Tom Brady closing in on 10,000 career postseason passing yards

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Patriots quarterback Tom Brady has thrown for at least 280 yards in eight consecutive postseason games. Which means that in Super Bowl LII, he’s likely to do something totally unprecedented: Surpass 10,000 career postseason passing yards.

Brady has thrown for 9,721 passing yards in the postseason in his NFL career. That’s by far the most in NFL history. Peyton Manning, at 7,339 career postseason passing yards, is next, and more than 2,000 yards behind Brady.

If Brady manages 279 yards in the Super Bowl against the Eagles, he’ll reach 10,000 postseason passing yards in his career, a total that may never be approached again.

After Brady, the active player with the next-most career postseason passing yards is Ben Roethlisberger, with 5,256. Given that Roethlisberger is barely halfway to 10,000 and is already 35 years old and musing about retirement, it’s highly unlikely that he’ll reach 10,000.

Next among active passers is Aaron Rodgers, at 4,458. Rodgers may have several more postseason appearances ahead of him, but it’s hard to believe that, at age 34, he has more than 5,000 passing yards in the postseason.

Drew Brees is next after Rodgers on the career postseason passing yardage list. Brees is even older than Roethlisberger, so he’s no threat to catch Brady.

Among active players under 30, Russell Wilson is the active leader with 2,777 career postseason passing yards. He might have the best chance of any active player to reach 10,000, but even Wilson, who will turn 30 this year, seems awfully unlikely to have more than 7,000 career postseason passing yards left in him.

So Brady’s career postseason passing yardage record may simply be unbreakable. Or, if it’s ever going to be broken, it’s going to be many years from now, by someone who’s not even in the league yet.

208 responses to “Tom Brady closing in on 10,000 career postseason passing yards

  1. That is one heck of a statistic.

    As I have said before, it is difficult to anoint a player in most any sport the best of all time. Rules change too often, making the eras in which they played in so much different that it is hard to compare success. Having said that Brady is easily the best of this generation and certainly in the discussion for the best QB, and player in any a sport…all time.

  2. Add in all those First-round byes that he did NOT get a chance to throw ~300 yards/game in and it truly is a remarkable record of being a winner and performing when it matters most.

  3. …So Brady’s career postseason passing yardage record may simply be unbreakable. Or, if it’s ever going to be broken, it’s going to be many years from now, by someone who’s not even in the league yet.
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    Most of Brady’s post-season QB records can probably not be touched by anyone currently in the league.

    The good news for Brady haters is that includes his record for most passes intercepted (currently 31); although Big Ben is not too far behind at 24.

  4. Anyone who still claims Brady isn’t the GOAT is just pure salt at this stage. The only debate now is whether he’s the greatest ever of any sport.

    And as Simms said, you could see Brady’s throws weren’t as tight or spiraling as normal but he still made them depsite 12 stitches around his throwing thumb, despite missing most of his practice time and despite throwing against a top defense. At 40, and likely to play 2 to 5yrs. He can punt well too so I hope he does a Blanda and transitions to punter/backup QB and plays til he’s 50, just so that we can enjoy more childish salt from these threads for a few more years.

    Thanks TB.

  5. That stat should shut up all the dimwits who continue to believe the “cheating” nonsense.
    Wait…maybe not….even the science that most people learned about in 7th grade could not convince dimwits to stop believing in nonsense.

  6. Although it’s quite an achievement, I don’t think Tom cares about this at all. The only thing he cares about is winning and getting #6 on his hand. That why he is, and forever will be, the GOAT. Those other guys mentioned aren’t even in the same league as Brady. Pretty soon Brady will need two hands to fit all of his championship rings.

    #6ringsdeep #needtwohands #GOAT

  7. patriots123456 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 12:43 pm

    Not bad for a system QB…LOL

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    There are 31 system quarterbacks in the NFL and none of them are named “Brady”. Bruce Lee didn’t believe in systems and the Patriots are the only team in the NFL that doesn’t have a system. NFL. The patriots adapt to their opponents. Was great watching the Patriots adjust to what the Jaguars were doing when the Patriots turned that game around. The Patriots are the Bruce Lee of the NFL.

  8. Cut Brady’s career in half as pre-ACL injury and post-ACL injury and he’s a HOF shoe-in twice. In fact, either half of his career exceeds Big Ben, Brees, Rogers and Farve, and stack’s up pretty well vs Peyton Manning.

  9. It seems a little early to be resorting to troll chum but thanks for waving the flag at them. 36 games, Brady has 2.25 seasons worth of playoff stats just amazing what we have watched. Time to stop comparing Brady to other modern era football players. No one will ever touch Bill Russell but he is in DiMaggio/Jordan/Gretzky territory.

  10. walker1191 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 12:58 pm

    Cut Brady’s career in half as pre-ACL injury and post-ACL injury and he’s a HOF shoe-in twice. In fact, either half of his career exceeds Big Ben, Brees, Rogers and Farve, and stack’s up pretty well vs Peyton Manning.

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    Rich Hill from Pats Pulpit actually did a great piece in September about Brady potentially having 3 separate HOF careers. Third one started this season.

  11. Brady will retire with postseason records the equivalent of Joe DiMaggio’s 56 game hitting streak or Cy Young’s 511 career wins. Utterly untouchable by mortals, even if football is played 100 more years.

  12. There are 31 system quarterbacks in the NFL and none of them are named “Brady”. Bruce Lee didn’t believe in systems and the Patriots are the only team in the NFL that doesn’t have a system. NFL. The patriots adapt to their opponents. Was great watching the Patriots adjust to what the Jaguars were doing when the Patriots turned that game around. The Patriots are the Bruce Lee of the NFL.

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    I think the refs turned that game around and made the adjustment on the forced fumble that should have been returned for a td. Also the pi on uncatchable ball at the end of the first half. It’s pretty easy to make adjustments when the refs kill the other teams momentum. Just like the titans game with bogus pi and other penalties. Then the bills (no td) before. Then the Steelers game Jesse James td and James Conner 9 yard run with phantom holding call. Those were all momentum killers that potentially decided games. So yeah great adjustment calling refs in.

  13. Russell Wilson’s team is on a downward slide. He cannot add to his postseason total in 2017 and may not add any more yards next year either. Carson Wentz, Marcus Mariota and Jared Goff may surpass Wilson before long. Another QB who has a shot would be Andrew Luck, if he can recover from his injury.

  14. patriots6ringsdeep says:
    January 23, 2018 at 12:55 pm

    Pretty soon Brady will need two hands to fit all of his championship rings.

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    Isn’t that why Brady had a 6th finger surgically attached to his right hand last week?

  15. lifetimefan says:
    January 23, 2018 at 12:45 pm
    That is one heck of a statistic.
    As I have said before, it is difficult to anoint a player in most any sport the best of all time. Rules change too often, making the eras in which they played in so much different that it is hard to compare success. Having said that Brady is easily the best of this generation and certainly in the discussion for the best QB, and player in any a sport…all time.


    IMO, that is why only wins and rings matter when you compare across eras. You can’t compare stats for obvious reasons. But you can definitely compare rings and wins. No matter what era a win always means the same thing – you led your team to beat the other team and their QB who is also playing by the same rules in that era.

    It’s easier for Brady to get yards in this era vs the days of Marino, Montana, Bradshaw, Harris, Unitas and so on. But it’s no easier to get wins or rings. Wins and rings are where it’s at.

    🙂

  16. My view is that Belicheck is the greatest coach of all time. Brady – I’d like to see him win without BB. The last two wins were gift-wrapped by coaches who couldn’t keep it together. You can put Martz’s play-calling in there as well.

    The recent discussion in a blog about today’s teams – you either have a great QB or a great team but not both. Up until the 1992/93 free agency era, the top 3-5 teams were excellent year after year. Hasn’t been like that since the end of the Dallas/Green Bay/SF/Buffalo/Houston/Denver rotation in the 90s. I’ll put Brady in the top echelon with Montana, Unitas, Elway. But until he wins without BB, no.

  17. psteelfan1 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:10 pm

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    I think the refs turned that game around and made the adjustment on the forced fumble that should have been returned for a td.

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    The referees handed the Jaguars an undeserved fumble recovery in order to cheat the Patriots. Lewis was laying on the ground with the football pinned against his hip. He was in contact with the Jaguars defender so the play should have been over and no fumble.

    All football fans understand that a player doesn’t need both hands or to have the center of the football to be in possession of the football. We all remember when helmet catch (Tyree) pinned the football to his helmet. Football fans also remember when (Baldwin) pinned a football to his leg. The referees awarded both of them possession.

    But now when the referees are trying to cheat the Patriots they don’t let Lewis pin the football to his hip and award him with possession of the football. The football never hit the ground and was not in the air so it can’t be a fumble while Lewis has it pinned to his hip.

  18. Greatness or Hateness. It’s never to late to join the party. I gotta tell ya, it’s a lot of fun. Just imagine…every single year for the last 17 years, I’ve been given real opportunity to witness my teams crack at world championships. It’s been so satisfying that you have to jump on. There are teenagers that have never seen anything other than Patriot dominance. Incredible!

  19. psteelfan1 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:10 pm

    and James Conner 9 yard run with phantom holding call.
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    Is this what it’s come to? A desperate Steeler fan who is describing a play that no one else saw or remembers, and highlighting it as evidence of some vast conspiracy?

    So please explain why the refs picked up the flag in the 1st half where the Steelers scored and had o-linemen illegally downfield? Why would they pick that flag up?

  20. psteelfan1 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:10 pm

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    Also the pi on uncatchable ball at the end of the first half.

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    The best way not to get called for PI is to not put your hands on the receiver in order to push the receiver out of bounds. You really want games to be decided by referees deciding who is or who isn’t able to make catches after players are allowed to be interfered with?

