Tom Brady disputes celebrating Jimmy Garoppolo trade

Getty Images

The response to last week’s ESPN article about the Patriots continued on Tuesday when Patriots quarterback Tom Brady made his weekly radio appearance.

One of the focal points in the article was the trade of quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo to the 49ers last October, which was painted as a decision made at the behest of ownership with an eye on allowing Brady to remain the starting quarterback. That has been disputed by owner Robert Kraft and Brady disputed that he “seemed liberated” and “especially excited” the day after the trade.

“In 18 years I have never celebrated when a player was traded or cut. It is such a poor characterization, it’s disappointing to hear,” Brady said on WEEI.

Brady also took issue with the notion that he was upset with Belichick about not receiving Patriot of the Week this year — “there is no basis for it” — and called Belichick “a great coach and mentor.”

Brady, Belichick and Kraft may not be in lockstep on every issue, but they have been in their response to the article and past history suggests the team will be unshaken when they take the field against the Titans this weekend.

152 responses to “Tom Brady disputes celebrating Jimmy Garoppolo trade

  1. Did Brady pop champagne corks after hearing about the Garappolo trade?? No!
    Was Tom very happy Garappolo was gone?? You better believe he was.

    The Patriots are great at playing the ‘semantics’ game.

    Kraft did the same thing when questioned about ‘the mandate’ to trade JG. No he never gave Belichick a mandate to trade Jimmy G, what he did was tell Belichick you are not moving Brady and you are no going to franchise the backup QB but never a mandate to trade Jimmy G.

    Semantics.

    Brady knows the truth of what was leaked to the media from behind closed doors at Gillette. And that’s where the lasting damage comes from. There are snitches in Gillette now willing to talk.

  2. Good on the Pats to start calling out the FakeNews Media for what they are. It is not only right, but a social good.

    Hey Reporters, start putting honesty and balance ahead of clicks and views and you might get the public’s respect back some day.

  3. As we all know the media has a propensity to write half truths. Take Mr. W, during an interview yesterday he was asked about the younger players calling Brady sir statement. His comment was informative to say the least. He confirmed the information in the story and than ADDED younger players used to call Peyton Manning sir also. Hmmm… why wasn’t that little nugget of information in the original story? We know why of course, it would not have supported the slant and intent of the article.

    Lets face it folks there is some truth to the story but since ESPN has decided to follow in the footsteps of other news outlets, and now provides mostly non-objective/obviously biased style of writing to many stories, we may never know the extent of the truth.

  4. That click baiting writer from ESPN, world wide leader in lies, should have to give all his sources when printing speculative things like he did.

    Patriots in the playoffs, fabricated storyline around them pops up. Timing by is a funny thing huh ESPN. Tell me if you’ve seen this before, haha. What a joke.

  5. If the article was trash and completely inaccurate then why the full-throated defense from all 3 of the people in question? The harder they push back the more credence is given to the article.

  6. You have to wonder what universities are teaching journalism students today when companies like ESPN put out stories like this. Does a university’s journalism curriculum include ‘Fake News 101’?

  7. It must be boring to be a fan of any other team besides the Patriots.It’s probably like the person that is still obsessed with their ex.Crying and whining and wishing and hoping,not being able to eat or sleep.I wish I could be there to see it.

  8. This is getting crazy, nothing needs to substantiated anymore, you just attack everybody and anybody with nothing to go on.

  9. Tom Brady is human. We build them up, then we tear them down. Even if Brady cheated. Even if he did want Garoppolo to leave. So what? We pay our QB’s to win super bowls. When you pull back the curtain on any of our hero’s, there’s just a man standing back there.

  10. Tom Brady has said that he was happy to see Garoppolo having success with the 49ers. There are actually sources for that statement.

    Perhaps Wickersham will share his sources; assuming an imagination can be shared.

  11. Methinks they protesteth too much. For example, Belichick said he hadn’t read the story, but in the same breath labeled the story inaccurate. If he hasn’t read the story, how could he declare it inaccurate?

  12. .
    For the 18 years the Patriots big three have muddled through thick and thin together. The main reason for that was each had clearly defined roles. Kraft owned. Brady played. And Belichick coached and handled personnel. To think that Kraft suddenly turned into Jerry Jones and stepped into the GMs role without notice or consultation seems farfetched at best.
    .

  13. Oh c’mon…the ESPN report cannot be 100% false. Every piece of the story has been denied. Shocking really. I expected Brady, Kraft, and Belichick to be honest…I mean, who didn’t?

  14. There’s nothing to see here it’s just ESPN trying to float a bunch of stuff before the playoffs start,As we have seen in the past it really motivates the patriots…so thanks ESPN for Being the joke of a network that you are!

  15. Pats will need to be on their game because that Mariotta to Marriotta connection that the Titans got going last game is lethal!

  16. it’s quite telling that Wickersham and ESPN never even bothered to reach out to Brady, Belichick or Kraft – the only people who would actually know if any of this was true. Calling them TMZSPN is an insult to TMZ.

  17. ESPN needs to stop trying to make controversy happen. It’s not going to happen. And everyone else should take some advice from one of ESPN’s parent companys princesses, and Let It Go!

  18. As a Steelers fan who hates the Pats I’ll say this. I would love for this drama to bring them down and seperate them, but it seems like the media is pushing the issue now. I haven’t heard anything about football and it’s getting ridiculous. As much as I want them to lose I think it’s just going to make them better. So please for the sake of my Steelers, enough already.

  19. BB did Jimmy a favor by not trading him to Cleveland. He knows the landscape, thats reserved for players with character like Jamie Collins. Jimmy was a great soldier, gave his best, but he knew TB wasn’t going anywhere. BB repaid him by giving him to a team that needed a QB, and the rest is history.
    Just wish they didn’t get rid of Brissette…but we’re 13-3 and onto Tennesee

  20. Brady would have to be playing at Peyton Manning 2015 levels for Jimmy to be a threat to his job.

    Yeah- that wasn’t happening.

