Brady is first QB to lose a game with 500 yards, 3 TDs, 0 interceptions

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Patriots quarterback Tom Brady put up one of the great passing performances in NFL history at Super Bowl LII — and maybe the greatest ever for a quarterback whose team lost.

Brady completed 28 of 48 passes for 505 yards, with three touchdowns and no interceptions. Sunday’s game was just the sixth in NFL history — regular season or postseason — in which a quarterback threw for 500 yards with three touchdowns and no picks. And it was the first time a quarterback has done that while losing the game.

Quarterbacks are too often judged by whether their team wins or loses, rather than how they perform individually. Brady was the MVP of the first Super Bowl he played in, 16 years ago, but looking back at his numbers in that game they look shockingly bad: He threw for just 145 yards in that game, with one touchdown on 16-of-27 passing.

And at Super Bowl LII, Brady was phenomenal. Unfortunately, so was the Eagles’ offense, and the Patriots came up short.

207 responses to “Brady is first QB to lose a game with 500 yards, 3 TDs, 0 interceptions

  1. On the fumble he tried to put his arm in a forward motion for the SB version of the tuck rule. Didn’t work this time cheater. Shouldn’t have worked against the Raiders. Both were fumbles.

  2. Patriots D lost the game. 4th and 1 in the 4th quarter and they failed to make a stop (AGAIN). That was the game.
    And the missed kicks first half, WTF?
    Ugly game for the Pats. But they will be back.

  3. Worst part is I really think Vikings win that game against the Pats. Patriots defense was non-existent and I think, in our home stadium, Vikes defense takes it to Tom Brady. He may have thrown for a lot of yards, but he looked every bit of 40 years old.

  4. Good thing the rules for a catch changed again just in time for Clement and Ertz to be SB heroes.
    What a travesty having to play the Eagles and 345 Park Avenue simultaneously.

  5. Tommy Boy is also 1-3 when he plays a team from a real division NFC EAST in the Super Bowl

  6. Thats because Brady was a good but not great QB in his 1st 3 SB wins. He was Phil Simms. Efficient and didnt make turnovers. But they gives it to QBs the most because its easy to do instead of thinking.

  7. Wins and losses are always a team stat but the GOAT did his thing 🙂 Can’t compare that with 2001. Completely different era of the game before the Polian rule changes.

    The Patriots do have a ton of work to do on the roster. Let’s face it…guys like Bademosi and Richards have no business being in any NFL roster never mind playing Super Bowl snaps from the opening whistle.

    Sometimes…. maybe most of the time…. talent does matter. 🙂 Get to work fellas!

  8. He played great, but the rest of his team did not and the hoodie was out coached by a 2nd year coach.

  9. Tom Brady is like Michael Jordan. He plays on a whole ‘nother level than the rest of the NFL. As incredibly good as Philly played last night it still almost wasn’t enough to beat TB12. And he’s 40 years old…amazing.

  10. would also have been the 1st qb to lose 5 super bowls in a row eclipsing buffalos 4 if it wasn’t for bad coaching by pete carroll and dan Quinn who gifted the patriots those 2 super bowl wins.

  11. Peyton Manning was shockingly bad in the superbowls his team won but there was no way he was not going to be the MVP. Papa Johns wouldn’t allow it.

    Peyton manning when the Broncos won the Superbowl : 13–of–23 for 141 yards with no touchdowns and one interception. He was horrible all season, which is why Osweiller took them to the playoffs. Team defense was the real MVP but if you criticize the forehead, people come out of the woodwork gunning for you.

  12. Oh, and all gaudy passing numbers dont mean that much. Its a reflection on the crappy rules changes and effort to turn the sport into flag football as much as it is about the modern QBs skill set. Take any good QB from the 60s-70s and they could do the same. The modern QB doesnt have to take the hits and wont have his WR mugged down the field like it used to be before the Mel Blount rule.

    That’s why its such a joke to annoint a modern QB as GOAT without considering how they react to repeated hits when a defender used to be able to hit a QB after the pass was released if they were within a couple steps. Any QB who gets rattled easily from hits wouldnt flourish in the old game.

  13. What a great game. Another MVP performance by Brady……looking forward to next season and the seasons to come.

    That super bowl was a reminder of why we cheer for our teams.

