Will Josh McDaniels choose the Colts?

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As mentioned in a catch-all item from Saturday that looked at the various lingering coaching vacancies, the Colts have whittled their list of potential coaches down to two.

One is Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels. The other, via Ian Rapoport of NFL Media, is Texans defensive coordinator Mike Vrabel.

If Vrabel was the first choice, logic suggests he’d have the job. Which suggests that the Colts want McDaniels.

Here’s the more important question: Does McDaniels want the Colts?

On the surface, the fact that he’s even entertaining the possibility is a stunner, given that it’s believed he wants a Belichick-style situation, where McDaniels runs the show. In Indianapolis, G.M. Chris Ballard runs the show, and McDaniels would at very most be working with the second-year G.M.

But McDaniels, we’re told, is fascinated with the prospect of coaching Andrew Luck, a player McDaniels believes can mentally match Tom Brady — and physically exceed him.

The Titans job remains a wildcard in this potential hire, since a decision to make a coaching change could reunite McDaniels with former Patriots executive Jon Robinson. The deeper question for McDaniels is whether he’d choose working with Marcus Mariota over working with Luck.

Mariota has the potential to be great, but Luck has the potential to be greater, assuming his shoulder fully heals.

With McDaniels and Ballard, the Colts have the potential to be make Indianapolis great again (#MIGA?), which definitely will have Patriots fans hoping for anything but McDaniels joining the team that instigated #DeflateGate three years ago as of Thursday.

52 responses to “Will Josh McDaniels choose the Colts?

  1. That would be devastating because I would be forced to hate the Colts less.

    Adding to that pain is that I do not dislike Andrew Luck, and I do like Brissett.

    What is a Pats fan to do under the scenario of McDaniels taking the Colts job?

  2. McDaniels had a lot of the control in Denver and it was a bust. Ballard is a guy who knows what he is doing in Indy. Colts have a ton of cap space coming. Nobody really believes that Belichick is gonna stay in New England much longer…ditto Brady. Who would really want to be the guy that follows that tandem? McDaniels is too smart for that. So is Patricia.

  3. If the Pats win another SB, he’ll go. He’s the best OC in the league….super creative. I think he got jobbed in Denver as a HC . Tebow had a pretty good year under him

  4. The New York Giants is the job. A long standing original member of the NFL.
    Great City ..tradition …….market ….this is what McDaniels truly wants.
    However , it is also time to move on. Indy is not New York but is still
    a great town, with hopefully, a healthy top QB.

  5. Anyone with options will not work for an insane owner. That is why Belichick left the Jets and came to the Pats.

  6. This isn’t going to happen. The Colts could have hired Charlie Weis. He was the first “Josh McDaniels”. The 4-12 Texans have another “Josh McDaniels”. I don’t think Ballard is going in that direction.

  7. As long as he leaves NE to join somebody, who cares? Patricia is gone to Detroit.
    Hopefully, this is the second leg kicked under the NE club.
    Most of us are so tired of ‘Patriot’.
    To hopefully see their head coach gone , at end of 2018, with the other two, would be a gut punch to the NE faithful who have been sooooooo spoiled for sooooooo long.

  8. They have a good QB already in place and some decent offensive weapons. Can’t say the same for a lot of the other potential landing spots. Defense needs fixing though. They should draft Saquon with the 3rd pick.

  9. The Colts still need to pay the NFL one million dollars and forfeit a 1st and 2nd round draft picks and have Andrew Luck sit out for 4 games after he is healthy because the Colts were caught using footballs that were below 12.50 PSI.

    Unless the NFL wants to finally release the PSI data that was collected during the 2015 NFL season which will show everyone that footballs always drop PSI when it’s cold outside. Then the NFL will have to award the Patriots extra draft picks because everyone will understand that the Patriots were cheated by the NFL.

  10. The NFL’s version of Kelly’s Heroes, get behind enemy lines and expose the truth of deflategate. Get access to Pagano and Grigson communication to implicate Sullivan, the strength trainer.

