Other quarterbacks pass when they’re losing, Tom Brady passes to win

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When a quarterback throws a lot of passes in a game, it usually means his team is losing. Tom Brady is different.

In Brady’s NFL career, he has thrown 50 or more passes a total of 28 times, including both regular season and postseason games, through Saturday’s 53-pass game against the Titans. That’s by far the most for any quarterback in NFL history, but that’s not what really sets Brady apart.

What really sets Brady apart is that the Patriots’ record when he throws 50 or more passes is 19-9. No other quarterback in NFL history has come close to that kind of success when passing a lot.

Drew Brees is second in NFL history, throwing 50 or more passes in 19 games. His teams’ record in those games is 4-15.

Peyton Manning is third in NFL history, with 50 or more passes in 17 games. His teams’ record in those games is 4-13.

Dan Marino is fourth in NFL history with 16 games of 50 passes or more. His teams’ record in those games was 5-11.

Brady has won six postseason games when throwing 50 or more passes. No other quarterback in NFL history has won more than once when throwing 50 or more passes in the postseason.

Brady has won 13 regular-season games when throwing 50 or more passes passes. No other quarterback in NFL history has won more than five games when throwing 50 or more passes in the regular season.

The reason for all this is that most teams only throw a lot of passes when they’re way behind and are trying to catch up. For every other quarterback in NFL history, that dramatically skews the stats, so that high passing totals usually come in losing efforts.

But Brady and Bill Belichick are different: If passing a lot is working, they’ll keep doing it. That was on display Saturday against the Titans, who have a good run defense but a bad pass defense. The Patriots were successful throwing the ball, so they kept throwing the ball. Brady’s last pass of the game came with six minutes remaining in the fourth quarter and the Patriots leading 35-7. Most teams don’t pass in that situation, but Brady and Belichick do.

On Sunday against the Jaguars, the Patriots are unlikely to repeat that strategy, because the Jaguars have a good pass defense and a bad run defense. But if passing is working for the Patriots they’ll do it, even 50 times a game, even with a big lead.

110 responses to “Other quarterbacks pass when they’re losing, Tom Brady passes to win

  1. Not to take anything away from Brady, but that’s really a Belichick stat. His willingness to do whatever works in any given situation, rather than going by-the-book, is why Brady is such an outlier on that.

    And, of course, their ability to run a ball-control, clock-killing passing game…

  2. One of many differences between BB and Tomlin: BB game plans to take advantage of the opponents weakness, Tomlin says “we do what we do”.

  3. Up 28 with 6 mins left and throwing long bombs… cant knock them because their records say it all. But one of these times that late hit on QB or whatever could be costly.

  4. Though we despise them here in Pittsburgh, you have to respect the Patriots disciplined approach and attention to detail. Some of their shenanigans aside, you aren’t consistently successful for so long unless you’re doing a lot of things right. I hate tp say it, but the Steelers could use some more of that approach…

  5. The quick short passing game is an extension of the Patriots running game. They are like long hand offs. The goal is to continue to gain first downs and keep the drive going. Eventually you will end up in the redzone. (Red “area” as BB likes to say) If all goes to plan you end up in the endzone. They are not trying to be explosive, quick strike but it’s a way to stay on the attack while at the same time keeping the clock ticking down.

    Impatient people may be oblivious as to why they do this tactic. It reduced the # of incomplete passes (which stop the clock and works against your cause of passing with the lead) and it keeps your own defense fresh and on the sideline.

  6. I remember back in like 2003 or 2004, the Patriots had a game, in which they were always leading, they threw the ball 26 times over the course of 27 plays.

    They just felt like they had the matchup they liked and they were going to take advantage of the matchup. They threw it like 51 times and ran it like 15 times, and they were like, hey, that’s the matchup we wanted.

    Sean Payton is really the only other guy that does anything like that, and even he and Brees are not anywhere as successful as Brady and Bellichick.

    And the Patriots believe in running the ball, and you go and look, they ALWAYS have good Running Backs that are versatile, but they go with the favorable matchup and execute.

    My team has had success against them, but you have to respect this approach to Football.

  7. I think that stat is inflated a little because the Pats often use a lot of short passes to the RBs instead of running plays.

    That said Brady’s the king, no question about it. The player who most reminds me of him was Dan Marino. It didn’t matter if the Pats were up 3 or 4 TDs with only a few minutes left, Marino never ever gave up and you sweated that lead until the last second ticked off the clock.

    Brady has that same never give in mentality. If there’s a way to pull out a win from what seemed a loss Brady does it.

  8. steelerdeathstar says:
    January 16, 2018 at 11:28 am
    Though we despise them here in Pittsburgh, you have to respect the Patriots disciplined approach and attention to detail. Some of their shenanigans aside, you aren’t consistently successful for so long unless you’re doing a lot of things right. I hate tp say it, but the Steelers could use some more of that approach…

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    Firing Trippy will help. Just sayin. 🙂

  9. The one issue a person could have with this assessment is that New England trailed in every single one of the games Brady threw 50 or passes in, including last weekend, and the 19 wins include 10 – 4th quarter game winning drives.

  10. mazenblue says:
    January 16, 2018 at 11:24 am
    Tom Brady is the GOAT and everyone else isn’t.
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    Yep. That question was settled a long time ago.

    All other opinions are trash and therefore can be disregarded.

  11. Sunday will be bombs away against a rather overrated Jaguars secondary. I don’t see either Oboye or Ramsey have any success against Cooks. They will also have no answer for pass catching RBs.

  12. lyfordjr says:
    January 16, 2018 at 11:23 am
    Not to take anything away from Brady, but that’s really a Belichick stat. His willingness to do whatever works in any given situation, rather than going by-the-book, is why Brady is such an outlier on that.

