Mike Zimmer: We’re gonna work through the process at quarterback

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Vikings coach Mike Zimmer held an end of season press conference on Tuesday that touched on a variety of topics including the team’s quarterback situation.

Zimmer conceded that it is “unique” to head into the offseason with questions at the position after advancing to the NFC Championship Game and that seems an apt definition for a team that has three quarterbacks set for free agency. Zimmer said he wasn’t “prepared to comment” on any specific plans concerning Case Keenum, Sam Bradford or Teddy Bridgewater.

“We’re gonna work through the process just like I always do,” Zimmer said. “We’re going to evaluate all the players, we’re gonna evaluate everybody and we’re gonna go about our business like we always do.”

Zimmer did say that he thinks Bradford is over the knee problems that knocked him out of the lineup for all but a half after the first week of the season. Bradford was able to return to the active roster in the postseason and served as the No. 2 ahead of Bridgewater, who made one relief appearance during the regular season to mark his only playing time since the end of the 2015 season.

125 responses to “Mike Zimmer: We’re gonna work through the process at quarterback

  1. Keenum did a great job for this team. It will be interesting to see if he was just a one year wonder due to Pat Shurmur or if he’s turned the corner and will continue to play at a high level. I’m no Vikings fan but it’s hard to root against Keenum.

  2. The window for the Vikings is officially shut. No starting QB on the roster. An exposed defense. Facing a 1st place schedule next year. Yikes!

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  3. Here’s the issue..
    We need Bradford’s size and arm, Bridgewater’s age with pocket presence and mobility (hopefully with knee), and Keenum’s moxie, guts, drive and determination and HEALTHY KNEES.
    Vikings fan for 40 years and I don’t really know the answer. If Keenum won the Super Bowl, he’s the starter going into 2018. Now we look at the issue through or “future” or “franchise” guy. I’m exhausted by the season and don’t know. I just want Dalvin cook to have 400 carries, a right tackle and dominating pass rusher. We need better decision making from the coaches as well come crunch time. No Excuse for that game. P.S. Keep it classy Eagles fans…Good Grief

  4. It’s time for the purple fans to concentrate on their offseason championship.
    How many consecutive offseason championships have they won now?
    Must be about 60 something…

  5. The defensive collapse is very concerning. 55 points in the last six quarters. As for the QB, Case might have reached his ceiling, Bradford could still be solid if healthy and they did spend a first and fourth rounder on him to just let walk. And Teddy, a former first rounder with still many questions.

  6. Vikings have a young stacked squad. Couple tweaks here and there on offense and defense and they’ll be back in the hunt next year again. And that scares the predictable posters who always bash the Vikings on this site. Quarterback is always the problem for Vikings, we all know that. I thought Case played great this year and the Vikings should keep him.

  7. I’m so glad that they are working through it. I was afraid they were going to give up, cry, and go home

  8. Really, Philly is vulnerable to short passes that rely on rubbing the receivers or pics and then after hitting those deep passes on double moves. The Vikings did none of that. That’s a coaching issue. It’s like they said we are playing our offense & that’s final, not the offense to beat the other team. They changed the entire O-line during the post season. WHY!? Zim’s D didn’t hardly blitz, especially from the safety position and then he left the backfield to cover passes for way too long. They aren’t cover safeties they are hard hitter and short/medium range coverage. They were not getting to the QB with 4 rushers but Zim did zero to change it. That is all coaching. Not the players. He has had that problem before. Coming off bye weeks. The team is flat. His motivation techniques leave lots to be desired. Being a hard ass to your players all week and over practicing them after the inspirational win was an awful approach. This is Parcell’s Giants of the 80’s. They are a different generation of people. He learned nothing from his cutting the heads off of stuffed cats escapade of last season. I don’t like that he can’t adjust & learns nothing from his mistakes and wants to play D-coordinator instead of head coach.

  9. The Vikings should trade whomever or whatever necessary to coach Andrew Luck away from the Colts. Give up a bank of draft picks to McDaniels so he can commence the rebuilding process.

  10. I was a big supporter of Case until that Eagles game. Looks like they got as many defensive problems as offensive.

  11. IDK…..if Keenum was the guy they wouldn’t be so cryptic. I don’t think they’re sold. But there also scared of Bradford’s age and knees….and Teddy’s full recovery. They’re in a bind.
    If I were Spielman and Zimmer…..I would go all in on Brees. 2 years 55-60M and go all in on a Super Bowl while the window is still open with that defense.

  12. “I’m no Vikings fan but it’s hard to root against Keenum.” — Same same, Jake J. He certainly seems like a good guy and he’s just riding the wave and having a good time. Hope he gets a good shot somewhere, doubt it will be with Vikings. He sure had quite a run.

  13. I really don’t see this as that hard of a decision. Go after Keenum and find a better QB to replace him long term. Bridgewater is a Tier 4 QB. Keenum is Tier 3. Bradford is inconsistent, oscillating between Tier 3 and 5 and gets hurt all of the time.

  14. I think that Sam is the most likely to go. Big bucks – poor availability. Big factor in all of this is Teddy’s health. I know that he is beloved in Minnesota but if he’s not making progress, he is at risk.

  15. Not a Vikings fan, but this team is built to win with almost anyone playing QB. IMO they should resign Bridgewater for 2 years and draft someone at the tail end of the 1st round to be the heir apparent.

    Nothing against Keenum, but let someone else pay for his career year. Letting Keenum walk would be much like what Baltimore did to Trend Dilfer after he won the Super Bowl. Paying Keenum would be much like Baltimore did with Flacco… and we all know what Flacco has done since.