  11. “He should with a stud like Luck there”

    Luck has been little more than average most of his career, hardly a “stud”

    People are still buying into the predraft hype on the guy that has never proved to be true at the NFL level

  12. AtheistsareIdiots says:
    January 14, 2018 at 11:06 am
    If the Pats win another SB, he’ll go. He’s the best OC in the league….super creative. I think he got jobbed in Denver as a HC . Tebow had a pretty good year under him
    ————-

    What is with this narrative…the year Tebow started in Denver John Fox was the coach

  13. Surely the Denver Broncos experience taught Josh that it’s not just landing a head coaching job, it’s important to land the right head coaching job, where you have a chance to succeed. The Indianapolis Colts are a train wreck with a dreadful owner. If Luck is healthy (and it’s a big IF), he has a good QB. However, he still lacks an O-line and a Defense. My advice to Josh would be to wait in New England and continue to rack up Super Bowl rings rather than regress to the steaming dumpster in Indy. Your turn will come. Patience is a virtue.

  14. “On the surface, the fact that he’s even entertaining the possibility is a stunner, given that it’s believed he wants a Belichick-style situation, where McDaniels runs the show.”

    This is the same Josh McDaniels who went 11-17 in Denver, failing to last the entire 2nd season?

  15. The Denver experiment was considered by most to be a failure but honestly I think history proved he was right in wanting to get rid of most of those players.

    Cutler never was able to take a team past mediocrity, Marshall is a headcase whose production was matched and exceeded by DT while not being a cancer and who knows what could have been with Tebow provided he stayed and was given an opportunity.

    Problem was he was up against fans with a short memory and no appreciation for allowing a process to play out.

  16. AtheistsareIdiots says:
    January 14, 2018 at 11:06 am
    If the Pats win another SB, he’ll go. He’s the best OC in the league….super creative. I think he got jobbed in Denver as a HC . Tebow had a pretty good year under him
    ————–
    His anger management issues, over-the-top arrogance, and taping the 49ers practices in London didn’t help Josh’s job security.

  17. The other big factor is whether McDaniels wants to work under that loose cannon of an owner, Irsay. I doubt it, especially after working for a guy like Bob Kraft.

  18. The only wrinkle is that Luck is done. Apparently you can set your watch to the clicking noises in his shoulder.

  19. McDaniels should stick in N.E., but I get that some guys feel the need to have the top spot and want control. Maybe he would do better in his second chance, but I think he is a very good coordinator and won’t be a great head coach.

    That said, I don’t get all of the love for Andrew Luck. If you look at his full body of work, I would judge his ceiling to maybe become a good QB, but not a top 5 QB. Throw in the injury issues, and he looks like he might struggle to consistently be a top 10 QB.

  20. orangepoison43 says:
    January 14, 2018 at 11:32 am
    Stay away from Irsay.
    They only won ONE championship, beating an anemic Bears team, even with Peyton Manning and Tony Dungy there for years
    —————
    Irsay is a trainwreck, and that Bears team was weak, but give the Colts some credit — the AFC conference game that year vs a very good Pats team was a classic. And they did go to the big show again.

    Colts seems like a good situation for McDaniels – just limit his roster control.

  21. There is one…and I repeat one Belichick. McDaniels tried to be the 2.0 version in Denver and it failed miserably. He hasn’t done anything to be given all authority over an organization.

  22. These aren’t the same Colts that instigated deflategate. That was really a Ryan Grigson production. Ballard seems like a good guy and the Patriots have already done a deal with him. McDaniels can probably help Andrew Luck and this move makes sense for him.

  23. I have a gut feeling that McDaniels becomes the new Patriots head coach, and Belichick becomes the new head coach of the Giants.

    Yes, yes, Belichick is still under contract. However, given all that he has done for the Patriots, I would imagine Kraft would cut him a break and let him move on, if he really wanted to do so. The Giants would probably have to compensate the Pats with draft picks. Probably a number one and a couple later round picks.

    Bill is no spring chicken, the Patriots can’t expect to get much more than what I mentioned in compensation. If Bill was ten or more years younger, then yeah the Patriots could get more for Bill, but not at Bill’s current age.

    IIRC, McDaniels’ has had opportunities to move on in the past after the fiasco in Denver, but hasn’t.

  24. Working for the erratic owner Jimmy Irsay who has problems with alcohol is not a good situation. Now if Josh receives a 10 year $100 million contract Like Jon Gruden then he should take it.

  25. Irsay and mcdaniels are not a good combination.

    On top of that Luck has been good but far from great and who knows what his injury future has in store.

