Favre says he was concussed during 2009 NFC title game

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With the Saints and Vikings meeting in the postseason for the first time since the 2009 NFC title game (and despite the fact that only three players remain from the 106 on the teams’ active rosters), there will be plenty of talk about the bruising and battering absorbed by former Minnesota quarterback Brett Favre by Saints players who had a financial incentive (beyond the enhanced playoff share, the Super Bowl ring, and the fame that can be leveraged for marketing purposes) to apply (mostly) clean, legal hits in a way that would keep him from continuing.

Ultimately, nothing kept him from continuing, despite his lower legs being hit so many times that they turned the color of his helmet.

Favre now says that, in addition to the various low blows he took, Favre also suffered a concussion in the game.

“A concussion doesn’t necessarily have to be knocked out cold and removed from a game, although the new protocol is in place to remove you from a game even if you’re not walking sideways or your arm goes stiff or whatever,” Favre explained on KFAN radio (via ESPN.com). “You may even be able to function as if you didn’t have a concussion, but if you have head ringing or fireworks or any kind of fogginess, protocol says you should be removed from the game. In that game, there was some head ringing, there was some fogginess. There were two times in which I was hit by [former Saints safety] Darren Sharper late. He lunged at my head and both of them were pretty devastating hits, but I stayed in the game. One they threw a flag, one they didn’t. Why they didn’t throw the other, I have no idea. If head ringing or fireworks is a concussion, yeah, I did have that.”

There were a few missed roughing-the-pass fouls in that game. To Favre’s credit, he kept going.

Then again, that’s what he did throughout his career. So it’s hard to imagine just how many times he actually was concussed, since the bulk of his career was played before the NFL had its concussion epiphany in October 2009.

But Favre said he never took a beating worse than he did during the 2009 NFC title game. While that’s not directly relevant to this year’s game, there will be plenty of fans of both teams that will be thinking of it when the Saints and Vikings get together on Sunday.

79 responses to “Favre says he was concussed during 2009 NFC title game

  1. The thing that bothers me is that the saints ended Kurt Warner’s career the week before. Yet it wasn’t the saints d that rolled right and threw across the middle like a knob.

  2. “the fame that can be leveraged for marketing purposes”

    Such as commercials for razors and coppery knee braces.

  3. the refs did one hell of a job of swallowing their whistles that game….Saints should have been flagged numerous times and weren’t

  4. Playing with a concussion is never to a player’s credit. Especially at QB, you need your brain to function correctly so that you don’t hurt your team by throwing an INT to end regulation.

  5. Will you stop calling the saints dirty? They took the fall for the prevalent bounty system throughout the league. All the players know this

  6. He’s absolutely right, things have really changed regarding concussions.

    It used to be shrugged off as “he just got his bell rung”, not anymore.

  7. Of course he was concussed, the Saints had so many dirty cheapshots in that game. The Saints were a cheating, dirty team. They didn’t deserved to even be in the Super Bowl that year.

  8. Maybe we should remember this – and the fact that Favre played almost his entire career before the rules were adjusted to open up the passing game – any time we seek to look back on Favre’s career and adjust it. It is REMARKABLE how many short-memory people claim Favre as an overrated turnover machine, forgetting that he had multiple seasons when he put up stat lines like those of today when virtually NOBODY else was at the time (reminder: Troy Aikman cracked 20+ TDs ONCE). For a roughly three year period, Favre was at a level above his peers in a way that no one QB is today, and he likely was often doing it while concussed and/or loaded up on painkillers.

  9. Gregg Williams continued that cheap shot tradition with the Rams, giving Teddy Bridgewater a concussion courtesy of a Lamarcus Joyner cheap shot elbow to the head after he had given himself up with a feet first slide.

  10. That was the second worst beating that I have ever seen and yet he still almost won that game. The league was tired off Brett at the time so they let the saints shell him all day. The league put the hit out

  11. If I remember right, on Favre’s INT, he was rolling right and could have easily pulled down the ball and ran for a first down (there was no Saint within 10 yards of him) rather than throwing across his body. I think the Saints beat him up so badly that he didn’t want to risk another hit so instead, he threw away his last chance to get back to a Superbowl. Of course, it didn’t help when Childress sent 12 men into the huddle. Ah, fond memories of yet another Viking playoff choke.

