NFL says Raiders complied with Rooney Rule

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The Rooney Rule is no more. Or it might as well be. Time of death, 2:29 p.m. ET.

The NFL has put out word that the Raiders complied with the Rooney Rule before hiring coach Jon Gruden.

Even though they agreed to hire Gruden before they fired Jack Del Rio, which owner Mark Davis admitted to at Gruden’s press conference.

Even though the two minority candidates they interviewed after they agreed to a deal with their next coach were guys with no head coaching or coordinating experience in the league, who they didn’t even give assistant coaching jobs to. They dragged Southern Cal offensive coordinator Tee Martin and tight ends coach Bobby Johnson through interviews, and even interviewed Martin for a job on Gruden’s staff later.

But the league determined that’s just fine, after talking to Gruden, Davis and General Manager Reggie McKenzie. They will not be punished.

By doing nothing about a flagrant violation of the rule, the NFL has effectively set a precedent that no one will be punished for violating it, ever.

Maybe they’re hoping for a government shutdown today, or maybe they just don’t care. But under no circumstances can anyone interested in fairness in hiring practices believe that the right thing was done here today.

54 responses to “NFL says Raiders complied with Rooney Rule

  1. The rule may have been compatible with the way the league did business in 2002 but things happen too fast now for it to be effective. There would be too much political blow back from (rightfully) getting rid of it, so the only option is to not enforce it.

  2. The rule has good intentions but it situations like this it’s a joke that the Raiders have to interview minority candidates.

    Imagine if Belichick left the Pats and ‘team A’ wanted to sign him as coach. They would still have to comply with the Rooney rule despite having one of the greatest coaches available. It’s a joke

  3. The Rooney Rule is stupid anyways. It basically says, “Before I hire the best available (think of Bill Belichick, if he were available), I have to interview Romeo Crennell”.

  4. There was no violation at all. Chucky didn’t sign until all interviews were complete. You may not like it but it’s the letter of the law. Please don’t jump!

  5. It’s not what you know, it’s who you know.

    For Raiders fans, I hope I’m wrong but, I’ve got a feeling the equipment staff better ready the towels. I’m afraid there’s going to be a lots of egg needing to be cleaned off of some faces.

  6. The Rooney Rule is weak to begin with and it should be banned. It makes a mockery of the “candidates” and is a complete waste of time.

    In an ultra competitive league NFL teams will always hire the candidates that best position them to achieve success and win.

  7. The NFL will never allow that can of worms to be opened. Michael Bennett would never let anyone hear the end of it.

  8. George Edwards (DC, Vikes) is the only quality minority candidate for HC at the mo, but I’m happy to positively discriminate against Chucky’s annoying turkey hole staying on TV.

  9. The only “precedent set” here is the re-inforcement of the fact the NFL selectively enforces punishment based on the logo on the jersey.

  10. I dont see the isdue. Over the years of running my own business I have many times had a specific individual I knew of that I wanted for a given role in the company. Come to think of it, there have been a few times that person was a minority but really that was coincidence each time. The fact is we dont think or care about race or gender when we are simply trying to get the right person for insuring the success if our business, and we should be allowed to think that way.

  11. They brought in Martin and Johnson after two security guards and a custodian declined offers to interview for the position. Even though they were on the same floor at the time on their lunch breaks, and were promised it wouldn’t take more than a few minutes.

  12. The bottom line: if the Raiders violated the Rooney Rule with this one, then most of the teams violate the rules most of the time. Heck, I’m an Eagles fan… after they fired Chip Kelley, they “interviewed” Duce Staley.” I love my Eagles and I love Duce Staley but there is no way he would have gotten hired.

    I’m sure they said to him “hey… you do this for us and we’ll try to keep you on the staff.” I’m sure the Raiders did a similar deal w/ Tee Martin and it would have worked had he not gotten more money elsewhere.

  13. The Raiders didn’t violate the rule. The rule isn’t there to stop a team from hiring the guy they want. It’s there to give interview opportunities for minority coaches who otherwise may not have gotten them. In this case two coaches received that opportunity so the Rooney rule was followed.

