he was wearing?

  16. Why are the Saints the same team? Karma has emerged as a super star since that game. AP is not on the team so no forcing it with him. The CB that gave up all the yards is cut. The other CB is #3 behind Lattimore and Crawley. The Saints got into the red zone 5 times in the first game. 1 TD. If they punched in 2 of the other 4 times they were in the red zone they would have won the 1st game too. Bradford isn’t playing and neither is Cook.

  17. I’d like to see the Vikings defense do to Brees what they did to Newton when they shut him down and battered him unmercifully last year or whenever that game was. Hunter crashed the line and decapitated him in the end-zone for a safety.

    It’ll be a dog-fight for sure.

  18. Drew Bree’s said there is a difference between night & day for one Sam Bradford & Davlin Cook want be starting.Yes this going to be a difference game this is not regular season anymore Vikings this is playoffs time,and you gotta know how to win you been in the playoffs but never won that is the difference knowing how to win.

  19. The way Brees carried his team on his back last weekend wes truly impressive, you just can’t count that guy out.

  20. Brees is the one QB I would have preferred the Vikes not to have to play in the NFC playoffs. He is every bit as good as Brady. Strength (Saints O) vs strength (Vikes D)….the home field should provide the edge the Vikes need. If Keenum loses a low scoring game…..goodbye! He worries me beyond belief. With that said, the Saints D gave up plenty of yards to arguably the worst WR corp in football and most inconsistent QB. X-factor….Carolina had Matt Kalil, Vikes have a very solid Rieff at LT.

  21. Vikings have a lot of demons to exorcise before they earn respect. Think about how many talking heads have been burned by hitching their wagon to the Vikings. With that said, as a vikings fan, I know the other shoe could drop at any given moment now that the playoffs have started. I’m going to just relax and enjoy what should be a good game. Brees is so good. And I like Cam Jordan. He is a good player. His Grade A smack talk to Matt Kalil was hilarious. And I used to cheer for his dad Steve many moons ago. Hoping for a Vikings win but ready for any outcome.

  22. An interesting thing about that Vikings 29-19 win is that the 19 points scored by the Saints is the most the Vikings have given up at home this year. Please note that the score was 29-12 until the Saints scored a meaningless TD against a prevent defense with 1:56 left. Outside of the weird 14-7 loss to the Lions in Week 4, the fewest number of points scored by the Vikings at home is 23.

    The defense lining up against the Saints this week will be the same one that lined up against them in Week 1, so they know it won’t be easy to score against them. I have a lot of respect for the Saints, but the Vikings are so tough at home and have been getting better as the season has gone along. I’ll say 23-17 Vikings.

  23. I give the advantage to the Vikings,Their defense, and the home crowd noise is second to none . Their Defense is solid from the D-line back to Safety and the place is deafening to visiting teams. The Vikings also have their own two headed monster in Murray & Mckinnon.

  24. ol!

    codylaws says:

    January 9, 2018 at 11:20 am

    The only difference in this game is Vikings defense is a ton better than week one, but the Saints are still the same team. Trust me they’re not any different than week one, just different play calls with same players and Brees choking when it count the most. With super loud crowd Brees won’t hear dang thing and before he knows he’ll be laying on the turf. Better watch out for collar bone break like Erin.

    Actually, I watched that game. The Saints were missing their starting tackles on offense and the Vikings capitalized on that. Now the Saints have their starting tackles back, so it will be tougher for them to get edge pressure. This should make it a more even game, and I think Brees will be the difference in a close Saints win. There are ways to mitigate the crowd noise(silent counts, hand signals , etc). I don’t see that as being a big problem.

  25. Any true Vikings fan knows about the Vikings ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in the most painful heart breaking ways. So I will never, ever call them a lock to win any game. I truly hope they win this game, the NFCCG & the Super Bowl in their own stadium to make history. I feel the Vikings are the most deserving team to win out of the remaining teams in both the AFC & NFC. Please, please, please win. If the Vikings do loose, it won’t shock me at all and it will just be added on to all the other losses and disappointing endings to seasons that has become the Vikings lore.

  26. He’s right on the differences from week #1, but that’s a double edged sword. I think these are the 2 best teams in the NFCN and its a shame this isn’t the NFC Championship game. It will be interesting seeing a top offense compete against the top defense, but the difference in the game will be how the Vikes offense and the Saints defense match up. If this game were in New Orleans, the Saints would have the edge. It isn’t, so they don’t — regardless of the changes since week #1.

  27. I sense quite a bit of arrogance from the Viking fans on here. You better hope your team doesn’t take the Saints as lightly as most of you seem to. One would think with the Vikings playoff history that wouldn’t happen. Good luck!

  28. demo1984 says:
    January 9, 2018 at 10:19 am
    Brees is right it is different. The Vikings defense is even better than it was week one.

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    Yep and both the Saints’ defense and offense are much better. Your receivers won’t be running wide open like they did in Week I. I’ll take Kamara vs Barr or any other LB or safety on the Vikings.

    The last game of the regular season, at home, the Vikings only beat a one dimensional Bears team by 13 points. The Vikings played their starters because they needed to keep the #2 seed. But SOME delusional Vikings fans want folks to believe, you’re going to blowout the Saints and we’ll be lucky to score 16 points. I don’t see the Saints going 1/5 in the red zone, like we did in Week I and I’ll bet Zimmer isn’t banking on that either. Your defense is definitely more solid than ours but I don’t see us getting blown out or the Vikings even winning UNLESS they get turnovers.

    I reckon those guys in the desert don’t see a blowout either since the Vikings are only favored by 3.5.

  29. Are Vikings fans still trying to sell this fraud defense? Browns, ravens, Bengals, Rodgers less packers, trubisky bears, no run game lions. 9 games against below average offenses. Panthers went over 30, redskins got 30, Steelers got 26. Any decent offense they played scored. Saints will roll this week. Who Dat! Wait they did stop the rams. So there’s that. Smh

  30. Whodat — most Vikes fans aren’t too arrogant, see this game as a toss-up, with the Vikings home field advantage being the difference. And by the way, your team only scored 20 in beating the Bears by 8 points, so be careful when you compare apples to apples.

  31. Minny fans are either over confident or just not intelligent. That first game might as well of been two seasons ago. Either way you look at it both of these teams are different. Bradford and Cook are gone but Keenum has played well. We’ll see how he plays with a super bowl trip on the line. Those other rbs aren’t even in the same sentence as cook so don’t even waste your breath. Imo this is going to be a scary close game and to me the saints just have way too many injuries and their depth is suffering because of it. All of this talk of a blowout makes me realize that Minny fans may have a huge drug problem.

  32. screamingyellowzonkers says:
    January 9, 2018 at 10:48 am
    The packer fan requirement that a Super Bowl has to be won order to get respect.
    //////////////////////////////////

    Not true. Transferring and denying the truth and putting words in my mouth is Fake News, which is a Viking troll mainstay.