    Lucks career so far has been a disappointment from what was expected

  26. whenever i think of Andrew Luck, I’m reminded of Ryan Leaf when looked at through the richter scale of BUST.

  27. bemsqua says:
    January 14, 2018 at 12:30 pm
    There is one…and I repeat one Belichick. McDaniels tried to be the 2.0 version in Denver and it failed miserably. He hasn’t done anything to be given all authority over an organization.

    ————–

    You do realize that this was a very long time ago, don’t you? He was much less experienced back then and Bowlen made the foolish error of pairing a rookie HC with a rooke GM.

    Even Belichick wasn’t Belichick at his first HC gig.

  28. If I wanted to prove myself as a coach, after a previous failure, working for “nose candy” Jim would not be the place to go—-no matter who the general manager is.

  29. According to his new agent Tony Romo, who also apparently represents Matt Patricia he going. At least Romo said so 12-15 times last night.

  30. Whoever supposedly told you that McDaniels thinks Luck can mentally match Brady….. they were lying to you.

  31. I can’t imagine Luck is nearly as fascinated with working for the miniFuhrer. If he is, he ought to research the disaster called the McD Broncos.

  32. I know Luck’s a franchise QB – IF he’s healthy. Outside of that, I can’t see why anyone would choose the Colts over the Giants. Seriously, would you rather work for Mara or Irsay?
    OTOH, he did draft Tebow in the first round……

  33. Josh McDaniels is not going to leave. He is all good with the job he has. Denver was a mess for him, and his family hated being there. He has a rock star life in a wonderful place. Maybe he gets the head coach job when Bill steps away. Or not. Love and family are huge. Josh does not care about millions. He already has them. His kids and bride are ecstatic to live in southeast Massachusetts. So. The guy just stays home.

  34. What would really have been funny would have been, if Marv has not been inexplicably resigned by the Bungles, Belichick to them. Then he could start a press conference by uttering his famous words…

  35. Please go to Indy. I’m bettin he will be the exact same train wreck he was in Denver. Another great OC but will be a bust as an HC. You read it here first…

  36. the smart choice would e stay in NE and succeed BB in a year or two. Patricia is off to Detroit. If Josh leaves this year it would be for the NYG.

  37. I just don’t understand all the hype with Luck. Unfortunately, he’s injury-prone.
    They’ve spent a ton of money on this kid with little to show for it. They continue to wait and see what his shoulder does, but he’s just not a healthy QB. One thing heals, then something else blows up. He may be a smart kid, but not so when it comes to protecting his health. I think Josh will pass on this one.

  38. One For The Thumb says:
    January 14, 2018 at 12:54 pm
    bemsqua says:
    January 14, 2018 at 12:30 pm
    There is one…and I repeat one Belichick. McDaniels tried to be the 2.0 version in Denver and it failed miserably. He hasn’t done anything to be given all authority over an organization.

    ————–

    You do realize that this was a very long time ago, don’t you? He was much less experienced back then and Bowlen made the foolish error of pairing a rookie HC with a rooke GM.

    Even Belichick wasn’t Belichick at his first HC gig.

    ———————————-
    Actually he kind of was, he had the Browns trending upward and I believe to date thats the most success they have had in decades. He just didnt have the right owner situation, and thats something even Belichick needs in order to succeed. And thats also the point McDaniels needs to give careful thought to.

  39. Former Patriots backup QB Jacoby Brissette has taken Luck’s place under center in Indianapolis. Mike Vrabel would be another former Patriot.

  40. Look guys, I know we’re trying to sugarcoat it but the Denver thing really was a bust. It wasn’t the wins and losses. It was how McDaniels botched nearly every problem that came his way, from roster decisions to press conferences to player personalities. All of that without considering his taping of opposing teams illegally. He was fired because of his personality and immaturity, not because he was a terrible playcaller or schemer. He has the ability to call a great offense, and he’s a pretty good evaluator of player talent. His personality though is really awful for a position of control.

    I do think New England has matured him his second time there. I do think he learned from his time in Denver. But I do not think he’s changed so significantly that he’s become a different person. People don’t do that. And coupled with Jim Irsay, a meddling, drug addled owner that enjoys making quarterbacks try and play Superman? No, I don’t think McDaniels would have success.

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