Source: Some Steelers limited partners want a coaching change

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Plenty of Steelers fans currently are upset with the performance of coach Mike Tomlin, given the team’s inability to get back to the Super Bowl or, more specifically, to get past the Patriots. (And now the Jaguars.) A small group of Steelers fans who own pieces of the franchise’s equity are particularly miffed with Tomlin — sufficiently miffed that they want to see a change get made.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, some of the team’s limited partners intend to lobby owner Art Rooney to fire of Tomlin and to hire a new coach.

The limited partners, who became involved nearly a decade ago as member of the Rooney family sold their interest in the team after acquiring gaming interests that violate league policy, have no authority over the management of the team, but they have a pipeline to owner Art Rooney. Per the source, they plan to utilize it.

The full group of Steelers’ limited partners includes Rob Citrone, Paul Evanson, Larry Paul, Stephen Paul, Bruce Rauner, Paul Sams, John Stallworh, Benjamin Statler, Scott Swank, David Tepper, Thomas Tull, Peter Varischetti, and Mike Wilkins.

The concerns relate to the increasingly obvious issues with decision-making in key moments of the game, also known as “situational football.” The absence of a plan in the final seconds of the loss last month to the Patriots was one thing; the frittering away of the final 47 seconds on Sunday against the Jaguars, when Pittsburgh was five yards from the end zone and down 10 points, only made it worse. (The source specifically pointed to those key 47 seconds, noting that the players were moving without any real sense of urgency as the clock was ticking and the Steelers needed two scores.)

The limited partners who will be pushing for a new coach also are concerned about the team’s lack of discipline, with last year’s Facebook Live fiasco from receiver Antonio Brown a prime example of it.

Tomlin drew criticism from many in November for talking openly about meeting the Patriots both in the regular season and in the playoffs, before Pittsburgh had even clinched a postseason berth. One of Tomlin’s key players, running back Le'Veon Bell, proclaimed via social media after New England beat Tennessee on Saturday night that the Steelers would have a pair of regular-season rematches in the playoffs — one against the Jaguars on Sunday and another against the Patriots the following Sunday.

Yes, Tomlin has won a Super Bowl and taken the team to another one. But the last appearance in the NFL title game came seven years ago; there’s currently a sense that the Steelers are underachieving under Tomlin. As one source observed, Pittsburgh would be undefeated if Bill Belichick were the coach, given the talent on the roster.

The Steelers have had only three coaches since 1969, with Chuck Noll yielding in 1992 to Bill Cowher, who resigned after the 2006 season. It’s believed by some that Art Rooney II preferred Russ Grimm as the replacement for Cowher, but that the late Dan Rooney wanted Tomlin.

Now that Art II is running the team, Art II can make the call on whether to change coaches. While it’s not believed he’ll give the limited partners’ plea any credence on its own, if Art II already is thinking about making a change, the coming effort by the limited partners to advocate for change could at least be a factor.

180 responses to “Source: Some Steelers limited partners want a coaching change

  1. Oh God Please let this come to pass.

    No one has done less with more than Tomlin and been able to keep their job.

  2. Sounds like these “partners” are seeing things clearly. But firing Tomlin is one thing…..replacing him is another. Do they have anyone in mind?

  3. myspaceyourface says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:00 pm
    Oh God Please let this come to pass.

    No one has done less with more than Tomlin and been able to keep their job.

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    *ahem* Marvin Lewis *ahem*

  4. God … if you really do exist … and you can hear me …. please, PLEASE let the Steelers fire Cheerleader Tomlin and hire Mike Munchak before sundown today.

    The Steelers were vastly overrated this season. Besides playing in a weak AFC North the Steelers had the luck of playing several 2nd or 3rd string quarterbacks and barely eking out wins in some cases. If Aaron Rodgers, Andrew Luck, Deshaun Watson, played, no blocked punt touchdown in the opener against the Browns, etc. the Steelers were more like a 9-7 or 8-8 or 7-9 team. Even if they had beaten the Jags they still would have gotten crushed by the Patriots this Sunday. Guaranteed.

    The Steelers will not sniff another Super Bowl until Cheerleader Tomlin is gone.

  5. Tomlin makes real weird choices. He operates like riverboat gambler. The 4th down calls and the decision to not kick the ball away are the big story now, but these odd calls have been going on for a few years now. With such great talent on the team, it would be so much better to just play the odds. Unless this style can change, the may need to find somebody else to take the team over the hump.

  6. Is Mike Tomlin a “player’s coach”? Rex Ryan was and we all saw what happened with that coaching format (the first year in Buffalo he ruins a #4 defense, the year after he is fired the Bills make the playoffs). You look at the success that Bill B and Tom C have had and have to wonder if being a player’s coach and a cheerleader will only get you so far.

  7. Off topic about the Steelers, but I watched the Buffalo Super Bowl against the Giants recently and Jim Kelly’s clock management on the final drive was worse than I have seen anything Mike Tomlin or Andy Reid ever do.

  8. Tomlin talks a great game but he put Haley and Butler in at OC and DC and neither have made a the team better. His ability to lead his team into a game against a lesser opponent and lose or barely escape it year after year proves to me something needs to change!

  9. ExitStrategy says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:05 pm
    myspaceyourface says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:00 pm
    Oh God Please let this come to pass.

    No one has done less with more than Tomlin and been able to keep their job.

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    *ahem* Marvin Lewis *ahem*

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    Marvin Lewis has a special category of disfunction….
    He’s on a whole other level. lol
    Besides I’m not sure the Bungles ever had a franchise QB with a top 5 O line, the best WR and RB in the league.

  10. ExitStrategy says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:05 pm
    myspaceyourface says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:00 pm
    Oh God Please let this come to pass.

    No one has done less with more than Tomlin and been able to keep their job.

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    *ahem* Marvin Lewis *ahem*

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    Ehh, Lewis has definitely done less, but he has less as well. That said, it’s comical that he’s kept his job as long as he has. Seriously… He’s like Jeff Fisher 1.675

  11. The Steelers under Tomlin have always been an undisciplined team full of freelancers. It all comes back to the coach and the culture he cultivates.

  12. “As one source observed, Pittsburgh would be undefeated if Bill Belichick were the coach, given the talent on the roster.”

    If Belichick were the coach that roster would look very different. Tomlin is not a great coach but the Steelers team building philosophy is geared towards assembling the best collection of individual athletes rather than building the best possible team. It’s yielded a team that requires so much ‘managing’ by the HC that coaching it is problematic at best.

  13. Bring in John Fox or Chuck Pagano to take his place. Better yet, give some draft picks to the Chiefs for Albert Einstein Reid.

    I think there is one great coach in this league-and then some good coaches-and then a lot of bad ones. Mike isn’t the great coach, but he is a good one. He made some mistakes with situational football (and I ripped into him and his idiot coordinators Sunday afternoon). Let him learn from his mistakes. If he has a great team and a big screw up next season-then look at making a change.

