Tom Brady wins MVP honors for a third time

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Tom Brady hadn’t won the MVP award since the 2010 season, but he won it for a third time on Saturday night.

The Patriots quarterback had injured receiver Julian Edelman accept the award on his behalf near the end of the two-hour NFL Honors show, which will air on NBC at 9 p.m. ET. Brady also won the award in 2007 as well as 2010.

Brady garnered 40 votes to eight for Todd Gurley and two for Carson Wentz. The vote likely would have been closer if Wentz hadn’t injured his knee in Week 14.

Brady, 40, is the oldest player to win the award, and he’s eight years older than the coach of the year, Sean McVay. Rich Gannon (37 in 2002) and Peyton Manning (37 in 2013) previously were the oldest winners of the MVP award.

According to Field Yates of ESPN, Brady, at 40 years, 6 months, is the oldest MVP in the history of the four major North American sports leagues. Barry Bonds was 40 years, 4 months when he won baseball’s MVP award in 2004.

Brady passed for 4,577 yards and 32 touchdowns with eight interceptions and a 102.8 passer rating.

150 responses to “Tom Brady wins MVP honors for a third time

  1. Congrats you old GOAT! So why isn’t he also offensive MVP? And the fact that Matt Ryan was given it last year shows the idiocy of always voting ahead of the postseason.

  2. Here come the fools claiming he does not deserve it, or that he only won it because of the refs, or he only won it because the Patriots cheated. He lost one of his best and most trusted weapons in Edelman for the season. Gronk missed multiple games (3 I think), Hogan missed multiple games (5 I think) among other injuries (Burkhead for example). Bottom line is Brady showed again why he is so great this year.

  3. The haters want him replaced. His passer rating, completion %, and yards per completion were better than his career average.

  4. For anyone whining about Brady’s stats… look at PeHGHton’s stats from his MVP year in 2008.

    Yeah that’s what I thought.

    Sit down and zip it!

    🙂

  5. Good for him Carson Wentz tore his ACL otherwise might not have received it this year. For all you Patriot homers out there it’s the truth. Wentz was as good or better stat wise at the time of injury but then we could also maybe have added Watson. Uhhhh….the injuries this year. So sad. Also FYI everyone McVay is a stud Coach but Pederson deserved the coach of the year and is proving it all throughout the playoffs.

  6. streetyson says:

    February 3, 2018 at 8:16 pm

    Congrats you old GOAT! So why isn’t he also offensive MVP? And the fact that Matt Ryan was given it last year shows the idiocy of always voting ahead of the postseason
    ____________________
    Postseason has nothing to do with the awards.

  7. Congrats to Brady, the coaching staff, and team.

    Can’t wait for the regular cast of haters to chime in. Cheater, system QB, overrated, can only throw throw 5 yards passes, the fix is in, Goodell demanded it…..

    One word: Deserving

  8. bos8888 says:
    February 3, 2018 at 8:19 pm
    Here come the fools claiming he does not deserve it, or that he only won it because of the refs, or he only won it because the Patriots cheated. He lost one of his best and most trusted weapons in Edelman for the season. Gronk missed multiple games (3 I think), Hogan missed multiple games (5 I think) among other injuries (Burkhead for example). Bottom line is Brady showed again why he is so great this year.

    —-
    It really is a no brainer.

    Brown was NOT even the MVP on his own team.
    Gurley had an excellent season but not a historic one that would take the award away from its tradition as a QB award.
    Wentz missed 20% of the season.

    Great season. Well deserved.

  9. Irish Hoodlum says:
    February 3, 2018 at 8:26 pm

    Good for him Carson Wentz tore his ACL otherwise might not have received it this year.
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    Injuries are part of the game, unfortunately, and Went could very well have won had he stayed in the line-up. He’ll have many more chances one would assume.