  14. Just a damn disgrace. Never seen such defensive ineptitude. But I guess that’s the Pats’ system of player procurement. You don’t tie your whole salary cap up on two or three superstars, you get it done with a bunch of C+ players who operate as a functional unit. Unfortunately, that can come back to bite you against the best competition in the playoffs. Hightower went down, and they haven’t had an answer at LB since. Elandon Roberts and Jordan Richards should have four year NFL careers running under kickoffs, and these guys are in your Super Bowl starting lineup. The Eagles don’t even have much offensive talent on paper, and they still shredded them. Just glad Wentz wasn’t playing, he’d have thrown for 500 like Brady, and they probably hang 50+ on them. 2017 Pats were just not built to win a championship after losing guys like Edelman and Hightower. Honestly, Pittsburgh probably wins in the AFCCG, but they forgot to show up for the Jags game. Here’s hoping for a better 2018 season.

  15. ragevirus11 says:
    February 5, 2018 at 8:57 am
    28 of 48 is not good. Plus he lost the game for them with that fumble. Probably the finest moment of the entire game was that play.

    If you watched that game and that’s your take away you should stop watching football or grow up

    28-58 510 yards 3 tds 0 ints and a qb rating of 115 against that D

    Like I said some of you crybabies just try too hard

  16. With so many patriots stories, just wanted to say, Congratulations to the Eagles and their fans. You definitely earned it.

    – Lions Fan

  17. Congrats again to the Eagles. I spent all season complaining about whatever it is we called our secondary so I can’t say I’m that surprised. I will forever be amazed at their ability to be ten yards away from whoever they were “covering.” It was like watching magnets repel each other.

  18. johnnyhambone says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:04 am
    would also have been the 1st qb to lose 5 super bowls in a row eclipsing buffalos 4 if it wasn’t for bad coaching by pete carroll and dan Quinn who gifted the patriots those 2 super bowl wins.

    So STUPID

    yeah guy, Atlanta “gifted” them 31 second half points.

    But if you want to play that STUP game then they would have been 19-0 IF not for a helmet catch

  19. Here it comes, we’ll be hearing stuff like this all off season. The media is still in shock their hero actually lost and they were wrong about who would win.

    Get ready for all the “what if” and “but if” stories.

  20. There are 45 men on a football roster. To say that one man lost the game is absurd. If everyone on Pats roster played as well as Brady the outcome would have been different. Lets face it Defense lost that game. They simply could not get off the field. Strip sacks happen. Not much he could do about that. Brady is a stud and if you don’t see that you are simply delusional or a hater.

  21. excusemewhileiwhipthisoutagain says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:01 am
    Thats because Brady was a good but not great QB in his 1st 3 SB wins. He was Phil Simms. Efficient and didnt make turnovers. But they gives it to QBs the most because its easy to do instead of thinking.

    Yeah that’s a little revisionist history
    If you want to say that about the first SB okay
    But in the second one vs Carolina he passed for over 350 yards and set a record at the time for most attempts that’s not “Phil Sims” efficient

  22. It looks like the Pats treated Malcolm Butler wrong. I don’t know exactly what was going on, but that was such a bad look that I don’t know how that’s not going to have an effect on the Pat’s locker room next year.

  23. pantherfan4life says:
    February 5, 2018 at 8:59 am
    So sorry Pats fans but this is the beginning of the end

    Yeah because we don’t hear this EVERY time the Patriots lose a game

  24. pantherfan4life says:
    February 5, 2018 at 8:59 am
    So sorry Pats fans but this is the beginning of the end
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    ???? What part of league MVP and 505 yards against a top ranked defense leads you to believe that particular statement?

  25. Brady played great…except for whiffing on an easy catch and fumbling at the worst (some say “best”) possible moment.

  26. TB12’s is great but he can’t play forever and letting Jimmy G go was a bad move. Even last night I was asking who comes in if Tom goes down?

  27. Brady with another record, his wife will be so proud. Everything has been about the Patriot’s, yet a team from know where was a head till end of game and then won the game. The talk should be about the Eagle players not Brady and his records.

  28. You’re not a GOAT if you lose three Superbowls and win only during those years when your team is accused of cheating.

