Matt Patricia has told some Lions assistants they’re gone

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Technically, Matt Patricia isn’t the Lions coach yet. Technically, the Lions can’t even offer him a contract yet.

But since NFL teams don’t bother abiding by the rules they made for themselves any more, business is proceeding.

According to Dave Birkett of the Detroit Free Press, Patricia met with some Lions assistants last week and told them they won’t be staying on his staff.

The Lions squatted on their assistants after firing coach Jim Caldwell, and the expectation is that Patricia may clean house on defense (his side of the ball). Former defensive coordinator Teryl Austin has already taken a job in Cincinnati, and line coach Kris Kocurek went to Miami.

They’ve also parted ways with quarterbacks coach Brian Callahan, but Birkett reports that tight ends coach Al Golden and receivers coach Robert Prince are still in Mobile for the Senior Bowl. The Lions are expected to hang onto offensive coordinator Jim Bob Cooter as well, but Patricia is clearly working on his future staff in addition to getting ready for the Senior Bowl.

48 responses to “Matt Patricia has told some Lions assistants they’re gone

  1. The NFL needs to, and I’m sure they will, change the rules to fit the real world. If Patricia is going to get rid of all the assistants, why make them wait around until after all the other coaching staffs get filled out? Patricia is doing the right thing. All these coaches have families, and they’re all in limbo, sitting around watching all the opportunities dry up. And then also, guys like Patricia should be preparing for the Super Bowl, but they need to be putting a staff together. Maybe the NFL should wait until after the super bowl to let anyone hire a coach.

  2. Local news in Indianapolis is reporting McDaniels is breaking the same rules there.

    That makes the Patriots run this year that much more special since apparently they’re winning in spite of not having any coaches actually coaching other than Bellichik

  3. Put it in context. Patricia spoke with Cooter during his Detroit interview, and was given copies of the assistant’s 2017 performance evaluations. He can’t fire anybody, but I’m sure he can make it known whom he would and wouldn’t keep as HC without any violations.

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    It’s best to know sooner rather than later. It gives them extra time to latch on with another club. It’s especially important that they are free to showcase themselves at the Super Bowl where everyone is represented.
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  5. I wonder if the referees will try to cheat the Lions like the cheated the Patriots during the game against the Jaguars?

    Everyone who was watching the game saw the body slam tackle 4 yards in the end zone on White after the Patriots touchdown. Which was then followed by a shot to the head after White stood up. That happened right in front of the referee who didn’t throw a flag.

    The referees also handed the Jaguars an undeserved fumble recovery in order to cheat the Patriots. Lewis was laying on the ground with the football pinned against his hip. He was in contact with the Jaguars defender so the play should have been over and no fumble.

    All football fans understand that a player doesn’t need both hands or to have the center of the football to be in possession of the football. We all remember when helmet catch (Tyree) pinned the football to his helmet. Football fans all remember when (Baldwin) pinned a football to his leg. The referees awarded both of them possession.

    But now when the referees are trying to cheat the Patriots they don’t let Lewis pin the football to his hip and award him with possession of the football. The football never hit the ground and was not in the air so it can’t be a fumble while Lewis has it pinned to his hip.

    Other than the automatic flags, which the Jaguars earned a fall start, delay of game, an illegal shift, an unnecessary roughness penalty, the Jaguars were only called for 2 penalties requiring referee judgement in the entire game.

    Those 2 Jaguar penalties were for tackling one of the Patriots offensive linemen to prevent a QB sack and the other flag was when a Jaguar defensive back put his hands on Cooks to push Cooks out of bounds. Those were easy calls that are called against every team, during every NFL game.

    You mean to tell me that the referees couldn’t have found any Jaguar penalties that would require referee judgement in the entire game? The referees called one of those judgement penalties when the Patriots were flagged for holding during a kickoff.

  6. Honestly, it would be unfair to the guys he’s getting rid of to wait. Give them as much time to find a new job as possible.

    It’s a class move to do that for people you have no connection to.

    I’m more interested on who he brings in as his D Coordinator.

  7. Patriots need to lose their 1st round pick in the draft and have Brady and Belichick suspended for the Super Bowl for having their assistants fire other team’s coaches

  8. All fine – we need a defensive overhaul. Can’t get gouged up the middle for 8 yard runs every play. Would love to see LeBeau here or James Betcher if he isn’t retained in AZ.

    Really surprised Robert Prince is still around as we fired his Dad who was awful as O-Line coach. Letting Callahan walk is a mistake (I’m guessing he goes to NY with Schurmer). JBC should stay. Get a real o-line coach.

  9. Seems to me, that typically Head Coaching candidates are asked whom they would try to bring in as assistants and coordinators during their interviews. I think that gives the hiring team a damned good idea who will be let go too.