  14. Who are you gong to replace him with? In reality there are about 3 coaches that seem to be elite. Bellicheck – always takes away the other teams best weapon and forces them to rely on their weakness. McVay – turned the worst offense ever into the most prolific with a written off QB turned into a borderline pro bowler and taking a RB and turning him into an MVP candidate. Shanahan – everywhere he goes his offense has its best year ever. Matt Ryan goes from an MVP to average just by losing his coach. There are a lot of other good coaches, but none as detailed oriented, game plan elite with their strategy, and successful as these three. Maybe Sean Payton too.

  15. you guys hate tomlin, just come out and say it. he is one of the most winningest coaches in the history of the league. and has a super bowl ring, “but yea it was with cowhers players” so was gruden and look at him now. I bet any team would love to have tomlim, im damn sure my Niners would love the success the steelers have had. Browns would damn sure love to have him. quit being “closet” type people the world is changing, get on board or go pound sand.

  16. Tomlin – has done nothing to warrant being the Steelers head coach going forward. The team has stagnated and needs to get a fresh start with a new head coach.

  17. steelers are overrated every year and in a sense that makes tomlin look like a bad coach. what does the rooney rule say about firing minority coaches???

  18. Tomlin did inherit a young hall of fame QB and a defense with some HOFers as well. Not many coaches start with that.

  19. Steelers: fun to watch but can’t get it done.

    Talent’s half the equation, the other is leadership.

    They have more than enough talent.

  20. myspaceyourface says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:00 pm
    Oh God Please let this come to pass.

    No one has done less with more than Tomlin and been able to keep their job

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    You ever hear of this guy named Marvin Lewis??

  21. “No one has done less with more than Tomlin and been able to keep their job.
    *ahem* Marvin Lewis *ahem*”

    Jeff Fisher comes to mind too. Look what the Rams did this year the moment Fisher was gone.

  22. You guys don’t get it , the steelers brass picks the players with little input from the coach! Blame ownership for having a defense that can’t stop anyone ! With or without shazier! Yea Tomlinson ain’t the best but Belichic couldn’t do anything with that defense, let alone Munchek

  23. Who do they have in mind to replace him is the ultimate question. We as fans never know what’s really going on behind the scenes with these teams,how much control Tomlin has in decision making we will never know. For me its a matter of who’s calling the plays. Tomlin Haley or the DC. There is where the problem lies.You got the best running back in the game,and you open up with 3 empty backfields trying to throw the ball into a,20 mph wind? Who has control of they play calling should be looked.at very hard.

  24. Tomlin seems like a good motivator. Unfortunately, his players have mirrored his intensity in bad ways. I have seen Tomlin berate opposing players after the game, so no surprise that his players are notorious for helmet-to-helmet hits.

  25. ESPN is reporting that unnamed sources close to both teams are saying that Belichick is going to Pittsburgh.

  26. With all the weapons on the Steelers and a future HOF QB.

    Mike Tomlin has missed the playoffs FOUR times

    Mike Tomlin has been One and Done in the Playoffs FOUR times….

    Total under achiever

  27. It is the same situation as the Packers, except GB beat the Steelers for the SB. MM has also made some bad play calls in GB over the years.

  28. Be careful what you wish for. Very few coaches are excellent at all phases of the job. The Steelers have had enough success to know that Tomlin is pretty good at some things. The game management part is easy to see but probably isn’t as important as the behind-the-scenes stuff that goes on all week, during the offseason, and during training camp. I’m not saying they can’t find somebody better than Tomlin but it’s a risk.

  29. As a Patriots fan, it’s comforting to know that Tomlin is facing Belichick. That team has as much talent as the Patriots, but they are not a better team, not even close.

  30. Wow. As a Browns fan I’ll always hate the Steelers but you guys are crazy if you want to blame your coach. Your quarterback is overrated but you guys act like he’s better than Brady. Plus your coach has never had a losing season. Let me say that slowly since you guys are Steeler fans: NEVER HAD A LOSING SEASON. But hey get rid of the coach and you guys will all the super bowls forever. Stupid.

  31. Team is obviously undisciplined, but how do we know Tomlin isn’t getting support from management to come down on Brown, Bell and others? With guys that talented, it gets dicey.

    This is where the Patriots Way really shines. By all accounts, Brady gets roasted by Belichick just like any other guy. When the top dog gets put in his place, you know everyone else will fall in line. That’s not happening in Pitt. Question that no one here knows is why that is.

  32. burtmustin says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:20 pm
    Bring in John Fox or Chuck Pagano to take his place. Better yet, give some draft picks to the Chiefs for Albert Einstein Reid.

    I think there is one great coach in this league-and then some good coaches-and then a lot of bad ones. Mike isn’t the great coach, but he is a good one. He made some mistakes with situational football (and I ripped into him and his idiot coordinators Sunday afternoon). Let him learn from his mistakes. If he has a great team and a big screw up next season-then look at making a change.
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    Here is the problem. The bar is set. He’s a cheerleader. Now, if he were to all of a sudden step up as a real coach it will be very hard to raise that bar up. The players won’t take him seriously and may even resent him which causes a lot of other issues. He won’t all of a sudden foster a disciplined team. That will never happen even if he wants too. The only way that can happen is if a real coach came in.

  33. myspaceyourface says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:00 pm
    Oh God Please let this come to pass.

    No one has done less with more than Tomlin and been able to keep their job

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    Mike Mccarthy

  34. If ive learned anything watching football, is that you dont make any move to hurt the team until you have a plan B in place.

    Steelers fans, if you fire Tomlin, who is the coach you are hiring tomorrow to fix everything and instantly improve the team? Just remember, for every Bill Belichick, Pete Carroll, and Harbough brother, there are about 20 Tom Cables, Eric Manginis, Dick Jaurons, Romeo Crenells and Hue Jacksons.

    Pittsburgh has pulled the lever 3 times in franchise history and won arguably 3 jackpots…do you want to pull that lever again?

    -Bills fans

  35. I do understand it’s hard to fire a coach who just came off a 13-3 season. With that being said, Mike T has has had tons of questionable decisions over the course of his career. I don’t believe Mr Rooney would cut ties but whatever decision is made I support. Besides coaching, obviously the defense is still not their and the Steelers need to continue to get faster and better in this area.

  36. One one hand, he has the following accomplishments:

    1 SB championship
    2 AFC championship
    Zero Non-Winning Seasons
    2nd in Win Pct among all active coaches, 15th among all-time coaches. Only Belichick and Harbaugh are higher among living coaches who might actually wear a headset in the NFL again.

    On the other hand, you have the 2-4 record in the last 6 playoff games, the tripping incident, the crappy team discipline and terrible game management. Plus he has some of the best talent in the league at QB, RB, and WR the last couple of seasons and no titles to show for it.

    Sometimes you just have to make a change despite a winning record. The Steelers need to have a great replacement in mind, though. Can’t do what the Yucks did years ago when they fired Gruden just to replace him with Raheem Morris.