  29. 38lightpole says:
    February 5, 2018 at 8:58 am
    Worst part is I really think Vikings win that game against the Pats. Patriots defense was non-existent and I think, in our home stadium, Vikes defense takes it to Tom Brady. He may have thrown for a lot of yards, but he looked every bit of 40 years old.

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    You’re delusional. The Pats hung 33 points on that defense. The Vikes could only manage 3. In what altered reality do you think that they would somehow have the upper hand in that matchup?

    As for Brady, If showing his age means playing lights-out in the 2nd half, we’ll take it. The fumble was timely, costly, and unfortunate, but that’s how the game goes sometimes. Credit the Eagles with the win. Although the Pats D didn’t make them work for it, Brady and the offense certainly did.

  30. cmonitsfunny says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:00 am
    He also can’t beat an NFC east team when he needs to.
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    Except for the last time he faced the Eagles in the SB! (he also beat Coughlin & Eli’s Giants in his last 2 reg-season games btw).

  31. All I have ever heard from the Pats’ fans, is how humble & gracious Brady is! I beg to disagree, as he acted like a 40 year old, who lost his binky…smh…Unless, I missed something, running off the field without greeting the opposing q/b, is not the act of a “humble” person. It is the sign of a very poor loser, with zero sportsmanship!!
    Many congrats to the Eagles, from a division rival. You deserved it 🙂

  32. Tom Brady is a winner. But in a team game all parts of the team must perform to earn a championship. Without Brady the Patriots get blown out.

  33. Flash1287 says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:13 am
    ragevirus11 says:
    February 5, 2018 at 8:57 am
    28 of 48 is not good. Plus he lost the game for them with that fumble. Probably the finest moment of the entire game was that play.

    If you watched that game and that’s your take away you should stop watching football or grow up

    28-58 510 yards 3 tds 0 ints and a qb rating of 115 against that D

    Like I said some of you crybabies just try too hard
    ++++++++++++++++++++
    Classic example of the old saying “stats are for losers”

  34. The Eagles deserved to win.

    Credit to Foles, credit to the coaches, the Patriots defense was outmatched, outcoached and outplayed.

    Foles is dynamite in that system – who is to say Wentz would have won that game. Might be tempted to trade Went for some high draft picks and stay with Foles?

  35. Wins and losses are by teams not individuals unless you’re Scott Norwood, lol.. Brady didn’t lose this, their pathetic defense did,…
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    Don’t forget special teams. How about pinning the Eagles deep on kickoffs, how about not screwing up the snap on the field goal. Or how about Belichick kick the field goal instead of going for it on 4th down. Or how about not wasting a time out earlier in the second half. Credit to the Eagles. They played well and deserved the win.

  36. I love that they lost on a goal line play at the end of the game. I think I may have actually cried a little. It was a thing of beauty! Thank you Philly for a great ending to the football season!

  37. vikesfansteve says:
    February 5, 2018 at 8:55 am

    On the fumble he tried to put his arm in a forward motion for the SB version of the tuck rule. Didn’t work this time cheater. Shouldn’t have worked against the Raiders. Both were fumbles.
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    This has to be one of the worst trolls of all time

  38. infectorman says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:00 am
    Good thing the rules for a catch changed again just in time for Clement and Ertz to be SB heroes.
    What a travesty having to play the Eagles and 345 Park Avenue simultaneously

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    First off, Brady lost a fumble at the worst possible time. Second, every football fan (outside of Pats fanboys) on the planet know the ‘must secure to ground’ catch is baloney & Ertz had the ball for 2 full steps. This rule will undoubtedly be sh&%T-canned before next season.

  39. TheTruth says:
    February 5, 2018 at 8:57 am

    Patriots D lost the game. 4th and 1 in the 4th quarter and they failed to make a stop (AGAIN).
    ………..
    Did you not read the article when Doug Pederson explains why he goes for it on 4th down? I did.

  40. excusemewhileiwhipthisoutagain says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:06 am
    Oh, and all gaudy passing numbers dont mean that much. Its a reflection on the crappy rules changes and effort to turn the sport into flag football as much as it is about the modern QBs skill set. Take any good QB from the 60s-70s and they could do the same. The modern QB doesnt have to take the hits and wont have his WR mugged down the field like it used to be before the Mel Blount rule.