  16. The defense will be fine, you don’t get exposed after 16.5 games. They shut NO out for a half, and future HOF’er Brees has 2 drives of 30 and 40 yards to score TD’s in the second half, one a gift from the QB Keenum who should not be back as a starter. He IS a backup or a placeholder for a top pick. Zimmer does not want him back, it’s very telling in the way he never has committed to him.

  17. Wow, as an aside, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a team get disparaged more than the Vikings have these last few weeks by ill-tempered commenters. I’m a Cowboys fan, and it’s been pretty ugly to watch. If you don’t like the fans, that’s not the team’s fault!

    Who knew this QB situation would end up so murky? Bradford’s probably the best QB on the roster, but they know they need a good backup for him. Keenum has tons of promise, but bumped his head hard on the ceiling with his crazy throws – can they fix that? And Bridgewater has already bumped his head on a much lower ceiling, and probably has nothing to offer beyond that. I think they can safely leave him out of the starting-QB quandary.

    Since neither Bradford nor Keenum will probably accept being a backup now, you probably have to target Keenum and hope you have a shot to keep Bridgewater as backup. They’d be letting their best QB go, but they’re kind of stuck in that regard.

  18. dal1as says:
    January 23, 2018 at 11:20 am

    Bridgewater is still the best one. I personally would go with him.

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    How is he the best one? He made it to one playoff game and didn’t score a point there, and looked terrible in his one brief shot this year.

    He seems like a nice guy, but he looks like a backup to me.

  19. If you have 3 starting QB’s, you have 0 starting QB’s

    None of these guys are top 15 QB’s, so the answer should be, who is the cheapest?

  20. Shocked if anyone would trust Bradford’s knees to want him as a starter. Don’t see a market for Teddy either. Is he going to be what he once was? Vikes can probably keep him for not too much. He was just a game manager. Question is how much if any value will has Keenum lost. Will a team like Az bid him up?
    Good time to be Sloter.

  21. I would prefer Bradford over the other two. Keenum was great filling in this season but he really didnt have to do alot. With the vikings defense (minus the NFC Championship game) all he had to do was get the offense around 20 points and not turn the ball over and they were fine. Its when the defense is struggling and the team needs the QB and the offense to bail them out where Keenum and Bridgewater are weak, they cant win a game for you and Bradford can. Bradford has a better and more accurate arm and makes throws that the other two cannot make. I look at the pros and cons. Bradfords con is his mobility and health. The mobility issue can be taken care of by improving the OL and quick decisions with the ball. Bradford has a better understanding of defenses and makes quicker decisions so his cons are easily correctable. The health is a concern though. If they were to keep them they must have some type of injury clause in his contract. Bridgewater and Keenum have about the dame pros and cons. Both mobile and can run away from pressure, but thats where the pros end. Neither have a strong arm, neither have the best understanding of defenses based on the fact they hang onto the ball a little to long, and neither possess the ability to take over a game and win it for you. Bridgewater also has the injury issue to worry about and the 2 years away from the game. I want to see Bradford resigned with an injury clause and Bridgewater and Sloter to compete for the backup. I dont think Keenum will be back unless he doesnt receive any decent offers while in free agency.

  22. The team wasn’t prepared for the Philadelphia game. The coaches and players share equally because they were all terrible. I have no idea why that happened, but I do know that it was one game out of 18 and it was against the best team they faced all year. Let’s not forget about what this team did the rest of the year. There are clear areas that need to be addressed, but those areas are more clear now than they were a couple days ago. They gained playoff experience (they certainly know what not to do now). They probably won’t have as good a record next year but they can be a better team if they make the right decisions in the offseason. It should be interesting.

  23. Top notch OC’s figure out any defense and the Vikings faced a couple of real good ones.

    Yes, they were exposed.

  24. tokyosandblaster says:
    January 23, 2018 at 10:47 am
    38-7.

    That is all.
    ——
    Interesting.

    A fan of a team that did not make the playoffs is mocking a team that did.

    Do you want to get swept twice again next season?

  25. kevpft says:
    January 23, 2018 at 11:25 am

    dal1as says:
    January 23, 2018 at 11:20 am

    Bridgewater is still the best one. I personally would go with him.

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    How is he the best one? He made it to one playoff game and didn’t score a point there, and looked terrible in his one brief shot this year.

    He seems like a nice guy, but he looks like a backup to me.
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    I don’t blame you for feeling that way because you’re a Cowboys fan and aren’t close to the situation. I think it’s important to point out that the one playoff game Bridgewater got to was in his second season. In that year, he spent the entire offseason learning one offense and after Week 1 the entire offense was changed to revolve around the aging running back who couldn’t take a handoff from the shotgun formation. The offensive line was hot garbage and the defense was a shadow of what it was this year. You say he didn’t score a point in the playoff game, but actually, he led them to 9 points, which would have been 12 if the kicker hadn’t missed a 27-yard field goal. Russel Wilson led his team to 10 points thanks to a fluke touchdown on a broken play, so if that’s what we’re judging a player on I guess Wilson is a backup too. Yes, he looked terrible in the six snaps he took this year but I don’t really put much stock into how a guy looked for six snaps after missing two years. There’s going to be a little rust.

  26. I dislike the Vikings. However it seems to me like everyone is forgetting that Phila has a pretty good defense themselves, and that it is totally understandable that one team had a bad day on the road against a good team that had a good day at home.