    Packer fans respect all SuperBowl winners, Viking included (if they should be so fortunate.)

    But don’t overlook the “rules” made just for the Packers by frustrated and jealous Vikingbfans over the years: “Once qualified for the postseason, anything less than winning the SuperBowl is a choke.” Those are your rules, nobody else’s.

    You’re afraid you’ll have to play by your own silly rules. That’s a legitimate fear.

    Good luck! Don’t choke!

  33. doubleogator says:
    January 9, 2018 at 11:28 am

    Keenum or Brees in a must win game take your pick…

    ÷÷÷÷

    I’ll take the Vikes D.

  34. stellarperformance says:
    January 9, 2018 at 12:43 pm
    screamingyellowzonkers says:
    January 9, 2018 at 10:48 am
    The packer fan requirement that a Super Bowl has to be won order to get respect.
    //////////////////////////////////

    Not true. Transferring and denying the truth and putting words in my mouth is Fake News, which is a Viking troll mainstay.

    Packer fans respect all SuperBowl winners
    —–
    Couldnt make it past 2 sentences without contradicting yourself.

    Oh Packer fans…the world would be less comical without you guys in it.

  35. Whodat — most Vikes fans aren’t too arrogant, see this game as a toss-up, with the Vikings home field advantage being the difference. And by the way, your team only scored 20 in beating the Bears by 8 points, so be careful when you compare apples to apples.

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    Of course I can make the comparison because the Vikings are the greatest thing since the microwave oven and we’re the “Aints, as many, excluding you have said. And that’s why I made sure I used SOME. Before that Bears game, I told a friend that I was nervous about it because they were playing good defense and I didn’t see the blowout that he saw.

  36. Last time I heard this kind of arrogant smack talk from Vikings fans about the certainty of them winning was before the 2009 NFC Championship game

    ….and then again before the 2010 season opener…

    ….and then again in 2011 when the Saints pasted 42-2- in the Metrodome

    …..and then again in 2014 when the Saints beat them 20-9

  37. whodat5150 says:
    January 9, 2018 at 12:20 pm

    The last game of the regular season, at home, the Vikings only beat a one dimensional Bears team by 13 points. The Vikings played their starters because they needed to keep the #2 seed.
    ____________

    Are you seriously ripping the Vikings for only beating the Bears by 13 points (their only TD was on a trick play punt return) in Week 17 when the Saints actually lost to a worse Bucs team the same day? They knew they might need that win to win the division and they couldn’t do it.

  38. The Vikings defense is playing better than the did in Week 1.
    Oh, and they played pretty well in that game too.

    It’s all on the Keener to bring us a winner.

    All we want is a properly officiated playoff contest.

  39. I’ll admit I like the Saints but I don’t like Payton. I like Cam Jordan because he’s Steve Jordan’s kid and the hilarious new nickname he gave Matt Kalil (Speedbump McGee). Kamera is fun to watch too. That being said this Viking defense is peaking at the right time. If the Saints get behind by 10 or more early it will be a route.

  40. The sun rises & sets as the night arrives. Just like everyday; same result. Therefore, saints* will lose again.

  41. stellarperformance says:
    January 9, 2018 at 12:43 pm

    Packer fans respect all SuperBowl winners
    ———-
    LMAO at you.
    According to you, you will respect if……wait for it……..
    The Vikings win the Super Bowl.
    That’s your own rule that you just posted.

    BTW, I was a fan in the 1970s and 80s when the favorite packer claim was “11 world championships.”
    I dealt with this packer fan requirement long before PFT came along.

  42. ratedgap says:
    January 9, 2018 at 12:27 pm

    Are Vikings fans still trying to sell this fraud defense? Browns, ravens, Bengals, Rodgers less packers, trubisky bears, no run game lions. 9 games against below average offenses. Panthers went over 30, redskins got 30, Steelers got 26. Any decent offense they played scored. Saints will roll this week. Who Dat! Wait they did stop the rams. So there’s that. Smh

    ÷÷÷÷

    Vikings also held the defending NFC Champion Falcons to 3 field goals in Atlanta (and won). The Saints gave up 20 points and lost in Atlanta.

  43. redlikethepig says:

    January 9, 2018 at 10:30 am

    “Brees was having trouble communicating the first time, Sunday will be impossible to hear anything!”

    And all this time I thought Seattle had the dumbest fans.
    ///////////////////
    Explain…

  44. ratedgap says:
    January 9, 2018 at 12:27 pm

    Are Vikings fans still trying to sell this fraud defense?
    //////////////
    You must not think much of your offense then.

    Is it even possible to call the #1 rated defense in the NFL a “fraud”?

  45. screamingyellowzonkers says:
    January 9, 2018 at 1:27 pm

    I dealt with this packer fan requirement long before PFT came along.
    ___________________________
    One would think you would be better adjusted to it. You seem to forget the endless mantra of “one-and-done” that you guys used right up until you got into the playoffs in 2016 and, you know, went one and done. Was that just a coincidence?

  46. teams average 12.5 points vs the Vikings at US Bank. That’s with a few garbage time TDs late and a punt return for a TD by the Bears. NO offense is above average but they still won’t score more than 20. And now way the Saints D, esp their weak LBs and they really only one quality CB in Lattimore, will hold the Vikings to less than 20 points. Good luck stopping both Thielen and Diggs, and I wouldn’t be shocked if Wright is a surprise WR star in this game. Also, with Peat out, Brees will see a lot of time on his back. SKOL!!!! Once again, 31-17 Vikings

  47. screamingyellowzonkers says:
    January 9, 2018 at 1:27 pm
    According to you, you will respect if……wait for it……..
    The Vikings win the Super Bowl.
    That’s your own rule that you just posted.
    ////////////////////////

    Why are you being obtuse? I will and always have respected SuperBowl winning teams. It’s YOU that hasn’t! (Example: Green Bay Packers.) If the Vikings win the SuperBowl, they will earn my respect. The “choking” moniker is an unfair and unreasonable rule Viking fans placed on the Packers for anything less than winning the SuperBowl. I didn’t create that ridiculous rule, but I do intend to use your own rule against you. You have the audacity to consider that unfair? Why?

  48. Brees will have to be on fire to win this game. But there is one thing he is not. And that is mobile. And there isn’t a faster defense in the NFL than the Vikings. Unless the Vikings d-backs get handsy and called for numerous PI’s, I don’t see Brees overcoming the Vikes D. It’s the playoffs man, anything could happen. You can never predict turnovers and injuries. But all things being equal, the Vikings win by 7 at home.

  49. I don’t know how anyone could call that defense a fraud. They’ve played well enough for long enough to be legit. That said, I believe of the 4 NFC teams that played this past weekend, New Orleans is the team they least wanted to see. Payton and Brees are both crafty and experienced. I believe Payton more capable than the other coaches to create a game plan for Zimmer’s aggressive defense and Brees has the best tools to execute it, Newton’s size and running ability notwithstanding.