    That’s why its such a joke to annoint a modern QB as GOAT without considering how they react to repeated hits when a defender used to be able to hit a QB after the pass was released if they were within a couple steps. Any QB who gets rattled easily from hits wouldnt flourish in the old game.

    ======================

    That’s why Bert Jones would have been the best QB ever, had he played for the Hoodie or Walsh.

    Mel Blount was unbelievable. He’s be a free Safety in today’s game.

  41. I told my wife the Patriots are not a great team they just have a great QB to bail them out. They went to the well one to many times, and came up short because Nick Foles, a rather average QB, had the game of his life. Pats probably have a half dozen more SB runs in them so I wouldent worry too much Pats fans.

  42. infectorman says:

    February 5, 2018 at 9:00 am

    Good thing the rules for a catch changed again just in time for Clement and Ertz to be SB heroes.
    What a travesty having to play the Eagles and 345 Park Avenue simultaneously.

    _______________________________________

    Congrats now you know how how the rest of the team’s that have been screwed by the refs in the Pats favor. Sucks doesn’t it.

  43. I don’t want to hear 1 more time what a genius Belichick is, especially defensively. Brady probably just had the greatest game ever in a Super Bowl, and they got shredded by Nick Foles and all 3 of their running backs. Brady has carried other awful Patriot defenses in the past. Just a pathetic effort, this screams of ego by the coach who is .500 without Brady

  44. shadywarrior says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:08 am
    Just a damn disgrace. Never seen such defensive ineptitude. But I guess that’s the Pats’ system of player procurement. You don’t tie your whole salary cap up on two or three superstars, you get it done with a bunch of C+ players who operate as a functional unit. Unfortunately, that can come back to bite you against the best competition in the playoffs. Hightower went down, and they haven’t had an answer at LB since. Elandon Roberts and Jordan Richards should have four year NFL careers running under kickoffs, and these guys are in your Super Bowl starting lineup. The Eagles don’t even have much offensive talent on paper, and they still shredded them. Just glad Wentz wasn’t playing, he’d have thrown for 500 like Brady, and they probably hang 50+ on them. 2017 Pats were just not built to win a championship after losing guys like Edelman and Hightower. Honestly, Pittsburgh probably wins in the AFCCG, but they forgot to show up for the Jags game. Here’s hoping for a better 2018 season.

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    But the knock on the Patriots were that they were such cheapskates how they would not give too much to one player. Their detractors are constantly calling them stupid for letting players go rather than paying them. I just read a thing on how they were stupid for not breakng the bank to keep both Jones and Collins. So now I read the opposite?

    And I think Philly does too have a lot of talent. Just for starters I would argue that was the best defense in football this year (sorry Vikings and Jaguars) I even expect them to be right back in the hunt next year. (Sorry Ciwboys and Giant and Redskins fans)

  45. Classic example of the old saying “stats are for losers”

    Point was (obvious jealous of Patriots based on your stupid user name)
    If you watched that game and your take away was they lost because of Brady you are a fool

  46. protozoa5 says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:44 am
    infectorman says:

    February 5, 2018 at 9:00 am

    Good thing the rules for a catch changed again just in time for Clement and Ertz to be SB heroes.
    What a travesty having to play the Eagles and 345 Park Avenue simultaneously.

    _______________________________________

    Congrats now you know how how the rest of the team’s that have been screwed by the refs in the Pats favor. Sucks doesn’t it.

    ———————
    Not really, those were good calls. As were the ones before. Just because things dont go your way does not mean anyone cheated. Write that down.

  47. 38lightpole says:
    February 5, 2018 at 8:58 am
    Worst part is I really think Vikings win that game against the Pats. Patriots defense was non-existent and I think, in our home stadium, Vikes defense takes it to Tom Brady. He may have thrown for a lot of yards, but he looked every bit of 40 years old.
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    STOP.If, If, if…. sounding like a Bears fan now.Just chalk it up to another Championship that you will never have. ….. Vikings would have beat the Pats. lol

  48. I’m thinking BB hurt the whole team not playing Butler. Could have used him yesterday. Bad move in my opinion. He’s better in coverage than the guys they used in his place.