  10. Irish Hoodlum says:
    February 3, 2018 at 8:26 pm
    Good for him Carson Wentz tore his ACL otherwise might not have received it this year. For all you Patriot homers out there it’s the truth. Wentz was as good or better stat wise at the time of injury but then we could also maybe have added Watson. Uhhhh….the injuries this year. So sad. Also FYI everyone McVay is a stud Coach but Pederson deserved the coach of the year andIrish Hoodlum says:
    February 3, 2018 at 8:26 pm
    Good for him Carson Wentz tore his ACL otherwise might not have received it this year. For all you Patriot homers out there it’s the truth. Wentz was as good or better stat wise at the time of injury but then we could also maybe have added Watson. Uhhhh….the injuries this year. So sad. Also FYI everyone McVay is a stud Coach but Pederson deserved the coach of the year and

    —————-

    Seriously?! Your calling out “Patriots Homer’s” and you are saying , “yeah but Wentz would’ve won it” AND “Pederson deserved it…”

    That is called hypocrisy!! Wentz had a phenomenal year. Pederson has a great year. Come on ! Stop calling out homers, homer!

  11. Theevidencesaysotherwise says:
    February 3, 2018 at 8:27 pm
    Brady now has 2 things in common with Barry Bonds.

    Both over 40 when winning MVP and both cheaters. Lol
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    I don’t think you know what Lol stands for. What you are looking for is WAAAH

  12. elmerbrownelmerbrown says:
    February 3, 2018 at 8:22 pm
    Not begrudging Tom but 2 votes for Carson Wentz is a disgrace

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    Totally. No beef with Tom winning, but what’s with the 2 votes? Amnesia? Did voters forget the incredible things that kid was doing until his tore the ACL? Whatever…the big prize is tomorrow.

  13. dsather23 says:
    February 3, 2018 at 8:33 pm
    And with that award, the Eagles win the Super Bowl.

    The MVP curse is real.

    —-
    There’s always a first time. 🙂

  14. Says more about Belicheck than anything. I’d still take Rodgers and Marino over Brady every day of the week and if you flopped him with 5-6 current NFL QBs they’d have just as much success.

  15. Brady and Bonds share the same dealer. Both over 40 and still winning MVP’s. If y’all can sit here and say it’s all because of his diet, I want some of what you’re smoking. We’ll find out soon that Brady prefers the clear over the cream and he has track marks in between his toes…lmao. Gurley was robbed. But in this era of the NFL, they made it purposely to over inflate QB numbers and to purposely score more offensive points. Gurley absolutely carried that team and won them games by himself. But just another instance of the NFL on its knees for Brady. Enjoy it because in maybe two more years, they’ll be back in the basement and the we’ll see how many real Patriots fans there are at that point. Fake fans especially when back in the days of metal bleachers in Foxboro, you couldn’t give tickets away and opposing teams fans would outnumber the Patriots fans. I witnessed it time and time again.

  16. “Irish Hoodlum says:February 3, 2018 at 8:26 pm Good for him Carson Wentz tore his ACL otherwise might not have received it this year.”

    Ah, the ol’ coulda woulda shoulda commment.

  17. sbhntr says:
    February 3, 2018 at 8:27 pm
    I have been fortunate t have seen Bobby Orr , Larry bird , and Tom Brady in my lifetime

    ISN’T THAT THE TRUTH.

    Something about the spirit daily towards professional sports in Boston….separates it from everywhere else…And you can throw in Bill Russell with the above…All winners.

  18. Crazy to say, but with all his incredible success in the most macho of sports, good looks, and graciousness Brady may have married down in only grabbing a super-model that makes $50MIL/year. #HotTake

  19. dsather23 says:
    February 3, 2018 at 8:33 pm
    And with that award, the Eagles win the Super Bowl.

    The MVP curse is real.

    So was the Madden curse, until Tom broke it this year. So, better pin your hopes on something else.

  20. All the Brady haters will say this is proof that Brady has lost a step and is obviously in a downward spiral. ONLY 40 votes for MVP? They’ll be calling for him to retire as he’s clearly over the hill

  21. Totally. No beef with Tom winning, but what’s with the 2 votes? Amnesia? Did voters forget the incredible things that kid was doing until his tore the ACL? Whatever…the big prize is tomorrow.

    I think Wentz may well have won it had he seen the season out, but I guess what did not help him is that Foles came in and took the Eagles to the Super Bowl so how ‘Valuable’ is Wentz. I know the award is a regular season award but people cannot help but influenced to some degree by what happens after he went out injured.

    As a Patriots fan I am happy for Brady if for no other reason than I think there are one or two seasons he perhaps should have won it but did not. Lets be honest here it is and always has been a high subjective and controversial award anyway!