  21. psteelfan1 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:10 pm
    There are 31 system quarterbacks in the NFL and none of them are named “Brady”. Bruce Lee didn’t believe in systems and the Patriots are the only team in the NFL that doesn’t have a system. NFL. The patriots adapt to their opponents. Was great watching the Patriots adjust to what the Jaguars were doing when the Patriots turned that game around. The Patriots are the Bruce Lee of the NFL.

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    I think the refs turned that game around and made the adjustment on the forced fumble that should have been returned for a td. Also the pi on uncatchable ball at the end of the first half. It’s pretty easy to make adjustments when the refs kill the other teams momentum. Just like the titans game with bogus pi and other penalties. Then the bills (no td) before. Then the Steelers game Jesse James td and James Conner 9 yard run with phantom holding call. Those were all momentum killers that potentially decided games. So yeah great adjustment calling refs in.
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    How about trying to create your own momentum by not taking a knee with 55 sec left in the half!

  22. boz4commish says:
    January 23, 2018 at 12:56 pm

    Let’s not overlook the fact that Johnny Manziel is still only 25, and only 9,721 yards behind.
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    I don’t remember seeing John E. Football taking any snaps in the postseason.

  23. Q: Which NFL QB has as an 11-2 postseason record, averaging 63% completions on 52 attempts per game, for 400 yards, 23 interrupts and 10 interceptions?

    A: None, but Tom Brady would … if you subtracted Joe Montana’s post-season stats from his…

  24. Man if every Great franchise could just play in the AFC east against that horrid competition. That gifts first round byes and two homes games to get to the Superbowl like its there job.

  25. Remember the quaint Brady vs. Manning debate of about 10 years ago? Funny to think it was even seriously discussed, now, but it was settled in Brady’s favor.

    Then remember the quaint Brady vs. Montana GOAT debate? It was settled in Brady’s favor.

    What’s left? Brady vs. the COMBINATION of Montana and Young? It also is settled in Brady’s favor.

    Brady vs. the COMBINATION of Montana and Manning, or Elway and Manning, or Montana and Elway?

    Closer, I guess, but it appears that Brady will lap the field in accomplishments even of any TWO other QBs, at least in postseason records.

    He may also own about all the regular season records, if he plays to 45, like he wants

  26. How many times has Brady played against a team as good as the 80s Bears, Redskins or Belichick Giants?

    magnumpimustache says:
    January 23, 2018 at 12:46 pm
    How many one and dones does Montana have?

    How many times was he benched in Playoff games?

  27. I am a certified Patriots hater, ever since the knocked out my 14-2 chargers in the playoffs and danced on our logo after the game.

    BUT cannot deny Brady’s greatness. Its truly amazing and hard not to route for at this stage in his career

  28. trentdilfer08 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:29 pm
    Man if every Great franchise could just play in the AFC east against that horrid competition. That gifts first round byes and two homes games to get to the Superbowl like its there job.

    Sorry that excuse was debunked long ago.

    The Patriots have just about the same win % OUTSIDE the division
    Wich is more impressive since they play more games outside the division and play a first place schedule.

    Next excuse….

  29. Brady wins with a roster that turns due to free agency and injury. I would like to see stats on all of the teammates Brady has had in his career. He must have set records despite playing for one team. Certainly, he has set a playoff record for teammates with possibly Vinatieri having more because he changed teams.

    How about the numbers of different players he has completed a pass to in the regular season and playoffs. Everyone of them must have great memories. When I think of slant receivers I think of Brown, Welker, Edelman, Amendola; all great players that could be in the Patriots ring of honor.

  30. The haters don’t care. They’ll say he cheated for 9,999 of them.

    It’s impossible to say who the greatest QB in the history of the NFL is because it’s simply unfair to compare different eras. But if you look at the history of the NFL objectively, this is a list of great QB’s who are worthy of being recognized as the best of their eras:
    1920’s — Paddy Driscoll
    1930’s — Arnie Herber
    1940’s — Sammie Baugh, Sid Luckman, Bob Waterfield
    1950’s — Otto Graham, Bobby Layne, Norm Van Brocklin
    1960’s — Johnny Unitas, Bart Starr
    1970’s — Terry Bradshaw, Roger Staubach
    1980’s — Joe Montana, Dan Marino, Dan Fouts
    1990’s — John Elway, Brett Favre, Troy Aikman
    2000’s — Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers

    If I had just one QB from any era to choose in one big game, I’d take Johnny Unitas. He was the closest thing to perfection I ever saw in an era when QB’s got smashed almost every time they threw the ball.

    If you look at what Sammy Baugh did as a QB, defensive back, and punter during his era, it is a fact that he dominated his era greater than any QB dominated theirs. So Baugh has as much claim to being called the greatest QB whoever played as anyone, in my opinion. Baugh is the father of the passing game in the NFL, there is no debate about that. He is tied with Steve Young as leading the league in passing the most times (six) and still holds the record for leading the league with the lowest interception percentage (5). Baugh held 13 records in passing, punting, and as a DB at the time of his retirement.

  31. Psteelerfan1: seriously, you still don’t understand what a catch is or what constitutes pass interference? I thought Pittsburgh fans were supposed to be football smart? Guess not !

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    Yeah and Jesse James caught it. The rule says survive initial contact with the ground which if I’m not mistaken a knee is a part of the body, no? Also the ball was not catchable so how was it pi? Like I always hear them say let them play! But of course different rules apply when patriots are playing. The refs seem to call penalties at just the right time to kill the other teams momentum. Let’s see I’m pretty sure Al Riveron ruled every controversial review in the patriots favor this year giving them games and thus home field throughout the playoffs.

  32. “I think the refs turned that game around and made the adjustment on the forced fumble that should have been returned for a td. Also the pi on uncatchable ball at the end of the first half. ”

    The “fumble” that most refs would have called Lewis down by contact on, that one?

    And the reason the ball was “uncatchable” was that the Jags defender pushed Cooks out of bounds. Not only is pushing a receiver like that PI after 5 yards from the LOS, but its also unsportsmanlike conduct penalty to push someone out of bounds

  33. psteelfan1 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:10 pm
    There are 31 system quarterbacks in the NFL and none of them are named “Brady”. Bruce Lee didn’t believe in systems and the Patriots are the only team in the NFL that doesn’t have a system. NFL. The patriots adapt to their opponents. Was great watching the Patriots adjust to what the Jaguars were doing when the Patriots turned that game around. The Patriots are the Bruce Lee of the NFL.

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    I think the refs turned that game around and made the adjustment on the forced fumble that should have been returned for a td. Also the pi on uncatchable ball at the end of the first half. It’s pretty easy to make adjustments when the refs kill the other teams momentum. Just like the titans game with bogus pi and other penalties. Then the bills (no td) before. Then the Steelers game Jesse James td and James Conner 9 yard run with phantom holding call. Those were all momentum killers that potentially decided games. So yeah great adjustment calling refs in.
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    Bad calls happen to every team. Even the Pats. The difference is whining vs doing something about it. IF you want to whine the refs stop momentum that’s fine. Just understand they do little to prevent it from starting.

  34. I think the refs turned that game around and made the adjustment on the forced fumble that should have been returned for a td. Also the pi on uncatchable ball at the end of the first half. It’s pretty easy to make adjustments when the refs kill the other teams momentum. Just like the titans game with bogus pi and other penalties. Then the bills (no td) before. Then the Steelers game Jesse James td and James Conner 9 yard run with phantom holding call. Those were all momentum killers that potentially decided games. So yeah great adjustment calling refs in.
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    How about trying to create your own momentum by not taking a knee with 55 sec left in the half!

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    How about the refs not call questionable pi penalties but only against one team.

  35. trentdilfer08 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:29 pm

    Man if every Great franchise could just play in the AFC east against that horrid competition. That gifts first round byes and two homes games to get to the Superbowl like its there job.
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    The Steelers play in the Pink and Blue division, and I don’t see them tearing it up in the Super Bowl on a regular basis.

  36. Brady’s great and has obviously had the greatest career of any QB in history. At the same time it has to be remembered the distinct advantage he’s had playing for the Kraft/Belichick Patriots for 17 years. I guarantee if Mike McCarthy was calling the offensive plays and Dom Capers was his defensive co-ordinator he wouldn’t have anywhere near the success. Likewise if Jim Caldwell and John Fox were his head coaches for most of his career.

  37. trentdilfer08 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:29 pm
    Man if every Great franchise could just play in the AFC east against that horrid competition. That gifts first round byes and two homes games to get to the Superbowl like its there job.
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    Uh Cleveland says Hi.

    Tremble at the might of the AFC North. LOL

  38. The only numbers and frankly the only thing Brady cares about are wins and losses.

    Below are his numbers. Wins 3 out of every 4 games he plays. These figures will never be approached. The other stats whatever

    W L T Pct
    Total 223 64 0 .777
    Reg. 196 55 0 .781
    Playoffs 27 9 0 .750

  39. psteelfan1 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:41 pm

    Yeah and Jesse James caught it. The rule says survive initial contact with the ground which if I’m not mistaken a knee is a part of the body, no? Also the ball was not catchable so how was it pi? Like I always hear them say let them play! But of course different rules apply when patriots are playing. The refs seem to call penalties at just the right time to kill the other teams momentum. Let’s see I’m pretty sure Al Riveron ruled every controversial review in the patriots favor this year giving them games and thus home field throughout the playoffs.
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    Translation:

    It’s easier to blame the refs instead of your QB sealing the loss even after the refs blew\missed the call.

  40. There are 31 system quarterbacks in the NFL and none of them are named “Brady”. Bruce Lee didn’t believe in systems and the Patriots are the only team in the NFL that doesn’t have a system. NFL. The patriots adapt to their opponents. Was great watching the Patriots adjust to what the Jaguars were doing when the Patriots turned that game around. The Patriots are the Bruce Lee of the NFL.