    And, of course, their ability to run a ball-control, clock-killing passing game…

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    Right, it really has little to do with the person ACTUALLY THROWING THE FOOTBALL.

    Really??

  13. Why is this a story NOW?

    It is a clearly STATED FACT from the Cheaters’ coach that “it is not our job to stop scoring; it is yours to stop us” – so this ‘revelation’ here isn’t revealing at all – historically the Cheaters have run up scores (which pads stats).

    The last game in the playoffs against the Titans was a case where the Cheaters exploited the weakness and eschewed going to the strength. The Titans have a decent rush defense so Tomasina Brady passed repeatedly to go measure.

    It is so disgusting that an article like this is even “news” – what a joke.

  14. lyfordjr says:
    January 16, 2018 at 11:23 am
    Not to take anything away from Brady, but that’s really a Belichick stat. His willingness to do whatever works in any given situation, rather than going by-the-book, is why Brady is such an outlier on that.

    And, of course, their ability to run a ball-control, clock-killing passing game…

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    In fairness, it is 50/50 Belichick and Brady. Belichick isn’t calling 50 passing plays if Mark Sanchez is his QB. The reason he can do it is BECAUSE he has a QB that he can trust to complete the throws and keep the clock and chains moving. When you have the lead you want 2 things: first, the clock to be running, and second hopefully possession of the football. For the Pats, throwing the ball is often the way maintain both.

  15. lyfordjr says:
    January 16, 2018 at 11:23 am

    Not to take anything away from Brady, but that’s really a Belichick stat. His willingness to do whatever works in any given situation, rather than going by-the-book, is why Brady is such an outlier on that.
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    Not to take anything away from Belichick but that’s really a Brady stat. If Brady didn’t make it work by reading what’s in front of him and getting the ball out quickly they wouldn’t be doing it. Together they have mastered situational awareness and taking what the defense gives them but it isn’t Belichick making those throws while protecting the ball.

  16. Ultraviolet Thunder says:
    January 16, 2018 at 11:40 am
    Why is this a story NOW?

    It is a clearly STATED FACT from the Cheaters’ coach that “it is not our job to stop scoring; it is yours to stop us” – so this ‘revelation’ here isn’t revealing at all – historically the Cheaters have run up scores (which pads stats).

    The last game in the playoffs against the Titans was a case where the Cheaters exploited the weakness and eschewed going to the strength. The Titans have a decent rush defense so Tomasina Brady passed repeatedly to go measure.

    It is so disgusting that an article like this is even “news” – what a joke.

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    My rating for the above post: 😥 😥 😥

    😀

  17. .
    The Patriots will generally take what is given. If you stack the box, they will pass. If you drop seven into coverage, they will run it at you. If you play base defense, they will find a mismatch, such as Gronk in single coverage versus a linebacker. If you blitz,…. well now we’re just talking crazy talk.
    .

  18. commentawaitingdeletion says:
    January 16, 2018 at 11:44 am
    lyfordjr says:
    January 16, 2018 at 11:23 am

    Not to take anything away from Brady, but that’s really a Belichick stat. His willingness to do whatever works in any given situation, rather than going by-the-book, is why Brady is such an outlier on that.
    _______________________________________________

    Not to take anything away from Belichick but that’s really a Brady stat. If Brady didn’t make it work by reading what’s in front of him and getting the ball out quickly they wouldn’t be doing it. Together they have mastered situational awareness and taking what the defense gives them but it isn’t Belichick making those throws while protecting the ball.

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    People talk about “a system” with Brady and you’d think after 17 seasons of dominance they would have figured out by now that Brady IS the “system”.

    No Brady? No system.

    It isn’t rocket science.

  19. lyfordjr says:
    January 16, 2018 at 11:23 am
    Not to take anything away from Brady, but that’s really a Belichick stat. His willingness to do whatever works in any given situation, rather than going by-the-book, is why Brady is such an outlier on that.
    And, of course, their ability to run a ball-control, clock-killing passing game…

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    It’s not BB. It’s Brady. When the game is on the line and nothing else is working, Brady finds a way to move the ball. Look what he did in his last two Super Bowls in the 4th quarter. Once he gets into that mode he is the most unstoppable QB in the history of the game. Brady’s stats are so crazy related to the number of games he’s won throwing more than 50 times because he is successful at coming back so often. He gets probably 2-3 wins per year more than other QBs doing this.

  20. Watched Do Your Job Part II on NFL Network last night. The Patriots exploit individual matchups to an unbelievable level of detail.

  21. walker1191 says:
    January 16, 2018 at 11:24 am
    One of many differences between BB and Tomlin: BB game plans to take advantage of the opponents weakness, Tomlin says “we do what we do”.
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    Actually it’s the difference between BB and 99.99% of all other coaches out there, period.

  22. The Patriots were tied or behind in the second half of 24 of the 28 games Brady threw 50+ passes in.

  23. commentawaitingdeletion

    Agreed. That is a Brady stat. Brady was doing this at Michigan. If you go back and watch his Mich games (youtube) Brady looks like the Brady we see today. Ironically that was the knock on him coming out of Michigan. He was a spread QB that played 4 and 5 WR sets and had to play out of the shotgun. It would be awfully hard to argue against that is exactly what the NFL has become. The standard NFL offense in 2018 has the QB in the shotgun, with 3 WR’s as part of the base offense. The NFL looked quite different back in 2000. 2 WR sets with a TE and a FB (or 2 TE’s) was the standard base set. That is now a specialty package in this day of the passing era.