  22. finzd54 says:
    February 3, 2018 at 8:40 pm

    Brady and Bonds share the same dealer. Both over 40 and still winning MVP’s. If y’all can sit here and say it’s all because of his diet, I want some of what you’re smoking. We’ll find out soon that Brady prefers the clear over the cream and he has track marks in between his toes…lmao. Gurley was robbed. But in this era of the NFL, they made it purposely to over inflate QB numbers and to purposely score more offensive points. Gurley absolutely carried that team and won them games by himself. But just another instance of the NFL on its knees for Brady. Enjoy it because in maybe two more years, they’ll be back in the basement and the we’ll see how many real Patriots fans there are at that point. Fake fans especially when back in the days of metal bleachers in Foxboro, you couldn’t give tickets away and opposing teams fans would outnumber the Patriots fans. I witnessed it time and time again.

    Thanks for the update. You do sound like a bitter, delusional old man.

  23. “MVP? He is a SYSTEM QB. Take him out of this offense and he’d be nothing”

    LOL, keep melting.

  24. LyinRogerMustGo says:
    February 3, 2018 at 8:37 pm
    dsather23 says:
    February 3, 2018 at 8:33 pm
    And with that award, the Eagles win the Super Bowl.

    The MVP curse is real.

    —-
    There’s always a first time. 🙂

    _______

    I certainly hope you’re correct! Go Pats!!

  25. “Ultraviolet Thunder says: February 3, 2018 at 8:51 pm MVP? He is a SYSTEM QB. Take him out of this offense and he’d be nothing.”

    Again today I ask you, troll, explain the system for me. Twice I asked you and once your alt and still you haven’t explained the system. Doesn’t every team have a system? Hmm?

  26. HE’S A SYSTEM QB!! LIKE MONTANA IN THE WEST COAST OFFENSE! I’M SPITTING ALL OVER MY KEYBOARD!

  27. Irish Hoodlum says:
    February 3, 2018 at 8:26 pm
    Good for him Carson Wentz tore his ACL otherwise might not have received it this year. For all you Patriot homers out there it’s the truth. Wentz was as good or better stat wise at the time of injury but then we could also maybe have added Watson. Uhhhh….the injuries this year.

    ===============

    You’re assuming that a different scenario for Philly would have only included positive results. Everyone can lose games, and that includes Wentz. Who knows how he would’ve fared down the stretch and in the playoffs? Brees, Ryan, Roethlisberger, Goff, Newton all lost, but Wentz couldn’t have?

    For all the knocks on Foles, he’s played in 3 playoff games and twice as many regular-season games as Wentz, and his career peaks in stats blow Wentz away. It may be that the team has fared better down the stretch than they would have with Wentz.

  28. billymutt
    Feb 3, 2018, 5:47 PM PST
    dsather23 says:
    February 3, 2018 at 8:33 pm
    And with that award, the Eagles win the Super Bowl.

    The MVP curse is real.

    So was the Madden curse, until Tom broke it this year. So, better pin your hopes on something else.

    ___

    I’m a Pats fan, but I’m a realist too.

  29. Without Brady the Patriots are not only not playing tomorrow but it’s doubtful their season extends into January at all.

    No brainer. MVP.

  30. The past eight AP NFL MVP winners who played in the Super Bowl the same year lost in the SB.
    2016 – M. Ryan
    2015 – C. Newton
    2013 – P. Manning
    2009 – P. Manning
    2007 – T. Brady
    2005 – S. Alexander
    2002 – R. Gannon
    2001 – K. Warner

    2017 – T. Brady is added to that list.

  31. dejc421 says:
    February 3, 2018 at 8:27 pm

    streetyson says:
    February 3, 2018 at 8:16 pm

    Congrats you old GOAT! So why isn’t he also offensive MVP? And the fact that Matt Ryan was given it last year shows the idiocy of always voting ahead of the postseason
    ____________________
    Postseason has nothing to do with the awards.

    ________________________________________________

    He gets that…read for comprehension.

  32. elmerbrownelmerbrown says:
    February 3, 2018 at 8:22 pm
    Not begrudging Tom but 2 votes for Carson Wentz is a disgrace
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    How so? He didn’t finish the season which immediately ought to DQ him from consideration…. and Foles got the Eagles here so how valuable was he really?

    Without Brady the Patriots are golfing. Period.