  10. Really thought you were going to say how considerate it is since it frees the coaches he doesn’t want to find another job.

  11. I believe the rule (not that the league would “wink,wink” follow it) that there cannot be any coaching changes until the new Black Monday which would be the day after the Super Bowl.

  12. Coaches on playoff teams should not be dividing their loyalties. It’s wrong. The NFL needs to consider a window for head coaching jobs that only opens after the Super Bowl. No interviews for anyone until the window opens Certainly there would need to be some teeth to enforce it, or everyone will cheat. Forfeiting draft picks would work.

  13. Patricia, will be at the top of the upcoming new NFL HC class… Great DC and very much a Belicheck clone. I suspect he already has his OC and staff lined up… Willing to bet McDaniels is doing likewise.

  14. when this guy bombs as a HC, I’m gonna make a shirt with his face and a photoshopped clown nose.

    belichick is what makes it all go. his assistants are nothing but that, and none of them are worth the hype.

  15. Doesn’t matter who is hired. The Detroit Lions are jinxed. Forever. The Lions have won one playoff game since beating the Cleveland Browns, 59-14, to win the 1957 NFL championship. “When Bobby Lane found out he got traded to the Pittsburgh Steelers, he said something to the effect that the Lions won’t win a championship for 50 years.” Coincidentally, in the 2009 NFL Draft, right after the curse supposedly expired, the Detroit Lions drafted University of Georgia quarterback Matthew Stafford first overall. And how has that worked out for the Lions at home watching the playoffs and championship games?

  16. jchemengr says:
    January 23, 2018 at 9:46 am

    Coaches on playoff teams should not be dividing their loyalties. It’s wrong. The NFL needs to consider a window for head coaching jobs that only opens after the Super Bowl. No interviews for anyone until the window opens Certainly there would need to be some teeth to enforce it, or everyone will cheat. Forfeiting draft picks would work.

    What? NE, the team the coaches are leaving doesn’t have a problem with it, why do you? BB is confident the coaches will continue to do their current job well. Going to another Superbowl proves it.

  17. getyourownname says:
    January 23, 2018 at 9:26 am

    A Pats coach bending the rules? You must be joking.

    What rule? Wouldn’t Detroit be the one bending this imaginary rule? These coaches haven’t been officially hired.

  18. jromback says:
    January 23, 2018 at 9:12 am

    Really surprised Robert Prince is still around as we fired his Dad who was awful as O-Line coach. Letting Callahan walk is a mistake (I’m guessing he goes to NY with Schurmer). JBC should stay. Get a real o-line coach.
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    Ahh, Ron Prince, the Lions O-Line Coach last year, is 48 years old and Robert Prince, the Lions Receivers Coach is 52 years old. Obviously Robert Prince is not Ron Prince’s son. And, despite all the nepotism in the NFL, these two guys are not related at all. They just happen to share the same last name.

  19. @factpurveyor

    Wow. I realize you Pats fan live in LaLa land. If you really think the refs cheated the Pats, let me help you out buddy. Pats had 1 flag on special teams for 10 yards for the ENTIRE game. No team is that perfect. Especially when Telvin Smith was held on that last run the sealed the game. How do you think he got the first down. Go look at it. But hey as you say the refs cheated the Pats on a game that they won and where refs were celebrating and smiling with Pats players are touchdowns and congratulatings Brady after the game. Laughable. So enjoy the SB and relish in the great run you all have had. For everyone else we’ve read this book before and it’s boring.

  20. Patricia is not the answer. He’s a decent defensive coach at best, just another Jim Schwartz to keep the Lions in the same place they have been for 6 decades, which is the losing spot. Everyone knows the Patriots are elite because of Brady and Belichick, not Patricia….The Patriots defense (Patricia) is not the reason why they have had dynasty of dominance all these years. Can’t wait to see the Lions suffer another 3 years at a minimum.

  21. vikingf0rlife says:
    January 23, 2018 at 10:40 am
    Patricia is not the answer. He’s a decent defensive coach at best, just another Jim Schwartz to keep the Lions in the same place they have been for 6 decades, which is the losing spot. Everyone knows the Patriots are elite because of Brady and Belichick, not Patricia….The Patriots defense (Patricia) is not the reason why they have had dynasty of dominance all these years. Can’t wait to see the Lions suffer another 3 years at a minimum.
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    Sounds like you’re whistling through the graveyard. Patricia’s work ethic and demeanor put him way ahead of Schwartz so your comparison is ignorant.

  22. With all the hype about the Patriots coaches, let me say one thing. When Brady or Belichek walk, the Pats will drop from a perennial 12-4/11-5 team to a 8-8/6-10 team. Their performance is based solely on the Brady/Belicheck relationship.

  23. The Patriots won the Super Bowl the last time they faced these exact same circumstances.

    Here are the eerily similar circumstances.