    🙂

  21. I am not a Patriots fan, in fact their bandwagon fans annoy me greatly. But, so what if he was a little happy that it means he is clear starter for another couple years. Im sure there are things Tom B likes and dislikes about his job, the fact is he seems more than capable of understanding the greater good and taking the bad along with that good.

  22. He definitely was happy when Jimmy was traded he has a tell when things are going his way he wears one of those big goofy ill fitting winter knit hats !

  23. What would you expect him to say? He probably did want the guy out and was happy about it but he’s not going to admit it.

  24. Seth Wickersham reportedly teaming with Michael Wolff to write tell-all book on Brady, Belichick & Kraft’s relationship with Trump. Should be a page burner, filled with lots of credible stories. Look for the new title The Trump-Brady-Belichick-Kraft Dossier. LOL (I crack myself up).

  25. All these sources go on the record essentially calling Wicker-SHAM a liar and his response……. *crickets chirping*
    And by sources I mean Bill, Bob and Tom.
    I wonder if it troubles ESPN that they no longer have a shred of credibility with logical, reasonable human beings.

  26. Seems like the writer of the ESPN piece was more or less trying to besmirch Tom Brady. I say we cut off his writing hand to teach him some humility. Game of Thrones style. You sir are no King Slayer.

  27. Please keep reporting this stuff. The fire is lit. Pats are going to rub all this in everybody’s face when they walk away with the Lombardi. They don’t need to verbally respond to the soap opera dramatizations. Their play will do the talking!

  28. There is definite conflict between Brady, Belichick, Kraft, and Tommy is feeling liberated from his QB competitor, who is he kidding? This is playoff week and nobody is rocking the boat, but Belichick certainly would be open to leaving town after having to defer to his above the T-E-A_M QB.

  29. Easy way to resolve this. If he was so excited that JG was traded I am sure he texted somebody. Just check his phone…oh, wait.

  30. BSPN.

    This story wldnt have to do with BSPN attempting to shift focus from their prez
    Stepping down with a “substance abuse” issue (wink wink) as opposed to perhaps any possible/pending legal matter against BSPN ?

    Pure speculation of course…

  31. The whole article is based on what someone “thought” Brady, Belichick, and Kraft “seemed” or “appeared”. There are no facts. Its all opinion based on perception. I guess that’s the level required for the media these days to qualify something as news.

  32. When the Pats beat Seattle, Brady gave Jimmy the cold shoulder when he celebrated with McDaniels… Poor Jimmy. lol

  33. tylawspick6 says:
    January 9, 2018 at 8:50 am

    Sad the Pats have to counter lies all the time.
    —————————–

    What’s even more sad is all the idiots out there that believe those lies. Even after ESPN and Roger Goodell have been proven to be compulsive liars, people still believe them.

  34. elmerbrownelmerbrown says:
    January 9, 2018 at 8:31 am
    He definitely was happy when Jimmy was traded he has a tell when things are going his way he wears one of those big goofy ill fitting winter knit hats !

    ———————-
    I think its just that by the time winter comes each year he and the Patriots are dominating things their way.

  35. They protest too much? Because they are getting asked questions from the media about a media fabricated story?

    Again, all you haters know you are hypocrites because if the Patriots just said no comment and never responded you would say their silence proves their guilt.

    So denying proves their guilt and silence proves their guilt, almost seems like Hatriot Nation has an agenda.

  36. Who cares whether he celebrated or not?

    The only thing pats fans care about is the pats are about to win their 6th SB and second in a row. The greatest dynasty in the SB era by a huge margin.

  37. I am glad the Patriots do not get asked questions like other teams do.You know questions like How come you didn’t make the playoffs?Is luck playing?Is lynch your franchise QB?Can you beat your big brother?How come your 1-11 at home in playoff games?You spent how much on that giants defense?Is dak that bad?Did you embrace the suck?So is flacco elite?Can gruden turn that Carr around?Is von miller worth the dollars?I thought Chandler Jones was the missing piece?Did you really think beating the Patriots meant you were good?But no we get asked kumbya questions…and that makes us Patriots fans happier than the losers.

  38. As a Browns fan, I still have an unanswered question about the Garoppolo trade and media seems to be reluctant to ask…

    THE QUESTION…Did Patriots owner Bob Kraft and Belichick know that the Browns were willing to trade the their first round pick that they received from the Texans (the #4 pick in this draft) for Jimmy Garoppolo?
    …it has also been reported that the Browns were willing to add more to the trade if needed, to make sure it happen.

    To Browns fans, it’s darn hard to believe that the Patriots would turn down such an offer.

    Did both Kraft and Belichich simply “snub” the Browns offer?

    OR, did the Browns front office never make such an offer?

    A little help from NBC sports would be appreciated here to answer these questions.

    It seems that both front offices are reluctant to answer these questions, leaving the fans to wonder, how the hell could the Browns not get a deal for JG done?

  39. xxsweepthelegxx says:
    January 9, 2018 at 7:29 am
    That click baiting writer from ESPN, world wide leader in lies, should have to give all his sources when printing speculative things like he did.

    Patriots in the playoffs, fabricated storyline around them pops up. Timing by is a funny thing huh ESPN. Tell me if you’ve seen this before, haha. What a joke.
    _________________________________________________________
    If the story was false, why would ESPN want to look bad knowing the light would peek it’s head out of the end of the tunnel? I call BS on Brady’s part. He’s a professional liar… the guy would make a great lawyer. Truth is, Brady wanted Garoppolo gone because he was a threat to Brady’s plan of playing a few more years. He didn’t want to end up like Manning and get pushed out of his City before he was done. Garoppolo was ready and Brady knew it. End of story.

  40. As much as I dislike the Pats, I don’t think Brady was doing cartwheels and handstands because JG got traded. That said, I sure am glad the “media” got off the Steelers back for a while…Let another team get a taste of the BS reporting.

  41. It’s amazing how many people presume to know how Bill and Tom think and feel. For two people who so famously keep their thoughts and feelings close to the vest, the level of mind reading and wish casting is quite astounding.

    Why even play any more games, the mind readers and future tellers can just tell us all who wins and we can move on.

    As another commenter said, if Seth gave just one source on the record, just one, then maybe we would start to believe him. All else is just gossip and hearsay.