  14. Since when has the Raiders ever been given the benefit of doubt. Never. If not for them moving and the league (owners) needing to make a profit from it, the Raiders would be getting severely punished/fined.

  15. It’s wrong to interview people for a job you know they won’t get because you’e already selected the hire. It wastes their time and your money. It’s a charade.

    It’s actually the Rooney Rule that is racist. Although probably invented with good intentions in 2017 any rule or law that deals with people by race instead of as individuals is wrong.

  16. johnnybandwagon says:
    January 19, 2018 at 3:29 pm

    Since when has the Raiders ever been given the benefit of doubt.
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    Today.

  17. Nathan says:
    January 19, 2018 at 3:06 pm
    The only “precedent set” here is the re-inforcement of the fact the NFL selectively enforces punishment based on the logo on the jersey.

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    Who down arrows this? Certainly not fans of the Saints, Redskins, Pats, Cowboys or countless other teams that the clown prince has levied rulings against. Are there really that many Jets fans on this site?

  18. As a black man I think the Rooney rule is both good and bad. I think it’s bad because you have situations like this where a coach has already been picked out and you have a team basically bringing in minorities for show purposes only.

    On the other hand I like the rule because although they may not get hired they are at least given the opportunity to have a big time interview. The experience can help them later on in their careers.

    I get why people want it to go away but honestly it isn’t worth getting upset about it. You don’t play any part of the process, so it shouldn’t bother you that much.

  19. The Raiders have a long history of ignoring race all together in every manner of their business including head coaches.

    Screw the Rooney rule.

  20. Let me get this out of the way…as a 38 yo caucasian Virginia boy, I may never truly understand what it’s like to be a minority, but I do know what discrimination feels like. I believe in the goal of the Rooney Rule. I think if all of us take a look at the coaches and GMs across the league, the rule has had a major impact on minorities and woman getting into power positions. Now whether it is truly “fair” yet…that’s a can I am not opening here.

    I guess the issue I have is, the Raiders GM is Reggie McKenzie, a minority. The #2 guy in charge of selecting the coach! To me, this is one of those times the enforcers of a rule are being counterproductive to the rule. I think the rule still has its place, but should be modified so that if there is a minority already established in the GM or Head Coaching positions, the rule should just not apply. If that person is let go, then the rule applies again. That keeps everything fair…the franchise is showing it is progressive and open minded already…and does not make a sham of it by having to say “Well, they took Tee Martin very seriously for their vacant head coaching position…no…really…they did, we swear”! That is what is making this silly…at least for me!

  21. Nathan says: “The only “precedent set” here is the re-inforcement of the fact the NFL selectively enforces punishment based on the logo on the jersey.”
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    Please explain Marshawn Lynch’s 1 game suspension or Crabtree’s suspension or Darius Latham’s 4 game PED suspension… Last time I looked, they were wearing a jersey with the Raiders logo…

  22. The Rooney Rule basically implies there are owners who are predispositioned against interviewing hiring a black coach. If that is the case, how does requiring them to interview a black coach change anything? If a team’s owner doesn’t want to hire the best candidate available and that candidate it black, then he passes at his own peril.

  23. Raiders – first team to hire an Hispanic coach – Flores. Raiders – first team to hire a black coach – Shell. Raiders – first team to hire a female executive – Amy Trask. Nuff said…

  24. RAIDERS fulfilled the obligation of the Rooney rule. It just goes to show how stupid the rule is. All the Rooney rule does is waste the time of the interviewee and interviewer. They only do it because they have to.

  25. sponz says:
    January 19, 2018 at 4:16 pm

    Raiders – first team to hire an Hispanic coach – Flores. Raiders – first team to hire a black coach – Shell. Raiders – first team to hire a female executive – Amy Trask.
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    Not one of those hires happened under the birth lottery winner’s watch.

  26. tylawspick6 says:
    January 19, 2018 at 2:57 pm

    warming balls, blatantly violating the rooney rule, etc, who cares? it is not the pats
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    Get over it. They were warming practice balls for use on the sidelines. They had no possibility of getting onto the playing field.