  24. walker1191 says:
    January 16, 2018 at 11:24 am

    One of many differences between BB and Tomlin: BB game plans to take advantage of the opponents weakness, Tomlin says “we do what we do”.

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    This! And not just Tomlin, it’s a fault of many successful-but-not-great coaches on all levels. It’s the adjustment/adaptation that Saban made a few years ago (Miles never did).

  25. If your an is as accurate as Brady. In would do the same. I laugh at some of these posts. Dang some need to get over the jealousy. The Patriots will come back to the pack in next couple years. Still be competitive, just not this insanely good. My Jags are in the upswing. This weekend will be interesting.

  26. The other thing the Patriots do other than passing to win is use smaller receivers to create separation, move the chains, get first downs and have time of possession. Julian Edelman, Phillip Dorsett, Brandin Cooks, Danny Amendola; Moreover years ago Wes Welker and Troy Brown! All are smaller receivers who were able to create separation. They are not the prototype receivers regarding their size. Belichick has his own prototype that works!

  27. The 8 Playoff games Brady threw 50+ passes in….

    2016 SB trailed Atlanta by 19 in the 4th quarter. Won 34-28 OT
    2015 AFCG trailed Denver by 8 in the 4th quarter. Lost 20-18
    2014 SB trailed Seattle by 10 in the 4th quarter. Won 28-24
    2014 Div trailed Baltimore by 3 in the 4th quarter. Won 35-31 trailed by 14 twice in 3rd Q
    2012 AFCG trailed Baltimore by 15 in the 4th quarter. Lost 28-13
    2006 Div trailed SD by 8 in the 4th quarter. Won 24-21
    2001 Div trailed Oakland by 10 in the 4th quarter. Won 16-13 OT
    2017 Div trailed Tennesse by 7 in the 2nd quarter. Won 35-7

    Brady and Bill Belichick aren’t different: They throw a lot when they are desperate. Brady is just better than every other QB in history. The only time that wasn’t on display was Saturday against the Titans, who have a good run defense but a bad pass defense. Every other time the score dictated throwing the ball.

  28. Brady is basically a chicken
    Throws 5-yard passes to avoid sacks
    His passing yardage totals should always be divided by 5
    Most boring offense and QB in the league

  29. Ultraviolet Thunder says:
    January 16, 2018 at 11:40 am
    Why is this a story NOW?

    It is a clearly STATED FACT from the Cheaters’ coach that “it is not our job to stop scoring; it is yours to stop us” – so this ‘revelation’ here isn’t revealing at all – historically the Cheaters have run up scores (which pads stats).

    The last game in the playoffs against the Titans was a case where the Cheaters exploited the weakness and eschewed going to the strength.

    Eschewed? what coach would eschew the weakness and run plays into the strength of the Defense? what is heavens name do you call that strategy? Intentional Losing?

    Is there a league that awards W’s for playing tough but stupid?

  30. I hear that he just throws dink and dunk passes, then I hear he’s throwing bombs down the field, but that’s impolite because they’re leading by too many points.

    What a dumpster fire the trolls are.

  31. In general, when Brady has needed to move the chains and use the clock, his best percentage plays were always passes to Faulk, Welker, and Edelman. It’s been tougher this year without that great slot receiver, but Amendola and the running backs are now getting to a point where the loss of Edelman hurts a bit less.

  32. these stats are remarkable for many reasons.
    In a copy cat league that is the NFL, why are other teams not employing this strategy?
    Mayeb….Brees and the Saints didn’t pass enough to earn a bye and get to the NFCCG?
    Whatever, the case, the Saints did not believe this strategy game them to best chance to win.

    Yet comments like this appear, ill-logical, inane comments that are designed to simply diminish Brady;

    “Not to take anything away from Brady, but that’s really a Belichick stat. His willingness to do whatever works in any given situation, rather than going by-the-book, is why Brady is such an outlier on that.”

    In this league, I can guarantee you 2 things; other teams know this already about the Pats and other teams will do everything in their power to win.
    It’s apparent to any non-Brady hater, that this has more to do with Brady’s other-worldly skill-set and less to do with Belichick

  33. (disclosure: I’m a Patriots Fan)

    IS one part of this equation that Brady makes a lot of short passes, and Brees/Manning took a lot of long passes and gambled too much?

  34. dwoofer says:

    January 16, 2018 at 12:34 pm

    Brady is basically a chicken
    Throws 5-yard passes to avoid sacks
    His passing yardage totals should always be divided by 5
    Most boring offense and QB in the league
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    yup lets take sacks to prove how tough someone is

    you also forgot to add: Best post Super Bowl parades 5X

  35. Those debating whether is a Brady or Belichick stat….its both of them. These are guys that adapt to whatever they need to ve to win. They take what their opponents give them. In a way you could say this is their opponents stat since thats the weakness they offered to have exploited.

    As far as calling Brady a chicken for the choices and methods he uses to win. Call him whatever makes you feel good he does not care. He wins.

  36. Lemmy Aksyadis says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:36 pm
    Ultraviolet Thunder says:
    January 16, 2018 at 11:40 am
    Why is this a story NOW?

    It is a clearly STATED FACT from the Cheaters’ coach that “it is not our job to stop scoring; it is yours to stop us” – so this ‘revelation’ here isn’t revealing at all – historically the Cheaters have run up scores (which pads stats).

    The last game in the playoffs against the Titans was a case where the Cheaters exploited the weakness and eschewed going to the strength.

    Eschewed? what coach would eschew the weakness and run plays into the strength of the Defense? what is heavens name do you call that strategy? Intentional Losing?

    Is there a league that awards W’s for playing tough but stupid?

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    Its clear enough. Playing to your opponents weaknesses rather than slamming yourself against their strengths is cheating.