    If Zimmer’s blitzes get home consistently, New Orleans will have a bad day. If Brees consistently carves those blitzes up with quick-hitters, Minnesota will have a bad day. If it’s some of this and some of that, as one would expect, it should be an exciting contest.

  50. packertruth says:
    January 9, 2018 at 1:50 pm
    screamingyellowzonkers says:
    January 9, 2018 at 1:27 pm

    I dealt with this packer fan requirement long before PFT came along.
    ___________________________
    One would think you would be better adjusted to it. You seem to forget the endless mantra of “one-and-done” that you guys used right up until you got into the playoffs in 2016 and, you know, went one and done. Was that just a coincidence?
    ———-
    So let me get this straight.
    You think that Vikings fans were the first ones to use “one and done” in 2016?

    Oh My !!!!!!

  51. diveleft says:
    January 9, 2018 at 1:38 pm
    ratedgap says:
    January 9, 2018 at 12:27 pm

    Are Vikings fans still trying to sell this fraud defense? Browns, ravens, Bengals, Rodgers less packers, trubisky bears, no run game lions. 9 games against below average offenses. Panthers went over 30, redskins got 30, Steelers got 26. Any decent offense they played scored. Saints will roll this week. Who Dat! Wait they did stop the rams. So there’s that. Smh

    ÷÷÷÷

    Vikings also held the defending NFC Champion Falcons to 3 field goals in Atlanta (and won). The Saints gave up 20 points and lost in Atlanta.
    ___________

    It may also be worth mentioning that the Vikings held the Rams, the highest-scoring team in the NFL, to 7 points. The Saints gave up 26 in a loss.

    Please note that I am not guaranteeing victory. Just helping to expose a clueless Saints fan.

  52. conormacleod says:

    January 9, 2018 at 1:49 pm

    ratedgap says:
    January 9, 2018 at 12:27 pm

    Are Vikings fans still trying to sell this fraud defense?
    //////////////
    You must not think much of your offense then.

    Is it even possible to call the #1 rated defense in the NFL a “fraud”?

    *****************************************

    Yeah it is. Look at their schedule. At least 11 games against the worst offenses in the league. Two teams with decent offenses, Panthers and Redskins got 30. Steelers got 26. It’s not that hard. They held the Rams, but so did the Falcons last week. We see quickly they were a lot of smoke and mirrors. So the only game against a good offense that they did well was the Falcons. Completely unimpressed.
    Easy to be “#1” playing nobody.

  53. In Teddy We Trust says:

    January 9, 2018 at 2:17 pm

    diveleft says:
    January 9, 2018 at 1:38 pm
    ratedgap says:
    January 9, 2018 at 12:27 pm

    Are Vikings fans still trying to sell this fraud defense? Browns, ravens, Bengals, Rodgers less packers, trubisky bears, no run game lions. 9 games against below average offenses. Panthers went over 30, redskins got 30, Steelers got 26. Any decent offense they played scored. Saints will roll this week. Who Dat! Wait they did stop the rams. So there’s that. Smh

    ÷÷÷÷

    Vikings also held the defending NFC Champion Falcons to 3 field goals in Atlanta (and won). The Saints gave up 20 points and lost in Atlanta.
    ___________

    It may also be worth mentioning that the Vikings held the Rams, the highest-scoring team in the NFL, to 7 points. The Saints gave up 26 in a loss.

    Please note that I am not guaranteeing victory. Just helping to expose a clueless Saints fan.

    **************************************

    It may also be worth noting the Falcons just held the Rams to what 13? At home? Mayhaps they weren’t as good as stats say. Interesting how that relates to Minnesota’s fraud defense quite readily.

  54. stellarperformance says:
    January 9, 2018 at 1:54 pm

    I will and always have respected SuperBowl winning teams. It’s YOU that hasn’t! (Example: Green Bay Packers.) If the Vikings win the SuperBowl, they will earn my respect.
    _______

    Here’s the thing: You think the Packers winning a Super Bowl means that the entire franchise and its fanbase are above criticism from any fan of a team that has not won a Super Bowl. That is ridiculous, especially when those fans are pointing out the same shortcomings of your franchise that you are currently pointing out.

    I respect the 2010 Packers for winning the Super Bowl. That doesn’t mean I have to believe that the 2017 Packers should have been Super Bowl favorites or that they weren’t a one-man team or that Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy were brilliant.

    If the Vikings win the Super Bowl this year, I will expect you to respect that team. I don’t expect that respect to extend to every other season, and I certainly don’t expect you to respect me just because the team I liked won a game.

  55. screamingyellowzonkers says:
    January 9, 2018 at 2:12 pm
    So let me get this straight.
    You think that Vikings fans were the first ones to use “one and done” in 2016?
    __________________________________
    Well at least you are trying. No sir, you guys finally gave that tired refrain a rest after 2016. From 2011 to 2016 you used it incessantly.

  56. This game isn’t about revenge. This Vikings team isn’t playing for the past. This team is playing for the right here and now. This defense has gotten more balanced and better all year. Keenum has brought things to this team that Bradford didn’t really have – mobility being one thing that really helped when the offensive line had to shuffle due to injuries. Murray played injured last year for the Raiders. He came to the Vikings with them knowing he may need surgery. In the past four games I have seen Murray getting better and stronger. He rarely gets driven backwards and generally falls forwards for that extra yard or two. The Saints have not played a team like this current Vikings team all season, and I truly believe that they will be beaten by a Vikings team who has not been given an ounce of respect all year! Even when they beat the Saints the media won’t be saying how great the Vikings are, they’ll be talking about how the future is so bright for the Saints and that there are so many positives to be gained from the loss. The Vikings will move on to the Championship game and if the Falcons are thre it will start all over again. Julio Jones is amazing and no way can Rhodes contain him like he did in the first game. Ryan is back to being Matty Ice and he will play lights out and the Vikings won’t get the pressure on him like they did before… The Vikings are here and they are here to stay!

  57. If Vikings fans are confident in their teams chances- they are considered over-confident and arrogant. Much to your chagrin- the Viking’s fans won’t actually be on the field during the game. Zimmer and staff will have the team ready to play.

    Keenum has strived very well under pressure ALL season long. If he had no pressure- then I’d worry. He’ll be fine. Keenum is moble and can make big plays with his legs- something Sam could not do if his life depended on it. Keenum’s mobility gives the Saints one more thing to have to defend when compared to Bradford. I will take Keenum vs. Saints D over Brees vs. Vikings D. with Vikings at home.

    Many passes were dropped by the Panthers receivers vs. Saints. If a couple of those passes were caught- it’s a totally different game. And this was in YOUR HOUSE. This is not going to happen with the Vikings receiving core.