  12. Honestly, Gregg Williams had been putting out bounties and cheating like the scumbag he is, for years and years.

    He should have been tossed from the league.

  13. Yeah but sadly, that’s why so many former players are so messed up right now. I totally agree with Brett… concussion does not always mean you’re wobbly, knocked out or whatever. I can only hope that football– all levels– continue to educate themselves.

    I played HS football in the 90s and I remember having “my bell rung” and recall how we all kind of laughed at it. That was the culture. It wasn’t malicious… we just didn’t know the effects of it. For the record… the headache I had the next day wasn’t anything to laugh about!!

  14. joelvis72 says:
    January 11, 2018 at 8:00 am

    “the fame that can be leveraged for marketing purposes”

    Such as commercials for razors and coppery knee braces.
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    Just for good measure, let’s throw in the 500 mindless commercials for assorted vehicles and cellular devices too!

  15. aliveguy24 says:
    January 11, 2018 at 7:48 am
    That explains the pick at the end. Or does it????

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    The pick shouldn’t have happened and probably wouldn’t have happened if Butterfingers Peterson wasn’t so insistent on putting the ball on the ground for what seemed like a dozen times. Parting ways with him was the best decision the Vikings have made in years.

  16. He did something similar in 2004 against the Giants. #4 took a hit from Strahan and was pulled for one play before sneaking back into the game on 4th down and threw a TD…after that he didn’t come back into the game.

  17. aliveguy24 says:
    January 11, 2018 at 7:48 am

    That explains the pick at the end. Or does it????

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    I don’t guess anyone can say but he ended several Packer games, some of them playoff games if memory serves, in the same manner. We always had to “live by the gunslinger, die by the gunslinger.” It could be frustrating for sure but I’m still glad he was a Packer all those years; he certainly kept it entertaining.

    Obviously you guys would have liked to win that game, and the next one, but would you rather they got knocked out early in the playoffs or would you rather have been engaged and excited right up to the very end, as you were? I’ll take the latter, every time.

  18. Any knowledgeable fan knows Saints didnt’ deserve that Superbowl title. The asterik is there for anyone who watches the game and they can have their tainted season. I want to win our title fairly and with honor…

  19. I was in the stands on the Vikes side of the field and I remember looking down and seeing Farve on a stretcher being examined and thinking there is no way he can stand up much less get back into the game. He wouldn’t be allowed back in if he played today. I went to Southern Miss but I’m a Saints fan so I’m obviously glad the Saints won but I felt bad for Brett because that was the worst beating I’ve ever seen a QB take.

  20. hate to break it to you but if the bounty is financially insignificant its not cheating. the 2009 saints were the best team of the 00’s. started 13-0 and played nothing but SB winner QBs in the playoffs

  21. Commit that many turnovers & leave many scores on the table…….Vikes had no one to blame but themselves.

    Yes, the Saints played dirty & yes the refs had some hanus calls late & in OT that no football game should see (only Mariota Forward Progress was worse). In a game like that, you cannot put your team in a position to for those factors to decide the game.

  22. It is still unfathomable to me how Gregg Williams was let back into the League.

    I have always kind of liked the SAINTS, but what they were doing was so out of line against the brotherhood of Football that it was indefensible.

    Re: Favre, he played with reckless abandon, and I worry for him as he gets older. However he is a huge investor in a company that is researching a Concussion drug.

  23. It did help every Viking fan though when the next week the officials admitted they should have called 2 personal fouls on N.O. that they missed…….so that was nice and makes up for the loss. (sarcasm)

    Let’s hope this weekend of FB brings no obvious and costly officiating errors.

  24. Nothing against Brees, but if he goes down on a legal hit… Oops.
    I’m NOT sorry if we break your quarterback, within the rules.