  42. EJ says:
    January 9, 2018 at 9:40 am
    xxsweepthelegxx says:
    January 9, 2018 at 7:29 am
    That click baiting writer from ESPN, world wide leader in lies, should have to give all his sources when printing speculative things like he did.

    Patriots in the playoffs, fabricated storyline around them pops up. Timing by is a funny thing huh ESPN. Tell me if you’ve seen this before, haha. What a joke.
    _________________________________________________________
    If the story was false, why would ESPN want to look bad knowing the light would peek it’s head out of the end of the tunnel?

    After the whole PSI thing you actually have to ask that question?

  43. This whole thing is quickly turning me off. I don’t think I can make it through
    another season as a fan. Between this and the subpar play its getting stupid.

  44. srector1224 says:
    January 9, 2018 at 7:33 am

    If the article was trash and completely inaccurate then why the full-throated defense from all 3 of the people in question? The harder they push back the more credence is given to the article.
    __________________
    If one of the foremost media outlets in the industry where you work called you a pedophile or a thief or whatever insult most damages you are you saying you would not defend yourself?

    You are the same person who would be saying, “The Pats are not responding because they are admitting it is all true.”

    Cry more, hater and loser, cry more.

  45. The rule of two applies to the patriots. There can only be one master and one apprentice.
    Emperor Billpatinel had Darth Tom Vader, but saw Luke Garoppolowalker as the future right hand of the Galactic Foxborough Empire.
    But then Obi Wan Kraftnobi swooped in and sent Luke Garoppolowalker to live with his aunt and uncle in Tatooinefrisco.

    The Galactic Foxborough Empire is beginning to corrode and crumble beneath the sith’s feet.

  46. BelgiumHawk says:
    January 9, 2018 at 7:09 am
    He never celebrated that he was traded, but that doesn’t mean he threw a fit till he was traded.

    ————–

    The relationship between a starting QB and an up and coming backup is tenuous. Bledsoe has always been friends with Brady, he’s always been supportive of Brady, but he was still really mad about how all that went down and he still probably thinks he should have been given his job back.

    Jimmy G and Brady are friends. However, Brady would definitely feel some relief that the organization is committed to him again for at least the next year or 2. He survived. He also hopes Garoppolo does well and is very happy for him, I am sure.

    In competitive sports, this kind of relationship with teammates starts from 13 years old. You are competing against other players for playing time, and trying to beat them out, but at the same time you are friends.

    For NFL players, they have been in this culture for many, many years. It’s just part of it.

  47. We also know that Jimmy G was one of the 4 teammates that Brady flew on his private plane to the Kentucky Derby in May and hung out with all weekend.

    Some tense friction there!

    Wickersham’s sources tell us that today in Foxboro it is 75 degrees and sunny. That claim would be closer to the mark than many.

    Face it, the dude either made a lot of stuff up or was duped by sources who were feeding him misinformation and that are now laughing hysterically about it. Every verifiable claim has been debunked. Belichick did not meet with Goodell. Kraft did not meet with Belichick ESPN claims that he did. Brady did not meet with Kraft to make trade demands. on and on…

    Let’s call it like it is: a shoddily-written and poorly-research clickbait hit piece.

  48. srector1224 says:
    January 9, 2018 at 7:33 am
    If the article was trash and completely inaccurate then why the full-throated defense from all 3 of the people in question? The harder they push back the more credence is given to the article.

    ———–

    If the Patriots remain silent everyone says that it must be true because they aren’t denying it.

    If they deny it then everyone says that it must be true because they are giving credence to the claims.

    You see how that doesn’t make sense.

  49. Absolutely love how everything Seth Wickersham alleged is gospel truth to some people, and the same folks turn around and can’t take three grown men on their gentlemen’s words. Tell you what, I’ll come back here and eat my words raw with no hot sauce if I’m wrong, but the only thing that will break this crew up is retirement. I said on here the other day, no one will take NFL back, the Patriots will just decide they’ve made their point and GIVE it back.

  50. srector1224 says:
    January 9, 2018 at 7:33 am
    If the article was trash and completely inaccurate then why the full-throated defense from all 3 of the people in question? The harder they push back the more credence is given to the article.

    ——————————————

    They are defending themselves because they are being asked questions by the media.
    Nevertheless…
    – if they did not defend themselves, I predict that you would be saying that the article is true.
    – if they offered half-hearted defenses, I predict that you would be saying that the article is true.
    – and now that they are vigorously defending themselves, you say that the article is true.

    To sum up- no matter what they said, I am pretty sure that you would assert that the article is true. So why do you care what they say? You seem to have made up your mind as to what constitutes the truth.

  51. honalulublue says:
    January 9, 2018 at 9:19 am
    Media is just so much garbage.

    ————

    Sports Journalism is what Mike Reiss does. That’s a professional. Seth Wickersham is writing an opinion piece with a few facts sprinkled in and calling it journalism. To me, this is the kind of thing that sours people on the media. Exposés are important if they actually stick to the facts, but embellishing so much with third hand accounts that ring untrue is embarrassing.

    Opinion pieces have their place, but they need to be called out as such, and not reported as fact.

  52. cjweber5187 says:
    January 9, 2018 at 9:53 am
    The rule of two applies to the patriots. There can only be one master and one apprentice.
    Emperor Billpatinel had Darth Tom Vader, but saw Luke Garoppolowalker as the future right hand of the Galactic Foxborough Empire.
    But then Obi Wan Kraftnobi swooped in and sent Luke Garoppolowalker to live with his aunt and uncle in Tatooinefrisco.
    The Galactic Foxborough Empire is beginning to corrode and crumble beneath the sith’s feet.

    ———–

    They still have a second fully operational death-star put aside for the playoffs. Not to worry.