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    I think the refs turned that game around and made the adjustment on the forced fumble that should have been returned for a td. Also the pi on uncatchable ball at the end of the first half. It’s pretty easy to make adjustments when the refs kill the other teams momentum. Just like the titans game with bogus pi and other penalties. Then the bills (no td) before. Then the Steelers game Jesse James td and James Conner 9 yard run with phantom holding call. Those were all momentum killers that potentially decided games. So yeah great adjustment calling refs in.
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    Bad calls happen to every team. Even the Pats. The difference is whining vs doing something about it. IF you want to whine the refs stop momentum that’s fine. Just understand they do little to prevent it from starting.
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    Yeah the pats had 1 penalty called on them against the jags and it wasn’t even on offense or defense. Like I’m sure they committed no holding or pi or facemask penalties the whole game. Yeah right, pretty hard to believe.

  41. Man if every Great franchise could just play in the AFC east against that horrid competition. That gifts first round byes and two homes games to get to the Superbowl like its there job.
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    AFC East is about average according to how they play other non division teams. What about the AFC North? Cleveland? Cincy? That’s a strong division, right? Houston and Indy in the AFC South?

    And winning your division doesn’t equal a bye. 4 divisions. 2 byes.

    And even if it did, why doesn’t the other bye team go automatically, like it’s their job?

  42. psteelfan1 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:43 pm

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    How about the refs not call questionable pi penalties but only against one team.

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    The referees were clearly trying to help the Jaguars.

    Everyone who was watching the game saw the body slam tackle 4 yards in the end zone on White after the Patriots touchdown. Which was then followed by a shot to the head after White stood up. That happened right in front of the referee who didn’t throw a flag.

    The referees also handed the Jaguars an undeserved fumble recovery in order to cheat the Patriots. Lewis was laying on the ground with the football pinned against his hip. He was in contact with the Jaguars defender so the play should have been over and no fumble.

    All football fans understand that a player doesn’t need both hands or to have the center of the football to be in possession of the football. We all remember when helmet catch (Tyree) pinned the football to his helmet. Football fans also remember when (Baldwin) pinned a football to his leg. The referees awarded both of them possession.

    But now when the referees are trying to cheat the Patriots they don’t let Lewis pin the football to his hip and award him with possession of the football. The football never hit the ground and was not in the air so it can’t be a fumble while Lewis has it pinned to his hip.

    Other than the automatic flags, when the Jaguars earned a false start, delay of game, an illegal shift, an unnecessary roughness penalty, the Jaguars were only called for 2 penalties requiring referee judgement in the entire game.

    Those 2 Jaguar penalties were for tackling one of the Patriots defensive linemen in an attempt to prevent a QB sack, (the Patriots still got the sack), and the other flag was when a Jaguar defensive back put his hands on Cooks to push Cooks out of bounds. Those were easy calls that are called against every team, during every NFL game.

    You mean to tell me that the referees couldn’t have found any Jaguar penalties that would require referee judgement in the entire game? The referees called one of those judgement penalties when the Patriots were flagged for holding during a kickoff.

  43. psteelfan1 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:43 pm
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    How about the refs not call questionable pi penalties but only against one team.
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    How about the refs could\should have called even more PIs against Jax and only called the most egregious?

  44. How about the refs not call questionable pi penalties but only against one team

    If you want to call the push out of bounds questionable, okay
    But the second one on Ramsey, no way that was questionable. He had his arm around the neck of Cooks.

  45. “I think the refs turned that game around and made the adjustment on the forced fumble that should have been returned for a td. Also the pi on uncatchable ball at the end of the first half. ”

    The “fumble” that most refs would have called Lewis down by contact on, that one?

    And the reason the ball was “uncatchable” was that the Jags defender pushed Cooks out of bounds. Not only is pushing a receiver like that PI after 5 yards from the LOS, but its also unsportsmanlike conduct penalty to push someone out of bounds
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    It was a fumble the ball was coming out and the refs conveniently didn’t swallow their whistle and let the play play out. Why not? But yeah you’re right if it was reviewed Al Riveron in NY would have ruled in the pats favor like he did four other times this year on controversial game changing/deciding plays. Cooks was not exactly pushed he let himself get forced out which was a good defensive play.

  46. psteelfan1 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:41 pm

    Psteelerfan1: seriously, you still don’t understand what a catch is or what constitutes pass interference? I thought Pittsburgh fans were supposed to be football smart? Guess not !
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    Yeah and Jesse James caught it. The rule says survive initial contact with the ground which if I’m not mistaken a knee is a part of the body, no? Also the ball was not catchable so how was it pi? Like I always hear them say let them play! But of course different rules apply when patriots are playing. The refs seem to call penalties at just the right time to kill the other teams momentum. Let’s see I’m pretty sure Al Riveron ruled every controversial review in the patriots favor this year giving them games and thus home field throughout the playoffs.

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    Everyone that was watching the recent Patriots\Steelers game saw the no call on the flagrant offensive pass interference where Martavis Bryant’s “touchdown” handed the Steelers the undeserved 17-10 lead going into halftime. Must be a new rule that allows players to push off as long as they keep pushing during the entire play while only using one hand the make the catch.

  47. How about the refs not call questionable pi penalties but only against one team.
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    Two that were called were pretty blatant. 10 time out of 10 they call that.

    How about the deep ball to Cooks that hit him in the breadbasket! He tried to catch it with one hand. On replay the other wrist was being held completely by the CB. He was one handed. No call. I saw another tackle on Hogan before he got the ball. No call. Patriots don’t interfere or if they do, it’s not that ridiculously blatant.

    And Jack should have been thrown out after he punched White in the face after his touchdown. He slams him down after he’s 5 yards in the end zone and then gets up and punches him. No call. Should have been ejected. Cheap shot Church should have been ejected.

    The fumble, Jack was down by contact. Doesn’t matter that he wasn’t touched AFTER he had control. He was touched while he was getting control and ended up down on the ground with control. That’s down by contact. Rules, stubborn things.

  48. Everyone that was watching the recent Patriots\Steelers game saw the no call on the flagrant offensive pass interference where Martavis Bryant’s “touchdown” handed the Steelers the undeserved 17-10 lead going into halftime. Must be a new rule that allows players to push off as long as they keep pushing during the entire play while only using one hand the make the catch.
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    Yeah just like everyone saw that Eli Rogers was held on the interception at the end of the game. And holding on the pats first td, I guess arm around neck doesn’t constitute holding. But pats so no call.

  49. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:36 pm

    But but but stats are for losers…
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    But you can’t the Patriots or Brady losers…because unlike your loser Dolphins who haven’t won anything since…1974….Brady has WON..2 out of the last 3 suuperbowls…and Brady and the Patriots have now WON a opportunity to play in another superbowl.

  50. factpurveyor says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:17 pm
    psteelfan1 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:10 pm

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    I think the refs turned that game around and made the adjustment on the forced fumble that should have been returned for a td.

    ——————————————————————

    The referees handed the Jaguars an undeserved fumble recovery in order to cheat the Patriots. Lewis was laying on the ground with the football pinned against his hip. He was in contact with the Jaguars defender so the play should have been over and no fumble.

    All football fans understand that a player doesn’t need both hands or to have the center of the football to be in possession of the football. We all remember when helmet catch (Tyree) pinned the football to his helmet. Football fans also remember when (Baldwin) pinned a football to his leg. The referees awarded both of them possession.

    But now when the referees are trying to cheat the Patriots they don’t let Lewis pin the football to his hip and award him with possession of the football. The football never hit the ground and was not in the air so it can’t be a fumble while Lewis has it pinned to his hip.

    ______________________________

    Tyree and Baldwin are bad examples, as both players never lost the ball. Hence no question of it being a catch. Of course they give each possession.The just used their body to maintain possession of the ball. Lewis lost the ball tried to use his body to maintain possession, but the ball was taken away from him before he could.

  51. fennecfox1947 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:15 pm

    My view is that Belicheck is the greatest coach of all time. Brady – I’d like to see him win without BB.
    ————————————————————————————————————-
    Remind me how many SBs Montana won without Bill Walsh?

    I assume you will withhold judgement on Montana until he wins one without Walsh, right?

  52. psteelfan1 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:52 pm

    Yeah the pats had 1 penalty called on them against the jags and it wasn’t even on offense or defense. Like I’m sure they committed no holding or pi or facemask penalties the whole game. Yeah right, pretty hard to believe.
    ================
    What part of the refs only calling the most egregious penalties is not clear? Instead of making excuses how about waking up to playoff football. A lot of you conveniently ostrich the fact the refs are like this in the playoffs EVERY year.

  53. Did someone just try to use “glorified Elway” as an insult? What’s next, Brady is a rich man’s Montana?

  54. 2000’s — Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers
    —-
    I would move Rodgers to a 2010s category.

    Brady for sure would be in both. Perhaps Manning too although that would mostly be on the back of his 2013 season,

  55. psteelfan1 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:52 pm

    Yeah the pats had 1 penalty called on them against the jags and it wasn’t even on offense or defense. Like I’m sure they committed no holding or pi or facemask penalties the whole game. Yeah right, pretty hard to believe.

    —————————————————————————————————–
    Yeah the Jaguars only had 2 referee judgement penalties called on them in the whole game.. Like I’m sure they committed no holding or facemask or special team penalties during the whole game. Yeah right, pretty hard to believe.

  56. 1. 55-10 and 5 touchdown passes against Wade Philip’s number 1 defense.

    walker1191 says:

    My view is that Belicheck is the greatest coach of all time. Brady – I’d like to see him win without BB.
    ————————————————————————————————————-
    Remind me how many SBs Montana won without Bill Walsh?

  57. psteelfan1 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:58 pm

    It was a fumble the ball was coming out and the refs conveniently didn’t swallow their whistle and let the play play out.
    ———————

    Yeah, but the ball “coming out” doesn’t constitute a fumble.

  58. las0023 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:35 pm
    How many times has Brady played against a team as good as the 80s Bears, Redskins or Belichick Giants?
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    Millions of years of evolution and it leads to this comment? how about the “Greatest Show on Turf” 2001 Rams?, “Legion of Boom” 2014 Seahawks? Blew out the record setting 2013 Broncos the year before, 2004 Eagles went 13-3 and had been to 3 straight NFC championship games before that. Last years Falcons blew out Seattle and Green Bay in their playoff games and also had the league MVP. Lets not forget the almost annual matchups with great Colts/Peyton and Steelers teams in the playoffs too.