  27. @mmack66: Keep whining.

    The RAIDERS have always had the bullseye on their chest, thanks to Al.

    Patsy fans are the biggest bellyachers in sports.

    Simpletons, the whole lot of them.

  28. Not that I agree with this rule to begin with, BUT, does anyone on here really believe that the NFL cares about anything other then their bottom line on profits earned.

    They don’t want to make Raider fan’s angry, they don’t want to risk losing Oakland fand before the move to Vegas. The only thing the NFL cares about is money, period. Why not have an independent full time professional officiating crew, because they can’t be controlled. Would it be good for the game, yes. Possibly bad for business, for sure.

    Goodell has ruined the NFL, old school owners cared about making money, but they also cared about the integrity of the game. These new owners care about profit, period. That’s why they put up with Goodell, he will do whatever it takes to keep making sure the NFL profit margin keeps going up.

  29. In 2003, the NFL fined the Detroit Lions $200,000 for failure to interview African-American candidates for the team’s vacant head coaching job. After Marty Mornhinweg was fired, the Lions immediately hired former San Francisco 49ers head coach Steve Mariucci (a native of the Upper Peninsula of Michigan) to replace him without interviewing any other candidates. The Lions claimed they attempted to interview other candidates but that the African-American candidates withdrew from interviews, believing Mariucci’s hiring was inevitable.[17] The Lions would not have a minority head coach until hiring Jim Caldwell in 2014.

  30. I was against Son-of-Al’s publicity stunt of replacing Del Rio with Gruden. But as much as I think the Davis family have been terrible owners over the last 20+ years, to accuse them of going against the Rooney Rule is ridiculous.

    The Raiders were the first team to ever hire an Hispanic HC (Tom Flores). The first to hire a Black HC (Art Shell) in the modern era. And the current GM (Reggie McKenzie) happens to be Black.

  31. mullman76 says:
    January 19, 2018 at 5:14 pm

    @mmack66: Keep whining.

    The RAIDERS have always had the bullseye on their chest, thanks to Al.
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    Please document one instance of the NFL doing anything detrimental to the Raiders.

    Frankly, I’m tired of the Raider Island inferiority complex and hearing about the tuck rule game that was played nearly 20 years ago. How’s that for whining?

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    January 19, 2018 at 4:37 pm

    sponz says:
    January 19, 2018 at 4:16 pm

    Raiders – first team to hire an Hispanic coach – Flores. Raiders – first team to hire a black coach – Shell. Raiders – first team to hire a female executive – Amy Trask.
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    Not one of those hires happened under the birth lottery winner’s watch.

    DUDE, son of Al hired an African American GM AS HIS VERY FIRST HIRE!

  33. Same folks who admitted not knowing that footballs naturally deflate in cold weather. I’ve owned dogs that figured it out.

  34. mmack66 says:
    January 19, 2018 at 5:51 pm

    Please document one instance of the NFL doing anything detrimental to the Raiders.

    Frankly, I’m tired of the Raider Island inferiority complex and hearing about the tuck rule game that was played nearly 20 years ago. How’s that for whining?

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    I can document some:

    – the Raiders lost the 1977 AFC Championship game (and their chance to win back-to-back Lombardis) based on a blatantly botched official’s call on the Rob Lytle fumble. The outrage and bad publicity was such that the NFL office was forced to send a letter of apology to the Raiders org. (despite the feud between Davis & Rozelle)

    – the Raiders offered several a great deal to the Colts in exchange for the draft rights to rights to John Elway (who refused to play for the Colts). The Colts HC at the time (Frank Kush) years later said that the Raiders offered the best deal by far but that Rozelle forced the Colts to trade the draft rights to Denver instead.

  35. Why can’t people see the difference between “agreeing” to sign a deal and actually signing a deal? Didn’t Ken Norton just agree to coach on the 49ers D only to change his mind to go back to Seattle? Nothing is final until the ink is dry. You might want to say that constitutes violating the Rooney rule, but in the real world, it doesn’t.