  33. Ultraviolet Thunder says:
    February 3, 2018 at 8:51 pm

    MVP? He is a SYSTEM QB.
    __________________________________________

    I get so confused with what the trolls are selling on which day. Clear this up for us please. Is the particular SYSTEM of which you speak today the Pats offensive SYSTEM, the Goodell SYSTEM, the buying the refs SYSTEM, the PED SYSTEM, the playing in a particular division SYSTEM or (funniest of them all) the scheduling SYSTEM? Is there a rotation you use for deciding which to go with or is it more like a blindfolded dart approach?

  34. Who was the starting QB in 1991 at $103, $72M guaranteed? Oh, yeah Drew Bledsoe. Bledsoe goes down the second game or so of 1991 and Belichek becomes a genius.Hmmmmmmmmm


  35. I’m a Pats fan, but I’m a realist too”

    A realist that believes in curses. Do you live in Salem?

  36. He’s the GOAT and deserves this award since Wentz missed the last three games. I think it’s more of an argument if Wentz was healthy. Now, I do disagree about Coach of the Year. Should have been Pederson.

  37. Does he keep all his trophies together or does he keep the lomBRADY trophies seperate?I bet he spends a small fortune on cleaning the trophies and rings.Probably has to hire a crew.

  38. Good job, Tom and the MVP voters.

    I’ve decided I love all the whiners, criers and trolls the most. If ever I’m feeling down I can just come here and read the comments on a Pats story and my day brightens immediately. TheBisonCometh is fast becoming my favorite so the rest of you trolls better look to your laurels.

  39. Was just wondering maybe Wentz didn’t get more than two votes because writers thought he was a “system QB”. They won without him and their coach “deserved” the Coach of the Year Award.

    If Tom Brady is JUST a system QB than Wentz is definitely a system QB.

    I don’t believe either of these arguments but the haters have to be consistent or just be labeled……. HATERS!

  40. The guy has been to 8 SBs in 17 years, has won 5 and has a shot at a 6th tomorrow.

    If you’re still desperately typing an argument that “he’s not that good”, I can only say I admire your persistence.

  41. sbhntr says:
    February 3, 2018 at 8:27 pm
    I have been fortunate t have seen Bobby Orr , Larry bird , and Tom Brady in my lifetime.
    ==========================================================

    I know the feeling.
    That is how I feel about seeing Bobby Hull, Michael Jordan and Walter Payton play in person.

  42. Patriot fans seem to feel pretty good tonight and rightfully so. Goodell on your side, refs on your side, but if the patriots lose it would be pathetic with all that help.

  43. zibet says:
    February 3, 2018 at 9:45 pm
    Joke. Antonio Brown was the MVP
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    Can’t be MVP of the league when you’re not even MVP on your own team.

    #LVB

  44. @dsather32, you and me both. But you have to admit, it would be so cool if Tom can add another “curse broken” to his list of achievements. I’m hopeful and quietly confident that he’ll do just that on Sunday.

    Go Patriots!

  45. Oh, yeah Drew Bledsoe. Bledsoe goes down the second game or so of 1991 and Belichek becomes a genius

    ——
    🤔

  46. commentawaitingdeletion says:
    February 3, 2018 at 9:22 pm
    Ultraviolet Thunder says:
    February 3, 2018 at 8:51 pm

    MVP? He is a SYSTEM QB.
    __________________________________________

    I get so confused with what the trolls are selling on which day. Clear this up for us please. Is the particular SYSTEM of which you speak today the Pats offensive SYSTEM, the Goodell SYSTEM, the buying the refs SYSTEM, the PED SYSTEM, the playing in a particular division SYSTEM or (funniest of them all) the scheduling SYSTEM? Is there a rotation you use for deciding which to go with or is it more like a blindfolded dart approach?
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=
    Well just look on the internet and you will see pictures of Goodell at Kraft’s house…..same year patriots won the super bowl. Patriot benefiting from calls obviously have been going on for years and patriot fans don’t understand their patriot privilege. And the “funniest” the scheduling. Since Goodell has become commissioner the Patriots have played the least amount of teams coming off bye weeks. Also when Patriots play the majority of previous years AFCs playoff opponents at home year in and year out it makes you wonder. The teams are set but when and where are not clown. So when the Patriots play a tough AFC opponent it usually comes after a long road trip (if they play away) or the opposing team is coming off a tough streak of games playing real competition chip. Hope this clears up a few things.