  59. psteelfan1 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:58 pm

    It was a fumble the ball was coming out and the refs conveniently didn’t swallow their whistle and let the play play out. Why not? But yeah you’re right if it was reviewed Al Riveron in NY would have ruled in the pats favor like he did four other times this year on controversial game changing/deciding plays. Cooks was not exactly pushed he let himself get forced out which was a good defensive play.
    ==================
    It’s completely laughable to suggest the Pats were the only team that benefited from Al Riveron reviews this year. Instead of declaring incompetence towards Riveron (where it rightfully belongs) we get to hear how the review office is biased towards the Pats despite all evidence to the contrary.

    Cooks let himself get forced out. LOL How about this … if the 99% of the remaining part of the field wasn’t being blocked by Bouye you might be right.

  60. phootbolgawd says:
    January 23, 2018 at 2:09 pm

    Lewis lost the ball tried to use his body to maintain possession, but the ball was taken away from him before he could.
    ——————–

    He had possession of the ball when his knee hit the ground. At what point is the play over?

  61. phootbolgawd says:
    January 23, 2018 at 2:09 pm
    ______________________________
    Tyree and Baldwin are bad examples, as both players never lost the ball. Hence no question of it being a catch. Of course they give each possession.The just used their body to maintain possession of the ball. Lewis lost the ball tried to use his body to maintain possession, but the ball was taken away from him before he could.

    ——————————————————————————
    And I wouldn’t even have brought up the fumble until a bunch of crybabies started crying about the player not being allowed to advance the football due to being down by contact…which was correctly called after the fumble recovery.

  62. There’s no Atlanta Falcons team in history that compares to the 1985 Chicago Bears. And that 2014 Legion of Boom was a shell of itself. Sherman had 1 usable arm, Chancellor a torn MCL, Thomas a dislocated shoulder, Lane and Avril out for the 2nd half. No pass rush and no tight coverage – watch the Edelman game winning TD catch. Not even comparable to what Manning faced the previous year. And even with that and the GOAT coach, Brady still needed the stupidest play call in football history to win.

    pigalicious16 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 2:16 pm

    Millions of years of evolution and it leads to this comment? how about the “Greatest Show on Turf” 2001 Rams?, “Legion of Boom” 2014 Seahawks? Blew out the record setting 2013 Broncos the year before, 2004 Eagles went 13-3 and had been to 3 straight NFC championship games before that. Last years Falcons blew out Seattle and Green Bay in their playoff games and also had the league MVP. Lets not forget the almost annual matchups with great Colts/Peyton and Steelers teams in the playoffs too.

  63. phootbolgawd says:
    January 23, 2018 at 2:09 pm

    but the ball was taken away from him
    ———————————————————

    Exactly….the football was not picked out of the air or picked up off the ground. The football was ripped out of the hand of a player who was already down by contact. Either way…the player that was awarded with the fumble recovery made contact with Lewis while recovering the football….so based on what is written in the NFL rulebook….not what you would call in backyard football….the player is down by contact.

  64. Could Brady have set records years ago when the rules were a lot tougher for receivers to get open and QB protection was not as strict as it is today. Of course he could have and would have. But you can’t seriously compare records from yesteryear to today just like all physical contact sports, they are all completely different from years ago because of trends to score more points and the safety aspect. Records are meaningless to the greats. People know who the greats are, you don’t need records. Is Brady the GOAT, I think you have to say yes.

  65. Not only is Brady the GOAT, but according to Pats fans, he has the best hairstyle, best car, best model wife, and best golf game ever for a QB in NFL history.

  66. grant35 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 2:16 pm
    I’ve seen Unitas, Montana, Marino, & Brady play. Brady is great but NOT #1 – not even close.

    And you lost when you typed “not even close”

  67. Your argument only makes sense if comparing raw statistics. Try using some critical thinking instead. If Steve Young, Dan Marino or Aaron Rodgers played on the 80s 49ers or Belichick Patriots they would have 5+ Super Bowls too.

    —————————

    truthprofessor says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:33 pm
    Remember the quaint Brady vs. Manning debate of about 10 years ago? Funny to think it was even seriously discussed, now, but it was settled in Brady’s favor.

    Then remember the quaint Brady vs. Montana GOAT debate? It was settled in Brady’s favor.

    What’s left? Brady vs. the COMBINATION of Montana and Young? It also is settled in Brady’s favor.

    Brady vs. the COMBINATION of Montana and Manning, or Elway and Manning, or Montana and Elway?

    Closer, I guess, but it appears that Brady will lap the field in accomplishments even of any TWO other QBs, at least in postseason records.

    He may also own about all the regular season records, if he plays to 45, like he wants

  68. It is amazing that some posters no nothing about the rules. Why was that PI? Honestly…bad technique, had the DB been going for the ball that contact would have been acceptable but it is obvious he was not making a play on the ball because the ball was in bounds and he was pushing Cooks out of bounds. You cannot impede a players progress to\wards the ball unless you are also making a play for it. Was it catchable, probably if Cooks was not impeded.

    Was Lewis’ play a fumble, most certainly, he lost possession before he was down and never secured it before he could be officially ruled down.

    On the James play, he has to survive the ground, is it a good rule nope, but that play is really easy to officiate, no catch. Along those lines if he was a smart player he would not have tried to extend the ball over the goal line, secure it away and go to the ground and it is a catch and they probably score from the 1 yd line.

    Lastly if we are talking non calsl what about the body slam to White in the end zone, no call there but I do not here to many Jag fans, or any fans for that matter complaining about that.

  69. nyneal says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:39 pm
    The haters don’t care. They’ll say he cheated for 9,999 of them.

    It’s impossible to say who the greatest QB in the history of the NFL is because it’s simply unfair to compare different eras. But if you look at the history of the NFL objectively, this is a list of great QB’s who are worthy of being recognized as the best of their eras:
    1920’s — Paddy Driscoll
    1930’s — Arnie Herber
    1940’s — Sammie Baugh, Sid Luckman, Bob Waterfield
    1950’s — Otto Graham, Bobby Layne, Norm Van Brocklin
    1960’s — Johnny Unitas, Bart Starr
    1970’s — Terry Bradshaw, Roger Staubach
    1980’s — Joe Montana, Dan Marino, Dan Fouts
    1990’s — John Elway, Brett Favre, Troy Aikman
    2000’s — Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers

    If I had just one QB from any era to choose in one big game, I’d take Johnny Unitas. He was the closest thing to perfection I ever saw in an era when QB’s got smashed almost every time they threw the ball.

    If you look at what Sammy Baugh did as a QB, defensive back, and punter during his era, it is a fact that he dominated his era greater than any QB dominated theirs. So Baugh has as much claim to being called the greatest QB whoever played as anyone, in my opinion. Baugh is the father of the passing game in the NFL, there is no debate about that. He is tied with Steve Young as leading the league in passing the most times (six) and still holds the record for leading the league with the lowest interception percentage (5). Baugh held 13 records in passing, punting, and as a DB at the time of his retirement.
    ————————————————————-

    But Paddy Driscoll c’mon man – the guy was a stud. even Arnie Herber called him the best he’d ever seen.

  70. grant35 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 2:35 pm
    Not only is Brady the GOAT, but according to Pats fans, he has the best hairstyle, best car, best model wife, and best golf game ever for a QB in NFL history.

    Pssssssddd , I’ll let you in on a little secret

    It’s NOT just Patriots fans that call home the GOAT.

    Pretty much EVERY current and former coach and players former and current say it too.

  71. I truly believe Peyton Manning is Brady’s equal, regardless of ring total. Manning is the greatest at pre-snap adjustment. Brady is greatest at post-snap. I have to give the edge to Brady and one big reason is Manning’s 9 one-and-done record in the postseason. That’s a glaring flaw to me. In the regular season EVERY team gets to play 16 games regardless of record. In the postseason it is a one game elimination. The whole point of doing well in the regular season, qualifying for the 1 seed or a bye, is to give yourself the best position and advantage to advance in the playoff. And yet, year after year, Manning kept failing to advance and couldn’t beat the lowest seeded team. You can have some fluke losses… but NINE times? And that’s a big knock on him. One of the big reason we watch sports is to witness how an athlete performs under pressure, hence Brady gets the edge. People like to make Montana in the number 1 or 2 spot under Brady. To me Brady is the best. If Brady is 1A then Manning 1B in the pantheon for me. I feel fortunate to have witnessed these two great competitors in this era.

    YMMV.

  72. walker1191 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 12:58 pm
    Cut Brady’s career in half as pre-ACL injury and post-ACL injury and he’s a HOF shoe-in twice.

    Is this kind of like in the Monty Python movie where the guy gets his legs & arms cut off & still challenges his opponent? Or is it like the Music Hall of Fame where you can go in as a solo act or part of a group? Like Tom could be the first human to have 2 busts there – one as a Pats player and one as simply an entity?

  73. fritz96 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 2:29 pm
    There’s no Atlanta Falcons team in history that compares to the 1985 Chicago Bears. And that 2014 Legion of Boom was a shell of itself. Sherman had 1 usable arm, Chancellor a torn MCL, Thomas a dislocated shoulder, Lane and Avril out for the 2nd half. No pass rush and no tight coverage – watch the Edelman game winning TD catch. Not even comparable to what Manning faced the previous year. And even with that and the GOAT coach, Brady still needed the stupidest play call in football history to win.

    pigalicious16 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 2:16 pm

    Millions of years of evolution and it leads to this comment? how about the “Greatest Show on Turf” 2001 Rams?, “Legion of Boom” 2014 Seahawks? Blew out the record setting 2013 Broncos the year before, 2004 Eagles went 13-3 and had been to 3 straight NFC championship games before that. Last years Falcons blew out Seattle and Green Bay in their playoff games and also had the league MVP. Lets not forget the almost annual matchups with great Colts/Peyton and Steelers teams in the playoffs too.