  36. Coffeehog says:
    January 19, 2018 at 3:17 pm
    I dont see the isdue. Over the years of running my own business I have many times had a specific individual I knew of that I wanted for a given role in the company. Come to think of it, there have been a few times that person was a minority but really that was coincidence each time. The fact is we dont think or care about race or gender when we are simply trying to get the right person for insuring the success if our business, and we should be allowed to think that way.
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    I think you are fundamentally correct but unless you are doing business on the same grand public scale as the NFL there is no comparison.

    Having said that. This rule is an embarrassment for the NFL.

  37. Apparently Commissioner Goodell had Lisa Friel conduct an investigation.
    Ms.Friel assigned NFL investigator Kia Roberts to interview the candidates
    allegedly interviewed in order to comply with the Rooney rule as well as
    front office personal for the Raiders.
    After conducting her investigation Kia Roberts advised Lisa Friel that
    the interviews took place after the hiring of Gruden had occurred and that
    the Raider employees interviewed had no crediblity. Kia Roberts
    recommended the league fine the Raiders.
    After careful review of Kia Roberts investigation, Lisa Friel recommended
    to Commissioner Goodell no fines or penalties for violating the Rooney Rule.
    When Friel was questioned by the media and asked whether she informed
    the Commissioner that Ms Roberts made a finding that the Raiders had clearly
    violated the Rooney rule…Ms. Friel responded that she “ could not recall whether
    she had informed Commissioner Goodell of Ms. Roberts findings and recommendation.”

  38. Those guys were not clearly qualified to be a head coach in the NFL. The Rooney Rule needs serious clarification. This was nothing but an end run around the rule by Oakland.

  39. @mmack66: Read araiders fan post, he speaks the truth.

    Imagine the RAIDERS with John Elway at QB instead of with the Broncos.

    There was no way the NFL was going to allow Al to get his hands on a QB like Elway in the middle of winning 3 rings in 8 years.

    How many more rings would the RAIDERS have?

    Rozelle along with Rooney, Mara, Hunt and the rest of the owners who
    despised Al were not going to take any chances.

    BLOCKED THE TRADE.

    How’s that for a jam sandwich, brother?

    BTW, “Raider Island”…that’s funny, well done.

    RAIDER NATION

  40. araidersfan says: “- the Raiders offered several a great deal to the Colts in exchange for the draft rights to rights to John Elway (who refused to play for the Colts). The Colts HC at the time (Frank Kush) years later said that the Raiders offered the best deal by far but that Rozelle forced the Colts to trade the draft rights to Denver instead.”
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    Except the FACTS don’t support your claim. Al Davis was talking trades to Chicago Bears about acquiring their #6 draft pick so they could deal them to Colts to get Elway. Chicago has said the Raiders and them talked, but Raiders didn’t offer anything appealing (CB Ted Watts & safety Kenny Hill) for them to give away high draft pick. Bears GM Jim Finks said he might have done the trade if Raiders offered DE Howie Long, but DFO Steve Ortmayer just never called back. Raiders didn’t have anything better to offer directly to the Colts.

    Second, Kush didn’t even know about the trading Elway until AFTER it was done. Neither did Colts GM Ernie Acorsi, as it was all on Irsay who wanted to salvage the pick. Arcosi was ready to wait out Elway’s bluff about playing baseball as he read the baseball scouting reports that Elway couldn’t hit in Triple A, especially the curveball.

    Sorry to throw in actual facts. Please continue with your rant.

  41. “But under no circumstances can anyone interested in fairness in hiring practices believe that the right thing was done here today.”

    Please tell me what’s “fair” about the Rooney Rule, specifically as it relates to the Raiders? The rule is actually designed to be unfair to current employers to resolve past (arguably current) racial discrimination in hiring practices. The Raiders have proven throughout their history that they are not concerned about race or gender when it comes to hiring, thus the rule is demonstrably unfair to them. If it was “fair” it would have always only applied to teams who have a history of discriminatory practices in their hiring.

    What’s truly aggravating are those, specifically those who have high profile platforms, who virtue signal and claim this arbitrary quota is anything more than “fairness theater.”

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