  47. It’s time for the NFL to split the MVP into 2 separate awards: MVP and MVQ (most valuable quarterback). It’s nearly impossible for any non-quarterback to win MVP unless he has an All-Time performance at his position. Last year, the MVP award should’ve been given to at least one member of the Cowboys’ offensive line. Alas, the voters went for the safe pick yet again, and gave it to a very good (but not great) Matt Ryan.

  48. Love this cherrypicked Manning v. Brady stat the trolls have devised re Manning 3-1 “playoff” advantage. By limiting it to AFCCG, you of course remove the Patriot’s 2005 divisional round dismantling of the Colts, 20-3.

  49. vaphinfan says:
    February 3, 2018 at 9:50 pm

    Patriot fans seem to feel pretty good tonight and rightfully so. Goodell on your side, refs on your side, but if the patriots lose it would be pathetic with all that help.
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    So the fan of a team that hasn’t won since 1973 thinks it would be “pathetic” if NE doesn’t win their 3rd in the last 4 years? OK, sure.

  50. Thought Brady’s speech was captured in a photo that ran on numerous websites? One problem, he didn’t make a speech. Edelman did and it was short. More phony stuff.

  51. 49ersfury says:
    February 3, 2018 at 10:13 pm

    Nothing against Brady he’s a great QB, but this is the weakest MVP award winner since a Kicker won it in 1982.
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    What does this mean? Should they have given it to Shawn Alexander again like in the good old days of MVP awards?

  52. Wentz had 32 TD’s healthy and 1 with a torn acl/mcl and 2 votes ? I fully expected Tawmy to get another mvp. What a chowdahead.

    *Major shade thrown at the vikings by Kevin Hart.
    Philly Dilly

  53. ihavepriors says:
    February 3, 2018 at 10:50 pm

    If he plays a few more years, he might tie Peyton. Peyton retired at 38.
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    It will be VERY tough to tie Peyton’s record 9 playoff one and dones. 9! Can you imagine that?

  54. elmerbrownelmerbrown says:
    February 3, 2018 at 8:22 pm

    Not begrudging Tom but 2 votes for Carson Wentz is a disgrace
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    I like Wentz, but getting injured when he did derailed any chance he was going to win MVP.

  55. traviolet Thunder says:
    February 3, 2018 at 8:51 pm
    MVP? He is a SYSTEM QB. Take him out of this offense and he’d be nothing

    ———

    Take you out of this thread and it would be better.

    You’re dragging it down man, pick up your game

  56. Tom Brady is best football player ever!

    Emmitt Smith is the best athlete to ever play football!

    It’s more likely we see another Brady before we see another Emmitt!

    It’s less than likely we ever see another Brady or Smith ever again!

  57. Surprise surprise, Goodell rigging it so Cheating Tom gets the joke that is the MVP award. The real MVP is The Deflator then if we’re cool with rewarding nonstop, systematic cheating.

  58. Apparently Wentz wasn’t that valuable, because after he got hurt the Eagles kept winning. If the Patriots had lost Brady in Week 13 they wouldn’t have gotten out of the Wild Card round.

    That just means the the Eagles are the better, deeper, more talented team – which will be proven tomorrow night.

  59. The SB won’t be watched live here. Outcome sealed. The refs did it in the AFCC game, they’ll do it again and retire. Rich. Oldest this. Oldest that. If it gets out of hand the 70 yr old refs will “fix it”. Again.

  60. I just want to point out that it is a travesty that Manning was gifted undeserving MVP awards several times (they even had McNair split it with Manning when McNair was clearly the deserving one that year), while Brees has 0 (what a joke) and Brady only has 3. Brees should have 2-3 easy, and Brady should have minimum 4, maybe 5+

  61. Brady is greatest qb of alltime. However no idea how he got mvp. If a qb had to get this award it goes to wentz. However hands down mvp should of went to Gurley. Go Eagles

  62. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    February 3, 2018 at 9:26 pm
    Well done. Simply the GOAT SYSTEM QB.

    —-

    Boring. Predictable. Go away.

  63. Ultraviolet Thunder.
    MVP!!! He is a system quarterback.

    Ma’am, previous GOAT Joe Montana has always been criticized for being a system QB in Bill Walsh’s west coast offense . . . that he would not be nearly as good anywhere else. Marino was in Shula’s offensive system that worked. The great Bart Starr was in Vince Lombardi’s system.

