Chiefs put all their faith in Patrick Mahomes

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The late-night agreement to trade Alex Smith to Washington has made it clear: Patrick Mahomes is the man in Kansas City.

The Chiefs made it clear that they saw Mahomes as their starter of the future on draft day last year, when they used two first-round picks to move up and draft Mahomes. What wasn’t clear was whether Mahomes would start in 2018, or in 2019 after Smith’s contract with the Chiefs expired.

Now it is clear that the Chiefs saw enough of Mahomes, both on the practice field and in the Week 17 game he started, that they’re sure they can move on from Smith.

Smith threw for a career-high 4,042 yards, with 26 touchdowns and five interceptions, while leading the Chiefs to the playoffs. You don’t get rid of a quarterback coming off a season like that unless you’re sure the young rookie you drafted is ready to replace him.

So the Chiefs are sure about Mahomes. Ready or not, Mahomes is now the face of the franchise.

73 responses to “Chiefs put all their faith in Patrick Mahomes

  1. It made no sense to give up anything to get him. Imagine if those picks had helped the Chiefs win…this year. I mean…if he’s there when you pick fine..but to move up. And to give up Smith..when you are close..for an unknown. Good luck. They should have drafted someone this year…let Smith finish the contract and then leave…

  2. I love how Cheaps fans talk about Mahomes like he’s a sure thing when he only played in 1 game and had 1 INT and 0 TD’s.

  3. Good move for both teams and Alex Smith. Fuller is a future star in my opinion and a big price for Redskins to give up.

  4. I think the Chiefs just got tired of Alex Smith’s inability in the playoffs. He may not turn the ball over much but when you’re as vanilla a QB as Smith is it is easy for the Chiefs to want to move on to the younger Mahomes.

    Smith also lost at home to Marcus Mariota.

  5. We’ve seen in the last couple of years that, if you’re serious about being a long-term contender, you have to commit to a young QB in the draft, and be willing to give up the resources needed to get one (Wentz, Goff, Watson) as well as put a solid plan in place for developing him, so this move to Mahomes makes sense. Difference is you’re given up a proven commodity in Smith for an unknown, whereas those other situations were much clearer. Andy’s gotta get this right, or he’ll be gone at the end of next year.

  6. The Chiefs GM and Andy Reid totally robbed the Redskins. When will teams realize that trading with Reid for his used up QBs will not end well.
    The Chiefs are now set with the best young QB in the game, another shutdown QB to go alongside Marcus Peters, and extra 3rd round pick, 17 million extra in cap space.
    Wow, 1 or two good Free Agent signings, a solid Draft, and Kansas City is your new front runner for the Lombardi next season.
    Mahomes is a future HOFer, and the best young QB in the game. Hear me now, believe me later

  7. The Eagles did the same thing when they decided to gamble on Carson Wentz and let Sam Bradford go. Bradford and Smith were both former number one picks, but hadn’t shown they were ready to take a team to the super bowl. The Eagles gamble is definitely paying off. Wentz has led them to the super bowl in only his second year. A lot of critics didn’t see that happening with a guy from a small school. Those same critics are now questioning Mahomes.

  8. Pretty sure the Titans game was all they needed to see to conclude that, despite Smith’s excellent year and fine stats, the team wasn’t getting over that hump with him at QB.

  9. Sorry Chiefs fans. Alex Smith was probably never going to get you to a SB, but at least he could get you to the playoffs. Prepare for some lean years because Mahomes didn’t show anything special when he played. His career tragectory will mirror Kizer’s. None of the QBs in last year’s draft will amount to anything now that Watson got hurt.

  10. Mahomes looked good in preseason and then the garbage game start at the end of the season. Things are going to get more difficult for him though when there is tape out there and coordinators have time to break down his weaknesses. I would imagine the playbook is going to have to be trimmed down a bit as I highly doubt Mahomes is going to have the grasp of it after one year that Alex Smith had after 4-5 years.

    Prediction-the Chiefs take a big step back next season due not only to the QB change, but also the lack of a first round draft choice. As the season wore on, it became clear there was not a great deal of depth at key positions

  11. I am not sold on Mahomes being the Chiefs starter next year. Andy Reid and Doug Pederson have a long history together. Nick Foles and Carson Wentz both can’t start for the Eagles next year. Andy drafted Foles. Foles has clearly shown he can play at a high level again. Andy had Foles on the Chiefs once already and he played well in relief of Smith when asked to do so.