  37. IMO – I think Tomlin is the right guy for that team but he needs an assistant standing next to him to help him with situational football, clock management etc. Crunch time game management isn’t easy at all. So much data to take in. There is nothing wrong with him coming out and saying he needs help in that dept.

    Haley on the other hand, needs to just go to the bar

  38. Did someone just put McVay and Shanahan on the same tier as Belichick? Seriously? Let’s see them produce a decade of sustained excellence before we start talking about them in the same sentence as the GOAT.

    Speaking of the Pats, we have seen numerous teams go into full meltdown after an ugly loss to the Pats, but this might be the first time they managed to cause a team to implode without even having to play them.

    It won’t be the same without ol’ Trip Tomlin on the sideline cheering them on, but I would be intrigued to see what they could accomplish under an actual tactician-type coach.

  39. Tomlin is openly arrogant and it rubs off on the team. They then feel empowered to be openly arrogant themselves. Football has a way of humbling the arrogant. Doesn’t help that their key offensive players are extremely selfish, me first players in Brown, Bell and Ben. All great players but there is a way to be great yet carry yourself in a professional way and none of them do that. With that sort of environment, its bound to get worse before it gets better.

  40. And who exactly will they hire that would be a better fit? I agree that he’s overrated but at this point there is all of the good candidates have either been hired or there is an offer in place as soon as their season ends.

  41. Was it one of the owners that made the remark about Belichick going undefeated with the Steelers roster? That’s ice cold.

  42. Tomlin runs a loose organization, which is why the Steelers underperform every year. I’ve never seen a roster with so much talent fall short so often. Since he’s a “players coach” they have way too much leeway, which leads to the distractions/antics like AB’s FB live embarrassment from last season and the JuJu suspension this season. The locker room needs a new voice of they want to win.

  43. Sure — go fire Tomlin. When his replacement winds up being a Ben McAdoo or a Rich Kotite and you waste the remainder of Roethlisberger’s career, you’ll know who to blame. At least then the team will be so bad that they’ll draft high enough to get Ben’s replacement.

    Also, enough with the “Tomlin sucks because he’s not Belichick” whining. No other coach in the NFL is anywhere near Belichick’s level. If the Steelers ever do fire Tomlin, whoever they replace him with is not going to be on Belichick’s level, either.

  44. maddmatter5 says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:04 pm
    7 years without a super bowl? Cry me a fricken river- Signed
    Lions & Browns fans
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    Yes, but the expectations for those 2 teams are always very low.

  45. Tomlin is terrific. Look with 32 teams and ‘parody’ he’s done a spectacular job with the Steelers always in contention. I do think they should look at the defensive coordinator. They simply didn’t ‘show up’ against a questionable offense in Jacksonville. Mentally, the defense acted like the game would be a walk away. It wasn’t and never is.

  46. Good idea. Fire Tomlin and replace him with a coach that enjoys getting trashed in the media every time Sad Ben blows a big game. I’m sure they’ll be lining up to take that abuse. One thing about the Steelers. They never hesitate to turn on each other when the chips are down.

  47. bigbeniswack says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:38 pm

    Wow. As a Browns fan I’ll always hate the Steelers but you guys are crazy if you want to blame your coach. Your quarterback is overrated but you guys act like he’s better than Brady. Plus your coach has never had a losing season. Let me say that slowly since you guys are Steeler fans: NEVER HAD A LOSING SEASON. But hey get rid of the coach and you guys will all the super bowls forever. Stupid

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    Ben overrated LOL, the last thing we need is opinions and advice from the Browns and their fans.

  48. What a shock that a minority would have a short leash and one loss would make ownership change coaches. He won a Super Bowl for them, and they could not care less, and are ready to throw him out on the street. White Super Bowl winning coaches are never treated like that. I will never respect the Steelers if they fire Tomlin after all he is done for them.

  49. But, wait! What about the Rooney Rule and how it works backwards, allowing god awful coaches to remain on board for far too long, almost like they’re in fear of how it might look.

    “Optics”

    Goodell…….

    Ugh.

  50. I think last Sunday’s debacle was arguably one of the worst coaching jobs I’ve seen, from game planning, to in game strategy, to clock management, to lack of discipline. Honestly, it looked like a Rex Ryan coached team out there.

  51. pastabelly says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:38 pm
    As a Patriots fan, it’s comforting to know that Tomlin is facing Belichick. That team has as much talent as the Patriots, but they are not a better team, not even close.

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    This isn’t true. Offensively, sure. But, defensively? NE’s LBs and secondary blow Pitt’s out of the water.

    Van Noy would be Pitt’s best :B right now. Heck, Marquis Flowers is better than Bud Dupree and BB acquired him for a 7th in Sept.

    Much of it has to do with laziness from Tomlin, arrogance and belligerence to think that they can rely on an outdated system, where this tough guy Pittsburgh mentality will somehow magically surge past BB”s brilliance in terms of knowing a chameleonesque offense and defense, tied to IQ and versatility, is the key.

    Pittsburgh still thinks it’s 1978.

    It’s hilarious.

  52. The rest of the AFC North would like to strongly support the Steelers new “fire a coach due to a post playoff game temper tantrum” mindset. We see how the other teams in the NFC east did after the Giants did that to Coughlin, the NFC West after the 49ers did it to Harbaugh and the AFC West when the Chargers did that to Schottenheimer and the other three teams in the AFC North would appreciate the immediate boost in status because you think bad coaching somehow got you to the playoffs consistently.

  53. Someone want to explain to Haley that you should run the ball and 4th and short? If you’re in the NFL and can’t make it running the ball on 4th in one, you have poor personnel.

  54. Anything I ever needed to know about Tomlin I learned one night while watching the Steelers play and watched this guy intentionally drift onto the field to block a kick returner for the opposing team. Even watched himself on the big screen to make certain he was getting into his path. What a scumbag

  55. ctiggs says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:21 pm

    you guys hate tomlin, just come out and say it. quit being “closet” type people the world is changing, get on board or go pound sand.
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    It “sounds like” you’re playing the race card without wanting to “just come out and say it”. Pot, meet kettle.

    In any case, I was all for having Tomlin as the coach. Especially after winning the SB. Since then, it’s been year after year of playing down to the competition. I get that they’re still technically winning. But with this much talent on the roster, we should be winning the SB every year the Patriots don’t. This has nothing to do with the color of his skin, btw. I lobbied year after year saying, just give him another year – he’ll get it sorted out. Well, to this point he hasn’t.