  27. It is gonna be a tough decision. Two of them have bum knees and the other one was a bum before this season. LOL Bridgewater would probably be the lease expensive of the 3 to keep and Bradford may go down again before the playoff begins.

  28. I bet they will try to keep Bridgewater and Keenum, paying Keenum about 20 milion a year for 2-3 years and Bridgewater for about $10 million or less as a backup. Bradford is probably going to be allowed to walk.

  29. Someone mentioned making a run at Brees. That had also crossed my mind. NO seems ambivalent toward him. Yeah, it would take a wad of cash, but that much more than paying Keenum. If you get another 2-3 years out of Brees while mentoring Sloter, who has a Big Arm and is 6’4″ & 220, I think it’s a smart move.
    Look what Theilen, Diggs, and Rudolph were able to do with Keenum. Now imagine what they could do with Brees. Add some more beef on the O-line and D-line and who knows? Cook will be back next season and you also keep Murray and possibly Michael Floyd. There are a couple rookie WRs already on the squad; Stacy Coley and some other guy who have promise.

  30. I don’t blame him for not tipping his hand — what good would that do, not to mention alienate one of the QBs? While any of the three would likely be serviceable given a pretty deep roster, I’m not particularly sold on any of them. Glad its not my decision to make.

    One thing I can absolutely guarantee is that regardless the decision, 137 cheesers will post on this site (several of the usual suspects multiple times), that the decision was the wrong one. And then in 2018, that supposedly crappy QB will probably beat their team with the HOF QB twice.

  31. This decision is not to be made in a vacuum, you have to factor in the contract and the salary cap hit . Bradford will want his tens of millions and if the Vikings want him as their starter, that’s the only way he will stay. Keenum realizes this is his last big pay day, so either the Vikings step up and pay him tens of millions or he will walk. That leaves us Teddy, he has nowhere to go and I doubt anybody wants him. He will be the starter in 2018 because the other two QB’s will get their money and walk out the door.

    Either way, Year 58 will end the same way Years 1-57th ended. No championship, a lot of smack talk from the fans about next year and a hapless franchise looking to the sky seeking answers that never come.

  32. In Teddy We Trust says:
    January 23, 2018 at 11:36 am

    The team wasn’t prepared for the Philadelphia game. The coaches and players share equally because they were all terrible. I have no idea why that happened, but I do know that it was one game out of 18 and it was against the best team they faced all year. Let’s not forget about what this team did the rest of the year. There are clear areas that need to be addressed, but those areas are more clear now than they were a couple days ago. They gained playoff experience (they certainly know what not to do now). They probably won’t have as good a record next year but they can be a better team if they make the right decisions in the offseason. It should be interesting.

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    There is a reason that prior to Sunday, teams coming off an emotional last second victory were 0-5 the following week. We had our own version of that in the 2003 season. Remember 4th and 26? We got hammered, as the home favorite, by the Panthers in the NFCCG. Its tough to come back from. For that reason, I wouldn’t use the NFCCG this year as an indicator of where your team is. For the same reason that I am not using last week as an indicator of how the Eagles will do against the Pats. Its apples/oranges.

  33. I don’t understand why everyone keeps saying Brees. Brees would be nuts to leave that team that is stacked with young guys that are really good. Are far as I’m concerned the Saints and Eagles are the Vikings biggest problem. I can’t leave the Packers out with Rodgers either.

  34. I don’t see why Case would come back unless he gets no decent offers from other teams. The Vikings have shown him absolutely ZERO public support. And, it’s not like we’re likely to get to the Super Bowl anytime soon. If we can’t get there in a year where key players from almost every good NFC team are out/hurt/suspended (e.g., Rodgers, Wentz, Johnson, Elliott, Seattle Defense, etc.), where we are the #2 seed, and when the Super Bowl is in our HOME STADIUM, when can we get there? I’m assuming NEVER.

  35. What happened to Minnesota? They had the first drive scripted and the rest of the game Shurmer was thinking about who he would be trying to take with him to the Giants! Position interviews should not be allowed until AFTER the Super Bowl.
    And Also SPIELMAN, you listening?? DRAFT SOME LINEMEN higher than the 5th-7th rounds!

  36. The NFC Championship loss wasn’t Keenum’s fault and I don’t think that the Vikings came out flat. What I think is that they ran into a team that played it’s best game all season at just the right time. Nick Foles was Superman in that game. He’s NEVER played like that before. It was unfortunate for the Vikings but they have to regroup and come back strong next season. First they have to figure out who their quarterback is going to be.

  37. By “working through the process” I think what Zim is saying is “let them test the market”. Or at least he should be. There are fewer teams looking for a qb than most years, and all three of these guys are one kind of question mark or other. It’s not like you risk a franchise guy walking out of the building. Let the market set the price, take your pick of the three, angle for a hometown discount but pay what you need to.
    The real rub will be length of contract. If Sloter develops, make sure you can bail a year or two down the road. All those high draft picks they gave up were the cost of getting to this point.
    It’ll be interesting to see if Barr’s hit on Foles (similar to the hit on Rodgers except he was still in the pocket) will result in a point of emphasis for flagging ‘driving the quarterback into the ground after the ball has left his hand’, which I’m pretty sure is illegal already.

  38. @thunderclap –

    That’s right, the Vikings will never get to the Super Bowl. That should have been obvious eight years ago. Players, coaches, executives, and owners change but the curse never changes. That doesn’t mean you give up trying, though! The Eagles, Saints, Falcons, Packers, Rams, Cardinals, and Cowboys will all be improved next year so the Vikings will have to do everything they can to keep up. I’m not sure bringing Keenum back is a move that will improve the team.