  53. EJ says:
    January 9, 2018 at 9:40 am
    xxsweepthelegxx says:
    January 9, 2018 at 7:29 am
    That click baiting writer from ESPN, world wide leader in lies, should have to give all his sources when printing speculative things like he did.
    Patriots in the playoffs, fabricated storyline around them pops up. Timing by is a funny thing huh ESPN. Tell me if you’ve seen this before, haha. What a joke.
    _________________________________________________________
    If the story was false, why would ESPN want to look bad knowing the light would peek it’s head out of the end of the tunnel? I call BS on Brady’s part. He’s a professional liar… the guy would make a great lawyer. Truth is, Brady wanted Garoppolo gone because he was a threat to Brady’s plan of playing a few more years. He didn’t want to end up like Manning and get pushed out of his City before he was done. Garoppolo was ready and Brady knew it. End of story.

    ————-

    Why would ESPN publish an embellished story (I don’t think it’s 100% false)… Let’s see. The fans of 31 other teams hate the Patriots. They are so passionate about it that any negative story about the Patriots garners massive readership and viewership for the network. ESPN dropped notice that a hit piece was coming out Friday morning. They then proceeded to do 24 hours on that one article. Everyone was glued to the TV for all the shows. Massive for the network. The response has continued until today, with us fans still commenting on the story.

    So the reason is money. That’s why ESPN put out an embellished story.

  54. Well so much for the Patriots fan’s excuse “what else could we do, he was going to be a free agent anyway?” they’ve used to deflect from the fact that the Jimmy G. trade made a mockery of their usual “genius organization” boast.

    Now we find out Cleveland would’ve given you the #4 overall pick PLUS a load of “other goodies.” And all you wound up with was a lousy second rounder? Oh please, Patriots, do explain what diabolical plan was hatched to profit so mightily here. Please.

    Yeah, this was the “genius” of Belichick and the front office here all right. Suckers.

  55. For the life of me, I can’t understand what the motivation was, on the part of the reporter, to even write this story. It makes no sense. The timing is suspect, there are no named sources, and it comes off a someone that has an ax to grind. I am not a big Patriots fan, the motivation to win is so strong that they have a tendency to blur the lines of what can be done and what should be done, to win football games. Do I have respect for Belichick and Brady? You bet I do. One of the greatest coach/player duos to ever grace an NFL playing field. But this whole fiasco of an article is totally unbecoming of a major sports network, and says more about them than it does the Patriots.

  56. To me getting a second round pick (at the time of the trade was #34 overall) for 6 weeks was great return on the initial investment.

    Has there ever been another player that got traded for such a high pick for a total of 6 weeks? I bet that falls somewhere between rare and has never happened before.

  57. Please ask Montana, Favre, and Bledsoe how they felt when they were jettisoned for the younger guy?

    The story should be that the Patriots did an outstanding job of grooming a successor but Brady ‘s play derailed it.

    Alas, instead of going with that positive story, Brady the probable MVP, NE favored to win another SB, and Garapolo playing lights out in SF, ESPN and PFT pushed all the negative buttons.

  58. Wow, you mean to tell me that people have feelings and sometimes reporters make mistakes? Sometimes coaches or owners make mistakes? Sometimes things just don’t work out?

    Please tell me something I don’t know.

    For all the drama, picking up Jimmy G and having him as a successful small dollar insurance policy that you could trade and get your draft pick back (and them some) in the last two month’s of his contract, was a pretty good investment. Good draft pick, good value as a backup, and we never went into a season worried about the backup spot. The fact that you see him as a legit great starter, just shows the savvy genius of the pick and the quality of the program to develop the player.

  59. To me getting a second round pick (at the time of the trade was #34 overall) for 6 weeks was great return on the initial investment.

    Has there ever been another player that got traded for such a high pick for a total of 6 weeks? I bet that falls somewhere between rare and has never happened before.

    ————————————-

    LOL is this a joke? More like a minimum of 2 years and 6 weeks. I have a beach house in Idaho to sell you if you believe trading away an asset (even unknown) for a 2nd round pick was a solid business decision. Come on man, with the rising water levels Idaho will be coastline property in no time! 😀

  60. macbull says:
    January 9, 2018 at 9:35 am
    As a Browns fan, I still have an unanswered question about the Garoppolo trade and media seems to be reluctant to ask…

    THE QUESTION…Did Patriots owner Bob Kraft and Belichick know that the Browns were willing to trade the their first round pick that they received from the Texans (the #4 pick in this draft) for Jimmy Garoppolo?
    …it has also been reported that the Browns were willing to add more to the trade if needed, to make sure it happen.

    To Browns fans, it’s darn hard to believe that the Patriots would turn down such an offer.

    Did both Kraft and Belichich simply “snub” the Browns offer?

    OR, did the Browns front office never make such an offer?

    A little help from NBC sports would be appreciated here to answer these questions.

    It seems that both front offices are reluctant to answer these questions, leaving the fans to wonder, how the hell could the Browns not get a deal for JG done?
    ————————-

    Easy answer. They liked Jimmy and didn’t want to send his career to a flaming death in Cleveland where QB’s go to die.

  61. I love the “fake news” mindset some people use when they do not like hearing things that go against their wishes. It is now the world we live in. Live in ignorance if you may.

    Remember when there were reports about Harbaugh and the 9ers front office not jiving together? unnamed sources put out information that one of these men were likely not coming back after the season. Turned out to be factual, no? Truly pathetic to act like you are sure news is not real when it does not fit your agenda. It is real snowflakish if you ask me. 😀

  62. macbull says:
    January 9, 2018 at 9:35 am
    As a Browns fan, I still have an unanswered question about the Garoppolo trade and media seems to be reluctant to ask…

    THE QUESTION…Did Patriots owner Bob Kraft and Belichick know that the Browns were willing to trade the their first round pick that they received from the Texans (the #4 pick in this draft) for Jimmy Garoppolo?
    …it has also been reported that the Browns were willing to add more to the trade if needed, to make sure it happen.

    To Browns fans, it’s darn hard to believe that the Patriots would turn down such an offer.

    Did both Kraft and Belichich simply “snub” the Browns offer?

    OR, did the Browns front office never make such an offer?

    ************

    A couple of things to keep in mind about the potential of a trade to the Browns. One is timing. A lot of people are saying the Browns were after Jimmy G many months earlier. That wouldn’t be as attractive to the Patriots for the simple reason that they didn’t know if Brady would show any deterioration in 2017. They needed somebody to QB those first four games and they needed a good backup until they knew what shape they were in with Brady.