  56. Since this is the month to talk about Bill Belichick relocating, here is the flaw in the idea that the Steelers would go undefeated under his coaching. Yes, the Steelers have a lot of talented players , but Belichick has always insisted on COACHABLE players. In his system Coachability is a skill set, requiring football IQ, flexibility, a willingness to work within the scheme and being a good teammate. I wonder how many of Pittsburgh’s talented athletes could fit Bill’s requirements. At various points the killer B’s, including Bryant, Pouncey, Dupree, Mitchell, Burns, have done and said questionable things that woukdnt fly under Bill. Clearly, we like Bill just where he is and look forward to a championship effort against The Jags. While ZJalen Ramsey might be on to the Super Nowl, we are just onto Jacksonville…

  57. The natural reaction of 90% of the people on this site is “that guy sucks” or “get rid of him” – without truly understanding how football, or organizations work. It is easy to cast aspersions from an armchair. It’s a lot harder to run a football team.

    Tomlin has made a bevy of mistakes. But his success as a coach would make most teams want him in a hot second. Fix the problems – which doesn’t always mean firing someone. The Steelers are who they are because they’ve had, what…4 coaches since the merger or something insane like that?

  58. The reality is this. The average fan has a totally different prism that they look at “certain” players with. For Example, Cam Newton is perceived a certain way by many of you, while you make exceptions for Brady. Brady berates and disrespects his coach on the sideline and says “F You” to him on national TV, but you say he’s just competitive. Cam doesn’t get that benefit of the doubt!

    Tomlin has averaged TEN WINS PER YEAR OVER 10 YEARS. HE ALSO WON A SUPER BOWL!!! Who else has done that other than BB? No one! So obviously many of you will want to see him fail while you continue to make excuses for other peoples actions. Its very similar to you all making excuses for another person in a position of prominence, the POTUS. However, You don’t realize that its more indicative of who YOU are than who THEY are! #Truth

  59. In loss to Pats, screaming of inferior coaching culture was that as the replay was being reviewed the qb was not involved in any strategy planning/discussions. Instead he was standing with all else on the sidelines looking at the Jumbotron replays.

    May not seem like much, but this would not happen on a well-coached team.

  60. The Patriots had nothing to do with the Steeler’s getting bounced from the playoffs. They lost a regular season game at home to the Patriots, but this was a playoff game at home. It’s not like losing to the Patriots put the Steelers on the road for this game. The obsession with the Patriots continues to fester. “Fester” is a verb. It’s what happens to a wound or sore that gets worse and has liquid or pus oozing out. Dead bodies fester. It’s like compounding interest. It slowly does the work for you. Gotta love it. Personally I have nothing to add…no advice….nothing to offer… I prefer to watch….

    By the way, the Steelers probably should have handled things differently, but the bottom line is they got beat by the same team twice, at home, and the games weren’t really that close. That team happens to be playing a good game of elimination football, and the Steelers were the second victim. We’ve seen average looking teams that can run and play defense get on a roll before, with a little bit of steady QB play. The Patriots better have several good plans in place, great execution, great patience, and strap their helmets on if they don’t want to be squeezed and eliminated like Buffalo and the Steelers.

  61. Tomlin has shown that he is a pretty good, but not excellent, coach. If the goal is to win a lot of games every year, and then flame-out frequently in the playoffs, then Tomlin is your guy. But if you want to win championships, then Tomlin has some flaws that cause under-performance with all that talent on the roster.

    So, maybe the Steelers should consider a change…. The problem is that there isn’t anyone better out there right now.

  62. I don’t give two craps about Tomlin’s regular season record. If you can’t get it done in the playoffs, multiple years in a row, you need crap canned. Maybe for fans of teams that are used to losing seasons, “winning in the regular season” is satisfactory, for others, it’s not. How many times has Bill Belichick dropped the proverbial ball in the playoffs…not many? How many bonehead calls has he made…very few to none? How many times has he put his team in a position to lose the game instead of win…zero? The list goes on and on…

  63. sammievee says:
    January 16, 2018 at 1:36 pm
    In loss to Pats, screaming of inferior coaching culture was that as the replay was being reviewed the qb was not involved in any strategy planning/discussions. Instead he was standing with all else on the sidelines looking at the Jumbotron replays.

    May not seem like much, but this would not happen on a well-coached team.

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    About sums it up.

    Pittsburgh is notoriously arrogant, thinking their dung doesn’t stink, when it has for years.

  64. After a while, some players become “tone deaf” to coach speak. He is a decent coach, but no accountability anywhere. Bell can’t shut up, Roethlisberger is Favre 2.0 (with the retirement musings), and the defense got their rear end handed to them. Rooney will have some decisions to make in the next few years and if you look past the overall coaching record, Tomlin has underachieved more often than not with the teams he’s had.

  65. candrwells says:
    January 16, 2018 at 1:33 pm
    ctiggs says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:21 pm

    you guys hate tomlin, just come out and say it. quit being “closet” type people the world is changing, get on board or go pound sand.
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    It “sounds like” you’re playing the race card without wanting to “just come out and say it”. Pot, meet kettle.

    In any case, I was all for having Tomlin as the coach. Especially after winning the SB. Since then, it’s been year after year of playing down to the competition. I get that they’re still technically winning. But with this much talent on the roster, we should be winning the SB every year the Patriots don’t. This has nothing to do with the color of his skin, btw. I lobbied year after year saying, just give him another year – he’ll get it sorted out. Well, to this point he hasn’t.

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    Your defensive talent sucks overall, though. Colbert has only hit on offensive talent like Ted Thompson has, because of the reliance of the HOF QB.

    You all overrate your defensive “talent”. Bud Dupree is an outright 1st rd bust. Heyward and Tuitt are both very good, but they’re not elite.

    TJ Watt gets swallpwed up by LTs and is trending into a disappointment level if all he is doing is pinning his ears back trying to collect sacks. It’s too easy to dictate to, which is why I am typing this right now.

    Your D was giving up 30 points per game for the last 2 months!

    Butler sucks as the coordinator and the fact Tomlin is a defensive guy and still sucks, means he sucks.

    Get it?

  66. Look. Belichick has done more with less. Yea He has Brady. But the question is, is Tom that talented of Belichick the reason the Pat’s have been this good this long?
    If Belichick had the talent the Steelers have how many Super Bowl wins would he have?

    You can get 10 + wins a year with talent. But to win in the Post season takes good coaching.
    Something the Steelers seem to lack.

  67. I think it would be a grave error to dismiss a coach who has the second best record against teams with a winning record since 2007.

    People make mistakes when they assess coaches (or players) in a vacuum. It seems like Tomlin is underperforming when you simply list his errors. When one compares the errors of all coaches Tomlin would not be close to the liability he is being painted as these days.

    Go ahead Pittsburgh, let him go. I think he’d be a great DC to replace Matt Patricia up here in NE. The chances of that are slim because he would be hired in a millisecond as a HC of some other team.

  68. Mr. Rooney, please consider making a phone call to Nick Saban. It’s near his hometown and he would be the perfect disciplinarian for the team. And it would be the perfect NFL situation for Saban to have glory in the NFL after his failure in Miami.

  69. If you think talent always equals wins, just look at last years Jaguar team? They added maybe 3 new pieces and a coach. Bottom line is, you still have to coach the players. Tomlin wining 10 games a year on average is by no accident!!!