  39. contra74 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 11:43 am
    tokyosandblaster says:
    January 23, 2018 at 10:47 am
    38-7.

    That is all.
    ——
    Interesting.

    A fan of a team that did not make the playoffs is mocking a team that did.
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    You know what I find even more interesting?
    That the irony of the post you’re commenting on isn’t lost on you.
    Because I’ve been wondering the same thing the previous 7 seasons.

  40. In Teddy We Trust says:
    January 23, 2018 at 11:36 am
    The team wasn’t prepared for the Philadelphia game. The coaches and players share equally because they were all terrible. I have no idea why that happened, but I do know that it was one game out of 18 and it was against the best team they faced all year. Let’s not forget about what this team did the rest of the year. There are clear areas that need to be addressed, but those areas are more clear now than they were a couple days ago. They gained playoff experience (they certainly know what not to do now). They probably won’t have as good a record next year but they can be a better team if they make the right decisions in the offseason. It should be interesting.

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    Or they just overachieved.

    You have two winning seasons out of 4 under Zimmer. Maybe he’s out coaching the talent?

    Either way you can’t say the team has been consistent the last 4 years. Sometimes it looks like they quit, sometimes they look like they aren’t doing what they are being coached. sometimes they look like one of the best teams in the league.

    I got a lot of flack from you guys when I said Zimmer looks like a coordinator in a few years. So far he’s had two good seasons, with poor performances in the playoffs. He needs to be more consistent if he’s going to survive the fan base up there.

  41. Does the new Vikings practice facility include a trophy case – – – or would they need to do some remodeling if/when they ever win some hardware?

  42. contra74 says:

    January 23, 2018 at 11:43 am

    tokyosandblaster says:
    January 23, 2018 at 10:47 am
    38-7.

    That is all.
    ——
    Interesting.

    A fan of a team that did not make the playoffs is mocking a team that did.

    Do you want to get swept twice again next season?
    =====================
    Says the fan of the team who trolled GB relentlessly last year. You had a part in creating this toxic culture, so why would you expect anything less?

  43. You have to admire and respect Case Keenum. He has paid his dues, been a survivor, and has capitalized on his opportunity.
    This guy has a ton of courage, fortitude, and desire. Of the three choices the Vikings have I still think Case may be the best option…..however, is he the vehicle to take them where they want to ultimately go…maybe not.
    Case may have been in the right place at the right time with a coordinator that he developed a special relationship with.
    I have a feeling the Vikings may move on without him, as they also may move on from all three of them.
    It wouldn’t shock me if they make a blockbuster deal with the Browns for the first pick and draft Cody Allen who reminds me a lot of Carson Wentz….and that would not be a bad outcome for the Vikings.

  44. At the end of last season Zimmer blamed the O line for the loss of his QB’s and canned all of them and the GM went out via the draft and free agency and rebuilt the dam thing in one season.
    What Mike dont like, mike gets fixed.
    They have a great situation. Teddy was coming along nicely, Bradford is nice insurance and good trade bait and Keenum can also bring some nice picks if the team wants to move low in the draft to get a new back up to Teddy and solidify the future.

  45. @Teddy @Thunderclap

    I just wanted to stop and commend you both for how well you’re handling this. I think you’ve grown a lot as fans. Just one more little piece of advice – watch your behavior a little bit in the future it/when your team achieves some success. If you do, I think you’ll see that others react much more favorably.

    #WARRIORShaveperspective

  46. Viking fans not happy little campers. Woman on the news last night ranting how they spent big money to go to Philly only to have the team not show up. In addition word is Vike fans want to unload their super bowl tickets as in why would we want to be there?

  47. a small body of work with Zimmer. Two playoff loses and one victory but almost choked. I think two years max this guy has before we see results as far as playoff victories and Super Bowl appearances OR ELSE! So far getting the Vikings back in the playoff circle is completed now its time not to curl up and die like the conference championship.

  48. Derek Anderson had a magic year throwing to Braylon Edwards and the Browns thought he was the man. Keenum is a mirage, just like Anderson was. Bradford and Bridgewater belong with the Buccaneers, since they both have peg legs.

  49. Welp….Goggles Potbelly will have his hands full. Figuring out the quarterback seems to be the least of his problems. The focus might begin with why the defense didn’t show up last Sunday. The famed Mike Zimmer defense was man handled up front and was consistently out of position on the back end.

    Second, I’d look at the tape to see the offensive line getting dominated by the Eagles defense front four. I’d be asking myself what happens with Kyle Rudolph and where does he go during big games. There has to be some way to create a mismatch with him.

    Third, Goggles Potbelly should really have to figure out how he didn’t have this team prepared to play in this game. It must be hard to come back from an emotional win like they did against the Saints; but good teams need to overcome big wins and move on. He,s the leader and he’s got to lead.

  50. The same thing will happen to the Vikings that happened to the Seahawks….now you finally ate going to have to pay a Quarteback…..for a decent one it is going to run you 15 to 18 million….upwards of 22 million for a good one…..look what happened to Seattle……pay a top notch QB money you have to take that at first from the back end of your roster….when injuries happen your now playing street free agents instead if middle round draft picks….the Vikings overlooked the Eagles…..they thought they were in the Superbowl bowl, just a formality against Nick Files….the team laid as big an egg as it ever had, and for all the great CHokes in Vikings history that’s saying something…..