    After awhile, though, Brady is looking good and the trade deadline is looming. So who to trade Jimmy to now? You have to remember that he is going to be a free agent at the end of the year and that gives him some leverage as a practical matter. If he says he’s not going to be cooperative with the Browns in negotiating a contract, would the Browns still offer the moon?

    Then there’s the more minor consideration that the better the Patriots thought Jimmy was, the more they’re going to prefer to trade him to an NFC team, not an AFC team.

  63. ampatsisahypocrite says:
    January 9, 2018 at 10:44 am

    …the Jimmy G. trade made a mockery of their usual “genius organization” boast.

    Now we find out Cleveland would’ve given you the #4 overall pick PLUS a load of “other goodies.” And all you wound up with was a lousy second rounder? Oh please, Patriots, do explain what diabolical plan was hatched to profit so mightily here. Please.

    Yeah, this was the “genius” of Belichick and the front office here all right. Suckers

    ======

    That’s “5 time Superbowl Champion Suckers” to you.

    Seriously, if 5 wins in 7 Superbowl appearances, and AFC title games for the last 7 years, makes Pats fans “suckers”, what does that make everyone else?

  64. EJ says:
    January 9, 2018 at 9:40 am
    xxsweepthelegxx says:
    January 9, 2018 at 7:29 am
    That click baiting writer from ESPN, world wide leader in lies, should have to give all his sources when printing speculative things like he did.

    Patriots in the playoffs, fabricated storyline around them pops up. Timing by is a funny thing huh ESPN. Tell me if you’ve seen this before, haha. What a joke.
    _________________________________________________________
    If the story was false, why would ESPN want to look bad knowing the light would peek it’s head out of the end of the tunnel? I call BS on Brady’s part. He’s a professional liar… the guy would make a great lawyer. Truth is, Brady wanted Garoppolo gone because he was a threat to Brady’s plan of playing a few more years. He didn’t want to end up like Manning and get pushed out of his City before he was done. Garoppolo was ready and Brady knew it. End of story.

    ——————-
    Money, and ratings thats why. They even did a news report that they had a news report coming to boost it up. They know this is made up nonsense, but look how they have milked it for readership and viewership. It was a gold mine. And history has shown that getting exposed as lying havks is a temporary hit at best. People forget, and it in no way stops them from lining up for the next edition of ‘what they desperately want to hear’. ESPN has found that more money can be made doing this sort of reporting than could be made from real journalism. Trust they will do it again. They know where the gold mine is.

  65. The wagons have begun to get into a circle. This media driven agenda to undermine, falsify and promote fake news is a huge huge mistake for the rest of the NFL.

    All fans of the Patriots opponents should force ESPN to stop promoting fake news….because this is now going to be used in a way that will backfire on YOUR teams……..This is the undoing of the Patriots opponents only… Not the patriots.

    They will move forward with this in the back of their minds and fuel the storm…to come. The fight for Number 6 is underway.

  66. LOL is this a joke? More like a minimum of 2 years and 6 weeks. I have a beach house in Idaho to sell you if you believe trading away an asset (even unknown) for a 2nd round pick was a solid business decision. Come on man, with the rising water levels Idaho will be coastline property in no time! 😀
    ——–
    can you at least articulate your point? What do you mean by 2 years and 6 games? In 6 games Jimmy was going to be a free agent and he could go where ever he wanted. You can’t franchise him. The back up would be making more money than your starter. They tried to sign Jimmy to be the man in 2 or 3 years but he wants to play now. I can’t fault him for that. It’s simple. It’s cut and dry. But fans would rather blather like babies and face facts.

  67. So let me get this straight for all the idiots who actually believed Seth Wickersham’s article. He didn’t reach out to any of the big 3, he didn’t reach out to any big name players, and he lied about the Garoppolo as well as the Goodell interactions already and you still believe it? Man even the Steelers fans are laughing at this crap.

  68. Tom Brady likes a little competition. It feeds the chip on his shoulder and makes him play better & with more fire.

    Thanks ESPN for stoking Tom’s fire. With any luck this will take us all the way to Ring #6.

  69. crush22 says:

    “It is such a poor characterization”

    That’s sums up the entire Patsie* organization.

    ==========================================================

    “I don’t think that words means what you think it means.”

  70. patsfan1820 says:
    January 9, 2018 at 11:44 am
    So let me get this straight for all the idiots who actually believed Seth Wickersham’s article. He didn’t reach out to any of the big 3, he didn’t reach out to any big name players, and he lied about the Garoppolo as well as the Goodell interactions already and you still believe it? Man even the Steelers fans are laughing at this crap.

    1 0 Rate This

    ——————–

    All of his stuff is made up, including that comical article he wrote last year with Don Van Natta from ESPN.

    I am still laughjing at it. Complete fabrications including that 2013 Rolling Stone article where the writer said Hernandez flew to Indy for the Combine to ask BB’s opinion about his crazy life and BB told him to “get a flop house”.

    I mean, in all honesty, I’d laugh, but it remains so sad to see the dumbing down of our country get worse and worse.

  71. can you at least articulate your point? What do you mean by 2 years and 6 games? In 6 games Jimmy was going to be a free agent and he could go where ever he wanted. You can’t franchise him. The back up would be making more money than your starter. They tried to sign Jimmy to be the man in 2 or 3 years but he wants to play now. I can’t fault him for that. It’s simple. It’s cut and dry. But fans would rather blather like babies and face facts.

    ———————————

    First off, it was said by the team there was no contract offered to Jimmy by NE. So which parts of this report are real and which are not?

    Second, Jimmy could have been traded for a higher return from multiple teams. Heck, AJ McCarron was going to Cleveland for 2 2nds…if the browns didnt muck that up which they did. So to say “great return” for a single 2nd round pick for a QB in higher demand is odd considering they got much less on the dollar than they could have.