    ————————
    Before the game: “These guys are unbreakable. The Pats have no chance against a defense like that. Brady is going to be weeping by halftime. They are going to get stuffed”
    After the game: “Awww geez. They were depleted. No way was that a fair matchup. The Pats get all the breaks.”

    Keep in mind that any team the Pats have ever faced in the Superbowl has won out over their entire conference and finished higher than the entire rest of the league just to be there.

  74. Flash1287 says: It’s NOT just Patriots fans that call home the GOAT

    Hey, Pats fans aren’t the only ones to call their house the best.

  75. What’s so amaizing about Brady is that he’s doing it in the era of free agency & salary cap….. teams today can’t stay competitive or BUY championships like they did in the past… great teams could be held together indefinitely….. the Patriots just keep interchanging players & Brady helps them elevate their level of play….. he makes nobodies & average players look great & great players look unbelievable…..

  76. Nope – At most the Seahawks were 1 point favorites. Many places had them at even odds. Of course any team to make it to the Super Bowl had a great season but with the exception of the Greatest Show on Turf the Patriots have never faced an all time great team.

    ————–

    pinebird1 says:

    ————————
    Before the game: “These guys are unbreakable. The Pats have no chance against a defense like that. Brady is going to be weeping by halftime. They are going to get stuffed”
    After the game: “Awww geez. They were depleted. No way was that a fair matchup. The Pats get all the breaks.”

    Keep in mind that any team the Pats have ever faced in the Superbowl has won out over their entire conference and finished higher than the entire rest of the league just to be there.

  77. Amazing indeed but that’s a compliment to Belichick not any of his players.

    ————————-

    kissbillsrings says:
    January 23, 2018 at 3:10 pm
    What’s so amaizing about Brady is that he’s doing it in the era of free agency & salary cap….. teams today can’t stay competitive or BUY championships like they did in the past… great teams could be held together indefinitely….. the Patriots just keep interchanging players & Brady helps them elevate their level of play….. he makes nobodies & average players look great & great players look unbelievable…..

  78. Did you see the video of the Referee ‘high fiving’ the Bradycheat & the rest of the Patricheats after the last game? He was excited about his payoff check he was going to collect…

  79. aarons444 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 2:54 pm
    Whats most amusing about this is…
    ———————————————

    …that non-Pats fans try to make the argument that there is nothing impressive about a QB starting in 12 Conference Championships and 8 Super Bowl games (and counting).

  80. aarons444 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:45 pm
    Bart Starr

    9-1 postseason record

    Only QB in the Super Bowl-era to 3-peat

    104.8 rating (#1 all-time)
    —————————–

    It’s easy to be the best when there are only 4 teams.

    Why aren’t the Packers’ fans in full-hibernation right now?

    Go back to sleep, there is nothing here for you.

  81. fritz96 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 3:11 pm
    Nope – At most the Seahawks were 1 point favorites. Many places had them at even odds. Of course any team to make it to the Super Bowl had a great season but with the exception of the Greatest Show on Turf the Patriots have never faced an all time great team.
    —-
    1985 Bears, 1996 Packers,2001 Rams, 2014 Seahawks were all time great teams. The 2004 Eagles were not far off.

  82. grant35 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 2:35 pm
    Not only is Brady the GOAT, but according to Pats fans, he has the best hairstyle, best car, best model wife, and best golf game ever for a QB in NFL history.

    —-
    Well…he does! So? 🙂

  83. aarons444 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 2:54 pm
    Whats most amusing about this is Patriots fans will blather on forever thinking it will change the minds of those who won’t buy….
    ///////

    The ones that “won’t buy” at this point are in a special state of denial.

  84. Where would Brady be w/o the best coach in the game? Or top 5 defenses and special teams? Brady can suck for 3 quarters like the last 2 Super Bowls and the Jags game and still win beause other teams become conservative and his defense and special teams will figure it out and stop the other team. The last 4 comebacks by the Pats the defense has only given up 3 4th qtr points.

    Without all this Brady isn’t as good. Peyton is the true GOAT. Peyton did more with less. It’s a team game and Brady always has the best team. Plus spygate and deflategate.

  85. grant35 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 2:16 pm
    I’ve seen Unitas, Montana, Marino, & Brady play. Brady is great but NOT #1 – not even close.

    ———-

    If you transported Brady in a time machine to any of those era’s he would never lose a game. 3 inches taller, 25 or 30 lbs heavier, 1000x better understanding of the game.

    That’s why you can’t compare eras.

  86. truthdispensary says:
    January 23, 2018 at 3:29 pm
    Did you see the video of the Referee ‘high fiving’ the Bradycheat & the rest of the Patricheats after the last game? He was excited about his payoff check he was going to collect…
    ——
    Patriots Hater loves to make up fairy tales these days don’t they. It’s all they got. 🙂

  87. Instead of giving his offensive line a reward for helping him achieve this postseason record, Brady shoyld give it to the refs as they’ve been instrumental in getting Brady to the next level. That’s all, Good Bye

  88. Theevidencesaysotherwise says:
    January 23, 2018 at 3:34 pm
    Where would Brady be w/o the best coach in the game? Or top 5 defenses and special teams? Brady can suck for 3 quarters like the last 2 Super Bowls and the Jags game and still win beause other teams become conservative and his defense and special teams will figure it out and stop the other team. The last 4 comebacks by the Pats the defense has only given up 3 4th qtr points.

    Without all this Brady isn’t as good. Peyton is the true GOAT. Peyton did more with less. It’s a team game and Brady always has the best team. Plus spygate and deflategate.
    —-
    Laughably wrong but that’s par for the course for the uninformed Patriot Hater.

    As for Manning – yeah, I guess having guys like Edge, Harrison, Wayne in their primes, Clark, a great OL, D. Thomas, Sanders counts as “less”. Whatever you say chief.

  89. bullcharger says:
    January 23, 2018 at 3:34 pm
    grant35 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 2:16 pm
    I’ve seen Unitas, Montana, Marino, & Brady play. Brady is great but NOT #1 – not even close.

    ———-

    If you transported Brady in a time machine to any of those era’s he would never lose a game. 3 inches taller, 25 or 30 lbs heavier, 1000x better understanding of the game.

    That’s why you can’t compare eras.

    —-
    Plus those ancient playbooks were oh so complicated weren’t they. Pass deep right side was the most complex one. 🙂

  90. Did you see the video of the Referee ‘high fiving’ the Bradycheat & the rest of the Patricheats after the last game? He was excited about his payoff check he was going to collect…
    ——
    Patriots Hater loves to make up fairy tales these days don’t they. It’s all they got. 🙂

    “””
    The ref was the 1st person to congratulate Brady after the Jags game. That’s a fact.

  91. Theevidencesaysotherwise says:
    January 23, 2018 at 3:48 pm
    Did you see the video of the Referee ‘high fiving’ the Bradycheat & the rest of the Patricheats after the last game? He was excited about his payoff check he was going to collect…
    ——
    Patriots Hater loves to make up fairy tales these days don’t they. It’s all they got. 🙂

    “””
    The ref was the 1st person to congratulate Brady after the Jags game. That’s a fact.
    —-
    Were you there? What number are you? 🙂

  92. joenomouth says:
    January 23, 2018 at 2:51 pm

    Montana did win 1 Super Bowl withOUT Walsh.
    ——————————————————————————
    in was hoping someone was going to bring this up. it’s true – the 49ers under George Seifert beat the Broncos 55-10 and Montana had 5 TDs in that game.

    Of course the Broncos were the ultimate tomato can back then, putting up these SB performnances in the 90’s:

    Lost to the Giants 39-20, Phil Simms goes 22-25 with 3 TDs.
    Lost to the Redskins 42-10, Doug Williams 340 yards and 4 TDs.
    And then Montana.

    Yes, Montana’s stats were great, but everyone was absolutely creaming that Bronco team back then – the tough competition was in the NFC at the time.

  93. “Did you see the video of the Referee ‘high fiving’ the Bradycheat & the rest of the Patricheats after the last game? ”

    Um, the refs usually congratulate the winners in every game, especially during the playoffs. They will also frequently offer a hand up to players of both teams in every game.

    Somehow people like you with your tunnel vision only see it when the do so with the Pats however. You have selective blindness when it comes to other teams.

    That’s called a double standard by the way.

  94. Theevidencesaysotherwise says:
    January 23, 2018 at 3:34 pm
    Where would Brady be w/o the best coach in the game? Or top 5 defenses and special teams? Brady can suck for 3 quarters like the last 2 Super Bowls and the Jags game and still win beause other teams become conservative and his defense and special teams will figure it out and stop the other team. The last 4 comebacks by the Pats the defense has only given up 3 4th qtr points.

    Without all this Brady isn’t as good. Peyton is the true GOAT. Peyton did more with less. It’s a team game and Brady always has the best team. Plus spygate and deflategate.
    ===================
    Somewhere MHarrison, RWhite and DClark are giving you both of their middle fingers.

  95. Theevidencesaysotherwise says:
    January 23, 2018 at 3:34 pm

    Where would Brady be w/o the best coach in the game? Or top 5 defenses and special teams? Brady can suck for 3 quarters like the last 2 Super Bowls and the Jags game and still win beause other teams become conservative and his defense and special teams will figure it out and stop the other team. The last 4 comebacks by the Pats the defense has only given up 3 4th qtr points.

    Without all this Brady isn’t as good. Peyton is the true GOAT. Peyton did more with less. It’s a team game and Brady always has the best team. Plus spygate and deflategate.
    ———————–

    Where would any great quarterback be without a good coach and a good team around him? Oh yeah, wherever Dan Marino is.

    What exactly did Peyton do more of, except for losing in the playoffs?