  12. The Skins had to also give Chiefs a promising young CB (Fuller) and a 3rd rd pick to seal the deal, all to get a similar quality QB who is 4yrs older. Or consider paying Kirk $34M for a 3rd tag. Even so, Smith will cost the Skins $94M (4yrs, $23.5M/yr, with $72M guaranteed), which is more than they were offering Kirk (5yrs, $110M = $22M/yr, $53M guaranteed).

    Some are saying this proves the Skins were right to play hardball with Kirk, but all it did was create uncertainty about their way forward for 2yrs (and cost them extra during those 2yrs) and then lose a corner and a mid-pick into the bargain, all for a notably older QB. How is that a great strategy?

  13. I don’t get all the Chief hate on the trade. Smith did a nice job for the team while in KC, but he is aging, has a popgun arm, the Chiefs drafted their new franchise QB last year, the team saves a bundle on the cap in ’18, and KC gets some nice compensation to boot. Seems like a no-brainer for KC.

  14. joetoronto says:
    January 31, 2018 at 6:20 am
    I love how Cheaps fans talk about Mahomes like he’s a sure thing when he only played in 1 game and had 1 INT and 0 TD’s.
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    You’re just mad because you STILL have the 3rd best QB in the division.

  15. When it comes to big decisions, Andy Reid gets them right. He drafted Mahomes and had him sit behind Smith to learn the NFL game. He got into a game and looked promising. When it comes to gametime decisions, Andy Reid will usually get them wrong.

  16. The playoff losses by the Chiefs had more to do with coaching and play calling than they did with Alex Smith. History shows that Andy Reid, whom I have liked as as a really good in-season HC, has shown nothing in the post season. Same for the DC Bob Sutton. Pick any QB in the league and put him where Smith was, and the results would look much the same. Alex Smith will do great work under Jay Gruden. I am glad for him.

  17. That is a brave move with KC going all in on Mahomes. Are they playing for 2018 or 2019? A 3rd rounder plus a starting safety is pretty darn good for Smith with only one year left on his contract. They could have played it safe and played Smith for one more year but they bet big. If they can get Smith-like performance from a developing Mahomes next year, plus an upgrade to an already good defense, plus an extra pick, KC could be pretty dangerous next year. Admirable and we will see if it is genius, folly or something in between.

  18. Mahomes is a special player. Chiefs’ fans are going to love this kid. I think Andy Reid might finally win that super bowl. He’s never had a QB as elite as Mahomes.

  19. I think it’s a good move by the Chiefs. The truth is they were never going to win a Super Bowl with Alex Smith anyway.
    I’ve been hearing Boomer Esiason rave about Mahomes for a couple of years now. He really thinks the kid is going to be an excellent starting QB in the NFL.
    As we’ve seen with Carson Wentz, talent can overcome inexperience.

  20. Desperate people do desperate things..
    The Chefs may start out fooling their fans as usual, but will crash and burn again….as usual.

  21. jstew0103 says:
    January 31, 2018 at 6:35 am
    Smith also lost at home to Marcus Mariota.
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    I can’t stand people that think like this. Mariota and Smith are not on the field at the same time, just like this coming Superbowl is NOT Brady vs. Foles. Smith lost to the Texans D and the Chiefs D lost to Mariota.

  22. streetyson says:
    January 31, 2018 at 7:41 am
    The Skins had to also give Chiefs a promising young CB (Fuller) and a 3rd rd pick to seal the deal, all to get a similar quality QB who is 4yrs older. Or consider paying Kirk $34M for a 3rd tag. Even so, Smith will cost the Skins $94M (4yrs, $23.5M/yr, with $72M guaranteed), which is more than they were offering Kirk (5yrs, $110M = $22M/yr, $53M guaranteed).

    Some are saying this proves the Skins were right to play hardball with Kirk, but all it did was create uncertainty about their way forward for 2yrs (and cost them extra during those 2yrs) and then lose a corner and a mid-pick into the bargain, all for a notably older QB. How is that a great strategy?