    The asset was a free agent in a couple months for them but not for others. You say a second round pick for an impending free agent is good value but you are basing the value selling low from the Pats end and not accounting for the value as seen by 31 other teams. Not a sound business decision if your goal is to maximize return. Obviously, maximizing return was not in the best interest of the Patriots. Jimmy was certainly done a favor by Pats management (Belichick). Whether that is right or wrong is up for opinion. Please though, do not state that this trade rendered a great return. it did not.

  72. I really wish Kraft would drop a mega defamation suit against BSPN for no other reason than to unmask some of these “anonymous sources” during the discovery process. This is the third time BSPN has burned the Pats reputation with outright lies. They literally chased Matt Walsh around Hawaii after Spygate with zero evidence to support any violation other than the filming from the wrong spot even though everyone was doing the same thing, refused to correct their 11 out of 12 report even though it was the false truth lead story on every nightly news show and now with this BS. Unbelievable.

  73. We all know from Deflategate that Tom Brady has a very difficult time with the truth. No wonder he is pals with our idiot president. Would absolutely love to see Mariota put a beat down on this premadonna this weekend!!

  74. hahaicansezbelicheat says:
    January 9, 2018 at 8:07 am

    it’s quite telling that Wickersham and ESPN never even bothered to reach out to Brady, Belichick or Kraft – the only people who would actually know if any of this was true. Calling them TMZSPN is an insult to TMZ.
    —————————————–
    Yes, because there’s nothing those three would rather have done than to have a folksy, cordial full sit down conversation to spill all the beans to Wickersham.

  75. How come nobody ever asked the question…”WHERE IS MATT WALSH”??????
    This is the question I want to know, he holds the biggest secrets of the Patriots.
    Walsh was PAID by Patriots to move to Hawaii, never to be heard from again..
    A guy who was no millionaire can move his family there and retire? How?
    No media outlet will investigate this.

  76. Trash or Smash says:

    January 9, 2018 at 12:30 pm

    How come nobody ever asked the question…”WHERE IS MATT WALSH”??????
    This is the question I want to know, he holds the biggest secrets of the Patriots.
    Walsh was PAID by Patriots to move to Hawaii, never to be heard from again..
    A guy who was no millionaire can move his family there and retire? How?
    No media outlet will investigate this.

    ============================

    Uh no, just no. The story written about that was thoroughly and swiftly debunked by the paper that published it and the author that wrote it. The paper offered both a front and back page retraction, an unprecedented move for a major metropolitan newspaper. And Walsh himself recanted the story to Goodell. A “media outlet” thoroughly investigated it and trashed their own story.

  77. favreblows says:

    January 9, 2018 at 12:14 pm

    We all know from Deflategate that Tom Brady has a very difficult time with the truth. No wonder he is pals with our idiot president. Would absolutely love to see Mariota put a beat down on this premadonna this weekend!!

    ==============================================

    You’re right, Brady has a difficult time with the truth in Deflategate, by telling the truth, he got a 4 game suspension. Despite ample evidence to the contrary, Goodell still decided to favor “untruths” in the form of lying in open court and to the public, and by championing junk science that was trashed by every scientist who wasn’t drawing a check from the NFL. Where are the secret PSI logs Goodell promoised?

  78. This guy lies so much he could be labeled a complete psychopath. He is as fake as his hair plugs. I really wish a member of the media would ask him about his fake hair and if it is real and see him straight up lie about that also. A complete fraud in every category. The asterisk king.

  79. wanna see grown ups act childish? just write any, and i mean any, article about the new england patriots, and allow grown ups to say stuff they know isnt true about the patriots just to try and make themselves feel better about their own inept organization..

  80. veddermn8 says:
    January 9, 2018 at 12:47 pm
    favreblows says:

    January 9, 2018 at 12:14 pm

    We all know from Deflategate that Tom Brady has a very difficult time with the truth. No wonder he is pals with our idiot president. Would absolutely love to see Mariota put a beat down on this premadonna this weekend!!

    ==============================================

    You’re right, Brady has a difficult time with the truth in Deflategate, by telling the truth, he got a 4 game suspension. Despite ample evidence to the contrary, Goodell still decided to favor “untruths” in the form of lying in open court and to the public, and by championing junk science that was trashed by every scientist who wasn’t drawing a check from the NFL. Where are the secret PSI logs Goodell promoised?
    —————————————————————————–

    Sure…..most guys who are telling the truth destroy their cell phones to conceal evidence. Get a clue man. Brady is a lying punk.

  81. mlhigh says:

    January 9, 2018 at 1:03 pm

    Not once does he directly deny any of the allegations. He is slippery, this one. He and BB are in full media back pedal mode.

    ==================

    Brady sure did, here’s a few choice quotes:

    “I think that is such a poor characterization,” Brady said. “In 18 years I have never celebrated when someone has been traded, been cut. I would say that is disappointing to hear that someone would express that, or a writer would express that because it is so far from what my beliefs are about my teammates and I think I am very empathetic about other people’s experiences. I know those situations aren’t easy.

    “I have never been traded or released, but I can imagine how that might feel. I would never feel that way when Jimmy got traded, or Jacoby [Brissett] got traded. I have kept in touch with all those guys

  82. Maybe Brady was happy that JG is getting a chance to play? Who knows and who cares. Speculating on the personal feelings of people via third-hand accounts isn’t really a story. Nobody’s perfect and people are allowed to have feelings and disagree.

  83. nbptma1 says:
    January 9, 2018 at 7:39 am

    You have to wonder what universities are teaching journalism students today when companies like ESPN put out stories like this. Does a university’s journalism curriculum include ‘Fake News 101’?
    ———————–

    Most of what people call “journalists” or “reporters” these days are nothing more than glorified bloggers, with no journalism degree, journalistic skills or journalistic integrity whatsoever. Whenever you see stories like this that are replete with “unnamed sources”, you can be sure that the whole thing is a complete fabrication, devoid of any factual material.

  84. Funny how nothing is true, but yet a sought after talent like Jimmy G is gone in exchange for peanuts. One day the real true will come out about this cheating organization and I can’t wait!

  85. gotitan says:
    January 9, 2018 at 8:28 am
    Shock the northern part of the US on Saturday night. Us here in Nashville expect to advance.