  96. Somewhere MHarrison, RWhite and DClark are giving you both of their middle fingers.

    ——
    Yeah no kidding.

    “more with less” lolololololololol

  97. There’s this technology called On Demand. It lets you save the game and rewatch it and I did. Six calls on Jags, every one legitimate. Delay of game, false start, illegal shift, a PI where Ramsy put Cooks in a choke hold, helmet to helmet by Church, and Bouye’s PI where he fondled Cooks down the field before pushing him OB.

    The refs let them play accept for egregious penalties. Bouye literally holds on most plays. Take away the two obvious PIs and the helmet to helmet polay and the jags has three dumb pre-snap penalties for 15 yards.

  98. Theevidencesaysotherwise says:
    January 23, 2018 at 3:52 pm
    No one hates on Nick Saban and his 6 championships. Pats fans work so hard to brag about their team because like Lance and Barry it’s tainted. Lol 😢

    ——
    Not tainted in any way shape or form. 🙂

    You getting mad boy? 😀

  99. Theevidencesaysotherwise says:
    January 23, 2018 at 3:48 pm

    The ref was the 1st person to congratulate Brady after the Jags game. That’s a fact.

    ——

    so you deem that as ironclad proof that the Patriots paid off the officials?

    I sure hope no judge ever lets you be on a jury.

  100. truthdispensary says:
    January 23, 2018 at 3:29 pm
    Did you see the video of the Referee ‘high fiving’ the Bradycheat & the rest of the Patricheats after the last game? He was excited about his payoff check he was going to collect…
    =========================
    Yup. First time that’s ever happened.

    In the history of the NFL. 😉

  101. Without all this Brady isn’t as good. Peyton is the true GOAT. Peyton did more with less. It’s a team game and Brady always has the best team. Plus spygate and deflategat

    P Manning went one and done FIVE times when his team had a top 5 offense and a top 10 defense

    Sore CRYBABY but that argument was OVER 4 years ago
    Brady’s the GOAT

  102. Where would any great quarterback be without a good coach and a good team around him? Oh yeah, wherever Dan Marino is.

    What exactly did Peyton do more of, except for losing in the playoffs?

    “”

    Thanks for proving my point. Peyton > Marino > Brady.

    Brady only wins more because he’s on better teams and they cheat. Lol

    Now who’s mad bro. And Brady tells cameraman to eff off. Peyton would never do that.

  103. Theevidencesaysotherwise says:
    January 23, 2018 at 3:52 pm

    No one hates on Nick Saban and his 6 championships.
    ————————-

    That’s rich.

  104. The ref was the 1st person to congratulate Brady after the Jags game. That’s a fact.

    ——

    so you deem that as ironclad proof that the Patriots paid off the officials?

    I sure hope no judge ever lets you be on a jury.

    “””

    I never said that. I was pointing out a fact. But now that you mention it that wouldn’t surprise me. Pats fans all have distorting the truth in their delusional brain.

  105. Thanks for proving my point. Peyton > Marino > Brady.

    Brady only wins more because he’s on better teams and they cheat. Lol

    Now who’s mad bro. And Brady tells cameraman to eff off. Peyton would never do that.
    —-
    You really think Peyton had “less” lolololololololololol

  106. Theevidencesaysotherwise says:
    January 23, 2018 at 4:09 pm

    I never said that. I was pointing out a fact. But now that you mention it that wouldn’t surprise me. Pats fans all have distorting the truth in their delusional brain.

    —–

    I didn’t say you said that….and you don’t need to say it either. The things you wrote in several comments, collectively, are enough circumstantial evidence to prove that is your view. You should be able to understand that.

  107. bullcharger says: If you transported Brady in a time machine to any of those era’s he would never lose a game. 3 inches taller, 25 or 30 lbs heavier, 1000x better understanding of the game.

    That’s why you can’t compare eras

    I can only describe from what I actually witnessed – though your description of Brady sounds physically more like Dante Culpeper than Brady. I will say that I have been searching for the reason you can’t compare eras & I thank you for convincing me that the logical use of a time machine easily answers that question – provided, of course, that you could actually produce one.

  108. lifetimefan says:

    January 23, 2018 at 12:45 pm

    “As I have said before, it is difficult to anoint a player in most any sport the best of all time. Rules change too often, making the eras in which they played in so much different that it is hard to compare success. Having said that Brady is easily the best of this generation and certainly in the discussion for the best QB, and player in any a sport…all time.
    **************************
    And yet, here you are playing the fool and doing exactly what you suggested can’t be done.

    I don’t think it’s a question whether he’s the best QB, he’s proven he is, but he’s not the best player in any sport all time. You’ve obviously never heard of a guys named Gretzky or Jordan.

  109. In my best Bill Swerksy superfans voice “Trubisky will have 10,000 yards in his first playoff game next year as DA BEARS defeat the defending superbowl champion Philadelphia Eagles by a score of 182 to negative 20”

  110. Tom Brady played 2 seasons with Randy Moss and has played 100 games with Gronk. If anyone else Brady has played pitch and catch with over the last 17 years wants to get into the Hall of Fame, they will need to buy a ticket.

    GOAT.

  111. pointtwopsiistheissue says:
    January 23, 2018 at 4:16 pm
    TB12 the GOAT has been in7 Super Bowls, is on his way to number 8 . End of discussion!!! He is the BEST!!!!

    ——–

    Belichick has more to do with 8 SB trips than Brady. Think about how Belichick turns the roster every year and still manages to field competitive teams in all phases, defense, offense, ST. Key players come and go but the team is still a competitive.

    Belichick can win SB playing great defense and a mediocre offense which was the case in the first 3 SBs. He can win with very good defense and very good offense like the last 2 SBs and will win another one this year too. Not saying Brady didn’t play a big part in the success but Belichick is the ultimate genius, wizard behind all the success.

  112. Brady will soon be getting another extension to his current contract……THAT must just KILL ALL YOU HOPEFULLS!!!

  113. Hate to tell you this, psteelfan1, but the Lewis fumble/non-fumble WAS reviewed and the call stood. As for the Manning love…the dude played more than half his games in a vaccum…not a breath of wind. He was a stat machine, but is no longer close to Brady’s class in terms of accomplishments. I also saw Unitas, Marino, Montana, and Brady…give me TB12 all day, every day…

  114. These are Babe Ruth type statistics. Hard to imagine anyone breaking this record.

    ——-

    Babe Ruth’s single season and career home run records have been broken multiple times over.

  115. fennecfox1947 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:15 pm
    My view is that Belicheck is the greatest coach of all time. Brady – I’d like to see him win without BB. The last two wins were gift-wrapped by coaches who couldn’t keep it together. You can put Martz’s play-calling in there as well.

    The recent discussion in a blog about today’s teams – you either have a great QB or a great team but not both. Up until the 1992/93 free agency era, the top 3-5 teams were excellent year after year. Hasn’t been like that since the end of the Dallas/Green Bay/SF/Buffalo/Houston/Denver rotation in the 90s. I’ll put Brady in the top echelon with Montana, Unitas, Elway. But until he wins without BB, no.

    Care to discuss what Montana did w/o Bill Walsh? or Elway w/o Shanahan, heck even Unitas w/o Weeb Eubanks was nothing special. We can only judge and compare what actually happened, anything else is foolish.

  116. aarons444 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:45 pm
    Bart Starr

    9-1 postseason record

    Only QB in the Super Bowl-era to 3-peat
    ——————————————
    Bart Starr did not 3-peat in the Super Bowl era. He only played in two Super Bowls, his other championship was prior to the Super Bowl era.

  117. Hate to tell you this, psteelfan1, but the Lewis fumble/non-fumble WAS reviewed and the call stood. As for the Manning love…the dude played more than half his games in a vaccum…not a breath of wind. He was a stat machine, but is no longer close to Brady’s class in terms of accomplishments. I also saw Unitas, Marino, Montana, and Brady…give me TB12 all day, every day…
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    The call stood as a td? Because that’s what it should have been. He was not down by contact. It was reviewed whether it was a fumble but not if he was down by contact because the official was whistle happy. Had they not blown the play dead it could have been reviewed to be a td. I wasn’t questioning whether it was a fumble that was obvious. It should have been a td which would have made it 27-10 but instead the refs bailed out the pats again.

  118. screwmemean says:
    January 23, 2018 at 5:21 pm
    News Flash. Brady is putting up his hand stitches for auction. What a guy. GOAT self-promoter. Opening bid is $100k.

    —-
    #FakeNews

  119. It is amazing that some posters no nothing about the rules. Why was that PI? Honestly…bad technique, had the DB been going for the ball that contact would have been acceptable but it is obvious he was not making a play on the ball because the ball was in bounds and he was pushing Cooks out of bounds. You cannot impede a players progress to\wards the ball unless you are also making a play for it. Was it catchable, probably if Cooks was not impeded.

    Was Lewis’ play a fumble, most certainly, he lost possession before he was down and never secured it before he could be officially ruled down.

    On the James play, he has to survive the ground, is it a good rule nope, but that play is really easy to officiate, no catch. Along those lines if he was a smart player he would not have tried to extend the ball over the goal line, secure it away and go to the ground and it is a catch and they probably score from the 1 yd line.

    Lastly if we are talking non calsl what about the body slam to White in the end zone, no call there but I do not here to many Jag fans, or any fans for that matter complaining about that.

    ————
    Yeah the pats always follow the rules and don’t commit penalties. On the Jesse James catch the rule states must survive initial contact with ground which I believe his knee contacted the ground first not his arms. Irregardless if it was so obvious Al Riveron wouldn’t have reviewed it for 5 minutes. Cooks did the same thing almost against the Texans but hey what do you know, td of course. If it’s inconclusive which it was they should stay with call on the field which in James case was td. All the controversial calls benefit the pats. And yeah on the Lewis fumble the refs should not have blown the whistle it should have been td Jax.