  37. Why is this a story NOW?

    It is a clearly STATED FACT from the Cheaters’ coach that “it is not our job to stop scoring; it is yours to stop us” – so this ‘revelation’ here isn’t revealing at all – historically the Cheaters have run up scores (which pads stats).

    The last game in the playoffs against the Titans was a case where the Cheaters exploited the weakness and eschewed going to the strength. The Titans have a decent rush defense so Tomasina Brady passed repeatedly to go measure.

    It is so disgusting that an article like this is even “news” – what a joke
    ______________________________________________________________________________

    So they should go away from their game plan because they are up, right? Because there are no examples of teams coming back from large deficits, right? I mean their was no way the Bills could overcome a 32 point deficit in the 3rd quarter against the Oilers in 1993, right? Or the 49’s beating the Saints in 1980 when they trailed 35 to 7 at the half. Or the Rams beating the Bucs in 1987 being down 28 to 3 after three quarters. And of course we know the Pats couldn’t overcome a similar 28-3 score against the Falcons.

  38. From a different point of view ,from a team strategy moving forward , running the ball to run out the clock results in more pileups and thus more chances for injury passing the ball with completions accomplishes the same results with less chance of injury.

  39. trentdilfer08 says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:34 pm
    Knock Knock Brady They’re Coming For You!!! SKOL!!!
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    Brady has done it all in his career… there is almost nothing he can do in his career from now till he hangs em up that would top what he’s done already…

    BUT…this might be one. 🙂 If the Patriots and Vikings advance… and Brady and the Patriots manage to beat the Vikings in a true road game Super Bowl and shut down 60,000 screaming Vikings fans in that Stadium… just… wow. I can’t WAIT!

    🙂

  40. steelerdeathstar says:
    January 16, 2018 at 11:28 am
    Though we despise them here in Pittsburgh, you have to respect the Patriots disciplined approach and attention to detail. Some of their shenanigans aside, you aren’t consistently successful for so long unless you’re doing a lot of things right. I hate tp say it, but the Steelers could use some more of that approach…
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    Of course we expect you to despise them. A 2-11 record and losses in AFC Championship games would do that to any fan base. I get it. But regarding the “shenanigans” comment….Can you point me towards the results of the Steelers ball deflation scandal investigation? You know, when the Giants recently accused them of using soft footballs? How about coaches tripping players? Do you recall in the 70’s when the Steelers were secretly starting training camp 6 weeks before everyone else to gain a competitive advantage? Without the Internet and 24 hr news cycle they got away with it for a while. Shall we put asterisks on those 4 Lombardi Trophies from the 70’s?

    I think we can all agree that the shenanigans issues are over blown. Everyone tries to decipher signals and most were using film to do it, and still do. Weather causes pressure reductions and increases inside footballs. Headset problems plague teams across the league. Besides, if a coach isn’t doing everything he can to help his team win, even if it means pushing the limits, he’s not doing his job. Your comment about them doing things right and having a more disciplined approach is more accurate, and under the current circumstances I realize that was hard for you to say, so kudos for that. Had the Steelers made it to Foxborough and lost it may have been much harder to do. In a way, they may have avoided a much bigger embarrassment this season considering all of the things that were said by Steeler’s players and coaches about a rematch etc. It looks like the Patriots will have their hands full. Jacksonville looks like they are no joke. Similar to Coughlins Giants teams they are not an overwhelming team in the regular season, but appear to be able to do no wrong in the playoffs. Not all of his teams did that, and he missed the playoffs much more than he made them, but he had a way of occasionally getting a 9-7 or 10-6 team to play well in one game seasons. The Patriots will need that discipline you mentioned, and a lot of patience with their own game plan to put them away. It should be interesting.

  41. bobthebillsfan says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:10 pm

    Where is that dude that always refers to Brady as 2 yard Tom?

    Crying with the guy below…

    dwoofer says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:34 pm

    Brady is basically a chicken
    Throws 5-yard passes to avoid sacks
    His passing yardage totals should always be divided by 5
    Most boring offense and QB in the league

    How many SB wins does your team have in the past decade?

    And no, I am not a Pats fan but I love how TB12 lives rent free…

  42. dwoofer says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:34 pm
    Brady is basically a chicken
    Throws 5-yard passes to avoid sacks
    His passing yardage totals should always be divided by 5
    Most boring offense and QB in the league
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    ..and led the league in YPA this year. Brilliant comment.

  43. trentdilfer08 says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:34 pm
    Knock Knock Brady They’re Coming For You!!! SKOL!!!

    Yes they are! Those guys carrying the Lombardi Trophy want to know where he’d like this one.

  44. “Not to take anything away from Brady, but that’s really a Belichick stat. His willingness to do whatever works in any given situation, rather than going by-the-book, is why Brady is such an outlier on that.”

    Interesting to see how many people seem to have taken that as a criticism of Brady, which it definitely is not…

  45. idislikespeciousness says:
    January 16, 2018 at 11:54 am
    The Patriots were tied or behind in the second half of 24 of the 28 games Brady threw 50+ passes in.

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    Supports what I mentioned in my other post… It’s Brady. He’s incredible. It’s not because they have a plan to throw late in games when they have the lead.

    Brady is the one QB I have ever seen that can take the entire game on their shoulders and still win, consistently.

  46. dwoofer says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:34 pm
    Brady is basically a chicken
    Throws 5-yard passes to avoid sacks
    His passing yardage totals should always be divided by 5
    Most boring offense and QB in the league

    ———-

    Brady hits the available receiver deep, shallow or otherwise. Based on how that has correlated to wins it is the correct way to play QB.