    ————-

    Of course as a fan you expect your team to compete… however in reality (or the northern part of the US as you call it) this is the worst playoff team NE has faced since the 2011 Tebow lead Broncos.

  86. The Patriots will draft one QB in this draft and bring in 1 free-agent QB and by week 2 BOTH will have been so well coached UP, they could START for about 10 of the NFL teams. The Patriots are just good at developing QB’s in THEIR system. I’m not even a Patriots fan, just a observant NFL fan.

  87. favreblows says:

    January 9, 2018 at 1:16 pm

    veddermn8 says:
    January 9, 2018 at 12:47 pm
    favreblows says:

    January 9, 2018 at 12:14 pm

    We all know from Deflategate that Tom Brady has a very difficult time with the truth. No wonder he is pals with our idiot president. Would absolutely love to see Mariota put a beat down on this premadonna this weekend!!

    ==============================================

    You’re right, Brady has a difficult time with the truth in Deflategate, by telling the truth, he got a 4 game suspension. Despite ample evidence to the contrary, Goodell still decided to favor “untruths” in the form of lying in open court and to the public, and by championing junk science that was trashed by every scientist who wasn’t drawing a check from the NFL. Where are the secret PSI logs Goodell promoised?
    —————————————————————————–

    Sure…..most guys who are telling the truth destroy their cell phones to conceal evidence. Get a clue man. Brady is a lying punk.

    ===========================

    Too bad Brady handed over all cell data, and all communications between Jastremski and McNally were known. If you’re worried about concealed evidence, you should be very interested in the secret PSI logs. Goodell promised transparency. oops. And why weren’t the Steelers dinged last year for the same violation? could it be the NFL actually understands physics?

  88. Let us imagine Tommy and Giselle at their secluded winter estate, cracking a vintage bottle of Moet to celebrate the departure of his backup, Jimmy – to ensure Tommy can still hold his job in the future. To Jimmy….
    The reality is that Tom probably wished him well.

  89. favreblows says:
    January 9, 2018 at 12:14 pm
    We all know from Deflategate that Tom Brady has a very difficult time with the truth. No wonder he is pals with our idiot president. Would absolutely love to see Mariota put a beat down on this premadonna this weekend!!
    ======================
    We all most certainly do not. It’s hysterical that the one proven liar in Goodell avoids all scrutiny while the person who the NFL has still failed to prove lied gets continuously reprimanded by ignorant fans.

  90. Still waiting for anybody who believes Brady lied explain how an air pressure gauge can determine the temperature in a locker room. The answer is it can’t. So why did Exponent think they could get away with something so stupid.

  91. nite2al says:
    January 9, 2018 at 2:30 pm
    Funny how nothing is true, but yet a sought after talent like Jimmy G is gone in exchange for peanuts. One day the real true will come out about this cheating organization and I can’t wait!

    —————–

    What’s funny is that when Jimmy was on the Pats you guys all claimed that he stunk and was merely a product of the Patriots “System”…. A system so good that even a HS QB would flourish.

  92. Trash or Smash says:
    January 9, 2018 at 12:30 pm
    How come nobody ever asked the question…”WHERE IS MATT WALSH”??????
    This is the question I want to know, he holds the biggest secrets of the Patriots.
    Walsh was PAID by Patriots to move to Hawaii, never to be heard from again..
    A guy who was no millionaire can move his family there and retire? How?
    No media outlet will investigate this.
    ==========================
    Get over it already. Filming isn’t illegal. It was filming signals in the wrong location to get a competitive edge that we can now prove never existed. Some of you still carry on like it was the most egregious act ever displayed in the NFL history. News flash! It happened well before the Patriots made it famous. They’ve also been penalized for it twice. Both times an unprecedented punishment for a next to nothing crime. And that’s even if Walsh magically appeared and revealed a smoking gun that supposedly exists int he myths of every haters mind. It’s time to move on already.

  93. The rest of the AFC has to be thrilled the Pat’s are pissed off. Lord knows they don’t do very well when they feel slighted or have a chip on their shoulder.

  94. The entire media is missing the point about this. There is a real dysfunction in the Patriots this year. But it has nothing to do with Brady dissing Jimmy G or Belichick; or vice versa. Was Jimmy G more popular with AA Patriots? Yes. Was it causing tension or friction? No. There are 3 words that caused the dysfunction between Brady, Belichick, Kraft and that locker room. They are DONALD J. TRUMP! He has been an extremely divisive force inside and outside of that locker room. BBK declared fervent public support and friendship for Trump early and often. Kraft even gave him a Super Bowl ring. While he and Belichick showed disgruntled (with Trump) players the door out of town. Brady stiffed/insulted President Obama while embracing Trump. Many AA Patriots wrote him off afterwards. And likely, naturally gravitated toward Jimmy G. Brady has since (this season) publicly distanced himself way away from Trump. And even stiffed him in the WH visit (like he did with Obama). This drew the ire of Trump. It has even been locally reported that Giselle Brady does not like Trump. And maybe that even had something to do with this.

    Regardless; the discord and mistrust spreading inside the Patriot walls have one source code. Donald J. Trump! The AA players hate him. Many were let go over it and the rancor it was causing. Belichick & Kraft love him. Brady is now agnostic. That’s likely what’s really going on up here. And it is a testament to the strength, professionalism and discipline throughout the Patriot system that they weathered the storm. And is once again chasing a Super Bowl.

  95. vargavarga says:
    January 9, 2018 at 8:02 am
    Oh c’mon…the ESPN report cannot be 100% false.

    ———————
    What is your basis for being so sure?

  96. Things that never cease to amaze me
    1) anyone still thinking Brady destroyed his cell phone.
    2j people thinking the Patriots did not get a good deal, the best available under the circumstances, for Garrapolo
    3) people thinking a story based only on unnamed sources has to still be true while at the same time thinking stories based on confirmed sources must be false.
    4) anyone that still thinks there was ever any ball tampering
    5) anyone that thinks Kraft, Belichick, and Brady spend all day squabbling like kids in a soap opera instead of focusing themselves on excelling at their respective roles.
    6) people that think Kraft hangs out around Gillette all the time. (Sporadic visits at best, the man is busy running a very large business empire and employs Belichick to be the guy at Gillette running the team)

  97. srector1224 says:
    January 9, 2018 at 7:33 am
    If the article was trash and completely inaccurate then why the full-throated defense from all 3 of the people in question? The harder they push back the more credence is given to the article.
    ————-
    So if I say that you are a racist and then you deny it, than that means it must be true because you pushed back against an erroneously false statement?