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    The writing is on the wall, they’re drafting a young QB in the 1st.. And Smith can mentor him. Meanwhile in KC, who knows, by the time Mahomes develops, guess what you’re gonna have to resign Peters AND Fuller. What did Norman get? You gonna pay that twice?????

  23. Andy Reid teams have a history of underachieving. I have no doubt that the Chiefs will have a few games that Mahomes excels and then fade out for the Playoff

  24. joetoronto says:

    January 31, 2018 at 6:20 am

    I love how Cheaps fans talk about Mahomes like he’s a sure thing when he only played in 1 game and had 1 INT and 0 TD’s.
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    As a fan to the AFC West Division Champion Kansas City Chiefs I actually have not heard this.. I do recall your new “Sure Thing” Head Coach pick Mahomes as his Top Pick for that draft class though…

  25. The Chiefrs are daring to be Great. They could have stuck with Smith and likely lose in round 1 of playoffs again. All Chiefs Fans are Very Excited Today that Patrick Mahomes is our starting QB. We are also pretty damn happy that Kendall Fuller will be lining up opposite marcus peters. Today is a Great Day to be a Chiefs fan.

  26. patfic5 says:
    January 31, 2018 at 8:29 am
    Typically the QBs who replace Alex Smith blow.

    Are you basing that solely on colin kapernick? Nick Foles replaced alex for 2 games last year, and he is in the super bowl. Not exactly Blowing.

  27. joetoronto says:
    January 31, 2018 at 6:20 am
    I love how Cheaps fans talk about Mahomes like he’s a sure thing when he only played in 1 game and had 1 INT and 0 TD’s.

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    Unlike the bust in Oakland….at least the jury is still out on Mahomes. And KC is not paying the kid $25M per year

  28. kcflake says:

    January 31, 2018 at 9:40 am

    patfic5 says:
    January 31, 2018 at 8:29 am
    Typically the QBs who replace Alex Smith blow.

    Are you basing that solely on colin kapernick? Nick Foles replaced alex for 2 games last year, and he is in the super bowl. Not exactly Blowing.
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    Foles is not in the SB without Carson…

  29. “Mahomes is a future HOFer, and the best young QB in the game. Hear me now, believe me later”

    Lolz lets look at some past PFT posting claims –

    Logicalvoicesays – “RGIII is the best QB in history and the Redskins will win multiple Super Bowls the next 5 years”

    PFTPoet – “Teddy Bridgewater is going to win multiple Super Bowls and is the best QB any of you will ever see”

    I could go on but I think that’s enough to prove my point. Might want to wait till Mahomes plays a few more games before you declare him a HOF level player.

  30. Reid is the best QB coach of his era. Frankly, when has any of his QBsf ailed. Gees, once upon a time, Eagle fans thought that Mike Kaufka was the QBOF, lol. Also, people lauding Alex Smith seem to forget who he was before Reid, even with his year and a half under Harbaugh. He was mediocre. Reid has gotten much, much better than that out of him just like McNabb, just like Michael Vick, just like Kevin Kolb. They all had their best years with him and struggled to put it mildly away from him. It’s what I say about QBs like the Robert Griffins of the world when they bust. Go to get with Reid. If he can’t fix you, no one can.

    Mahomes will be fine. It’s probably the first top end athletic talent he’s ever had to work with since McNabb nearly 20 years ago, even with all of his footwork flaws coming into the draft last year, and let’s not forget that McNabb was an option QB. Nobody remembered that by year 2.

  31. “The Chiefs are now set with the best young QB in the game, another shutdown QB to go alongside Marcus Peters”
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    Can’t ever have enough shutdown QBs on your team.

  32. so Mahomes was so lights out in practice you trade Alex Smith?? If he was that great why didn’t he start when the Chiefs were melting down mid season….I don’t see this gamble ending well at all Chiefs fans….

  33. Makes sense for the Chiefs, but what are Redskins thinking? Giving up a promising young corner and a 3rd round pick while downgrading the quartback position? I don’t get it.

  34. jquaste ,

    How is it a downgrade? What is Cousins best win since he’s been the starter? We’ll all wait. Smith has beaten New Orleans in the playoffs and put up 42 on the Colts when Andy Reid’s team melted down just like it did 3 weeks ago with a 20-3 lead or whatever it was at halftime with KC. So while he’s not Tom Brady, he’s better than Cousins who hasn’t beat anyone of consequence ever in his career.