    You might be bored by it, but being entertained by a gun slinging QB and watching them lose nearly every year is much worse.

  47. finzfan49 says:
    January 16, 2018 at 11:26 am
    Up 28 with 6 mins left and throwing long bombs… cant knock them because their records say it all. But one of these times that late hit on QB or whatever could be costly.
    _____

    And here I thought all Dolphins fans thought he only threw 3 yards passes….

  48. walker1191 says:
    January 16, 2018 at 11:24 am
    One of many differences between BB and Tomlin: BB game plans to take advantage of the opponents weakness, Tomlin says “we do what we do”.
    ============================

    The funny part is, when someone shuts down “what we do,” the Steelers players are surprised and say “How did they know what we were going to do? They must have cheated!”

  49. Supports what I mentioned in my other post… It’s Brady. He’s incredible. It’s not because they have a plan to throw late in games when they have the lead.
    Brady is the one QB I have ever seen that can take the entire game on their shoulders and still win, consistently.
    ____

    Agreed Bullcharger,

    I think no team in history has been as successful as the Patriots under dire circumstances because of Tom Brady. When one looks at the Patriots record when the defense allows a lot of points, or they get out rushed by a wide margin, or they are behind, or the weather is bad, or any bad circumstance one could dream of the constant is the consistent winning performance of the QB.

    I think this article actually does Brady a disservice. The Statistics of the games where he has to throw 50+ times don’t show that the team is winning the game, they show that the team has to catch up, which is the standard reason to throw a lot. What seems foreign and extraordinary is that Brady is just so good at it that writers search for some new angle. They think it is revolutionary strategy, it’s is really the simple fact that we are watching the greatest QB ever play at a level no one is used to.

  50. “People talk about “a system” with Brady and you’d think after 17 seasons of dominance they would have figured out by now that Brady IS the “system”.”

    I made that point earlier this year after in an interview to one of the homer press Brady pointed out there are roughly 1000-1200 pass plays in the playbook, of which at least 600 are used every year, and by extension there have to be at a minimum 200-300 running plays and some gadget plays on top of that.

    Brady’s ability to process the defense in front of him, and then audible to any one of literally 1500+ plays shows that Tom’s brain is the “system”. Period.

  51. trentdilfer08 says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:34 pm

    Knock Knock Brady They’re Coming For You!!! SKOL!!!
    ____________________________________

    ‘They’ have been coming for close to 2 decades now and he’s still standing at the top of the mountain. Refresh our memories, how many of them are? Here’s a thought for the current bunch, “When you come at the king you best not miss”

  52. 1) Brady is more careful with the ball than any other QB, so the risk of interception is low. That lets them pass on run downs, particularly late in the game when they’re covering a lead.

    2) The Patriots often use short passes as a substitute for the running game.

  53. “Brady is basically a chicken
    Throws 5-yard passes to avoid sacks
    His passing yardage totals should always be divided by 5
    Most boring offense and QB in the league”

    Lolz too bad Brady was #3 in the league this year in completions of 20+ yards in the air, and #1 in completions of 40+ yards in the air. Funny how people like you always ignore the actual facts of his play.

    Furthermore, so you think that Brady should just go ahead and hold the ball when the rushers are in his face so he can maybe if he’s lucky get off a low percentage long bomb or just take the sack instead of taking the yards and moving the chains? Really? Good think you don’t coach an NFL team, you’d be 0-16 every season.

  54. Ultraviolet Thunder says:
    January 16, 2018 at 11:40 am
    Why is this a story NOW?
    It is a clearly STATED FACT from the Cheaters’ coach that “it is not our job to stop scoring; it is yours to stop us” – so this ‘revelation’ here isn’t revealing at all – historically the Cheaters have run up scores (which pads stats).
    The last game in the playoffs against the Titans was a case where the Cheaters exploited the weakness and eschewed going to the strength. The Titans have a decent rush defense so Tomasina Brady passed repeatedly to go measure.
    It is so disgusting that an article like this is even “news” – what a joke.

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    Well, running up the score has nothing to do with it. Brady was behind in all these games. He’s just the only guy that finds a way to win when the games come down to him throwing it.

    Also… if you don’t like it, why do you read it and respond?

  55. That’s the league….Unless, your team’s offense is built off the run game first and foremost, like 90% of the league is.

    IF NE wants to run as the backdrop of a gameplan, though, they will.

    We’re only 10 years into this passing era/QB era thing. The fact some teams refuse to build their teams the way NE does, is comical.

  56. harrisonhits2 says:
    January 16, 2018 at 1:56 pm

    “Brady is basically a chicken
    Throws 5-yard passes to avoid sacks
    ————————————————————————–
    Ben looked super tough taking that sack and fumbling for a scoop and score TD last weekend.

  57. Slurp. Slurp. Slurp. The Brady lovefest this site has become, CONTINUES! Come on, the dude plays a kids game. (rather well, yes) but jeez-o-pete simmer down.

  58. harrisonhits2 says:
    January 16, 2018 at 1:53 pm
    “People talk about “a system” with Brady and you’d think after 17 seasons of dominance they would have figured out by now that Brady IS the “system”.”
    I made that point earlier this year after in an interview to one of the homer press Brady pointed out there are roughly 1000-1200 pass plays in the playbook, of which at least 600 are used every year, and by extension there have to be at a minimum 200-300 running plays and some gadget plays on top of that.
    Brady’s ability to process the defense in front of him, and then audible to any one of literally 1500+ plays shows that Tom’s brain is the “system”. Period.

    —-
    Yep. Well said.