    Ok, that makes perfect sense…

  98. BigBamBoom1 says:
    January 9, 2018 at 4:17 pm

    The entire media is missing the point about this. There is a real dysfunction in the Patriots this year. But it has nothing to do with Brady dissing Jimmy G or Belichick; or vice versa. Was Jimmy G more popular with AA Patriots? Yes. Was it causing tension or friction? No. There are 3 words that caused the dysfunction between Brady, Belichick, Kraft and that locker room. They are DONALD J. TRUMP! He has been an extremely divisive force inside and outside of that locker room. BBK declared fervent public support and friendship for Trump early and often. Kraft even gave him a Super Bowl ring. While he and Belichick showed disgruntled (with Trump) players the door out of town. Brady stiffed/insulted President Obama while embracing Trump. Many AA Patriots wrote him off afterwards. And likely, naturally gravitated toward Jimmy G. Brady has since (this season) publicly distanced himself way away from Trump. And even stiffed him in the WH visit (like he did with Obama). This drew the ire of Trump. It has even been locally reported that Giselle Brady does not like Trump. And maybe that even had something to do with this.

    Regardless; the discord and mistrust spreading inside the Patriot walls have one source code. Donald J. Trump! The AA players hate him. Many were let go over it and the rancor it was causing. Belichick & Kraft love him. Brady is now agnostic. That’s likely what’s really going on up here. And it is a testament to the strength, professionalism and discipline throughout the Patriot system that they weathered the storm. And is once again chasing a Super Bowl.
    ————————–

    You should be writing this story for ESPN. It’s right up their alley. Be sure to include lots of unnamed sources, which shouldn’t be a problem for you.

  99. vargavarga says:
    January 9, 2018 at 8:02 am
    Oh c’mon…the ESPN report cannot be 100% false. Every piece of the story has been denied. Shocking really. I expected Brady, Kraft, and Belichick to be honest…I mean, who didn’t?
    ====================
    So to be clear … the three people who can speak authoritatively to the claims in the article are the liars. LOL

    The reality is if other players or personnel believe what was being reported in the article it still doesn’t mean the three people the article is about feel the same way. It’s not like Kraft, Brady or Belichick were ever directly asked anything. Which makes calling them liars a bit … hollow. Regardless, this might actually be a scenario where everybody is being honest.

  100. mlhigh says:
    January 9, 2018 at 1:03 pm
    Not once does he directly deny any of the allegations. He is slippery, this one. He and BB are in full media back pedal mode.
    ==================
    Brady sure did, here’s a few choice quotes:
    “I think that is such a poor characterization,” Brady said. “In 18 years I have never celebrated when someone has been traded, been cut. I would say that is disappointing to hear that someone would express that, or a writer would express that because it is so far from what my beliefs are about my teammates and I think I am very empathetic about other people’s experiences. I know those situations aren’t easy.
    “I have never been traded or released, but I can imagine how that might feel. I would never feel that way when Jimmy got traded, or Jacoby [Brissett] got traded. I have kept in touch with all those guys.
    _________________________________________________________

    define “Celebration!” Brady doesn’t do that. His response was clearly written by a Pats attorney. Was he happy? Yes. He orchestrated the trade of JG and Daddy Kraft was to glad to oblige.

  101. thesilentshoplifter says:
    January 9, 2018 at 5:50 pm

    define “Celebration!” Brady doesn’t do that. His response was clearly written by a Pats attorney. Was he happy? Yes. He orchestrated the trade of JG and Daddy Kraft was to glad to oblige.
    =========================
    Sigh – it was his weekly radio broadcast. You can download the broadcast if you felt so inclined. It’s blatantly obvious it was anything but a prepared statement but yeah … carry on.

  102. I’m not saying this is true but it’s not hard to imagine why he wouldn’t name his sources.it happens all the time and nobody would ever give him a story if he mentioned them.

  103. if I say that you are a racist and then you deny it, than that means it must be true because you pushed back against an erroneously false statement?

    Good point. But it also doesn’t mean it’s not truE. Whether true or not, what else would you expect them to say.
    The real interesting part of love to know is if this was made up, why…

  104. thesilentshoplifter says:
    January 9, 2018 at 5:52 pm
    Brady never once disclaimed that he was behind the JG trade. He was only sad it happened. Tommy Boy is a shill.
    =========================
    Like that would be enough for you. 😉

    Basically you are saying you’d believe Brady if he refuted the claim he wasn’t behind the trade. I would guess there are a lot of people questioning how confident you are in taking that position. I’d even go so far as to guess you’re questioning your own stance on that position right about now.

  105. Brett Favre was just interviewed on The Rich Eisen Show, and said this:

    “Tom Brady is better than Joe Montana. Nothing against Joe, but Tom has surpassed him.”
    — Brett Favre

  106. Lets face it. Some guys are always going to be fine with perpetuating any lie as long as it says something they want to beieve. What kills me though is that these are the same people that run around trying to say others dont have integrity.

  107. It could be worse.Could have signed osweiler(or drafted him),could have drafted lynch,manziel or traded away a starting QB and kept Kap.Or not built a “team” around luck.Could have kept jones and collins and not have any cap to build a roster that competes for SBs and be like denver.BBs “decisions” are better than most.So hate on haters and KISS THE RINGS…hope you enjoy watching the Patriots in the playoffs.

  108. If your a fan of the Titans pray for their soul as Brady and Bill shut down the rumour mill with a 40-0 beatdown, would be classic Belichick/Brady. I’m not a fan of either team but expect a great show either way as the boneheads in the booth dissect every move that Brady/ Belichick do. Notice how I said SHOW instead of GAME?

Leave a Reply

You must be logged in to leave a comment. Not a member? Register now!