  70. The Patriots had nothing to do with the Steeler’s getting bounced from the playoffs. They lost a regular season game at home to the Patriots, but this was a playoff game at home. It’s not like losing to the Patriots put the Steelers on the road for this game. The obsession with the Patriots continues to fester. “Fester” is a verb. It’s what happens to a wound or sore that gets worse and has liquid or pus oozing out. Dead bodies fester. It’s like compounding interest. It slowly does the work for you. Gotta love it. Personally I have nothing to add…no advice….nothing to offer… I prefer to watch….

    By the way, the Steelers probably should have handled things differently, but the bottom line is they got beat by the same team twice, at home, and the games weren’t really that close. That team happens to be playing a good game of elimination football, and the Steelers were the second victim. We’ve seen average looking teams that can run and play defense get on a roll before, with a little bit of steady QB play. The Patriots better have several good plans in place, great execution, great patience, and strap their helmets on if they don’t want to be squeezed and eliminated like Buffalo and the Steelers.

    —————
    The Steelers beat the Patriots just not the refs, namely Al Riveron who handed them several games on a silver platter. It’s pretty fishy that every play he reviewed was in the patriots favor….hmmm. Could he possibly have friends betting on the patriots? It is so funny to hear patriots fans always holier than thou when they were caught cheating how many times. They usually have refs on their side ex; Saturday night questionable calls against titans early taking away any momentum they might have had twice. The Steelers should have been the number one seed and been playing the titans not the jaguars anyway.

  71. I can’t imagine the LPs sustaining a political fight over the Steelers decision on retaining or firing a head coach. If they want that drama in their lives, invest in the Browns or, frankly half the other teams in the league.

    On the other hand, the Rooney’s have been well known for building real relationships with players on the team. If I had my wish, Art would have good long chats with some of the solid characters on the franchise, guys like David DeCastro, Cam Heyward and Alejandro Villanueva. And Ben.

    Losing stinks. In addition to the Steelers, I have been a Leafs fan my whole life. I know loser (and by the way, an exciting young hockey team there today). The Steelers lost a game they should have won; in a winner take all playoff format. That’s it.

    Move on.

  72. myvietnamwasfightingtheclap says:
    January 16, 2018 at 1:05 pm
    No way this happens. Still, this team lost because of Ben, not Mike.

    ——–

    Ben and the offense put up 42 points. That should be enough to win any game against any team….

  73. I’m not sure if he should be fired but he should be called on the carpet for some of the stuff that went on. His teams have no discipline and he doesn’t seem to care one bit about it. He’s as bad as Marvin Lewis about enabling his players’ behavior. It’s time he either put his foot down or get out. Looking forward to the Patriots and sleeping on the Jags was unthinkable. Some of his clock management failings have been rookie mistakes. Same with hindering Ben on offense. They should tell him if he doesn’t have a plan to fix those issues in 2018 then he might as well go clean out his office.

  74. Poor clock manager. Yes man. Poor staff. Fake tough guy attitude. He’s just an average to below average coach. Better suited as a coordinator.

  75. If Belichick coached the Steelers in the Cowher/Tomlin tenure(s) they would have won 4 or 5 SB’s.

    They are immensely talented on both offense and defense but each year seem to do less with more. Spare me any talk of injuries. Patriots win a SB without Gronkowski and could be on their way again without their 90 catch/1,000 yard receiver in Edelman and best defensive player in Hightower.

  76. Someone said it best.. Tomlin is the middle of the pack. But you gotta be prepared in the playoffs – not just “wing it”. The Jags played with confidence, but we know they were beatable. Tomlin barks a mean streak in interviews, but a lot of the performance falls on him. Probably time for a change. But keep Ben -he still has it.

  77. Fake news. Rich Eisen already debunked this nonsense with an actual chat with a Steeler minority owner. Check Florio’s Wikipedia page and see where he was born to see his allegiances. This guy once said he wouldn’t believe anything that came out of Ben Roethlisberger’s mouth. Ultimate Steeler hater who has put out gobs and gibs if fake Steeler takes. Mike Florio is a liar.

  78. As a Patriots fan, I’d like the Steelers to keep Tomlin until he retires.

    As a football fan, I am convinced Tomlin is wasting the Big Ben window and all that superior talent on both offense and defense.

    Tomlin got rid of Arians for Haley and Lebeau for Butler, both of these moves downgraded their coordinators and clock management is a joke.

    Tomlin cannot control the locker or focus the team before big games. Tomlin himself, Bell, Mitchell and others were looking past the Jaguars and provided unnecessary bulletin board material. This is on the head coach.

  79. “Tomlin is terrific. Look with 32 teams and ‘parody’ he’s done a spectacular job with the Steelers always in contention.”

    Good choice of words. Tomlin’s defense has been a “parody” for several years now.

  80. It’s about time that someone in ownership is finally paying attention. The Steelers have more player talent on that team than just about any other team in the entire NFL. Unfortunately, they also have one of the worst coaching staffs in the entire NFL. Fans have been complaining about Tomlin for years. He just seems to lack the football intellect and instincts to be a head coach in the NFL. Whenever he inserts himself into the process things usually go very wrong. If he had quality OC & DC he may be able to hide and survive as strictly a cheerleader kind of a coach. But, his OC & DC also stink. Haley has been handed the most talent of any OC in the entire NFL & he very clearly has no idea what to do with it. They struggled much of the year. Butler has single handedly converted the Defense from the Steel Curtain into the Silk Drapes. Even the lowly Browns walked all over them in the last regular season game – even when most of the defensive starters were in there. I would rate Belichick and his staff a ten – Tomlin and has staff a 2 or 3. It isn’t even remotely close and everybody knows it – APPARENTLY EXCEPT ROONEY. Frankly, it would be worse if he did know how bad that coaching staff is because then he would be intentionally putting an inferior product on the field – and that would be totally disrespectful to the fans who are supporting his family’s Franchise. .

  81. playedthegame32 says:
    The reality is this. The average fan has a totally different prism that they look at “certain” players with. For Example, Cam Newton is perceived a certain way by many of you, while you make exceptions for Brady. Brady berates and disrespects his coach on the sideline and says “F You” to him on national TV, but you say he’s just competitive. Cam doesn’t get that benefit of the doubt!
    ————-
    I havent seen a season where Brady was dancing all season long, only to run out on the superbowl post game press conference…. then come back days later with some lame excuse as to why he couldnt go down and pick up the football he fumbled.

  82. jstilich says:
    January 16, 2018 at 2:44 pm
    Fake news. Rich Eisen already debunked this nonsense with an actual chat with a Steeler minority owner. Check Florio’s Wikipedia page and see where he was born to see his allegiances. This guy once said he wouldn’t believe anything that came out of Ben Roethlisberger’s mouth. Ultimate Steeler hater who has put out gobs and gibs if fake Steeler takes. Mike Florio is a liar.