    That was dirty in 09. A little payback within the rules would be nice.

  25. @kennylc2015 says:
    I played HS football in the 90s and I remember having “my bell rung” and recall how we all kind of laughed at it. That was the culture. It wasn’t malicious… we just didn’t know the effects of it. For the record… the headache I had the next day wasn’t anything to laugh about!!
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    A few years ago, a football player at University High School in Normal, IL apparently suffered a concussion during practice. However, it wasn’t discovered until the next morning when he was driving his sister to school. She called their dad to tell him that her brother forget which way to go to get to school. The days of smelling salts are over!

  26. I remember that game like it was yesterday. In terms of “football fan candy,” that game was off the charts. Fabre just made the decision that he was NOT going to be derailed by the hits. There aren’t many players today who have that kind of warrior grit.

  27. I get the frustration of the whole bounty thing, I just don’t agree w it. In reality, you could think of every single contract given to an NFL defender as a bounty. Every one of them wants to jack up the opposing QB because that’s how they make millions upon millions of dollars.

    The saints were just giving them a little extra incentive. Everyone is fond of saying “the NFL is a business.” Ok, so consider the bounties to be employee spiffs. Those are incentives businesses use to get their employees to focus harder on the things they believe will be most beneficial to their company in any given quarter or year.

    So they weren’t bounties, they were spiffs. Although they should have counted against the salary cap, so the league could have dinged the Saints for that.

  28. Vikings also had a bounty program. Remi Ayodele played for both teams and admitted to it. Joe Vitt testified to this in court, but you people won’t research it. You trust Roger when it’s convenient.

  29. Frazier28/7 says:
    January 11, 2018 at 10:21 am
    Nothing against Brees, but if he goes down on a legal hit… Oops.
    I’m NOT sorry if we break your quarterback, within the rules.

    That was dirty in 09. A little payback within the rules would be nice.
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    What the Saints did in ’09 was within the rules. If you want someone to blame for that loss (besides Brett and AD) blame Chilly. If I think someone is roughing up my guy, I’m going to rough up their guy. I’m going to get in the referee’s face and I’m going to do what I can do to even it out. Late hits included.

    Chilly did nothing.

    And by the way, Carl Eller and Alan Page in their prime played no differently than the Saints played that day. It’s just a different era I guess. It’s still football. The idea is to hit and hit hard. But I’m sure most posters here don’t even remember those guys.

  30. In 09 high/low hits were a point of emphasis, yet they weren’t called in the Championship game, it was inexcusable, and the high/low hit, if called, would have made for an easy FG to ice the game…Refs gave the Saints that game, although it wouldn’t have even been a game if it wasn’t for AP fumbles…that’s how overmatched the Aints were that game, needed the Refs and 4 TOs to win the game. FAKE Champions…

  31. the refs did one hell of a job of swallowing their whistles that game….Saints should have been flagged numerous times and weren’t
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    What? The only reason the Vikings had a chance was because the refs kept turning the Vikings 4th downs into 1st downs all game long.

  32. The thing that bothers me is that the saints ended Kurt Warner’s career the week before
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    Warner came out the next day and said it was a LEGAL hit. Smh

  33. sb44champs says:
    January 11, 2018 at 11:33 am
    The thing that bothers me is that the saints ended Kurt Warner’s career the week before
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    Warner came out the next day and said it was a LEGAL hit. Smh
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    Yes, and not only that, but Warner could have returned to the game, but the rout was on so Whisenhunt decided that there was no point. Warner would’ve been ready to go the next week. This whole narrative that the Saints ended Warner’s career is bogus. Warner was going to retire anyway following the season.

  34. Folks these are professional football teams that will do anything for an advantage. You are sadly mistaken if you don’t think your favorite team is cheating in some way. Millions of dollars are at stake. It’s why coaches cover their mouths when they call in plays on the sideline. These coaches and players have spent their whole lives trying to get an edge. It’s the nature of competition. Think of it like a player who gets caught with PED’s. These players get “wink” “wink” warning before their tests and yet they are dumb enough to still get caught. Imagine the number of players who are actively using PEDs and not getting caught?