    Big deal. Regardless of the system it takes a great QB to be this successful in any system. Every coach has their own offensive system. Get over all this system advantage garbage. It is illogical Captain.

  64. You people are pathetic. You know who you are. I get it, losing sucks. But if you were objective, and not subjective, you’d be in awe of the Pats dynasty.
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    I am not in awe of a franchise that cheats to win.

  65. manderixx says:
    February 3, 2018 at 9:33 pm
    Who was the starting QB in 1991 at $103, $72M guaranteed? Oh, yeah Drew Bledsoe. Bledsoe goes down the second game or so of 1991 and Belichek becomes a genius.Hmmmmmmmmm

    _______________________________________________________________________________

    Bledsoe was drafted in 1993.

  66. You’d think the Patriots winning so much would guarantee Pats fans not be so insecure but I guess not.

  67. “Who was the starting QB in 1991 at $103, $72M guaranteed? Oh, yeah Drew Bledsoe. Bledsoe goes down the second game or so of 1991 and Belichek becomes a genius.Hmmmmmmmmm”

    It helps to at least get basic facts correct if you want people to take you seriously. First of all you’re a decade off. Second of all BB was a genius long before that when he was running the Giants defense. Ask LT.

  68. Wrong choice. He wasn’t even the best QB in the league (Wentz was, and even Keenum ranked higher in QBR) much less the most valuable to the league and his team in 2017. I’d give that to Gurley after a 11-5 turnaound from 4-12. I am sick and tired of the NFL and their perspective on why things work and who does the working. It’s like PFT – they think there is only 1 team in the league.

    And to amadorcountryca – people who don’t like the Patriots aren’t pathetic, you are. Objective fans would look at the whole picture and realize that while yes they have a dynasty, it is suspect for a whole lot of reasons (and I’m not even talking about cheating) and doesn’t compare to some of the true dynasties throughout the history of the NFL. THAT is objective.

  69. “Brady garnered 40 votes to eight for Todd Gurley and two for Carson Wentz. The vote likely would have been closer if Wentz hadn’t injured his knee in Week 14.”
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    And TB would have won it last year if he hadn’t been railroaded by the league into a 4 game suspension.

  70. amadorcountyca says:
    February 3, 2018 at 10:59 pm
    You people are pathetic. You know who you are. I get it, losing sucks. But if you were objective, and not subjective, you’d be in awe of the Pats dynasty.

    “””””

    Fact is Pats we’re guilty in 2 major cheating incidents that affected the integrity of the game. I admire dynasties, but the Pats dynasty is tainted.

  71. Ultraviolet Thunder says:
    February 3, 2018 at 8:51 pm
    MVP? He is a SYSTEM QB. Take him out of this offense and he’d be nothing.

    =============

    Big Ben has a lot more talent around him than Brady, what is he then? Brady didn’t even have his best WR this year

    And this argument defeats itself as Belichick always gets rid of talent when it gets too expensive, except for 1 player. If Brady was a “ system” QB, he would have been traded for picks and cap space looooooooooong ago. Not disputable.

  72. patriotmaleorgy says:
    February 3, 2018 at 10:00 pm
    commentawaitingdeletion says:
    February 3, 2018 at 9:22 pm
    Ultraviolet Thunder says:
    February 3, 2018 at 8:51 pm

    MVP? He is a SYSTEM QB.
    __________________________________________

    I get so confused with what the trolls are selling on which day. Clear this up for us please. Is the particular SYSTEM of which you speak today the Pats offensive SYSTEM, the Goodell SYSTEM, the buying the refs SYSTEM, the PED SYSTEM, the playing in a particular division SYSTEM or (funniest of them all) the scheduling SYSTEM? Is there a rotation you use for deciding which to go with or is it more like a blindfolded dart approach?
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=
    Well just look on the internet and you will see pictures of Goodell at Kraft’s house…..same year patriots won the super bowl. Patriot benefiting from calls obviously have been going on for years and patriot fans don’t understand their patriot privilege. And the “funniest” the scheduling. Since Goodell has become commissioner the Patriots have played the least amount of teams coming off bye weeks. Also when Patriots play the majority of previous years AFCs playoff opponents at home year in and year out it makes you wonder. The teams are set but when and where are not clown. So when the Patriots play a tough AFC opponent it usually comes after a long road trip (if they play away) or the opposing team is coming off a tough streak of games playing real competition chip. Hope this clears up a few things.