    Last time the Saints played the Vikings at US Bank stadium it took Brees until the 2 minute warning to get into the endzone. If you can’t improve on that you don’t even belong in the playoffs.

    Let’s have an injury-free game.

  58. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    January 9, 2018 at 2:26 pm

    Team A beat team B.

    Team B beat team C.

    Team C beat team A.

    Which team is best?
    ________

    Since you’re asking the question, the answer must be the Packers.

  59. This will be a bruiser. Saints don’t match up well against the Vikings. Vikings do match up well against the Saints. Rhodes will lock up Thomas like a pickle jar and probably hit him hard a few times. Against Caronlina, Brees threw to the middle of the field most of the time, against MN Sendejo and Smith will crush those throws. Vikings will make him throw outside the numbers and make him throw perfect passes. It’ll be tough for New Orleans.
    Vikings offense matches up well against Saints defense and we have a grinding running game that wears you out.
    It’ll be a darn good game, but I think the Vikings will come out on top. If they do, punch your ticket to the big dance cause it’s ON!!! SKOL!!
    ________________________________________________________

    The Vikings are very talented on defense, but you’re only pointing to the passing game. If Rhodes is locked onto Michael Thomas, who is gonna lock down Ginn on the deep balls? And that isn’t even the Saints focus – they have a few folks out of the backfield by the names of Ingram & Kamara that is the primary piece of marching down the field.

    The Vikings best hope is to slam Murray all day – the Saints are more susceptible to the run. Either way it will be a great game…the NFC always has the late games because the AFC games are so weak.

  60. allight59 says:
    January 9, 2018 at 1:54 pm
    teams average 12.5 points vs the Vikings at US Bank. That’s with a few garbage time TDs late and a punt return for a TD by the Bears. NO offense is above average but they still won’t score more than 20. And now way the Saints D, esp their weak LBs and they really only one quality CB in Lattimore, will hold the Vikings to less than 20 points. Good luck stopping both Thielen and Diggs, and I wouldn’t be shocked if Wright is a surprise WR star in this game. Also, with Peat out, Brees will see a lot of time on his back. SKOL!!!! Once again, 31-17 Vikings

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    Pretty good summation, but I expect a good game that is closer. Also, Peat being out is more of a blow to the Saints running game. In week 1, New Orleans was without their true starting LT (Armstead) and he’ll play this time around. And, the Vikings recorded just one sack in that one as well.

  61. stellarperformance says:
    January 9, 2018 at 1:54

    Why are you being obtuse? I will and always have respected SuperBowl winning teams.
    ——————-
    Which means, you have no respect for the Vikings since they haven’t won a Super Bowl.
    Add that with your “57 years of mediocrity” statements and it’s clear that it’s a packer fan requirement. You have just posted your Super Bowl requirement twice, while blaming it on Vikings fans.

    You are being purposely obtuse.

  62. Simply Keep On Losing. SKOL!! We won’t have to hear from Vikings fans again after Sunday thank goodness. They smash the browns offense and think they are legit. They somehow have fooled themselves into case keenum and latavius Murray. They’re about to get knocked upside the head by this historically great offense. Cant wait for the excuses

  63. @ratedgap –

    You’re embarassing your fanbase. Every team in the NFL plays a lot of bad teams. If the Vikings’ defense is fraudulent, so is the defense for every other team that finished behind them in both points per game and yards per game.

    You’re not impressed with the Vikings holding the Rams to 7 points because the Falcons held them to 13? The Rams scored 27 against the Jaguars, 26 against the Saints, 35 against the Eagles, and 42 against the Seahawks. Those are all highly rated defenses.

    So there were a few games where the Vikings gave up some points. Find me any team in the NFL that didn’t have a few games where they gave up a lot of points. The next best defense, the Jaguars, gave up 37 to the Titans, 27 to the Cardinals, and 44 to the 49ers. Offensive juggernauts, all.

  64. ratedgap says:

    January 9, 2018 at 2:23 pm

    In Teddy We Trust says:

    January 9, 2018 at 2:17 pm

    diveleft says:
    January 9, 2018 at 1:38 pm
    ratedgap says:
    January 9, 2018 at 12:27 pm

    Are Vikings fans still trying to sell this fraud defense? Browns, ravens, Bengals, Rodgers less packers, trubisky bears, no run game lions. 9 games against below average offenses. Panthers went over 30, redskins got 30, Steelers got 26. Any decent offense they played scored. Saints will roll this week. Who Dat! Wait they did stop the rams. So there’s that. Smh

    ÷÷÷÷

    Vikings also held the defending NFC Champion Falcons to 3 field goals in Atlanta (and won). The Saints gave up 20 points and lost in Atlanta.
    ___________

    It may also be worth mentioning that the Vikings held the Rams, the highest-scoring team in the NFL, to 7 points. The Saints gave up 26 in a loss.

    Please note that I am not guaranteeing victory. Just helping to expose a clueless Saints fan.

    **************************************

    It may also be worth noting the Falcons just held the Rams to what 13? At home? Mayhaps they weren’t as good as stats say. Interesting how that relates to Minnesota’s fraud defense quite readily.

    ————–

    Yes and Atlanta has a top defense (look it up), and playoff experience. The Vikings defense is not Fraud. Atlanta is actually a very scary team in the playoffs this year. Very balanced. Possibly more balanced than NO and MIN. They have a top 10 offense and defense. Vikings have a top defense and a #11 ranked offense.

  65. ratedgap says:

    January 9, 2018 at 2:22 pm

    conormacleod says:

    January 9, 2018 at 1:49 pm

    ratedgap says:
    January 9, 2018 at 12:27 pm

    Are Vikings fans still trying to sell this fraud defense?
    //////////////
    You must not think much of your offense then.

    Is it even possible to call the #1 rated defense in the NFL a “fraud”?

    *****************************************

    Yeah it is. Look at their schedule. At least 11 games against the worst offenses in the league. Two teams with decent offenses, Panthers and Redskins got 30. Steelers got 26. It’s not that hard. They held the Rams, but so did the Falcons last week. We see quickly they were a lot of smoke and mirrors. So the only game against a good offense that they did well was the Falcons. Completely unimpressed.
    Easy to be “#1” playing nobody.
    ————-

    Do you know who the Vikings didn’t lose to this year? Below .500 teams like the Saints. The Siants lost to the BUCS. So we are going to Pick on the Vikings loss to the Steelers where Case got word he was starting 5 min before the game? lol. ok. Or how about the Vikings kept Panthers to 2 yards a Carry except for 2 plays in the game? Ok.

    Saints fans have every reason to be confident in their team, but to say the #1 ranked defense is fraud is ridiculous. It’s like us Vikings fans saying the Saints don’t have a good offense. That is simply not true. Get over it, and admit this game won’t be easy for your team, or ours.