  35. We know. The League conspired to send the Saints to SuperBowl. As much trash as is talked about Favre throwing a pick at the end, the fact is he beat the Saints. They had to cheat with the help of the refs to win. I don’t like the Saints or the Vikings (Lions fan), but I know what I saw.

  36. NO got called for 3 unnecessary roughness plays during this game.
    1) Bobby McCray -15 yards
    1) Jonathan Casillias -15 yards
    1) Anthony Hargrove -15 yards.

    If it’s excessive or unnecessary that is addressed in the rule book and the officials will call it when they see it. Just like they did in this game being discussed.

  37. Gregg Williams absolutely put out a “Cart Off” bounty for Favre. In fact there is audio of someone expecting to get paid when he was carted off. Fact.

  38. Gregg Williams absolutely put out a “Cart Off” bounty for Favre. In fact there is audio of someone expecting to get paid when he was carted off. Fact.
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    Goodell’s predecessor Tagliabue rescinded all player’s suspensions. Fact.

  39. What? The only reason the Vikings had a chance was because the refs kept turning the Vikings 4th downs into 1st downs all game long.

    >>>

    Child Please. The only reason you were even in the game was the refs looking the other way and the Vikings turning the ball over.

  40. Some facts about that game. It was hard fought by both teams, both teams were knocking the snot out of each other, and down to the end could have gone either way. The Vikings had more yards and time of possession, but the Saints dominated as far as turnovers, special teams, and field position. As far as the refs favoring the Saints, that’s not accurate. The penalties went Saints 9-88, Vikings 5-32. There were some close calls in OT, but the correct rulings were made each time, they just didn’t go the Vikings way.

    As far as the Saints defense, it was indeed relentless that day. They fought and scrapped, and yes they attacked the quarterback (you’d think the Vikings would have made protection adjustments after awhile), but they were also attacking the ball and forced 5 turnovers — 3 fumbles (out of five forced) and two picks. The defense looked like they were ready to run through a brick wall to win that game and deliver their city a Super Bowl berth, and Favre just had the misfortune of being in their way.

    And for what it’s worth, Adrian Peterson didn’t turn the ball over that day. He did fumble twice but recovered both of them, though there was a fumbled hand-off near the goal line late in the first half (right after Reggie Bush turned it over on a muffed punt) that was credited to Favre. And as far as Kurt Warner the week before, the Saints didn’t “end his career.” He did take a hard shot during an interception return late in the first half, but he played the entire second half.

  41. booker1974

    Yes, the Vikings had more yards and time of possession, but the Saints had over 180 yards in punt and kick returns. The Vikings had 48. The Saints consistently had better field position and thus didn’t have as far to go to score.

  42. Those dirty Saints!!!!!!!

    On Monday the league suspended Vikings’ linebacker Andrew Sendejo for one game for an illegal hit on Sunday on Ravens veteran receiver Mike Wallace. Sendejo was given an unnecessary roughness penalty by the refs, who couldn’t help but see that Wallace’s helmet flew off during the hit. Xavier Rhodes, the first Viking to contact Wallace, already had both of Wallace’s arms pinned from behind and was pulling him to the ground when Sendejo smashed into a defenseless Wallace, helmet to helmet.

    The league euphemistically called it a “violation of safety-related player rules.” Wallace missed the rest of the game and is in the concussion protocol.

    The NFL’s letter sent to Sendejo read as follows: “The violation was flagrant and warrants a suspension because it could have been avoided, was violently directed at the head and neck area and unreasonably placed both you and an opposing player at risk of serious injury.”

  43. eaglesmancave says:
    January 11, 2018 at 10:49 am
    The Saints stole that game. The officiating was absolutely horrenfous in that game and they got away with murder. Fake Champions

    Made because you won’t be REAL champions this year? #WentzInPain

  44. Liberalsruineverything says:
    January 11, 2018 at 8:18 am
    The Saints did it the whole season. They jeopardized men’s careers. Sean Payton and Gregg Williams are despicable human beings and should have been banned for life.