    ====//=============

    Bad calls like the Dion Lewis “fumble” when he was down by contact? Or maybe the 5 holding penalties on the Tyree catch play? Or maybe suspending a QB for misunderstanding physics? Bad calls go both ways, it’s a loser argument. And your schedule argument is bizarre, you gotta back it with real numbers.

  73. “Enjoy the ride pats “fans.” When it’s all over, you’ll move on… it’s as predictable as the sunrise.”

    They’ve sold out every game in Foxboro since 1994. What’s as predictable as a sunrise is you posting and losing your mind in every single pats article on this website. For years.

  74. “Bad calls like the Dion Lewis “fumble” when he was down by contact? Or maybe the 5 holding penalties on the Tyree catch play? Or maybe suspending a QB for misunderstanding physics? Bad calls go both ways, it’s a loser argument. And your schedule argument is bizarre, you gotta back it with real numbers.”

    Of course its bizarre, because it is complete nonsense.

  75. Brady is the only legit QB the AFC Least has had since Peyton Manning was in that division. Unless you call Mark Sanchez legit. Nuff said. Not their fault but it is what it is and Pats fans need to quit trying to convince us they don’t play in the weakest division perhaps in all of sports.

    The Pats run of excellence will end immediately once one of the other teams in the Least find a QB.

  76. Braz says:
    February 4, 2018 at 8:23 am
    You’d think the Patriots winning so much would guarantee Pats fans not be so insecure but I guess not.

    ————————
    Its not the Patriots fans who are dwelling on another teams feed having a fit because that teams qb just got the MVP. I think what we have is a case of ‘if you cant deny greatness attack the fans instead’

  77. Pats fans- nobody really believes Brady is a system QB. They’re saying it to get a rise out of you. Keep responding and they’ll keep doing it. Knock it off and stop being so freaking sensitive.

    As for Brady…he is great for sure but GOAT? I won’t go there. I need to see him away from Belichick for starters. And the game has changed so much that it’s impossible to objectively compare across eras.

  78. Eagles defense will use this for even more motivation hahahaha. Eagles 28 patriots 3. Eagles obliterate Tammy and his crying to the refs won’t matter this time

  79. I dont recall Montana ever throwing a pick 6 in the Super bowl like Brady or Manning let alone EVER throwing a pick in a Super Bowl.

    Great year for Brady….but Joe is the GOAT

  80. Only on a Patriots fan would actually believe they have never cheated lmao. It’s hilarious to listen to people think they were innocent all those times and everyone is against them lol. Just own it.

  81. Yeah, Brady threw a pick 6 in the Super Bowl. Then proceeded to throw for 250 yards, 2 TDs, and 31 unanswered points in the second half in the greatest comeback in SB history. Us Pats fans are still real broken up over that pick 6.

  82. AtheistsareIdiots says:
    February 4, 2018 at 10:30 am
    I dont recall Montana ever throwing a pick 6 in the Super bowl like Brady or Manning let alone EVER throwing a pick in a Super Bowl.

    Great year for Brady….but Joe is the GOAT

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    Funny I don’t recall Montana ever even playing in even a 5th SB? Why not….Joe wasn’t even good enough to make it to more than 4? Brady is about to play in his 8th….but I guess in tortured hater logic it is better to not even make it to the game than to make it and lose….

  83. Congrats to Brady. Certainly one of the greatest ever, he can make his case for GOAT as an Rodgers who makes gthrows every week that I’ve never seen anyone else make.

  84. “I’m thinking he might win a couple more, Hell, if you so much as touch him you get flagged.”

    What’s it like living in Never Neverland?

  85. Hey Patriots haters….you getting ready for the superbowl party you are attending to watch THE PATRIOTS play again..if not I beg of you to at least get out of the house and spread the “WHINE FLU”.It brings me joy to hear the crys of the weak.

  86. Actually cherry coke if you google “what QB gets the most roughing the passer penalties “the answer will surprise you..please do not get a “WHINE FLU” shot.I’m impressed that you can put letters together to form words…now you need to work on substance as do all Patriots Haters.I know I can’t help all the haters but if I can he….nevermind…I enjoy your whining.