  66. Lol. Embarrassing the fan base? One of your fans just made a hurricane reference. Get real. There’s a difference between giving up points to one team and giving up points to 3 of the 5 top offenses you faced, while holding the scrubs. And believe me in week 1 the saints were scrubs trying to give the ball to Peterson. I hear all this defense take and it’s amusing. I’m just pointing it out. The Vikings mainly faced terrible offenses all year long. And when they didnt they didn’t fair so well. Legit to point that out.

  67. ratedgap says:

    January 9, 2018 at 12:27 pm

    Are Vikings fans still trying to sell this fraud defense? Browns, ravens, Bengals, Rodgers less packers, trubisky bears, no run game lions. 9 games against below average offenses. Panthers went over 30, redskins got 30, Steelers got 26. Any decent offense they played scored. Saints will roll this week. Who Dat! Wait they did stop the rams. So there’s that. Smh

    ———–

    Also do you realize one thing in common in all those games where teams scored more?

    They were away games. Is this game on Sunday away? Nope.

  68. @aj

    Call it like I see it. Admit your team played mainly subpar offenses all year then we can talk. Otherwise it’s all delusion. Unless you wanna upsell the browns, ravens, bears, Bengals, and Rodgers less packers. The saints have a historically great offense since getting rid of Peterson. Imagine if they hadn’t wasted those first two games on him. Vikings defense is good but it’d propped up by playing bad teams. Facts is facts

  69. “This tem beat that team and you didn’t.” “Yeah but only 5 points to our 14.” Neither team is the same team that met in week 1. No teams playing this far apart are. No one knows the final score. I’m hoping for a well executed game with good refs so it’s an enjoyable football GAME.

  70. In Teddy We Trust says:
    January 9, 2018 at 1:17 pm
    whodat5150 says:
    January 9, 2018 at 12:20 pm

    The last game of the regular season, at home, the Vikings only beat a one dimensional Bears team by 13 points. The Vikings played their starters because they needed to keep the #2 seed.
    ____________

    Are you seriously ripping the Vikings for only beating the Bears by 13 points (their only TD was on a trick play punt return) in Week 17 when the Saints actually lost to a worse Bucs team the same day? They knew they might need that win to win the division and they couldn’t do it.
    ———————-
    I’m just going to say this about the last 3 Vikings games:.They looked to me as being vanilla, preseason, Zim not wanting to give away much in anticipation of the playoffs. The team was WAY TOO conservative on both sides of the ball. They just did enough to win without causing injury to the players. Maybe I’m wrong, but it’s what I saw, and I stand by it.

  71. ratedgap says:

    January 9, 2018 at 3:32 pm

    Lol. Embarrassing the fan base? One of your fans just made a hurricane reference. Get real. There’s a difference between giving up points to one team and giving up points to 3 of the 5 top offenses you faced, while holding the scrubs. And believe me in week 1 the saints were scrubs trying to give the ball to Peterson. I hear all this defense take and it’s amusing. I’m just pointing it out. The Vikings mainly faced terrible offenses all year long. And when they didnt they didn’t fair so well. Legit to point that out.

    ——

    The same can said about the Saints “Improved Defense”. Most of those weeks where they dominated, were against the Bills, Fins, Jets, etc. Should I be impressed? And who have the Saints beaten that are more impressive than the Vikings? You beat the Panthers 3 times, which is impressive I’ll give them that, but you can argue the amount of playoff teams the Saints played are equal or less than the Vikings. Is it our fault that there were 3 teams in our division that went to the playoffs? The Vikings defense is good, it’s actually been good for 3 years, but unlike the past. The fact is the Vikings have shut down studs like Gurley (MVP candidate if you haven’t heard)Bell, Freemen, along with WR Studs Antonio Brown, AJ Green, Thomas, Julio Jones.

    Think what you want but they are a good defense. How about the fact they are the best 3rd down defense is the history of the NFL. Look it up. I’m not predicting a Vikings win or a Saints loss here or calling your team trash. I’m just pointing out how sill your post is.

    Bot the Saints and Vikings played Subpar teams sprinkled in with some impressive wins. That is a fact. So saying one team is trash vs. the other is ridiculous. Both teams are very balanced. Yes Brees is good in a dome, but the Vikings defense is averaging 13 points a game at home.

  72. @aj

    Hold on bub. Didn’t say the Vikings were trash, but there were enough “Vikings smash Saints can’t match” posts on here where I felt the need to make note of how many subpar offenses they actually faced. So I called them frauds. Hyperbole, yes. But hyperbole was given so hyperbole was returned. Fact of the matter is, in the division we are in, the Saints had a tougher road to get here then the Vikes, especially after opening the season in a two game hole. So they aren’t gonna roll over simply cause the Vikes on paper have a top flight defense. We’ll see what happens, but I feel the Saints offense is more true to where they are than the Vikes defense is at this point. If they prove me wrong they prove me wrong, but I don’t think they will.

  73. ratedgap says:
    January 9, 2018 at 4:25 pm
    @aj

    Hold on bub. Didn’t say the Vikings were trash, but there were enough “Vikings smash Saints can’t match” posts on here where I felt the need to make note of how many subpar offenses they actually faced. So I called them frauds. Hyperbole, yes. But hyperbole was given so hyperbole was returned. Fact of the matter is, in the division we are in, the Saints had a tougher road to get here then the Vikes, especially after opening the season in a two game hole. So they aren’t gonna roll over simply cause the Vikes on paper have a top flight defense. We’ll see what happens, but I feel the Saints offense is more true to where they are than the Vikes defense is at this point. If they prove me wrong they prove me wrong, but I don’t think they will.

    ———–

    I agree that the Saints had a tougher rode. For sure. But still foolish to discount a good defense. This defense has been built for the past 4 years. It’s only getting reconize now Yes if a few things go the other way it might not be #1, but it could still easily be a top 5.

    Nobody should say the Vikings will roll because it’s a top flight defense. It’s #1 Defense against #2 offense. Anything can happen.

    Yes it’s very true the Saints Offense is great, Brees is a stud. This viking defense didn’t happen over night. Defense has been the identity of this team like offense is the identity of the Saints for a few years now. For the past 4 years Zimmer has built this defense and it has been a top 10 defense 3 out of 4 years.

    The deciding factor of this game is the weak parts of the teams that held them back last year. The Improved Saints Defense (#17) against the Improved Vikings Offense (#11)

    The Vikings Defense and Saints Defense will most likely cancel each other out. First team to reach 24 probably wins. Depends on how the “Improved” parts of the team perform.

  74. ratedgap – The Vikings Defense and Saints Offense will most likely cancel each other out. First team to reach 24 probably wins. Depends on how the “Improved” parts of the team perform.

  75. aj – you’re probably right. It’ll most likely come down to Saints D vs Vikes O. We’re down 4 starters at this point of the year so that may be an advantage to the Vikes. But the parts that are left have held up fairly well when they needed to. Keenum has been far better than expected admittedly. Rust a factor? Special teams? Could be either. Let’s get to Sunday.