    In 2005, the Patriots were trying to win their 3rd Super Bowl in four year and faced Philadelphia in the Super Bowl. Belichick and his coordinators knew it was their last season together with Crennel moving on to Cleveland and Weis to Notre Dame.

    In 2018, the Patriots are trying to win their 3rd Super Bowl in four year and will face Philadelphia in the Super Bowl. Belichick and his coordinators know it is their last season together with Patricia moving on to Detroit and McDaniels to Indy.

    Of course, the only circumstance Patriots are really interested in is that this team also beat Philadelphia. We aren’t asking Nick Foles to lose his lunch on his shoes, but we won’t complain if he does.

  24. The Vikings had better get used to the Lions owning them from next year on. Won’t take much since we have beaten them 3 out of the last 4 games, including the last two games in Minnesota. Patricia is quite a bit more intelligent than Mike Zimmer. He has had very limited personnel over the last 5 years, yet his defenses have been near the top of the scoring defense rankings. And no, that isn’t Belicheck, he turned over the defensive play calling to Patricia years ago. In addition, unlike Minnesota, New England’s defense plays it’s best in the playoffs.

  25. As long as they get the right personnel for the offense, I trust Matty P on the defensive side of things.

    Also I see the Viking trolls are out, realizing their one moment is long gone, and the future of the North belongs to The Lions!

    ROAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  26. All the “shouldn’t they be getting ready for the Super Bowl” comments are hilarious. This guy has been with the Pats for how many years? How long is the regular season? What’s their record? Calm down folks, I think they know what they’re doing.

  27. PresidentTrumpIsRightRespectYourCountryAndFlag says:
    January 23, 2018 at 8:36 am
    Patty will be another Belichick assistant who fails miserably as a HC, don’t they all??
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    Salty, salt, salt. Firstly, no one is Belichick, and much of the reason they don’t as well is because the teams they go to want that success but don’t want to cede the total control to the HC required. Belichick controls everything as a GM-HC and with an owner who makes a point of not interfering. I doubt any other team would give that and yet without it, even if one of his assistants had a similar potential, you ain’t gonna copy the success of Foxboro.

  28. theyearofthecat1 says Also I see the Viking trolls are out, realizing their one moment is long gone, and the future of the North belongs to The Lions!

    Haven’t the Detroit fans been saying that since, like, Dick Lebeau was patrolling the Lions secondary as a CB?

  29. cizbo says:
    January 23, 2018 at 9:55 am
    Hmmm…let’s see if the Rooney Rule comes up here. Methinks not.

    I guess Austin all of a sudden turned into a white man?

  30. Actually Patricia was going to bring in Charlie Weis and Mark Mangino to be coordinators so he could have a 1000 lb coaching staff of 3 (including Patricia, of course).

  31. cizbo says:
    January 23, 2018 at 9:55 am
    Hmmm…let’s see if the Rooney Rule comes up here. Methinks not.
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    You haven’t paid any attention to who the Lions have interviewed, have you?

    The Lions still have big issues with running the ball, protecting Stafford, rushing the passer, and stuffing the run. They’re good enough to beat less talented teams – that’s it. Unfortunately I don’t think Patricia will be able to fix that next year or the year after.

    Next year they play the Patriots, Dolphins, Panthers, Rams, Cowboys, Packers (twice), Vikings (twice). They’ll be fortunate to finish 9-7, but will probably finish less than 7-9.

    The most impressive thing about the Lions is the loyalty of their fans. Lions fans are enduring optimists — they believe they can survive the zombie apocalypse. They deserve a winning team. Best of luck to Patricia, but I don’t expect any miracles.

  32. Ivan Pavlov says:
    January 23, 2018 at 8:42 pm
    cizbo says:
    January 23, 2018 at 9:55 am
    Hmmm…let’s see if the Rooney Rule comes up here. Methinks not.
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    You haven’t paid any attention to who the Lions have interviewed, have you?

    The Lions still have big issues with running the ball, protecting Stafford, rushing the passer, and stuffing the run. They’re good enough to beat less talented teams – that’s it. Unfortunately I don’t think Patricia will be able to fix that next year or the year after.

    Next year they play the Patriots, Dolphins, Panthers, Rams, Cowboys, Packers (twice), Vikings (twice). They’ll be fortunate to finish 9-7, but will probably finish less than 7-9.

    The most impressive thing about the Lions is the loyalty of their fans. Lions fans are enduring optimists — they believe they can survive the zombie apocalypse. They deserve a winning team. Best of luck to Patricia, but I don’t expect any miracles.

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    That’s great, Lions fans are optimistic. This still doesn’t change the fact that the Lions are the Browns of the NFC and now have to hire yet another coach and start all over again. Lots and lots personnel upgrades needed, it’s going to be at least three to four years before you guys can be on a competitive level.

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