  120. psteelfan1 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:10 pm

    ————
    I think the refs turned that game around and made the adjustment on the forced fumble that should have been returned for a td. Also the pi on uncatchable ball at the end of the first half. It’s pretty easy to make adjustments when the refs kill the other teams momentum. Just like the titans game with bogus pi and other penalties. Then the bills (no td) before. Then the Steelers game Jesse James td and James Conner 9 yard run with phantom holding call. Those were all momentum killers that potentially decided games. So yeah great adjustment calling refs in.

    _____

    Wow, you poor baby. I hope you are Ok…..

  121. There are 31 system quarterbacks in the NFL and none of them are named “Brady”. Bruce Lee didn’t believe in systems and the Patriots are the only team in the NFL that doesn’t have a system. NFL. The patriots adapt to their opponents. Was great watching the Patriots adjust to what the Jaguars were doing when the Patriots turned that game around. The Patriots are the Bruce Lee of the NFL.
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    First I agree they are the Bruce Lee of football…but they do have a system. The difference is the system can adjust. It’s actually built around adjustment.
    As it was explained to me, every pass formation has the possibility of 3 different outcomes for each receiver. The ‘trick’ is for them to all read the coverages the same as Brady–or for Brady to signal which one he wants out of each WR. So the ability to adjust on every play is a bit more complex that audibling out of a pass to a run for example. It is about read and react, and not just react the next play, but to do it in real time.

  122. fritz96 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 3:11 pm
    Of course any team to make it to the Super Bowl had a great season but with the exception of the Greatest Show on Turf the Patriots have never faced an all time great team.
    _____

    So, did the 1985 Bears face an “alltime great team”? They didn’t play themselves that year. Seems like they played some good teams, but no one outstanding. How about the 70’s Steelers? Did they play any “alltime greats”? I mean they beat the Vikings and Rams and Cowboys. All were very good. Cowboys were the best but were 2-3 in SB’s so they can’t be considered alltime greats either.

    My point being is that there is usually only ONE alltime great team at a particular point in time. And most of teams you consider “alltime greats” did NOT play another all time great team

    Right now, that alltime great team is the Patriots.

  123. majormalphunktion says:
    January 23, 2018 at 7:06 pm

    ———————————————————————————————-
    First I agree they are the Bruce Lee of football…but they do have a system. The difference is the system can adjust. It’s actually built around adjustment.
    As it was explained to me, every pass formation has the possibility of 3 different outcomes for each receiver. The ‘trick’ is for them to all read the coverages the same as Brady–or for Brady to signal which one he wants out of each WR. So the ability to adjust on every play is a bit more complex that audibling out of a pass to a run for example. It is about read and react, and not just react the next play, but to do it in real time.

    ——————————————————-

    What is your opinion of the one silly troll who seems to believe that the only team in the NFL having a system is the patriots and that if that silly opinion is mentioned countless times that it will some how discredit the accomplishments of Tom Brady?

  124. I think the refs turned that game around and made the adjustment on the forced fumble that should have been returned for a td. Also the pi on uncatchable ball at the end of the first half. It’s pretty easy to make adjustments when the refs kill the other teams momentum. Just like the titans game with bogus pi and other penalties. Then the bills (no td) before. Then the Steelers game Jesse James td and James Conner 9 yard run with phantom holding call. Those were all momentum killers that potentially decided games. So yeah great adjustment calling refs in.

    _____

    Wow, you poor baby. I hope you are Ok…..

    ————
    Oh yeah I’m fine. After the pit/ne game it was obvious who the nfl wanted in the SB but that doesn’t make it right.

  125. psteelfan1 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 6:50 pm

    All the controversial calls benefit the pats.
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    A Steeler fan whining about something? Wow! I’m shocked!

  126. Theevidencesaysotherwise says:
    January 23, 2018 at 3:48 pm
    Did you see the video of the Referee ‘high fiving’ the Bradycheat & the rest of the Patricheats after the last game? He was excited about his payoff check he was going to collect…

    The ref was the 1st person to congratulate Brady after the Jags game. That’s a fact.

    =================================
    First person to congratulate Brady was Calais Campbell.
    Now, THAT is a fact.

  127. Agreed but I think the 49ers played tougher teams in the NFC than the Patriots have ever faced. The Bears, Giants and Redskins for example.

    —————

    JokerSC says:
    January 23, 2018 at 7:17 pm
    So, did the 1985 Bears face an “alltime great team”? They didn’t play themselves that year. Seems like they played some good teams, but no one outstanding. How about the 70’s Steelers? Did they play any “alltime greats”? I mean they beat the Vikings and Rams and Cowboys. All were very good. Cowboys were the best but were 2-3 in SB’s so they can’t be considered alltime greats either.

    My point being is that there is usually only ONE alltime great team at a particular point in time. And most of teams you consider “alltime greats” did NOT play another all time great team

    Right now, that alltime great team is the Patriots.

  128. psteelfan1 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 7:20 pm

    Oh yeah I’m fine. After the pit/ne game it was obvious who the nfl wanted in the SB but that doesn’t make it right.

    ———–

    Maybe if your team had a real coach they would be able to beat the. Enter teams in the league

    If you want to blame anyone…blame your coach

  129. lots of sad obsessed haters ……
    to write off all of accomplishments of the last 17-18 years
    and chalk it up to refs,nfl bias, weak division, etc.
    is foolish and childish and deep down they know it.

  130. sxk129 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 7:35 pm

    =================================
    First person to congratulate Brady was Calais Campbell.
    Now, THAT is a fact.
    ————————————————————–
    A referee was seen shaking the hand of the Jaguars QB prior to the game. Which according to patriot haters must be evidence that the game was fixed to help the Jaguars win. Even though many officials in all games are on a first name basis with players on all teams and they often are sociable with the players before and after games.

    Or maybe its just that Patriot haters have lost their minds and are now focused on inventing wild conspiracy theories.

  131. kingfish13 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 8:04 pm

    lots of sad obsessed haters ……
    to write off all of accomplishments of the last 17-18 years
    and chalk it up to refs,nfl bias, weak division, etc.
    is foolish and childish and deep down they know it.

    ———————————————————-
    This time the morons are being encouraged by professional morons in other sports markets who are paid to provide stupid commentary.

  132. psteelfan1 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 7:20 pm

    Oh yeah I’m fine. After the pit/ne game it was obvious who the nfl wanted in the SB but that doesn’t make it right.
    ————————————————————————————————————————
    It was brilliant of the NFL to instruct Ben to run a play on 3rd down where only two guys knew the call, and then fire the ball into a crowd rather than take the chip shot FG and force OT.

  133. factpurveyor says:
    January 23, 2018 at 8:16 pm
    kingfish13 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 8:04 pm

    lots of sad obsessed haters ……
    to write off all of accomplishments of the last 17-18 years
    and chalk it up to refs,nfl bias, weak division, etc.
    is foolish and childish and deep down they know it.

    ———————————————————-
    This time the morons are being encouraged by professional morons in other sports markets who are paid to provide stupid commentary.

    1 0 Rate This

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    boo hoo snowflakes. you will never get the respect you so desperately crave from the fanbase or the media. you are cheats. you will always be cheats. and even the games you play it straight, you will still get zero credit because you have built your reputation and your legacy will always be those of a team with zero integrity.
    keep crying about the disrespect. its very satisfying!

  134. dyims says:
    January 23, 2018 at 8:25 pm
    —————————
    boo hoo snowflakes. you will never get the respect you so desperately crave from the fanbase or the media. you are cheats. you will always be cheats. and even the games you play it straight, you will still get zero credit because you have built your reputation and your legacy will always be those of a team with zero integrity.
    keep crying about the disrespect. its very satisfying!

    ——————————————————————–

    It’s only jealous dimwits who still subscribe to that “cheat” nonsense.
    Intelligent fans of all 32 NFL teams were never fooled. A prime example is the Steeler fan who posted a video online. Anyone with enough working brain cells to work a computer and a browser can find the video on the popular online video site. Just search for “DEFLATE GATE & WHY SCIENCE SAYS THE PATRIOTS DID NOT TAMPER WITH FOOTBALLS”

  135. Rightly or Wrongly, the Patriots have a reputation for cheating.

    That is also a FACT.

  136. dyims says:
    January 23, 2018 at 8:25 pm
    factpurveyor says:
    January 23, 2018 at 8:16 pm
    kingfish13 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 8:04 pm

    lots of sad obsessed haters ……
    to write off all of accomplishments of the last 17-18 years
    and chalk it up to refs,nfl bias, weak division, etc.
    is foolish and childish and deep down they know it.

    ———————————————————-
    This time the morons are being encouraged by professional morons in other sports markets who are paid to provide stupid commentary.

    1 0 Rate This

    —————————
    boo hoo snowflakes. you will never get the respect you so desperately crave from the fanbase or the media. you are cheats. you will always be cheats. and even the games you play it straight, you will still get zero credit because you have built your reputation and your legacy will always be those of a team with zero integrity.
    keep crying about the disrespect. its very satisfying!

    ——————————————-
    yes boo hoo 😎

  137. you will always be cheats. and even the games you play it straight, you will still get zero credit because you have built your reputation and your legacy will always be those of a team with zero integrity.

    —-

    What you (and those like you) are missing from all of this is that we don’t care what you’ve decided based on accusations that we’re perpetrated by entities with the same human frailty behind it. It is and has been abundantly clear to anyone who’s comfortable with themselves that the Patriots are the best team of the last generation, most likely ever, and it isn’t even close.

    That said, repeating the “cheat” fallacy or ranking which teams have “integrity” remains useless for you. It makes you look like what you actually are—an excuse-making sore loser. If the titles and the achievements weren’t real, the Pats wouldn’t own them. It’s already been decided pal. Sorry you don’t like it, but we just don’t care. Good luck with your dysfunction—step one is admitting what you’ve witnessed is sheer excellence, and you can begin the healing.