  59. dwoofer says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:34 pm
    Brady is basically a chicken
    Throws 5-yard passes to avoid sacks
    His passing yardage totals should always be divided by 5
    Most boring offense and QB in the league

    ———-

    Boring? Putting up 30+ points per game and winning never get boring son…. Losing game after game and year after year….that is boring. And this Pats’ fan remembers it well.

  60. They know how to use players here plain and simple.Always watching the chess match on the field,Belechick is light years ahead of the rest.I like watching this team play.

  61. ‘They’ have been coming for close to 2 decades now and he’s still standing at the top of the mountain. Refresh our memories, how many of them are? Here’s a thought for the current bunch,

    “When you come at the king you best not miss”

    Omar Little. May he rest in peace.

  62. Well, when the current rules make the defense play with one arm behind their backs because it’s the way the NFL is designed to help passing offenses…you’re going to pass a lot. The Patriots were only smarter than other teams in realizing that. Remember, the NFL also implemented rules where QBs are untouchable because of Brady. So yeah, not impressed.

  63. BB or TB?

    Like arguing if the chocolate or peanut butter makes a peanut butter cup so good.

    Many things are greater than the sum of their parts. Not convinced? You go ahead and have 2 cups of flour for dessert, I’ll wait for the cake. Can’t make a cake without flour, or eggs, milk, vanilla, sugar etc etc etc.

  64. Jags need to steer Brady away from the dink passes and force him to throw downfield. But which Bortles is going to show up? Hate to say it, but yeah, Mike Tomlin should be fired for losing to the Jags when you got A.B, JuJu, Le’veon and Big Ben — what a disgrace!

  65. Lemmy Aksyadis says:
    January 16, 2018 at 3:17 pm
    BB or TB?
    Like arguing if the chocolate or peanut butter makes a peanut butter cup so good.
    Many things are greater than the sum of their parts. Not convinced? You go ahead and have 2 cups of flour for dessert, I’ll wait for the cake. Can’t make a cake without flour, or eggs, milk, vanilla, sugar etc etc etc.

    ———-

    That is true. No question.

  66. gauchosporlife says:
    January 16, 2018 at 3:08 pm
    Well, when the current rules make the defense play with one arm behind their backs because it’s the way the NFL is designed to help passing offenses…you’re going to pass a lot. The Patriots were only smarter than other teams in realizing that. Remember, the NFL also implemented rules where QBs are untouchable because of Brady. So yeah, not impressed.

    Wrong again bato. it was called the Carson Palmer Rule for reason. Other notable in the softening of the league, Indy with Polian and his insistence that PM’s wideouts cannot be touched.
    The only thing that changed because of Brady is that now the NFL is concerned with PSI during games. Oh, wait, no they’re not.

  67. gauchosporlife says:
    January 16, 2018 at 3:08 pm
    Well, when the current rules make the defense play with one arm behind their backs because it’s the way the NFL is designed to help passing offenses…you’re going to pass a lot. The Patriots were only smarter than other teams in realizing that. Remember, the NFL also implemented rules where QBs are untouchable because of Brady. So yeah, not impressed.

    ———–

    The change that led to all the passing came mid 2000s. It’s because the safeties and LBs can’t come across the middle and kill receivers anymore. Guys like Wes Welker didn’t exist before because they would be dead. Exploiting the middle of the field the way it is currently is a big change. QBs definitely still get Sacked. That hasn’t changed much actually. They just don’t get knocked out of the game as often, which is bad for the NFL. Guys like Brady spanned the two Eras. In 2002 he led the league with 28 TDs and a good passer rating used to be in the 90s. Now it has gone insane.

    One interesting thing is to look at Rodgers vs Brady since Rodgers began to start games. They have eerily similar stats. Brady’s work from 2001-2006 when he won’ 3 Super Bowls actually bring down his stats.

  68. limakey says:
    January 16, 2018 at 2:05 pm
    Tom Brady cheats to win, period. End of story.

    ————

    The end of the story was 3 years and 2 Super Bowl wins ago.

  69. Ultraviolet Thunder says:
    January 16, 2018 at 11:40 am
    Why is this a story NOW?

    It is a clearly STATED FACT from the Cheaters’ coach that “it is not our job to stop scoring; it is yours to stop us” – so this ‘revelation’ here isn’t revealing at all – historically the Cheaters have run up scores (which pads stats).
    ————————————–
    Pad stats? Run up scores? BB uses games in which the Pats have a big lead as an extension of practices. Since the league limits practice time BB will use these games to try new formations and defensive schemes while giving other players playing time, except the QB, like RB Brandon Bolden in the Titans game. Plus never letting up on both sides of the ball reduces bad habits that the players may develop in these blowouts. You’ll never see the Pats give up a 21-3 halftime lead very often.

  70. idislikespeciousness says:
    January 16, 2018 at 11:38 am
    The one issue a person could have with this assessment is that New England trailed in every single one of the games Brady threw 50 or passes in, including last weekend, and the 19 wins include 10 – 4th quarter game winning drives.
    —————————————
    Last weekend the Titans were leading 7-0 in the 1st quarter! Being down 7-0 at the start of the game is not the same as coming from behind late 4th qtr down 2 or more TD’s.

  71. idislikespeciousness says:
    January 16, 2018 at 11:38 am
    The one issue a person could have with this assessment is that New England trailed in every single one of the games Brady threw 50 or passes in, including last weekend, and the 19 wins include 10 – 4th quarter game winning drives.
    ______________________________________

    That’s the point – the pass play is far more taxing on a defense than running. As the game progresses Brady exploits the other teams fading ability to keep up. The SB against the Falcons is a prime example.