    ———–

    Phew…..as a Pats fan I was getting worried the Steelers might actually get rid of Mike and bring in a real coach.

  83. Over ten years he has 7 playoff appearances 8-6 record with a Super Bowl win and two conference championships. His team has never recorded a losing season (not even BB can claim that), he is number 15 all time and number 2 active coach by win percentage. He has the same SB record as his predecessor.

    Steelers fans have no idea how good they have it. He’s not the greatest coach ever, but he’s clearly number two in the league and you’re not likely to get a better coach.

  84. Mike Vrabel would become a Pittsburgh icon if hired by the Steelers. The guy is intense and would bring the disciplined Patriots Way to Pittsburgh. It’s what the team needs. Never, ever, ever would you have had incidents like Bell & Blount getting arrested for pot, coming onto the field to make contact with a player, AB Facebook Live broadcasting from the locker room, or crap in the media from Ben, Martavis, or anyone.

    He’d be a guy you could keep as HC for 25 years and one who would re-establish the Steelers as a blue-collar, put the ball down and play, respectable franchise…not the arrogant, loose, sloppy franchise they’ve become under Tomlin.

    If Vrabel ends up in Tennessee first, you still have Mike Munchak in-house.

  85. hbk314 says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:39 pm
    myspaceyourface says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:00 pm
    Oh God Please let this come to pass.

    No one has done less with more than Tomlin and been able to keep their job

    _____________________________

    Mike Mccarthy

    Not really – Tomlin has always had a defense.

  86. psteelfan1 says:
    January 16, 2018 at 2:17 pm
    ………….
    —————
    The Steelers beat the Patriots just not the refs, namely Al Riveron who handed them several games on a silver platter….
    ——————————————————-

    ^^^^^^^
    Looks like Tomlin is posting on this site under a pseudonym.
    Always an excuse for losing to the Pats.

    Of course, to be fair, Belichick and Pats fans also always have an excuse when the Pats lose. And our excuse is: “The {insert team name here} coached better and executed better. They were the better team on this day.”

  87. Can someone name an example of something specific that Tomlin has done that is an example of great coaching that made a difference in any game that ever mattered?

    The team succeeds every year, but I can’t for the life of me think of an example of something about that I can assign to Tomlin himself.

    With most great coaches, it’s easy. If I’m missing something with Tomlin, I’d like to know.

  88. Tomlin is a pretty good coach, he has produced pretty good results. So the question really is whether tne Steelers want to be a pretty good team. Because they are and Tomlin will keep them a pretty good team for as long as he is allowed. But will that be satisfactory? The frustration that always sets in is that this pretty good team keeps finishing second to a great team led by a great coach. And thats the difference. Finishing second is not bad at all, most of the league would be thrilled to finish second as often as the Steelers do. And hey, if that great team stumbles once in a great while being second means you are positioned to swoop in. But that does mean hoping they will stumble, because a very good team has no other way to get past a great one. But still as long as Pittsburgh can be happy with that, and it is pretty good, they are all set.

    But the path to being great has risk to it. You have to give up ‘pretty good’ and try something else. And there are no guarantees. That great team went through all kinds of dark times before finding a great coach to make them a great team. Their fans went through one heck of a rough ride getting there. So its not a straight forward choice. One has to decide if they have the stomach for that risk, and if they can ride through some tough seasons searching for greatness. It has to be thought about before just making a kneejerk choice out of immediate anger.

  89. The Steelers beat the Patriots just not the refs, namely Al Riveron who handed them several games on a silver platter. It’s pretty fishy that every play he reviewed was in the patriots favor….hmmm. Could he possibly have friends betting on the patriots? It is so funny to hear patriots fans always holier than thou when they were caught cheating how many times. They usually have refs on their side ex; Saturday night questionable calls against titans early taking away any momentum they might have had twice. The Steelers should have been the number one seed and been playing the titans not the jaguars anyway.

    ——-

    the ball hit the ground after it slipped from both hands. it really wasn’t that difficult a call to make. same call was made this weekend, but of course there was no outrage over that one.

  90. briang123 says:
    January 16, 2018 at 1:06 pm
    What a shock that a minority would have a short leash and one loss would make ownership change coaches. He won a Super Bowl for them, and they could not care less, and are ready to throw him out on the street. White Super Bowl winning coaches are never treated like that
    ——————-
    Landry, Coughlin, Gruden, Bilick, Shanahan,Ditka, J Johnson……
    And 11 years is not quite a short leash.
    There is enough racism out there for you not to have to make it up. It’s a disservice to your cause to blame every slight on racism.

  91. the ball hit the ground after it slipped from both hands. it really wasn’t that difficult a call to make. same call was made this weekend, but of course there was no outrage over that one.
    _________________________________________________________________________________
    Well that’s only because the number 1 seed wasn’t on the line and the entire seeding of who would play who in the afc playoffs. Other then that, wasn’t a big deal. Now making excuses for this weeks Steelers loss but in reality the jags would of played New England last week instead of the Steelers.

  92. It just hasn’t been the same for Tomlin and the Stoolers since my namesack Dr. Rydze was busted shipping HGH and Anabolic Steroids to the Team Facilities. No Championships since getting off the PED train.

  93. Briang123

    Umm excuse me?

    The giants were forcing Tom Coughlin out and he had 2 rings. Jon gruden wad fired and he won the only title in tampa bays history, 5-6 years after the title. Sean payton was in the hot seat beggining the year, he made the saints relevant.

  94. psteelfan1 says:
    January 16, 2018 at 2:17 pm

    The Steelers beat the Patriots just not the refs

    ——————-
    Just to keep this real, the Steelers neither beat nor were beat by the Patriots. Nor by the refs. They were beat by the Jaguars. Its kind of telling who rents just how much headspace and where when the response to being beaten by the Jaguars is outrage at the Patriots.

  95. Well that’s only because the number 1 seed wasn’t on the line and the entire seeding of who would play who in the afc playoffs. Other then that, wasn’t a big deal. Now making excuses for this weeks Steelers loss but in reality the jags would of played New England last week instead of the Steelers.

    —–

    actually, you are making excuses.

  96. kevpft says:
    January 16, 2018 at 3:10 pm
    Can someone name an example of something specific that Tomlin has done that is an example of great coaching that made a difference in any game that ever mattered?

    The team succeeds every year, but I can’t for the life of me think of an example of something about that I can assign to Tomlin himself.

    With most great coaches, it’s easy. If I’m missing something with Tomlin, I’d like to know.
    ———————————————-
    How about going 13-3 with that crappy defense???

  97. Hard to believe this story to have any credidrece, but a new coaching staff from top to bottom is needed! New blood and better decision making would help the team

  98. Love when people compare Tomlin (or anyone) to Belichick. If that’s the standard, and everyone must meet/surpass the standard, then 30 coaches should be fired every year.

    Putting it in perspective…

    When Belichick was Tomlin’s age, he was flaming out in Cleveland.