  51. The many well thought-out observations from the respondents on this thread by far outweigh the off-the-cuff stupidity of a few others, and made it an enjoyable morning read. Unfortunately, whatever decision the Vikings make at QB, which one they keep and which they let go, an early season injury effecting the team’s fortunes will bring out the usual suspects of whiners and critics that the wrong choice was made. What is the most logical choice now may not look like it after six weeks into the season.

    The other thing is the number of times it’s been mentioned that no other team has ever had to face the decision of having to choose between to two top-tier quarterbacks, and I immediately think of the Montana-Young choice the 49ers faced. Personnel issues of this type, especially in the age of salary cap, will be a continuous and unavoidable issue.

  52. Far too much negativism from Viking fans on this season. While I would have liked to have seen Zimmer address the breakdown of his defense during the NFC championship, some perspective is needed, including at the QB position.

    After four weeks of the 2017 season, the Vikings were sitting at 2-2, and had lost their starting QB and best RB. Week 5 brought Bradford back to the starting lineup, only to show that he wasn’t ready to play. Keenum came off the bench, led the comeback to win that game, and lead the Vikings on an 11-1 run to finish the season. Keenum played at a consistently high-level during this time, while the defense played consistently solid football. Keenum has earned the right to the starting job until someone better can be found to out-perform him. Yes, he didn’t play his best game against the Eagles, but the same can be said for the most of the roster. I get the QB questions about the Vikings, but Keenum had the best year at QB for the Vikings since Brett Favre in 2009.

    The real question that needs to be answered is why the defense didn’t adjust to stop what was, up until that time under Nick Foles, was an extremely anemic offense. Mike Zimmer is a well respected coach, and a 13-3 season is nothing to be discarded lightly, but the failure to perform when it mattered most in the postseason is a question I’d like to see him address.

  53. I’ve seen on twitter that some Vikings fans are planning events to throw things at Eagles fans before and after the Super Bowl.

    You guys sure are in a class all by yourselves…

  54. Looks like some Vikes fans have woken up and smelled the coffee, don’t ya know.
    Seems like that wonderful QB situation is quite a pickle, eh?

  55. 13xworldchamps says:
    January 23, 2018 at 2:14 pm

    The same thing will happen to the Vikings that happened to the Seahawks….now you finally ate going to have to pay a Quarteback…..for a decent one it is going to run you 15 to 18 million….upwards of 22 million for a good one…..look what happened to Seattle……pay a top notch QB money you have to take that at first from the back end of your roster….when injuries happen your now playing street free agents instead if middle round draft picks…
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    This is a myth perpetuated by fans of teams with a highly paid quarterback and no depth (copyright the Green Bay Packers). Sam Bradford made $18 million this year and the rest of the roster looked just fine. Say what you want about the Vikings, but they are excellent at managing the salary cap. If they decide they want to pay someone big money this year, it won’t be that much more than what Bradford made this year. In fact, I think they could bring Keenum back for less.

  56. Carl Gerbschmidt says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:50 pm

    @Teddy @Thunderclap

    I just wanted to stop and commend you both for how well you’re handling this. I think you’ve grown a lot as fans. Just one more little piece of advice – watch your behavior a little bit in the future it/when your team achieves some success. If you do, I think you’ll see that others react much more favorably.

    #WARRIORShaveperspective
    _________

    Funny stuff. I’m not going to rip my team just so you, stellar, and cabbage like me more. I speak the truth, favorable or unfavorable to my team.

    Now maybe I can give you a piece of advice. Your team was exposed this year and finished in third place at 7-9. The Lions looked like world beaters compared to your team. It took overtime for your team to beat the Browns. Maybe see if you can find just an ounce of humility during the offseason.

  57. hardheadedrb says:
    January 23, 2018 at 11:23 am
    The defense will be fine, you don’t get exposed after 16.5 games. They shut NO out for a half, and future HOF’er Brees has 2 drives of 30 and 40 yards to score TD’s in the second half …

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    Very good point. It’s encouraging to see there are still a few people with any football acumen still posting.

  58. In Teddy We Trust says:
    January 23, 2018 at 2:57 pm

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    This is a myth perpetuated by fans of teams with a highly paid quarterback and no depth (copyright the Green Bay Packers). Sam Bradford made $18 million this year and the rest of the roster looked just fine. Say what you want about the Vikings, but they are excellent at managing the salary cap. If they decide they want to pay someone big money this year, it won’t be that much more than what Bradford made this year. In fact, I think they could bring Keenum back for less.

    \\\\\\\

    So you paid Sammy 18 million this year for a middle of the road QB?

    And you don’t think That won’t be the benchmark going forward?

    To your point Aaron Rodgers cost the packers around 13.5 Million this year. Pretty cheap considering he’s a HOF QB. I would find another example of a team in salary cap hell because of the QB.

    Good luck finding the QB to get you over the hump for less than that. Unless mediocrity is your goal.

  59. When the dust of the Minnesota Massacre settles, I suggest all of the hardened trolls on both sides of the border make a truce. This forum has become the most toxic public forum in all the land, and hardly representative of either teams’ fan bases. Maybe the mods should take a more balanced approach to filtering comments and do away with the silly and trite usernames, mocking other teams and players. Friendly banter and ribbing is one thing – sickening comments and untruths is just intolerable in this day and age.