    Furthermore, they allegedly offered him essentially the same deal a year ago, and he turned it down while playing a martyr in the media (he learned well as a Mike Shanahan teacher’s pet). Now, they actually have a clear vision to move forward which entails their QB counting a set amount (less than Cousins has the last 2 years on their cap) and the ability to draft another developmental player at that position to take over there in a couple of years. Also, people seem to bring up Smith’s age but forget that Cousins is 30 himself.

  35. Salty Alex Smith’s fans are all over this thread. The Chiefs gave him an opportunity and just like in San Francisco, he couldn’t deliver. Captain checkdown who melts after little pressure is put on him is all Alex Smith will ever be.

  36. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    January 31, 2018 at 11:14 am
    Salty Alex Smith’s fans are all over this thread. The Chiefs gave him an opportunity and just like in San Francisco, he couldn’t deliver. Captain checkdown who melts after little pressure is put on him is all Alex Smith will ever be.

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    When was the last time one of your Jets QB’s delivered Jets’ fan?

  37. I keep seeing the ‘unknown” label slapped on Mahomes. While that’s partially true, there is no unknown with Alex Smith. Everyone in KC knows exactly what he is capable of. And it’s not enough to get to the promised land. Not even close. Unlike Alex, the Chiefs decided to take a chance. A bold move that’s counter to everything Alex is about. He’s a coward, and Skins fans will fall asleep watching him play his little heart out. This is one of the best trades in Chiefs history.

  38. Different isn’t always better but better is always different.

    Whatever this ends up being, it won’t be another 9-7 or 10-6 season with a first round playoff loss.

  39. nhpats says:
    January 31, 2018 at 11:36 am
    patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    January 31, 2018 at 11:14 am
    Salty Alex Smith’s fans are all over this thread. The Chiefs gave him an opportunity and just like in San Francisco, he couldn’t deliver. Captain checkdown who melts after little pressure is put on him is all Alex Smith will ever be.

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    When was the last time one of your Jets QB’s delivered Jets’ fan?

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    McCown out played Alex just this season. Anything else you don’t know anything about that someone needs to inform you of?

  40. If you trade two first-round picks to draft a QB, you have a big opinion on him. If you trade a quality starter in order to allow the QB you drafted to start, you still have a big opinion on him. I think it’s pretty likely the Chiefs take a step back from this year because it would be tough to put up the numbers Smith did in your first year starting, but long term they must feel pretty confident that Mahomes is going to do really well.

  41. I’m absolutely dumbfounded reading these Chief fans comments about how bad Alex Smith is/was in the playoffs. They’re totally giving Reid a pass for his awful coaching and guess what, that’s not going to stop with Mahomes at QB…good luck with your 4 wins next year.

  42. george1859 says:
    January 31, 2018 at 7:58 am
    Desperate people do desperate things..
    The Chefs may start out fooling their fans as usual, but will crash and burn again….as usual.

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    I think we all know who the desperate team was in this deal. And it sure as hell wasn’t the Chiefs.

  43. you all know they are the same QB, right? Solid, dependable with good stats but never a real threat to take over a game. Not bad…but never great. The redskins just traded for the same thing they already had….maybe for a lower price.

  44. I hate to see Alex go but with no cap space and much needed fixes on defense they had to make the move. I believe Dorsey is no longer with the Chiefs because of mismanaging the cap. 2018 will be 8-8, 2019 we will return to the playoffs.

  45. nhpats says:
    January 31, 2018 at 11:36 am

    When was the last time one of your Jets QB’s delivered Jets’ fan?
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    Way back before Neil Armstrong flubbed his line whilst stepping off of the Lunar Lander.

  46. If the Chiefs have a setback next season, it will be because of their defense, and not because of Mahomes.

  47. Forget about doubling down; the Chiefs went all in. They have guts and I hope Mahomes can manage the pressure and expectations and show some spark or there will be a whole new regime in KC in 2019. As a Skins Fan I would be a lot happier if we didn’t include Fuller and instead gave a 5th or 6th rounder, but they made the best of a bad hand and bought themselves two years or so to find a long term answer.

  48. Until they fix the problem of an arch-conservative coach who gets in his own head late in games, the Chiefs will remain upside limited. It’s a shame too because Chiefs fans are great.

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