  99. Every time I see that ad for the NFL Ticket Exchange where they show the immaculate extension play I think of the James drop. If only he just caught the ball, game over, but he extended and dropped it. Then the coaching and Big Ben took over.

  100. So, let me get this straight….

    You have a coach who averages 12 wins a year (11 if you don’t count playoffs), has two Super Bowl appearances as a head coach winning 1, has been an assistant on another Super Bowl winning team, and has been Coach of the Year….

    Because why?

    Situational football? Which is practiced EVERY SINGLE DAY in college and in the NFL….

    Because of lack of discipline? Fans would go ballistic if they cut or traded some of those “discipline problems.” Is Tomlin the GM? He has to coach the roster he is given.

    You better be careful what you wish for….there difference between pretty good and mediocre in the NFL is coaching. Bottom line. See Dallas Cowboys of the late 90’s. See 49er’s from a few years back. I could go on and on and on.

  101. No NFL team that was beaten by the Chicago Bears in 2017 has no right to event think they had a shot at winning the Super Bowl. Sorry, not Sorry Pittsburgh.

  102. bigbeniswack says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:38 pm

    Wow. As a Browns fan I’ll always hate the Steelers but you guys are crazy if you want to blame your coach. Your quarterback is overrated but you guys act like he’s better than Brady. Plus your coach has never had a losing season. Let me say that slowly since you guys are Steeler fans: NEVER HAD A LOSING SEASON. But hey get rid of the coach and you guys will all the super bowls forever. Stupid.

    ————————————————————————————

    WOW!!! A Browns fan calling Big Ben overrated? Guess when you’ve seen 85 different starting QBs on your team, you feel like an expert???

  103. idislikespeciousness says:
    January 16, 2018 at 4:44 pm
    Every time I see that ad for the NFL Ticket Exchange where they show the immaculate extension play I think of the James drop. If only he just caught the ball, game over, but he extended and dropped it. Then the coaching and Big Ben took over.

    So Pittsburgh would have played Tennessee at home. Let’s assume NE loses to JAX at home. Now Pitt is right back where they started. Losing to JAX. The Incomplete Pass was just that and if they had erroneously awarded him a TD, they still lose, at home, to JAX.

    Great teams win on the road.

  104. 345snarkavenue says:
    January 16, 2018 at 3:28 pm

    The Steelers beat the Patriots just not the refs, namely Al Riveron who handed them several games on a silver platter. It’s pretty fishy that every play he reviewed was in the patriots favor….hmmm. Could he possibly have friends betting on the patriots? It is so funny to hear patriots fans always holier than thou when they were caught cheating how many times. They usually have refs on their side ex; Saturday night questionable calls against titans early taking away any momentum they might have had twice. The Steelers should have been the number one seed and been playing the titans not the jaguars anyway.
    ——————————————————————————————————————
    If only Jesse James had just twisted and landed on his back on that play, just like Gronkowski has been coached to do on every play like that. But there was no such coaching in Pittsburgh, James didn’t do it, and the Steelers and their fans have suddenly discovered that the “survive the ground” concept has been in effect and consistently called for years now. It was obvious, it’s always called that way, suck it up.

  105. pauldeba says:
    January 16, 2018 at 12:10 pm
    Off topic about the Steelers, but I watched the Buffalo Super Bowl against the Giants recently and Jim Kelly’s clock management on the final drive was worse than I have seen anything Mike Tomlin or Andy Reid ever do.
    ——————————–
    and Jim Kelly’s Bills lost the game. Your argument would hold more water if the Bills had won that game. Maybe if the clock management in that game were better maybe the Bills would have won.

  106. Rooney should only fire Tomlin if he wants the team to improve and begin winning Championships again. Tomlin had a ton of talent (once again) on that current team and Tomlin, Haley and Butler screwed it all up – again – exactly as was predicted by thousands (amateurs and professionals alike) who follow the sport. No surprise here. The man has a very low level of football knowledge and even less football instincts. This is one of the worst coaching staffs in the entire NFL. It is so bad that even past stars & commentators (like Bradshaw) are calling them out. it seems to be obvious to everyone except Rooney – which doesn’t say much for Rooney. Look, I know Tomlin is a nice guy – I totally get that. But, frankly he was a bad hire from the get go. The rest of that team is working for too hard to continue to under perform because of a totally inferior coaching staff. When the Steelers walk on the field against Belichick and his team they are automatically down 10 points without ever snapping the ball.

  107. myvietnamwasfightingtheclap says:

    January 16, 2018 at 1:05 pm

    No way this happens. Still, this team lost because of Ben, not Mike.
    _______________________________________________________________________________

    Ya, It was Ben that allowed the other team to score 45pts. Ben that allowed the other team to rush for 165yds. It was Ben’s fault that They went for it on that early 4th down that gave the Jags the ball near mid field. It was Ben that decided to kick an onside kick down 7 with 2:20 to play and 2 timeouts (a play that statistically fails more often than not). It was Ben that decided to waste the last 47 seconds (Even the announcers said they should kick the FG) rather than kicking the FG and getting the onside and attempting a hail mary type play. It was Ben’s fault the team came out and went 3 and out on the first drive going open set and throwing 3 wr screens. It’s Ben’s fault that the team consistently plays down to their competition. Ben’s fault the team is undisciplined. Nearly 500yds passing and 5 TDs… yep, Ben’s Fault. Most, if not all, of this falls squarely on the coaching staff.

  108. First of all, fans need to understand that Art Rooney is not his dad nor his grandfather.
    The Chief was a rancorous personality. He ran with politicians, boxers, gamblers and
    was rumored to be a bit of a bootlegger. Not in a bad sense ..but as a lovable tough guy
    who made sure a deceased’s funeral was properly attended.
    Dan grew up the city, went to a traditional Catholic high school and came up
    working hard.
    Art just doesn’t relate like his dad. That’s not easy. He is just not a
    leader. It’s not a criticism it’s just his way. When Santonio Holmes went a step too far..
    gone..a Super Bowl MVP for a fifth round pick. That sends a team a message.
    When two players are caught smoking weed on the way to the airport ..a really
    embarrassing incident …no real reaction.
    The locker room is a mess. Ben is just not a leader. But the Steelers have no one to blame
    but themselves. They pass on players like Puzlosney…and get bad guys.
    You never win without character. Hopefully someone can return the Steeler organization
    back to the old days where it was the example of how a team should be run.
    .

  109. ninevegetable says:
    January 16, 2018 at 4:32 pm
    Love when people compare Tomlin (or anyone) to Belichick. If that’s the standard, and everyone must meet/surpass the standard, then 30 coaches should be fired every year.

    Putting it in perspective…

    When Belichick was Tomlin’s age, he was flaming out in Cleveland.

    —————————-
    When Belichick was Tomlin’s age he was leading the Browns from an absolute train wreck through 4 years of a better record every year and then into their only playoff appearance in decades. After that the team got ripped out from under him and shipped to Baltomre to become the Ravens. I dont believe Cleveland has never seen a playoff appearance since.

