MLB forces Cleveland to relinquish offensive logo

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Get a load of this. In other popular sports, when teams persist in perpetuating offensive stereotypes, the league office does something about it.

According to David Waldstein of the New York Times, the Cleveland baseball team will stop using their grinning caricature Chief Wahoo logo in 2019, since the league office declared it no longer appropriate.

Hmm.

There have been protests over the use of the cartoon interpretation of a Native American for years, and the team has gradually stepped away from its daily use. But now, commissioner Rob Manfred has finally pressured Cleveland owner Paul Dolan to get rid of it for good.

Manfred said in a statement that the team “ultimately agreed with my position that the logo is no longer appropriate for on-field use in Major League Baseball, and I appreciate Mr. Dolan’s acknowledgment that removing it from the on-field uniform by the start of the 2019 season is the right course.”

“We have consistently maintained that we are cognizant and sensitive to both sides of the discussion,” Dolan said in a statement issued by the league. “While we recognize many of our fans have a longstanding attachment to Chief Wahoo, I’m ultimately in agreement with Commissioner Manfred’s desire to remove the logo from our uniforms in 2019.”

The team will continue to sell existing stock featuring the logo, but the league’s website won’t sell it any longer, and it won’t be featured on uniforms or the stadium.

Of course, a percentage of the team’s fans will rally behind the old logo, and Dolan going #bothsides in a statement that may or may not have involved his arm being twisted behind his back won’t do anything to deter that minority which insists on retaining its right to offend another minority.

Then again, obstinate defiance in the face of something that’s clearly offensive is nothing new. In other popular sports. Or so we’ve heard.

58 responses to “MLB forces Cleveland to relinquish offensive logo

  1. “What’s next? Banning cartoon editorials of our presidents with exaggerated features?”

    There’s quite a difference between making a humorous image of a president as opposed to insulting an entire race. That’s an invalid comparison.

    Though I do agree with you there has to be a balance on the PC front.

  2. Welcome to capitalism, people.

    If your conduct is offensive, it hurts the product and profits.

    The outrage by the far right is interesting. The league took action to protect the product. That is what happens when the market dictates the product. That’s how it works.

  3. honalulublue says:
    January 29, 2018 at 1:50 pm
    BS! What’s next? Banning cartoon editorials of our presidents with exaggerated features? This land of PC is NOT the America I love or want.

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    Its all about who is being depicted. Some people you can dump on every way imaginable and its not just allowed but even celebrated by many. Some are taboo not to be touched or that same many will object.

  4. All those snowflakes who ditched the NFL for more baseball are freaking out right now.

    Personally, I support and respect private businesses. Dolan is a rich man, he knows what’s good for himself and the game of baseball. 🙂

  5. Snyder will never cave and I respect him for that. What is so offensive about being the mascot of a wildly successful sports franchise? How is it offensive at all? Just because they are using a certain race of human as their mascot to represent their team, THAT’S offensive? It would be different if they were using it in a disrespectful way, but come on. People will complain about anything these days.

  6. Maybe they can just rename to the Cleveland Buttercups…. but then that might offend someone.

    How is a grinning indian offensive?

  7. If you are really really really bothered that a team would be asked to change a logo, you are pretty much the definition of “snowflake.”

    Sorry boys, but at times businesses will do things that you don’t like. That’s that nature of business, whether you snowflakes like it or not.

  8. Arm twisting is a polite way of saying outright blackmail was done to make this happen. Threats were made and this is the result. And it’s not the right side doing this it’s the left side.

  9. pubesoap says:

    January 29, 2018 at 2:15 pm

    If they truly thought it offensive then it would be discontinued immediately. Not next season.
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    Gotta make sure they sell as many shirts/hats with the logo on it this year before discontinuing it.

  10. Baseball is experiencing a slow and inevitable death. The average age of a baseball viewer is 53 years old. The game is from a slower age. Baseball is struggling to find ways to make the game appealing to todays tech generation. Pace of game rules will have no effect in changing baseball’s downward trajectory. Baseball is going the way of board games.

  11. Lads, if you are offended by other names or logos, feel free to have your voices heard.

    In the meantime “others are doing it” is no more effective a defense than “other drivers were speeding too.”

    That being said, it seems deplorable that people would get so angry that a team would care about not annoying customers.

  12. therealraider says:

    January 29, 2018 at 2:26 pm

    Baseball is experiencing a slow and inevitable death. The average age of a baseball viewer is 53 years old. The game is from a slower age. Baseball is struggling to find ways to make the game appealing to todays tech generation. Pace of game rules will have no effect in changing baseball’s downward trajectory. Baseball is going the way of board games.
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    Next winter is going to be very telling about the state of baseball as they are scheduled to have some big name free agents and this year the free agent market has been extremely slow. It’s a few weeks from spring training and a lot of good players don’t have teams because money isn’t getting thrown around like it usually is at free agents

  13. Baseball is going the way of board games.

    Board game sales are surging. It’s a $10 billion dollar a year industry and growing.