  72. Remember when people seriously thought Peyton Manning was better than Brady? What a weird, wild time to be alive.

  73. Having excellent slot receivers and using them well is a big part of the Pats gameplan. Welker and Edelman were/are two of the very best of this generation. Crazy to think though, how much better the Pats offense could be if Edelman was healthy this year.

  74. Remember, the NFL also implemented rules where QBs are untouchable because of Brady. So yeah, not impressed.

    __________________________________________________________________________________________

    Pretty sure that started with Carson Palmer when his knee got blown out in the playoffs against the Steelers. As far as the NFL becoming a passing league, the Colts are to thank for that after all their whining about the Patriot db’s man-handling their receivers so much Manning couldn’t complete 100% of his passes.

    So I guess the Pats are responsible, sort of.

  75. LSUStrong says:
    January 16, 2018 at 4:12 pm
    Thanks Lemmy. Now I have a craving to eat a peanut butter cup.

    you’re welcome. I intended it as a tasty comparison 🙂

  76. idislikespeciousness says:
    January 16, 2018 at 11:38 am
    The one issue a person could have with this assessment is that New England trailed in every single one of the games Brady threw 50 or passes in, including last weekend, and the 19 wins include 10 – 4th quarter game winning drives.

    —–

    Not sure how much of an issue that is.

  77. nhpats says:
    January 16, 2018 at 2:34 pm
    dwoofer says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:34 pm
    Brady is basically a chicken
    Throws 5-yard passes to avoid sacks
    His passing yardage totals should always be divided by 5
    Most boring offense and QB in the league

    ———-

    Boring? Putting up 30+ points per game and winning never get boring son…. Losing game after game and year after year….that is boring. And this Pats’ fan remembers it well.

    Preach, until folks remember, we once had Hugh Millen as a starting QB. How about the Joe Kapp, Mike Talliaferro days? Heck there’s a 13 year playoff gap that spanned Parilli to Grogan. Until 1994 in 11 playoff appearances the Pats won 5 games and 3 of those were during the 85 SB year.

  78. First off this is an amazing stat!

    I think some of this is the evolution of the game. It makes no sense to run a 225lb RB into a wall of stout defensive linemen and linebackers like coaches have preached and done for decades, the idea is to get quick, shifty guys into space where they can win one-on-one matchups with guys their size, maybe break a few tackles and gain extra yardage in the process. Extended hand off? sure, it’s a sound strategy that has evolved from the Bill Walsh 49ers starting in 1979. Belichick, McDaniels, and Brady have simply taken it to an art form, what they do is more advanced than anyone else, ahead of the curve as always.

    In case anyone noticed, the Pats had 31 pass attempts at the half Saturday night vs. Tennesse with a 21-7 lead.

  79. Ultraviolet Thunder says:
    January 16, 2018 at 11:40 am
    Why is this a story NOW?

    It is a clearly STATED FACT from the Cheaters’ coach that “it is not our job to stop scoring; it is yours to stop us” – so this ‘revelation’ here isn’t revealing at all – historically the Cheaters have run up scores (which pads stats).

    The last game in the playoffs against the Titans was a case where the Cheaters exploited the weakness and eschewed going to the strength. The Titans have a decent rush defense so Tomasina Brady passed repeatedly to go measure.

    It is so disgusting that an article like this is even “news” – what a joke.

    9 322 Rate This

    —–

    I really enjoyed the article.

  80. Not sure how much of an issue that is.
    ____

    Perhaps I was unclear by using assessment instead or article or writer. The issue is that the writer seems to believe the Patriots throw the ball 50+ times as a strategy to win. My only issue is that the team trailed in every game Brady threw 50+ passes and they trailed in the second half in the vast majority. They throw 50+ times in order to catch up and win, like every other team. They just have a QB that does it better than any QB ever has. My point concerns the basis of the article, not Brady or Belichick.

  81. “QBs definitely still get Sacked. That hasn’t changed much actually. They just don’t get knocked out of the game as often, which is bad for the NFL.”

    Say what? Exactly how are starting QBs getting knocked out “good for the NFL”? We saw quite a few go down this year and it was horrible for the overall quality of play throughout the league.

  82. I think a lot of folks misunderstood my initial post to this article. my bad, I should have been a bit more clear. Oh well. My issue was with the writer, not the GOAT or the coach.

  83. Last weekend the Titans were leading 7-0 in the 1st quarter! Being down 7-0 at the start of the game is not the same as coming from behind late 4th qtr down 2 or more TD’s.
    ______
    This game was an outlier. In the 28 games Brady has thrown 50+ passes there are only four where the Pats didn’t trail in the second half. These four games are also the only four the Pats won by more than 7 points. The majority are come from behind efforts where the team trailed by more than one, two or three scores.

  84. The only thing that changed because of Brady is that now the NFL is concerned with PSI during games. Oh, wait, no they’re not.
    ——
    Ding ding ding! Winner!

    🙂

  85. The other reason Brady is successful at this stat, where others aren’t is that Brady is given the freedom to improvise and call plays from scrimmage where other usually don’t due to inexperience, lack of ability or over complicated coaches. Brady is the system in NE, they build that team around his ability to dissect defenses. Situational football is the name of the game.

  86. idislikespeciousness says:
    January 16, 2018 at 5:20 pm
    Not sure how much of an issue that is.
    ____

    Perhaps I was unclear by using assessment instead or article or writer. The issue is that the writer seems to believe the Patriots throw the ball 50+ times as a strategy to win. My only issue is that the team trailed in every game Brady threw 50+ passes and they trailed in the second half in the vast majority. They throw 50+ times in order to catch up and win, like every other team. They just have a QB that does it better than any QB ever has. My point concerns the basis of the article, not Brady or Belichick.