  60. Vegas is very concerned about your comments as Minnesota is third choice in 2019 odds at 10-1 for the Super Bowl.

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    coachkilla6 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 10:59 am
    The window for the Vikings is officially shut.

  61. andrwken says:
    January 23, 2018 at 3:11 pm
    In Teddy We Trust says:
    January 23, 2018 at 2:57 pm

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    This is a myth perpetuated by fans of teams with a highly paid quarterback and no depth (copyright the Green Bay Packers). Sam Bradford made $18 million this year and the rest of the roster looked just fine. Say what you want about the Vikings, but they are excellent at managing the salary cap. If they decide they want to pay someone big money this year, it won’t be that much more than what Bradford made this year. In fact, I think they could bring Keenum back for less.

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    So you paid Sammy 18 million this year for a middle of the road QB?

    And you don’t think That won’t be the benchmark going forward?

    To your point Aaron Rodgers cost the packers around 13.5 Million this year

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    With current QB signings Rodgers will cost the packers around 28-30 million a year. Enjoy the bargain price of 13.5 million this year.

  62. That’s what I get for trying to be nice.

    I’ll just leave this right here. Vikes have a serious QB problem. Keenum is a journeyman QB at best, but you will probably end up franchising him and paying him in the neighborhood of $18-20 million next year. And nobody will blame you because you have no choice.

    Case is not the answer. He may have saved your season, but his performances were very
    uneven except for a pretty good stretch in November. Bradford is clearly done and Teddy most likely will have a very hard time fully recovering from his injury. And, in any case was pretty average before the injury.

    Your overly aggressive defense with Rhodes constant holding and numerous players taking cheap shots (including Rhodes regularly hitting people out of bounds) will only get you so far. And certainly will not get you to the Super Bowl.

    #EnjoytheSeason

  63. Let’s just look at the facts.

    The Vikings choked.

    Rodgers? Hurt
    Wentz? Hurt

    I mean, even Tom Brady has a problem with his hand.

    It was handed to you. Literally handed to you.

    And you choked harder than any team that I can remember.

  64. As so often is the case, many conversations in the comments section here veer well away from the topic at hand and turn into a dumpster fire. I suggest all of the hardened trolls on both sides of the border make a truce. This forum has become the most toxic public forum in all the land, and hardly representative of either teams’ fan bases. I suggest a more balanced approach to filtering comments and do away with the silly and trite usernames, mocking other teams and players. Friendly ribbing is one thing – insults and untruths should be intolerable.

  65. The smart thing to do would be to not overpay a quarterback. The Vikings have no idea what they have for quarterbacks. Was Keenum the reason they won 13 games? Figure that out. If they overpay players they won’t be able to afford to keep the decent players they need to make it all work. See Seattle and their cap situation for an example of what not to do.

  66. Bring back Ponder.

    Only because you know they will show his wife on TV a good 6 or 7 times during the game.

  67. flviking says:
    January 23, 2018 at 3:19 pm

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    With current QB signings Rodgers will cost the packers around 28-30 million a year. Enjoy the bargain price of 13.5 million this year.

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    Apples to apples comparison for this year. That does not count how much Bridgewater and Keenum cost you ( another 3.5 million).

    When Rodgers signs an extension, feel free to let me know what a bad deal it is. For now, Hundley pushes the Packers just over 14 million. The vikings are at around 21 million for 3 QB’s.

    Having all 3 was probably worth it due to the success they had with Keenum.

    The original post was the stone thrown about the Packers highly paid QB and had no depth.

    Hardly factual. You guys paid more for your QB play.

  68. steves11 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:03 pm
    The NFC Championship loss wasn’t Keenum’s fault and I don’t think that the Vikings came out flat. What I think is that they ran into a team that played it’s best game all season at just the right time. Nick Foles was Superman in that game. He’s NEVER played like that before. It was unfortunate for the Vikings but they have to regroup and come back strong next season. First they have to figure out who their quarterback is going to be.

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    I think the 2013 Raiders would disagree with that statement. Foles put up 7 TDs in only 3 quarters against them. He had a pretty good year overall setting the single season TD vs Int record (27-2) that Brady later broke.

  69. you guys can sign Tyrod Taylor… He and Teddy make a solid one two punch..no dropoff if one gets hurt.

  70. In Teddy We Trust says:
    January 23, 2018 at 3:03 pm

    Funny stuff. I’m not going to rip my team just so you, stellar, and cabbage like me more. I speak the truth, favorable or unfavorable to my team.
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    No worries there. I’ve seen you go slightly sane several times and then revert to hopping up and down with the rest of the purples. Enjoy your hopping.

  71. andrwken says:
    January 23, 2018 at 3:11 pm

    So you paid Sammy 18 million this year for a middle of the road QB?

    And you don’t think That won’t be the benchmark going forward?

    To your point Aaron Rodgers cost the packers around 13.5 Million this year. Pretty cheap considering he’s a HOF QB. I would find another example of a team in salary cap hell because of the QB.

    Good luck finding the QB to get you over the hump for less than that. Unless mediocrity is your goal.
    _________

    Looks like you’re trying to perpetuate another myth. Rodgers base salary for 2017 was $12.55 million with roster and workout bonuses that brought it to $13.65 million. What you fail to consider is that his signing bonus is spread out over the length of the contract for salary cap purposes. That brings his cap hit to $20.3 million.

    That’s still only $2.3 million more than what Bradford made. So what is the excuse for the Packers’ utter lack of talent beyond Rodgers?