    But they aren’t are they conservatard?

  45. codylaws says:
    January 11, 2018 at 8:31 am
    He should file law suit against the Saints for putting bounty on him. Cheaters will lose this week.
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    The Saints players who were given suspensions filed a lawsuit against the league. The league dropped all suspensions because they knew the bounty allegations wouldn’t hold up in a court of law. Case dismissed.

  46. I can’t believe the Saints did this to Favre!!!!!

    “Bountygate” will forever be remembered as the vicious pay-to-injure program implemented by the 2009 New Orleans Saints. Specifically, “Bountygate” became a term after the Saints brutalized former Vikings quarterback Brett Favre in the NFC Championship Game.

    But the Saints weren’t the only team with a bounty on opposing players, according to a quote from former Vikings offensive lineman Artis Hicks in a new book about Favre, Deadspin says.

    The Vikings had a similar system in place.

    “I had coaches start a pot and all the veterans put in an extra $100, $200, and if you hurt someone special, you get the money,” Hicks said in Jeff Pearlman’s book Gunslinger: The Remarkable, Improbable, Iconic Life of Brett Favre.

  47. The Vikings would never condone such behavior…

    Former New Orleans Saints defensive lineman Remi Ayodele blasted Anthony Hargrove on Sunday, after his former teammate claimed that it was Ayodele who said “give me my money” in a video clip after a hit on Brett Favre in the 2009 NFC title game….

    New Orleans Saints defensive tackle Remi Ayodele has agreed to terms with the Minnesota Vikings, according to a league source.

    The deal is reportedly a 3-year one worth $9 million.

    Ayodele has played with the Saints for three seasons and had 21 total tackles last season with a sack and a forced fumble.

  48. 1992 – 2001

    During an ESPN.com chat, then-ESPN analyst Jeremy Green admitted the Vikings used fake crowd noise when his father, Dennis Green, was the coach there. Both the Colts and the Vikings, who play in domed stadiums, admittedly play loud music to distract the opponent, and are famous for unfailingly-loud crowds, but both teams staunchly deny they artificially enhance their fans’ cheers.

  49. 1990’s

    Former Minnesota Viking wide receiver Cris Carter confessed to Mike Hill and Mark Schlereth of ESPN Radio on Tuesday that he did indeed pay what he called “protection money” to do what needed to be done.

    “I’m guilty of [bounties] — I mean, first time I’ve ever admitted it — but I put a bounty on guys before,” Carter said. “I put bounties on guys. If a guy tries to take me out, a guy takes a cheap shot on me? I put a bounty on him right now!”

  50. 2014

    In November 2014, The Minnesota Vikings played their coldest home game in 38 years, when they beat the Carolina Panthers in 12-degree temperatures at TCF Bank Stadium.

    As both teams dealt with the freezing temperatures, Fox cameras showed (at 2 min. 50 sec. of the embedded video) sideline attendants using heaters to warm up game balls, which was against league rules. NFL vice president of officiating Dean Blandino said the day after the game that officials warned both the Vikings and Panthers not to heat up the balls during Sunday’s game, and would remind teams this week not to heat game balls.

  51. 2008

    In 2008, The Green Bay Packers filed a tampering charge against the Minnesota Vikings for communicating with retired quarterback Brett Favre. Favre, who was on the reserve-retired list, was still the property of the Packers, which left the quarterback off limits for conversations with coaches or front-office employees of another team.

  52. madddogg365 says:
    January 11, 2018 at 2:29 pm
    eaglesmancave says:
    January 11, 2018 at 10:49 am
    The Saints stole that game. The officiating was absolutely horrenfous in that game and they got away with murder. Fake Champions

    Made because you won’t be REAL champions this year? #WentzInPain
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    Yes what a tragedy losing a starting QB. How will the Eagles pull it all together. Hopefully they don’t lose their number 1 RB also or they would really be in trouble. No team can recover if that happens. #geniuis

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