    But sure, stick with Tomlin if you think he will be good in a couple decades. Dont want to let that get away huh?

  110. Hopefully someone can return the Steeler organization
    back to the old days where it was the example of how a team should be run.

    ————

    Ahh yes, the good old days when Art had the team Physicians passing out PED’s like candy and pumping his roster full of various steroids and growth hormones. A clear example of character and a model for the rest of the NFL.

  111. Sure, fire the guy with the 15th best win-loss percentage in NFL history, the 10th best in the Super Bowl era, and who’s 2nd among active coaches behind only Bill Belichick.

    In 11 seasons, he’s never had a losing season. He’s taken the team to the playoffs 8 times, including each of the past 4 seasons. Really good call, guys.

    And you’re upset he’s “only” taken you to 2 super bowls in the last 10 years. Wow.

  112. 2008 won the Super Bowl
    2010 lost in the super bowl
    2016 lost to the Patriots in the Conference championship

    Every other year early flame out in the playoffs. If they make it.

    I’d take it for my Lions. Something tells me the Steelers fans have slightly higher standards for their team.

  113. So 11 of the 12 limited partners total ownership < 25% ?? want to fire the coach because ???????? This is what separates the Steelers from the Browns.

  114. It’s well known in New England that Tomlin will either (stubbornly) game plan poorly or do at least 1 thing within the game that costs his team. He’s not creative at all and it’s laughable. It’s literally worth 7-10 points per game minimum, and it never fails. I’ve never, ever seen a coaching decision he’s made win a game for them, but can count on 2 hands the times his lack of coaching ability lost it for them. The mismanagement of the final minute last week was atrocious. Just like the “There’s no script for those moments” debacle when they inexplicably didn’t at least get to overtime against the Pats last month. Not the hallmark of a good coach, much less a great one.

    Don’t bother to give me the guy’s record or resume—this observation has been made by everybody and the record simply indicates the talent he’s had. He’s been blessed with a circumstance that can no longer mask his deficiencies. The Steelers should move on if they want a real chance of winning another Super Bowl before Roethlisberger’s window shuts.

  115. None of the decisions that Tomlin made were as bad as what the Eagles coach did. The difference was the Eagles won the game. Calling for the firing of a coach that has won 1 of 2 superbowls and has NEVER had a losing season in 10 years is ridiculous. Can he do better? YES, but its not worth firing. If that’s the case Ben, AB and LeVeon should all be gone.

  116. ikeclanton says:
    January 16, 2018 at 8:12 pm

    I’ve never, ever seen a coaching decision he’s made win a game for them.
    ———————————————————————————————————-
    I disagree. They went for two against San Diego to win it in regulation and Bell plowed in from the wildcat. That was a gutsy call, and it worked.

  117. Coffeehog says:
    January 16, 2018 at 8:30 pm

    so….are the Patriots better off or worse off facing Jacksonville instead of Pittsburgh?
    —————————————————————————————————–
    E-V-E-R-Y-B-O-D-Y in NE wanted to play the Steelers, no one wanted to see Jacksonville. The Steelers have talent, but they lack the discipline to beat NE as has been proven countless times.

  118. drrichardrydze says:
    January 16, 2018 at 3:53 pm
    It just hasn’t been the same for Tomlin and the Stoolers since my namesack Dr. Rydze was busted shipping HGH and Anabolic Steroids to the Team Facilities. No Championships since getting off the PED train.

    6 5 Rate This

    You left the team in 07. Then we proceeded to win in 08. And appeared in a super bowl in 10. So thank you for leaving, you were clearly a problem 🙂

  119. Yes but he also went for 2 after a 10 yard penalty against the Jags in another playoff game. That ultimately cost the Steelers the game.
    Going for 2 from the 12 yard line in the 3rd quarter? Pathetic. He NEVER learns.

  120. I don’t think Tomlin is going anywhere.

    That being said, it wouldn’t hurt if ownership had an end-of-season sit-down about his issues. The so-called ‘playing down’ to certain competition…the ‘situational football’ concern…overall dicipline (eh, maybe-maybe-not an issue). Tomlin seems like he holds his players accountable while trying to let them express themselves. Not sure if it’s better or not, but proof is in the pudding; no rings since #43. Honestly, I don’t think they’ll find someone better to take over, at present, so that means Tomlin needs to be evaluated and do some self-evaluation about how he does his business. Whatever he may, or may not, have in place for those final seconds (i.e. situational football) perhaps needs to be included in his evaluating. Try to find an answer to the ‘playing down’ problem.

    Clearly what he’s been doing has been successful; to a point. So, what does it take to get past that particular point? The Devil Is In The Details.

  121. Has anyone every composed bill cower and Mike Tomlin. They’re the same guy one is black one is white. If they let cower stay as long as he did then let Tomlin do the same. It’s racism plain and simple. Smh. He’s a good coach, mike MUNCHAK.. Russ Grimm.. GTFOH.. if Tomlin goes the steeler will suck

  122. lets see if I get this right: Tomlin is arrogant, he is not belichick and hasn’t done anything in 7 years?. Name me one coach who is not arrogant? Mike McCarthy has the best QB in the NFL and last time I checked, GB hasn’t won in a while. Fire Tomlin and he will find another job very quickly.NFL fans are weird

  123. Being limited partners, they have no say whatsoever in the running of the team. That’s the way it works. So their opinion means exactly as much as mine.

  124. I hope they fire him, and I hope the Bears grab him. In the last 14 Superbowls, 6 have been attended by Brady, 4 by Manning and 3 by Roethlisberger and 1 with Flacco.

    You Steelers fans dont realize how good you actually have it.

  125. Fire a coach that hasn’t had a losing record? These armchair GMs and such are crazy. Where’s the heat for sean payton and mike mccarthy for not making the big game in forever? Pete Carroll hasn’t been to the NFC Championship in awhile, where’s the pitchforks for him? Let’
    s be real about this: Yes the Steelers were super overrated this year, but overall The steelers cant help two of the best QBs in History ran rampant on the AFC for damn near two decades. you could be doing so much worse…tomlin heat isn’t unwarranted but fire him? lol no..there needs to be changes to his staff and some process things he does thats about it

  126. PLEASE Fire Mike Tomlin, there are quite a few teams salivating at a chance to get a good coach like him, NUMBER ONE is the Redskins! Get Gruden the hell out of here!

  127. These guys will quickly learn that their ownership stake gets them a nice sky box, little more. Tomlin isn’t going anywhere right now. The best you can do is bring in coaches and players who make up for his mediocre gameday management skills. Roethlisberger goes a long way towards doing that but it’s usually not enough.

    As you can tell by the comments here, if you fired Tomlin there’d be three teams immediately lining up to beg for his services. Mike’s cool and charismatic and gives good press conference. Plus, up until now the talking heads on ESPN have looked at him as the second coming of Lombardi.

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