  14. Only the Indians uniform will change, team licensed items with the Wahoo logo will still be sold at the stadium and NE Ohio stores so the change is somewhat cosmetic because the fans will still be wearing and the team will still be profiting from the logo.

  15. I hope those that are angry at the league’s decision will find a safe space full of other like minded snowflakes.

    For the rest of us, life goes on. Well done MLB.

  16. It’s the University of North Dakota Fighting Sioux to me.

    That one was the worst, because soon after the main UND donor (Ralph Englestad) died they went against his wishes and changed the name and sweet logo. And, it was the “Fighting Sioux”. Nothing disrespectful at all.

    UND Fighting Hawks? Really?

  17. Many people find the kneeling during the National Anthem to be offensive. But those kneeling claim they are not being disrespectful and those offended should get iver it. Now let’s apply that same logic to the names and logos of all existing professional sports teams.

  18. JagsBoss,

    You realize that many who now are outraged that Cleveland would change the logo claimed they were going to boycott the NFL?

    Apparently, outrage only matters to them when they can the views expressed are contrary to the far right.

  19. “political correctness is just fascism pretending to be manners.” – George Carlin
    Who are you to tell me what is offensive? The first amendment was written to protect ALL speech, especially that which you find offensive. That’s the whole point of the first amendment. You don’t like something? Tough crap. Toughen up snowflake.

  20. Mongo,

    The White House has that name because it is factually correct, i.e the house is white.

    Are you claiming the logo is factually correct? Is that really your argument? That native Americans have those features?

    You are not exactly helping your case.

  21. Sladewilson85,

    As Americans, we should know about our Constitution.

    This has zero to do with the First Amendment or free speech.

    Businesses are making a decision they believe to be in the interest of the business.

    It is not a violation of any right.

  22. Of course, to the American majority race it’s PC policing. But to the people that were systematically slaughtered by this nation, a little over a hundred years ago, it’s not so PC. Maybe some of you should ask how those people actually feel, they’re stil alive – the few of them.

  23. WolfgangVomFramps says:

    January 29, 2018 at 1:57 pm

    Welcome to capitalism, people.

    If your conduct is offensive, it hurts the product and profits.

    The outrage by the far right is interesting. The league took action to protect the product. That is what happens when the market dictates the product. That’s how it works.
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    obviously that word does not mean what you think it does. There’s nothing in the article about declining sales because of the logo.

  24. But they are still going to be called the Indians? isn’t that offensive too? (I mean I heard it was, I really have a hard time keeping up)

  25. WolfgangVomFramps says:
    January 29, 2018 at 2:27 pm
    That being said, it seems deplorable that people would get so angry that a team would care about not annoying customers.
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    Well, if the team was doing it, that’s one thing – but try reading the title of the article “MLB forces Cleveland…” – so, it’s not the customers of the team in Cleveland, but the suits at MLB who are making this happen.

    This is what happens when snowflakes are let loose in the wild.

  26. WolfgangVomFramps says:

    January 29, 2018 at 3:54 pm

    Peyton,

    The business made a decision. That’s capitalism.

    You don’t like that decision and you want it reversed.
    In a free market system, it is not your choice
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    Wolfie – who said I want it reversed, I couldn’t care less one way or the other and yes business have the right to do what they want. My point is “capitalism” as you call it didn’t cause the change, it was either fear or a legitimate attempt to do what they thought was right but “capitalism” never entered the picture.

  27. mantastic54 says:
    January 29, 2018 at 2:10 pm

    Isn’t Yankee a derogatory term?
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    Not unlike some other words whether or not Yankee is derogatory depends on who is using it. You can rest assured regardless of the different reasons for it when spoken with a southern or Boston accent it is undoubtedly being spoken derogatorily. Of course when spoken with a Boston accent the words preceding it are usually a pretty fair indicator as well.

  28. I”ve been and Indian fan for over 60 years. Even as I child I knew that Chief Wahoo was just a cartoon, not a “real” Indian, (like Jay Silverheels). Having said that, I have no problem taking Wahoo off the uniform, and out of circulation completely if they want to. Heck, I won’t care if they change the name of the entire team. It’s not up to me,a while male, to decide what’s offensive to someone else. And to those complaining about how sensitive people are protesting something like a team logo, you’re doing the same thing. So, lighten up; it’s just a cartoon logo, folks. It’s not the end of the world. Life goes on. In five years the Chief will be a fond memory and I’ll still root for any team from Cleveland.

  29. Well, on to the next thing to be deemed offensive. How about the Saints flyer-de-lis. Which was used to brand slaves.

  30. Poll the Indians in this country and ask them if they are offended by the logo and I guarantee you over 90% aren’t offended at all. Just like the poll they did about the Redskins that was over 90%. The only ones offended are white liberals with big mouths. The Fighting Sioux lost their logo and they never bothered to even let the Sioux tribe vote on it. Again because the outright majority of the tribe was proud of the name AND the cool logo.

  31. Only the Irish can be be made a caricature of, be called drunkards, or be segregated because they are white minorities. If they were a preferred minority with more melanin they would have warranted protection by banning the Notre Dame offensive logo and knick name decades ago.

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