  76. This is hilarious. Go check out the touchdowns the Vikings gave up at home this year. The defense gave up two…count ’em…two meaningful touchdowns, meaning the touchdown was scored when the outcome of the game was still in doubt.

    The first was in Week 4 against Detroit. With the Vikings leading 7-6, the Lions scored a touchdown on a 30-yard drive following a Dalvin Cook fumble on the play on which he tore his ACL.

    The second was in Week 11 against the Rams. The Rams drove 75 yards for a TD on their first drive of the game. They never scored again.

    Every other touchdown was scored after the Vikings had such a big lead that it was impossible to lose. I hope your kicker is accurate.

  77. Don’t play yourself. Born and raised a who dat. But I remember 2009 and the vikes fans comments then. Hurricane jokes aplenty. I take great pleasure anytime the team fails since then. I’m definitely biased. But the closest I come to being a packer fan is Aaron Rodgers was my fantasy qb.

  78. Great. So the browns couldn’t score on you at home. I’m impressed. Smh

    ——–

    Browns game was in London, mr. clueless….do you even watch the games or think before you post?

  79. You got to play the Bucs twice. And lost once. 10 days ago.

    They didn’t play the Browns at home. You know who they did play at home? The Saints. But I forgot, that game doesn’t count. Remind me again when the games started meaning something?

  80. datdude84 says:
    January 9, 2018 at 12:41 pm
    …All of this talk of a blowout makes me realize that Minny fans may have a huge drug problem.

    ——–

    datdude84, you have the quote of the year, sir!

    Viking fans apparently forget that the Saints two superstar rookies, Kamara & Lattimore, weren’t big factors week 1. That is to be expected when it’s the first game of their professional careers. They are going to be a MUCH bigger factor this game.

    Hopefully the Saints are looking to my Detroit Lions as prime examples of how to beat the Vikings in THEIR house, as we are undefeated there – in fact, we held the Vikings to only 7 points the last time we were at US Bank Stadium.

    WHO DAT / ROAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  81. Le’Veon Bell had 87 yards on 27 carries. Antonio Brown had 62 yards on 11 catches in the Pittsburgh game. But the Vikings defense is a product of playing weak teams all year to some football experts here.

  82. That’s what we’re down to now? Browns game was in London? Lmao. Facts hurt. Vikes played a murderers row of scrub offenses and now they’re all world. Ah well. To be expected from a fan base that thinks hurricane jokes are fair game Smh

  83. In Teddy We Trust says:
    January 9, 2018 at 2:47 pm
    The Almighty Cabbage says:
    January 9, 2018 at 2:26 pm

    Team A beat team B.

    Team B beat team C.

    Team C beat team A.

    Which team is best?
    ________

    Since you’re asking the question, the answer must be the Packers.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Nope. Just pointing out the absurdity of your pencil measuring contest.

  84. datdude84 says:
    January 9, 2018 at 12:41 pm
    …All of this talk of a blowout makes me realize that Minny fans may have a huge drug problem.

    ———————————

    It’s not like we raid the team medical facility for Vicodin or anything…

  85. Vikes played a murderers row of scrub offenses and now they’re all world.
    —————————-

    You mean the NFC South teams that were on our schedule?
    The ones the Saints played 6 games against?

  86. You mean the NFC South teams that were on our schedule?
    The ones the Saints played 6 games against?

    ————————————————-

    You mean the only division that had three teams in the playoffs and represented the nfc in the Superbowl the last two years? Remind me how many nfc north teams made the playoffs…., Scratch that. Remind me how many finished top 20 in offense. I’ll wait

  87. ratedgap says:

    January 9, 2018 at 5:30 pm

    Bengals, dead last in offense in the NFL. Chicago, 30th. Ravens, 27th, packers 26th. Haven’t even gotten to the browns yet. Yikes.

    ______________________________________________________________________

    Maybe those teams rank so low offensively because they played the Vikings…………..

    Super Bowl homeboy!!

  88. You mean the NFC South teams that were on our schedule?
    The ones the Saints played 6 games against?

    ————————————————-

    You mean the only division that had three teams in the playoffs and represented the nfc in the Superbowl the last two years? Remind me how many nfc north teams made the playoffs…., Scratch that. Remind me how many finished top 20 in offense. I’ll wait
    ————————————-

    You said the Vikings played weak teams — I’m just curious if those weak teams included the NFC South teams or not, that’s all?

  89. You said the Vikings played weak teams — I’m just curious if those weak teams included the NFC South teams or not, that’s all?

    ——————————————————

    Sure if playoff teams are weak teams. But no, mainly the terrible nfc north.

  90. I’m seeing Drew getting his second Super Bowl win in a few weeks. It certainly deserves it.

  91. The Saints were a .500 team on the road this year, including a loss to Tampa Bay in week 17 that could have cost them the division title. Yes Brees looked great against the Panthers, but I would caution prognosticators against reading too much into one game.

    Can the Saints win? Absolutely. But assuming Brees is going to shred the Viking defense because he shredded the Panthers last Sunday is a mistake. This is the most complete and united Viking team since the Bud Grant era. That defense is number one for a reason. The key to this game for the Vikings is whether their offense produces in typical fashion, which outside of the loss to Detroit loss was solid and consistently productive on their home field.

  92. @aj, may not be an away game, but it is in a dome. We love domes as you may know…my memory of that loss in the Seattle dome as a favorite a few years ago must be a false memory, huh?

  93. doubleogator says:
    January 9, 2018 at 11:28 am

    Keenum or Brees in a must win game take your pick…
    )))))))))))))))))
    Vikings or Saints in a must game what defense do you want- take your pick …

  94. ratedgap says:

    January 9, 2018 at 7:38 pm

    You mean the NFC South teams that were on our schedule?
    The ones the Saints played 6 games against?

    ————————————————-

    You mean the only division that had three teams in the playoffs and represented the nfc in the Superbowl the last two years? Remind me how many nfc north teams made the playoffs…., Scratch that. Remind me how many finished top 20 in offense. I’ll wait.

    —————————-

    The whole who played, what, and you schedule is weak, is stupid. Good teams are suppose to be bad teams and they are supposed to be good teams to. The Vikings have beat bad team and good teams to. Does anything even think that maybe some of these “bad” teams wouldn’t be bad if Teams like the Vikigns wouldn’t beat up on them? Yes the NFC North had a down year, but the Lions were not a bad team this year. They were one bad play away from beating the Falcons, and they were very close to beating the Saints. This is the first year the NFC North has not produced two playoff teams in like 5 years.

    If anything the Saints should be thanking the Vikings. If Rodgers played this year, it’ possible the Saints lose to them and have lower Seeding. They don’t get their dome home game, and probably lose in the first round. lol. The Saints schedule was not anymore impressive.