  138. dyims says:
    January 23, 2018 at 8:25 pm
    —————————
    you will never get the respect you so desperately crave from the fanbase or the media. you are cheats. you will always be cheats. and even the games you play it straight, you will still get zero credit because you have built your reputation and your legacy will always be those of a team with zero integrity.
    ——————————————————————————————-
    We all understand that logic and reason will never convince the fanbase or media residing on the left side of the Bell Curve. We are happy to have them all remaining in agreement with you and we have no intention of ever changing that. The Gaussian distribution requires those people remain on the left side of the curve.

  139. dyims says:
    January 23, 2018 at 8:25 pm

    boo hoo snowflakes. you will never get the respect you so desperately crave from the fanbase or the media. you are cheats. you will always be cheats. and even the games you play it straight, you will still get zero credit because you have built your reputation and your legacy will always be those of a team with zero integrity.
    keep crying about the disrespect. its very satisfying!

    —————————————
    Honestly I dont know whether to laugh at you or cry for you.

  140. Easy to do when you’ve played in a non competitive division with no rival QB’s for nearly 20 years. If he played in the NFL of Montana’s era he’d have had far less playoff victories. Anyone with common sense sees the advantage Brady has had by being in a division with no QB’s during his tenure. Take like this years playoff pass, facing Mariota, Bortles, and now Foles. Not exactly Montana, Marino, or even Jim Kelly is it. The NFL has no real competition anymore. All the NFL has is NE and Belichick. So much for parity.

  141. LyinRogerMustGo says:
    January 23, 2018 at 4:15 pm
    Thanks for proving my point. Peyton > Marino > Brady.

    Brady only wins more because he’s on better teams and they cheat. Lol

    Now who’s mad bro. And Brady tells cameraman to eff off. Peyton would never do that.
    —-
    You really think Peyton had “less” lolololololololololol

    “””
    Sad delusional Pats fan.

    It’s a team sport and Brady has the best coach every year.

    Brady always had top 5 defenses and top 5 special teams and last 10 yrs top 5 offenses. Peyton had great offenses but defenses mostly bad or couldn’t stop run. Special teams have also fairer poorly and blown many FG’s.

    Why did Brady go 10 yrs w/o winning a super bowl if he’s so great. He’s benefited from great teams and the best coach. Brady told a cameraman to eff off twice. Classless

  142. Since the rule book does not apply to the Cheaters, he already has 10,000 post season passing yards. I believe it is closer to a zillion. Why do we even dispute his greatness?

  143. correcting some misleading statements here…

    “The ref was the first person to congratulate Brady after the game, fact”

    Did you also notice that one second later the same ref congratulated the Jaguars player who was right next to Brady, for a game well-played?

    trentdilfer08 says: “Man if every Great franchise could just play in the AFC east against that horrid competition.”

    Man if every the Patriots could just play in one one the 4 other divisions whose teams they have a BETTER record against than the AFC East with Brady as QB, including the AFC North, they would feast against that horrid competition.

  144. bonitalocal says:
    January 23, 2018 at 3:30 pm
    aarons444 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 1:45 pm
    Bart Starr

    9-1 postseason record

    Only QB in the Super Bowl-era to 3-peat

    104.8 rating (#1 all-time)
    —————————–

    It’s easy to be the best when there are only 4 teams.

    Why aren’t the Packers’ fans in full-hibernation right now?

    Go back to sleep, there is nothing here for you.

    ————————————————————————————

    Teams back then were deeper in talent than they are today. You had guys who couldn’t get on the field who would be All Pros today and that’s because of what you pointed out — there were fewer teams.
    And — if you realize what you’re saying, it’s that every team that made the post-season back then was stronger than these wild card teams of today. The Titans are a perfect example. They were a mediocre team all year, and yet they made the playoffs. Back then, they wouldn’t have had a sniff of post season.
    And — let’s put the rules the way they were back in the 60’s and watch the stats these QB’s and WR’s of today fall off a cliff, because they most certainly would.

  145. Cheated his way to many of those yards and will never be as great as cool Joe the original. Brady will got a lot of wins in that weak division full of scrub teams and still had to cheat his way through cell phones hahahaaaaaaa

  146. As a Patriots fan, my emotions are currently nowhere near ‘boohoo’ territory. In fact, contrary to what a lot of people think, even if they lose the SB, I won’t be boohoo-ing it…the Patriots are continuing their great run, and gave a chance to win it all once again. Sure I’ll be disappointed, but there’s a lot to be grateful for.

    There’s fans from a lot of teams that don’t even get that chance, or the possibility is gone too early each year. I’m not knocking those teams, but only one team gets to win it all, and I’m happy the Patriots gave been competitive enough year after year for a long time.

    At this point, winning the SB this year would be like putting sugar treats on top of the icing on the cake.

  147. i thumbs down your comment says:
    January 23, 2018 at 8:42 pm

    Rightly or Wrongly, the Patriots have a reputation for cheating.

    That is also a FACT.

    ———

    It sounds like you’re okay with it either way. Doesn’t matter if it’s wrong, as long as it’s the Patriots, you’re good.

    That would explain a lot of your comments here.

  148. if anyone else could have ever done close to what brady has done, they would have. but they couldn’t because they weren’t near as good.

    and brady had to do it under a lot tougher circumstances, he wasn’t surrounded by all pros, a team that could just outspend everyone and lock up talent for a career without free agency.

    bradshaw is man enough to hold brady’s cape, montana knows the truth too.

  149. Rightly or Wrongly, the Patriots have a reputation for cheating.

    ____________________

    And people who say “cheating” never, ever back it up with any facts. How many games and championships have the Patriots won since the spygate nonsense a freaking DECADE AGO? And don’t even mention deflategate, which was not only a joke, but wrongfully convicted and wrongfully took 4 games away from Brady. Winning the SB despite the league cheating them was the sweetest revenge the Patriots could have ever had.

  150. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    January 23, 2018 at 5:03 pm

    Belichick has more to do with 8 SB trips than Brady. Think about how Belichick turns the roster every year and still manages to field competitive teams in all phases, defense, offense, ST. Key players come and go but the team is still a competitive.

    Belichick can win SB playing great defense and a mediocre offense which was the case in the first 3 SBs. He can win with very good defense and very good offense like the last 2 SBs and will win another one this year too. Not saying Brady didn’t play a big part in the success but Belichick is the ultimate genius, wizard behind all the success.
    ======================
    Yet conveniently leaving out the cap friendly deals Brady gave the teams during his entire tenure. Not that it played a major role in allowing Belichick to do the very things suggested above. 🙂 Just sayin.

  151. psteelfan1 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 6:37 pm

    The call stood as a td? Because that’s what it should have been. He was not down by contact. It was reviewed whether it was a fumble but not if he was down by contact because the official was whistle happy. Had they not blown the play dead it could have been reviewed to be a td. I wasn’t questioning whether it was a fumble that was obvious. It should have been a td which would have made it 27-10 but instead the refs bailed out the pats again.
    ======================
    Since replay “proved” Mack wasn’t touched it stands to reason disagreement with the replay is perfectly acceptable. Which also means that courtesy can be extended tot he fumble itself. Which is to say the replay showed it wasn’t a fumble (despite being overturned) and is just as acceptable as it showing Mack was never touched.

  152. psteelfan1 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 6:50 pm
    Yeah the pats always follow the rules and don’t commit penalties. On the Jesse James catch the rule states must survive initial contact with ground which I believe his knee contacted the ground first not his arms. Irregardless if it was so obvious Al Riveron wouldn’t have reviewed it for 5 minutes. Cooks did the same thing almost against the Texans but hey what do you know, td of course. If it’s inconclusive which it was they should stay with call on the field which in James case was td. All the controversial calls benefit the pats. And yeah on the Lewis fumble the refs should not have blown the whistle it should have been td Jax.
    ========================
    Sigh – not a single controversial call has gone against the Pats. Ever.

    We know that isn’t the case so all of this boils down to keeping score over controversial calls that go for\against the Pats.

    #DefinitionOfWhining

  153. psteelfan1 says:
    January 23, 2018 at 7:20 pm
    Oh yeah I’m fine. After the pit/ne game it was obvious who the nfl wanted in the SB but that doesn’t make it right.
    ===========================
    It was the refs that threw that interception to seal the game?

  154. How many times has Brady played against a team as good as the 80s Bears, Redskins or Belichick Giants?
    /////////////
    How many times did they play against a quarterback as good as Brady?

  155. I’m calling BS. First it is said he’d thrown for 280 yards per game in eight Super Bowls. And now he’s poised to cross 10,000 yards? Let’s see the math: 8 X 280= 2240 yards. He’ll need to throw for 7,660 yards next Sunday to go over 10,000. But come on! 7,660 yards in a game? That’s one hell of a game.

  156. averagjoe says:
    January 30, 2018 at 3:11 am
    I’m calling BS. First it is said he’d thrown for 280 yards per game in eight Super Bowls. And now he’s poised to cross 10,000 yards? Let’s see the math: 8 X 280= 2240 yards. He’ll need to throw for 7,660 yards next Sunday to go over 10,000. But come on! 7,660 yards in a game? That’s one hell of a game.

    ******
    Hey Eeyore, it is 10,000 yards in the POSTSEASON not just the Super Bowl!

  157. CrustyChickenHawkBlackyBlack says:
    January 23, 2018 at 11:41 pm

    Cheated his way to many of those yards and will never be as great as cool Joe the original. Brady will got a lot of wins in that weak division full of scrub teams and still had to cheat his way through cell phones hahahaaaaaa
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    Uh…Patriots fans are the only ones laughing right now, skippy.
    And by all means, please explain to us how great that NFC West was during the 1980’s?

  158. How many times has Brady played against a team as good as the 80s Bears, Redskins or Belichick Giants?
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    How many times did they play against a quarterback as good as Brady?
    =====

    The Giants nearly ended Montana’s career… TWICE!

    I don’t recall Gibbs ever beating Montana in the Playoffs.

    Those 3 and Ditka’s Bears slugging it out… the best era of football. Epic.

    Brady hasn’t beaten ANYONE, REMOTELY close to that level.

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