  72. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    January 23, 2018 at 4:38 pm
    In Teddy We Trust says:
    January 23, 2018 at 3:03 pm

    Funny stuff. I’m not going to rip my team just so you, stellar, and cabbage like me more. I speak the truth, favorable or unfavorable to my team.
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    No worries there. I’ve seen you go slightly sane several times and then revert to hopping up and down with the rest of the purples. Enjoy your hopping.
    _________

    According to you, I’m sane when I criticize the Vikings and hopping up and down when I say good things about the Vikings. As a fan of the team, I’m going to tend toward the positive, just like you. I won’t call you insane if you say something nice about your team so I’d appreciate it if you would extend me the same courtesy.

  73. contra74 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 11:43 am

    The Minnesota Vikings: Nothing to show for 57 freaking years — but abject failure.

    That is the definition of suck.

  74. Nope. You’re sane when you actually talk objectively, which is rare. When you hop up and down, which the norm, I show you some facts and you come completely unhinged. Every time. If the simple, honest, actual facts don’t match up with what’s in your head, the problem is not with the facts.

  75. Did anyone on this board see the epic choke the Barneys served up to the Eagles last Sunday?
    It was truly a thing of beauty.
    Purple isn’t just a team color, it’s a Viking ritual!

  76. In Teddy We Trust says:
    January 23, 2018 at 5:03 pm
    andrwken says:
    January 23, 2018 at 3:11 pm

    So you paid Sammy 18 million this year for a middle of the road QB?

    And you don’t think That won’t be the benchmark going forward?

    To your point Aaron Rodgers cost the packers around 13.5 Million this year. Pretty cheap considering he’s a HOF QB. I would find another example of a team in salary cap hell because of the QB.

    Good luck finding the QB to get you over the hump for less than that. Unless mediocrity is your goal.
    _________

    Looks like you’re trying to perpetuate another myth. Rodgers base salary for 2017 was $12.55 million with roster and workout bonuses that brought it to $13.65 million. What you fail to consider is that his signing bonus is spread out over the length of the contract for salary cap purposes. That brings his cap hit to $20.3 million.

    That’s still only $2.3 million more than what Bradford made. So what is the excuse for the Packers’ utter lack of talent beyond Rodgers?

    ————

    Poorly managed football team from coach to GM last year. Its why a lot of people are out of work in GB.

    Nice deflection though, you brought up salary numbers. We can go calculate signing bonuses for the vikngs qbs, or even the amount of draft picks spent if you want. You made the comment that the Packers grossly overspent on the QB and the rest of the team is lacking talent. I would say the QB is quite a value than the retreads you guys are tolling for the money. Dont forget all those draft picks….

  77. That blow out and shear destruction of our defense by nick freaking Foles is the major cause for concern if you ask me. Did NOT see that coming. Pathetic. And they made no adjustments at halftime and simply QUIT after being down 31-7 very early in the 3rd. That’s coaching.

  78. The ONLY CHOICE is Keenum. You’d be stupid to break the continuity he brought to the teams offense. And this is coming from a Packer fan. And I’m not playing the biased card nor being sarcastic. You can’t deny the man his due. He earned it.

  79. So you paid Sammy 18 million this year for a middle of the road QB?

    And you don’t think That won’t be the benchmark going forward?

    To your point Aaron Rodgers cost the packers around 13.5 Million this year. Pretty cheap considering he’s a HOF QB. I would find another example of a team in salary cap hell because of the QB.

    Good luck finding the QB to get you over the hump for less than that. Unless mediocrity is your goal.
    _________

    Looks like you’re trying to perpetuate another myth. Rodgers base salary for 2017 was $12.55 million with roster and workout bonuses that brought it to $13.65 million. What you fail to consider is that his signing bonus is spread out over the length of the contract for salary cap purposes. That brings his cap hit to $20.3 million.

    That’s still only $2.3 million more than what Bradford made. So what is the excuse for the Packers’ utter lack of talent beyond Rodgers?

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    The Packers lack of talent is lousy GM work, the price you pay for an elite qb, the price you pay for being successful (drafting late- 8 years in a row in the playoffs) and you’re reaping the benefit of finding young talent on the cheap which is to your benefit are the answers. The downside is that young talent (your WRs by way of example) eventually will want to get paid and you will have to make decisions because you cannot keep everyone. With that comes the trade off of losing other people. The Vikings will start facing that this offseason. You’ll have to pick a QB because you’re likely not going to be able to keep Keenum, Bradford and Teddy. Do you feel Keenum is now elite and worth the tag or the 17-18 mil per year he’s probably gonna get? Do you bring Bradford back instead knowing he’ll want a big payday and not knowing about his knee? What about Tedd? I’ll still take the elite QB any day of the week as would you if you’re being honest because they tilt the field in their favor more than any position can do and that will put you in the mix each year as evidenced by 8 years in a row in the playoffs. Our problem is our strength, Rodgers, got hurt. He’ll be back next year. Your problem is two fold. You still don’t have the elite QB and you just saw your defense get torched the last 6 quarters of the season; 4 by Nick Foles.

  80. I think the Vikings blew their best chance for a Super Bowl but they came out flat against the Eagles. The game would have been at home, Rodgers was hurt most of the year and their QB situation was dictated by injuries. Next year they’ll have a 1st place schedule, whereas this year was a 3rd place schedule, a QB controversy, Rodgers will be back, they play the Rams, Seahawks, Patriots, Eagles along with the Packers on the road and they’re losing their OC. That is a tough road schedule with a new OC in what will be a much a tougher division than it was this year. The Bears, Packers and Lions should be better and I doubt they’ll win it. With the “Minnesota Miracle” it looked like the Vikings thought the Eagles would rollover for them b/c they were destined to win the Super Bowl at home.