  87. Braz says:
    February 4, 2018 at 9:55 am
    Pats fans- nobody really believes Brady is a system QB. They’re saying it to get a rise out of you. Keep responding and they’ll keep doing it. Knock it off and stop being so freaking sensitive.
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    If you were on Pats threads more you’d realize some of us occasionally mock the ‘system’ trolls for our own amusement. It also has the benefit of smoking out the multiple id trolls. For instance ultravioletchip responded with the exact same false arguments she’s used before. That’s a useful thing to know since it tells us which sock puppets we don’t need to bother engaging going forward. It’s one thing to engage another football fan and another to waste time on a fool. For instance anyone making the weak division argument for New England’s success has to be a fool not to realize geographically the Pats are in the Northeast and belong in either a Northern or Eastern division. Brady’s win percentage against North or East divisions: : AFCE .792, NFCE .813, AFCN .833, NFCN .875. So how is it that the AFCE is the worst division in sports when they beat him with more regularity than any other division the Pats might find themselves in? Which of those ‘better’ divisions would you rather the Pats be in? BTW those AFCN numbers are despite only playing the top team in that division 2 of every 3 years. I am sure now that you have real numbers you will reconsider your position as any sensible non troll would when presented with actual facts.

  88. finzd54 says:
    February 3, 2018 at 8:40

    But just another instance of the NFL on its knees for Brady. Enjoy it because in maybe two more years, they’ll be back in the basement and the we’ll see how many real Patriots fans there are at that point. Fake fans especially when back in the days of metal bleachers in Foxboro, you couldn’t give tickets away and opposing teams fans would outnumber the Patriots fans. I witnessed it time and time again

    ++++

    You have just described what a bitter Dolphins fan must feel like for the last 30 years, sitting in the hellish Orange Bowl and Joe Robbie waiting for Larry Czonka to walk through the door

  89. “Actually cherry coke if you google “what QB gets the most roughing the passer penalties “the answer will surprise you..please do not get a “WHINE FLU” shot.I’m impressed that you can put letters together to form words…now you need to work on substance as do all Patriots Haters.I know I can’t help all the haters but if I can he….nevermind…I enjoy your whining”

    Not sure what your deal is, chief. I’m a Pats fan. I just find your “he gets a call if he gets touched” take pretty silly. I did your google search and Fitzpatrick has the most calls since 2009 with 33. Brady is 8th with 24, behind Brees, Rodgers, Cam, Ryan, Palmer, and Cutler. Hope that helps.

  90. These people on Rodgers’ jock calling him the best are so delusional. He isn’t even as good as Brees, forget about championship Tom

  91. Theevidencesaysotherwise says:
    February 4, 2018 at 8:52 am
    Fact is Pats we’re guilty in 2 major cheating incidents that affected the integrity of the game. I admire dynasties, but the Pats dynasty is tainted.
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    Goodell and a few owners created those “cheating scandals.” Your reference to affecting the integrity of the game is laughable because it IS Goodell that’s ruined the “integrity of the game.” (Just read the hearing transcript that Judge Berman ordered unsealed and you’ll see who the real cheaters and liars are!)

  92. Braz says:
    February 4, 2018 at 9:37 am
    Brady is the only legit QB the AFC Least has had since Peyton Manning was in that division. Unless you call Mark Sanchez legit. Nuff said. Not their fault but it is what it is and Pats fans need to quit trying to convince us they don’t play in the weakest division perhaps in all of sports.
    The Pats run of excellence will end immediately once one of the other teams in the Least find a QB.
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    Another troll, another loser comment.

    2017 AFC Division winning percentage:

    AFCE:516
    AFCN:453.5
    AFCS:422
    AFCW:469

    So much for your argument! And yes, the NFC was the stronger conference in games won.

  93. ihavepriors says:
    February 4, 2018 at 12:31 pm

    Tommy wont retire until he breaks Peyton’s 5 MVP’s. Peyton retired at age 38. He didn’t need age 45.
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    Manning retired at 39.

    Brady at 40 has still played in 13 fewer regular season games than Manning because Manning started as a rookie.

  94. thinkaboutit388 says:
    February 4, 2018 at 11:34 am
    I’m thinking he might win a couple more, Hell, if you so much as touch him you get flagged.

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    So I guess Von Miller redefined the meaning of ‘touching’.

  95. Braz says:
    February 4, 2018 at 9:37 am
    Brady is the only legit QB the AFC Least has had since Peyton Manning was in that division.

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    Which AFC East team was Peyton on? Just curious.

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