    Also the Vikings have had to deal with way more injuries vs the Saints have been healthy almost all year. Would the Saints be this good with Case Keenum? I doubt it.

  95. theyearofthecat1 says:

    January 9, 2018 at 6:09 pm

    datdude84 says:
    January 9, 2018 at 12:41 pm
    …All of this talk of a blowout makes me realize that Minny fans may have a huge drug problem.

    ——–

    datdude84, you have the quote of the year, sir!

    Viking fans apparently forget that the Saints two superstar rookies, Kamara & Lattimore, weren’t big factors week 1. That is to be expected when it’s the first game of their professional careers. They are going to be a MUCH bigger factor this game.

    Hopefully the Saints are looking to my Detroit Lions as prime examples of how to beat the Vikings in THEIR house, as we are undefeated there – in fact, we held the Vikings to only 7 points the last time we were at US Bank Stadium.

    WHO DAT / ROAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ————

    The Whole “Kamar and Ingram was not a factor in week 1” is so pointless. Yes they are better. Yes they have a better identify. But to me how is this any different than how the Vikings shut down Bell, Gurley, Freemen all almost all Running Back’s this year except for a weird day against Jonathan Stuart? lol. The Saints may score a bit more earlier in the game because with their better identity. Yes it’s true.

    But what Saints don’t get, is the Vikings defense is even better than it was back than to. It’s the #2 rushing defense. #2 Pass defense. I agree the Run game is better in the Saints, but the Vikings have been very successful against the run all season except one weird day in Carolina. And even in that game, if you take 2 plays away, they kept the rushing offense to 2 yards a Carry.

    I think if anything is different than week 1 it’s that the Saints defense is actually decent and not complete garbage like last year. That could be a X-factor.

  96. fwippel says:

    January 9, 2018 at 9:40 pm

    That defense is number one for a reason.

    ********************************************************************************

    Yes. The reason is 11 of your 16 games were against terrible to below average offenses. And my Saints pitiful showing in week 1 is one of the 11. We were terrible the first two weeks trying to fit Adrian Peterson in.

  97. In Teddy We Trust says:
    January 9, 2018 at 2:24 pm
    stellarperformance says:
    January 9, 2018 at 1:54 pm

    I will and always have respected SuperBowl winning teams. It’s YOU that hasn’t! (Example: Green Bay Packers.) If the Vikings win the SuperBowl, they will earn my respect.
    _______

    Here’s the thing: You think the Packers winning a Super Bowl means that the entire franchise and its fanbase are above criticism from any fan of a team that has not won a Super Bowl. That is ridiculous, especially when those fans are pointing out the same shortcomings of your franchise that you are currently pointing out.

    I respect the 2010 Packers for winning the Super Bowl. That doesn’t mean I have to believe that the 2017 Packers should have been Super Bowl favorites or that they weren’t a one-man team or that Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy were brilliant.

    If the Vikings win the Super Bowl this year, I will expect you to respect that team. I don’t expect that respect to extend to every other season, and I certainly don’t expect you to respect me just because the team I liked won a game.

    ***

    *Slow clap*

  98. ratedgap says:
    January 9, 2018 at 3:20 pm

    Simply Keep On Losing. SKOL!!
    ))))))))))))
    We have seen this from the packer faithful all year every year for awhile now. Just brutal too. These fools think it’s good.

  99. ratedgap says:
    January 9, 2018 at 12:27 pm
    Are Vikings fans still trying to sell this fraud defense? Browns, ravens, Bengals, Rodgers less packers, trubisky bears, no run game lions. 9 games against below average offenses. Panthers went over 30, redskins got 30, Steelers got 26. Any decent offense they played scored. Saints will roll this week. Who Dat! Wait they did stop the rams. So there’s that. Smh

    ****
    All three of those games were on the road and Vikes lost two of them. Panthers game came down to the wire even after the Vikes had 4 turnovers.

  100. ratedgap says:
    January 10, 2018 at 9:10 am
    fwippel says:

    January 9, 2018 at 9:40 pm

    That defense is number one for a reason.

    ********************************************************************************

    Yes. The reason is 11 of your 16 games were against terrible to below average offenses. And my Saints pitiful showing in week 1 is one of the 11. We were terrible the first two weeks trying to fit Adrian Peterson in.

    ________

    Wow. It had nothing to due with the fact the Saints started the season against 2 very good teams, right? Oh, and it’s Petersons fault on top of that?

    Your Saints LOST to Tampa when they still needed the win. Your logic is beyond rediculous. What is your excuse for that game?

  101. ajzinnecker says:

    January 10, 2018 at 7:48 am

    Also the Vikings have had to deal with way more injuries vs the Saints have been healthy almost all year. Would the Saints be this good with Case Keenum? I doubt it.

    ———————————————————————

    The Saints have been healthy almost all year? They are down 4 starters on defense, two starting offensive lineman, Kamara missed two games with concussion(went out after two plays in the first game he got hit), have been without their starting LT for the majority of the year. Come on now.

  102. 13worldchampioinships says:

    January 10, 2018 at 9:24 am

    ratedgap says:
    January 9, 2018 at 12:27 pm
    Are Vikings fans still trying to sell this fraud defense? Browns, ravens, Bengals, Rodgers less packers, trubisky bears, no run game lions. 9 games against below average offenses. Panthers went over 30, redskins got 30, Steelers got 26. Any decent offense they played scored. Saints will roll this week. Who Dat! Wait they did stop the rams. So there’s that. Smh

    ****
    All three of those games were on the road and Vikes lost two of them. Panthers game came down to the wire even after the Vikes had 4 turnovers.

    —–

    Yes. you got to face mainly terrible offenses at home. I agree.

  103. mnvikes1961 says:

    January 10, 2018 at 9:45 am

    ratedgap says:
    January 10, 2018 at 9:10 am
    fwippel says:

    January 9, 2018 at 9:40 pm

    That defense is number one for a reason.

    ********************************************************************************

    Yes. The reason is 11 of your 16 games were against terrible to below average offenses. And my Saints pitiful showing in week 1 is one of the 11. We were terrible the first two weeks trying to fit Adrian Peterson in.

    ________

    Wow. It had nothing to due with the fact the Saints started the season against 2 very good teams, right? Oh, and it’s Petersons fault on top of that?

    Your Saints LOST to Tampa when they still needed the win. Your logic is beyond rediculous. What is your excuse for that game?

    ————

    Whoa now. Didn’t say it was Peterson’s fault. Read again. I said we were terrible trying to fit him in. Agree or disagree the offense has been world’s better since we traded him?

    As far as the Tampa game, we lost. It happens. Played Atlanta the week before, won, but suffered a let down against Tampa. Ok? So what’s your point? Did we not follow that up with a playoff win last week? stay current….

  104. ratedgap says:

    January 10, 2018 at 9:10 am

    fwippel says:

    January 9, 2018 at 9:40 pm

    That defense is number one for a reason.