  81. My take is the the D was just outcoached and Shurmer had already left. Letting that tackle have to come across the line which caused the fumble was a killer. How could you leave an empty backfield and not at least chip before going out? And the D coach I think underestimated Philly as Foles has done this before & after a few games to shake the rust off he balled.

  82. In Teddy We Trust says:
    January 23, 2018 at 12:29 pm
    Drew Brees is a pipe dream. The Saints have no reason to let him leave and he has no reason to leave. Don’t waste time thinking about it.

    38 7 Rate This
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    I was going to give this a thumbs up but I didn’t want to mess with the total: 38 up. 7 down. Perfect.

  83. The Almighty Cabbage says:
    January 23, 2018 at 5:16 pm

    Nope. You’re sane when you actually talk objectively, which is rare. When you hop up and down, which the norm, I show you some facts and you come completely unhinged. Every time. If the simple, honest, actual facts don’t match up with what’s in your head, the problem is not with the facts.
    _______

    For example…?

  84. Mike Zimmer should be embarrassed his team – supposedly laden with talent everywhere – failed to show up in Philly. Vikings wont take the next step with Zim at the helm. That is both my opinion and my prediction.

  85. andrwken says:
    January 23, 2018 at 5:34 pm
    In Teddy We Trust says:
    January 23, 2018 at 5:03 pm
    andrwken says:
    January 23, 2018 at 3:11 pm

    So you paid Sammy 18 million this year for a middle of the road QB?

    And you don’t think That won’t be the benchmark going forward?

    To your point Aaron Rodgers cost the packers around 13.5 Million this year. Pretty cheap considering he’s a HOF QB. I would find another example of a team in salary cap hell because of the QB.

    Good luck finding the QB to get you over the hump for less than that. Unless mediocrity is your goal.
    _________

    Looks like you’re trying to perpetuate another myth. Rodgers base salary for 2017 was $12.55 million with roster and workout bonuses that brought it to $13.65 million. What you fail to consider is that his signing bonus is spread out over the length of the contract for salary cap purposes. That brings his cap hit to $20.3 million.

    That’s still only $2.3 million more than what Bradford made. So what is the excuse for the Packers’ utter lack of talent beyond Rodgers?

    ————

    Poorly managed football team from coach to GM last year. Its why a lot of people are out of work in GB.

    Nice deflection though, you brought up salary numbers. We can go calculate signing bonuses for the vikngs qbs, or even the amount of draft picks spent if you want. You made the comment that the Packers grossly overspent on the QB and the rest of the team is lacking talent. I would say the QB is quite a value than the retreads you guys are tolling for the money. Dont forget all those draft picks….
    _________

    That is completely false. I did not bring up salary numbers; I was replying to someone else who said teams with high-salaried quarterbacks can’t afford to have depth. I did not say the Packers grossly overspent on the QB; I corrected your inaccurate statement about how much Rodgers was making. I said that it’s a myth that you can’t have a talented team if you spend a lot on a quarterback. Try to keep up.

  86. In Teddy We Trust says:
    January 23, 2018 at 2:57 pm

    ________

    This is a myth perpetuated by fans of teams with a highly paid quarterback and no depth.(copyright the Green Bay Packers)

    ————

    You cant even remember what you post so try and keep up.

    Rodgers numbers are not high based on what qb’s are currently getting. Your argument was off base and a cheap shot, which you then now defend and deflect.

    You seem a little crabby. Rough weekend?

  87. What else is Zimmer gonna say? He says the same thing about literally every position. If you watch the entire press conference, which I did, he said the same thing about several positions. Plus, neither Keenum, Bridgewater, or Bradford are under contract…if Zimmer anointed ANY of them the starter, Spielman loses all leverage in a negotiation. The QB starter, unless on a rookie contract, will make big bucks, given the market for starting QBs. Comparing Aaron Rodgers’ several year old contract to what Keenum might make, or what Bradford made when the Vikings traded for him is irrelevant. Rodgers will get his money, as he should, I think he’s the best QB in the League.

    I don’t know where this will go, or, should go, but, Bridgewater is an injury risk (Zimmer highlights the historical statistics of his brutal injury), Bradford can sling it, but, can’t stay healthy…Keenum showed ability as a leader and a QB capable of winning…with a good defense. To me, anything is possible at the position and Zimmer, Spielman, and the coaches will indeed, work through the evaluation process.

  88. In Teddy We Trust says:
    January 23, 2018 at 6:55 pm
    The Almighty Cabbage says:
    January 23, 2018 at 5:16 pm

    Nope. You’re sane when you actually talk objectively, which is rare. When you hop up and down, which the norm, I show you some facts and you come completely unhinged. Every time. If the simple, honest, actual facts don’t match up with what’s in your head, the problem is not with the facts.
    _______

    For example…?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Do you really want to go there? I’ve been giving you a pass but apparently you felt the need to bring me into the conversation. At the moment, your delusions are being picked apart quite well by others so I’ll let them have their fun with you… unless you really want me to run you outta here crying… again. I’ll check back in a little later.

  89. The precedent has been set: Minnesota has already been led to the Super Bowl by one CFL quarterback (Joe Kapp); now let’s go for two:

    Sign Manziel

    Do it, Zimmer; Do it, if you’ve got the guts-

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