    _____________________________________

    The basis of the article was that they win games throwing 50+ times while other teams lose.

  87. C’mon, it’s a dink ‘n dunk offense. Brady isn’t Dan Marino, who had a REAL arm. BB uses receivers with quickness, not speed, to run 7 yard routes that a lot of DB’s have trouble with. Lewis’ speed and craft as a runner is actually what created the SB comeback. Although, the got the greatest help from Atlanta’s failure not to kick a FG to make it a 2 score game near the end of the game. Those 3 points would have sealed it for Atlanta…that and RUNNING the ball.

  88. skawh says:
    January 16, 2018 at 7:02 pm
    C’mon, it’s a dink ‘n dunk offense. Brady isn’t Dan Marino, who had a REAL arm. BB uses receivers with quickness, not speed, to run 7 yard routes that a lot of DB’s have trouble with. Lewis’ speed and craft as a runner is actually what created the SB comeback. Although, the got the greatest help from Atlanta’s failure not to kick a FG to make it a 2 score game near the end of the game. Those 3 points would have sealed it for Atlanta…that and RUNNING the ball.

    _______________________________

    Yards per attempt between Brady and Marino is almost identical.

  89. ….just like the “help” he got throwing for almost 500 yards in the greatest comeback in Super Bowl history? His 5th by the way??

    That Tom Brady sure is lucky.

  90. limakey says:
    January 16, 2018 at 2:05 pm

    Tom Brady cheats to win, period. End of story.

    ——————————————————-
    And dimwits everywhere will agree with you. End of story.

  91. .
    because brady knows there is a 100% chance he will get a penalty in his favor when the game is on the line.

    The giants sacked him before he could try this against them, 18-1…

  92. bspurloc says:
    January 16, 2018 at 7:52 pm
    .
    because brady knows there is a 100% chance he will get a penalty in his favor when the game is on the line.

    The giants sacked him before he could try this against them, 18-1…
    —-
    How are the Giants doing these days anyway? I wouldn’t know. I don’t pay attention to the dregs and losers of the NFL.

  93. skawh says:
    January 16, 2018 at 7:02 pm
    C’mon, it’s a dink ‘n dunk offense.
    —-
    Which is precisely the kind of offense that will and did neuter the Legion of Boom. You remember that right? 🙂

    Seems kind of silly to write off an offense that pretty much ended your team’s run as an elite team in this league.

  94. skawh says:

    January 16, 2018 at 7:02 pm

    C’mon, it’s a dink ‘n dunk offense. Brady isn’t Dan Marino, who had a REAL arm. BB uses receivers with quickness, not speed, to run 7 yard routes that a lot of DB’s have trouble with. Lewis’ speed and craft as a runner is actually what created the SB comeback. Although, the got the greatest help from Atlanta’s failure not to kick a FG to make it a 2 score game near the end of the game. Those 3 points would have sealed it for Atlanta…that and RUNNING the ball
    ——————————————————————————————————————–Actually Lewis had 27 yards on six carries and two yards on one pass. Yup that sure is what did it in coming back from 25 points down.

  95. tedy54 says:

    January 16, 2018 at 4:32 pm

    Remember, the NFL also implemented rules where QBs are untouchable because of Brady. So yeah, not impressed.
    ——————————————————————————————————————–

    Here is the true genesis of the rule per Wikipedia
    :On January 8, 2006, the Bengals met their division rival Pittsburgh in the first round of the AFC playoffs at Paul Brown Stadium in Cincinnati.

    On the Bengals’ first pass play, Carson Palmer threw a 66-yard pass to rookie receiver Chris Henry. It was the longest completion in Bengals playoff history. After Palmer released the pass, Steelers defensive tackle Kimo von Oelhoffen fell to the ground and wrapped up Palmers leg to bring him down which resulted in a bad injury. Von Oelhoffen later publicly apologized. A magnetic resonance imaging test revealed a severe knee injury, thought to be career-threatening at the time; Palmer had tears of both the anterior cruciate and medial collateral ligaments as well as cartilage and meniscus damage. Coincidentally, Henry himself suffered a knee injury on the same play, though far less severe. With Palmer out of the game, the Steelers went on to win 31–17 en route to their Super Bowl XL victory over the Seattle Seahawks.[49]

    During the off-season, the league’s Rules Committee modified the rule regarding low hits on quarterbacks. The so-called “Carson Palmer Rule” which resulted requires that defenders take every opportunity to avoid hitting a quarterback at or below the knees when the quarterback is in a defenseless position looking to throw with both feet on the ground, unless they are blocked into him.[50]

    The Brady hit in 2008 was three years after this

  96. skawh says:
    January 16, 2018 at 7:02 pm
    C’mon, it’s a dink ‘n dunk offense. Brady isn’t Dan Marino, who had a REAL arm. BB uses receivers with quickness, not speed, to run 7 yard routes that a lot of DB’s have trouble with. Lewis’ speed and craft as a runner is actually what created the SB comeback. Although, the got the greatest help from Atlanta’s failure not to kick a FG to make it a 2 score game near the end of the game. Those 3 points would have sealed it for Atlanta…that and RUNNING the ball.

    ========================

    Too bad Brady was 2nd in the NFL last year in YPA and was 5th this year. So much for “dink and dunk”. And this was without his most reliable receiver and his best deep threat from last year. Too bad.

  97. tedy54 says:

    January 16, 2018 at 4:32 pm

    Remember, the NFL also implemented rules where QBs are untouchable because of Brady. So yeah, not impressed.

    =================================

    Don’t forget that receivers are untouchable because of Colts owner Jim Irsay’s whining about Peyton’s throwing targets. Brady didn’t make the rule.

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