    ********************************************************************************

    Yes. The reason is 11 of your 16 games were against terrible to below average offenses. And my Saints pitiful showing in week 1 is one of the 11. We were terrible the first two weeks trying to fit Adrian Peterson in.

    ————

    The Rams had one of the highest scoring teams in the League and had one touchdown against us. Atlanta has the best 3rd down offense. They scored no touchdowns. That’s two of the best offensive teams. Are they better than the Saints, NO, but they are good. To me Gurley, Bell, Freemen, are just as good rushing offenses as the Saints. All were held in check. Brees is a better QB thou.

    You really need to give this a rest. Have the Saints Offense faced any good defenses? Lets switch arguments. You believe the Saints offense are world beaters? What Elite Defenses have they faced? The overrated Panthers defense? Maybe the Bills. Apparently we can’t count the Vikings because game #1 doesn’t count at all. That’s two. Kind of like how we faced two good offenses from your standpoint. So it goes both ways. No teams faced above subpar teams all season long. But it’s all about how you do against the upper opponents. Good teams should beat up on bad teams which is exactly what the Saints and Vikings have done.

    So maybe they aren’t #1 due to padded stats from weak opponents. Are you going to say they aren’t at least #5 ranked defense? That would be like me saying the Saints offense doesn’t deserve to be #2 offense because it faced weak defensive opponents most of the season.

    I think you need to stop and just admit that both those sides are a strength for their team. Again the Vikings have been a #10 defense 3 out of the last 4 years so this is nothing new. The only reason the Vikings didn’t do well those past years was lack of offense, this year out of a miracle we are doing well offensively with Case freakin Keenum. Weird stuff. From your argument the Saints don’t deserve to be the #2 offense. I don’t think that. I think they absolutely deserve it. The Saints have always been good on offense But I’m just going off of your logic.

    Just because a team is great on defense doesn’t mean a offense can’t do well, and just because a team is good on offense doesn’t mean a good defense can’t do well, weather it be the #1 defense or #5.

  105. ratedgap says:
    January 10, 2018 at 10:40 am
    13worldchampioinships says:

    January 10, 2018 at 9:24 am

    ratedgap says:
    January 9, 2018 at 12:27 pm
    Are Vikings fans still trying to sell this fraud defense? Browns, ravens, Bengals, Rodgers less packers, trubisky bears, no run game lions. 9 games against below average offenses. Panthers went over 30, redskins got 30, Steelers got 26. Any decent offense they played scored. Saints will roll this week. Who Dat! Wait they did stop the rams. So there’s that. Smh

    ****
    All three of those games were on the road and Vikes lost two of them. Panthers game came down to the wire even after the Vikes had 4 turnovers.

    —–

    Yes. you got to face mainly terrible offenses at home. I agree.

    ***

    Saints Home Games:

    Patriots L (Pats put up 36 points)
    Tampa Bay (terrible offense…..oh wait, Saints lost to them week 17)
    Bears (terrible offense)
    Redskins (Red skins put up 31 points)*marginal offense
    JETS (terrible offense)
    LIONS (52-38 in a real “barn burner”)

    I’m sorry what point were you trying to make?

  106. ratedgap says:
    January 9, 2018 at 12:27 pm
    Are Vikings fans still trying to sell this fraud defense? Browns, ravens, Bengals, Rodgers less packers, trubisky bears, no run game lions. 9 games against below average offenses. Panthers went over 30, redskins got 30, Steelers got 26. Any decent offense they played scored. Saints will roll this week. Who Dat! Wait they did stop the rams. So there’s that. Smh

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    Three of the above games you mentioned the Saints also played (bears, lions, Rodger-less Packers). So lets null those W’s for you too then eh? You also played the dolphins and Jets who are worse (record wise) than the Ravens and Bengals.

    All points you are trying to make are just bad takes man. Stop while you’re ahead.

  107. ratedgap says:
    January 9, 2018 at 3:36 pm

    @aj, may not be an away game, but it is in a dome. We love domes as you may know
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    Actually, it’s an indoor stadium, not a dome. Nevertheless, I’m not seeing evidence of the Saints loving indoor stadiums outside of their own this year. They played at Minnesota and at Atlanta and lost both games. I know the Week 1 game doesn’t count (eye roll) but the Atlanta loss was Week 14. Does that one count?

  108. I really love reading all the arguments by the Saints fans that the Vikings defense isn’t that good and their #1 ranked defense is because of their schedule. The average offensive rank of the Vikings 16 teams they played is 18th. If that argument has validity, then the Saints 2nd ranked offense is solely based on the ranking of the 16 defenses they played this year. Well, the average ranking of the defenses the Saints played is 18.25. Slightly worse than the offenses the Vikings defense played. SO, what we have is a fraudulent offense versus a fruadulent defense. I like our fraudulent defense versus the Saints fraudulent offense. This is going to be a blood bath. Saints will lose by 17 points. Even with the garbage points they will score late in the fourth quarter.

  109. The over confidence of the Viking’s fans is astounding.. Let’s just play the game and see who wins. That’s why it’s called the playoffs. According to Viking fans, there is no point in the Saints even playing, because they’ve already lost.

  110. Claire Kruszka says:

    January 11, 2018 at 4:23 am

    The over confidence of the Viking’s fans is astounding.. Let’s just play the game and see who wins. That’s why it’s called the playoffs. According to Viking fans, there is no point in the Saints even playing, because they’ve already lost.

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    There’s nothing wrong with confidence in your team as long as you aren’t rude by showing it.

  111. Claire Kruszka says:

    January 11, 2018 at 4:23 am

    The over confidence of the Viking’s fans is astounding.. Let’s just play the game and see who wins. That’s why it’s called the playoffs. According to Viking fans, there is no point in the Saints even playing, because they’ve already lost.
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    Funny how Vikings fans defending their #1 defense is ” overconfidence”. But “Saints” fans bragging about their #1 offense is stating facts…….pretty hypocritical if you ask me, but then, you are a woman, what do you know about football?

  112. I’m gonna throw my hat in the ring and predict a low-scoring defensive struggle. Just for fun. Ha ha. 20-17 (overtime). And you’ll find out who I thought was going to win later.

    Ha ha.

  113. The other 3 important issues in this game is that Brees is the same cheating QB who knew and watched his teammates knock two HOF QB’s out of football with cheap shots. He could have easily said something too stop it. No class at all.
    Second is that Keenum is mobile versus an excellent but immobile Bradford. This may play out well for the Vikes against an amazing Cameron Jordan.
    Lastly are the refs. Are they going to call a fair game or let New Orleans mug and injure Case Keenum. Refs also can’t call penalties when the Vikings get close to Brees. Brees was my favorite player until their rigged run you the SB. So will the refs and NFL call a fair game? I have very little trust in the NFL and their referees being fair.

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