    Cooks getting whalloped didn’t help either, could not replace his speed although Hogan played pretty well. They lost their speed.

    Both catches looked like TDS to me.

    Offense put up 600 yards and 33 points, should have been 37 but they missed kicks. Kind of hard to put the loss on the offense, but they weren’t perfect. Win together lose together

  49. What a waste to have it come down to the strip/sack, although the defense was so bad, the Pats were bound to lose anyway. Just shows that no matter how good your QB plays, you need all 3 phases to step up. They didn’t. Philly deserved to win, but Foles’ grandmother could have made all the plays since the Pats never had a pass rush all game long.

  50. Brady still has 2 to 3 years left in him. It was evidenced by last night but that pass rush is horrible Pats won’t make another Super Bowl unless they fix that.

  51. 38lightpole says:
    February 5, 2018 at 8:58 am
    Worst part is I really think Vikings win that game against the Pats. Patriots defense was non-existent and I think, in our home stadium, Vikes defense takes it to Tom Brady. He may have thrown for a lot of yards, but he looked every bit of 40 years old.

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    Shoulda…..woulda…..had we not lost we would have been winning…..

    I swear Minneapolis and Pittsburgh should be sister cities.

  52. Flash1287 says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:49 am
    Classic example of the old saying “stats are for losers”

    Point was (obvious jealous of Patriots based on your stupid user name)
    If you watched that game and your take away was they lost because of Brady you are a fool

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    Heck, if someone even just read this article and their takaway was they lost because of Brady thenthey are a fool.

  53. Brady was very good last night. His Oline played great, keeping him clean for a very high percentage of his 48 attempts. BB made an absolutely boneheaded call sending a 40 yo QB downfield for a pass. Not withstanding his poor QB hands, that could have been a disaster. Brady had all day to pass and the one time they got to him and he couldn’t turtle like he does, he coughed it up. That’s the game.

  54. Tom Brady doesn’t owe anyone any apologies and everyone who watches him play should appreciate him now while you can. There may only be a couple more years at this level.

  55. Beginning of the end???? Who Cares
    As A worn out old Patriots fan, this team owes me nothing more.
    No one will ever come close to matching this 20 year run.
    1n 1985 we lost our minds winning our first ever playoff game.
    No we barley have the energy to cheer when they reach the super bowl time and again.
    All good things have to come to an end. If that time is now, the only thing to say is thanks. but…. I have a strange feeling that the team has one more trick up there sleeve

  56. steelcurtainn says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:58 am
    Patriot tears taste so sweet.

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    If someone actually thinks losing in the Superbowl is a season to cry about imagine if they were a Steelers fan how they would feel.

  57. “patsfan1820 says:

    February 5, 2018 at 9:55 am

    Brady still has 2 to 3 years left in him. It was evidenced by last night but that pass rush is horrible Pats won’t make another Super Bowl unless they fix that.”

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    It’s too bad Belicheck didn’t have players like Jamie Collins and Chandler Jones to help his defense. Giving away assets because you are inflexible doesn’t always work. Instead they had to rely on a 39yo malcontent from another team to generate some pressure…

  58. When an offense scores over 30 points, it’s usually not the QB’s fault because he put up the points. It’s the defense’s job to make stops. The entire game had only ONE punt! They say defense wins championship but, for the Patriots, it’s the usually the defense that lost championships for them.

    The Eagles played a great game. Their defense was not that great against Brady either. But their offense was so aggressive and creative. They deserve the win.

  59. steelcurtainn says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:58 am
    Patriot tears taste so sweet.

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    I don’t see any Patriot fans crying or making any excuses. The Eagles played tough and won the game. Crying and making excuses is for losers…..like Mike Tomlin and Steelers’ fans

  60. Just proves he is the greatest QB of all time.

    Belichick’s arrogance lost that game. Like he did with Welker years back, he was punishing the whole team by not playing Butler. Nothing more than arrogance.

  61. Brady put up these numbers despite taking a beating. Eagles defenders were in his chest all day, just a second too late most of the time. Hard to pin the loss or credit the win to any one piece of the game. These two teams left it all on the field.

  62. Not an Eagles fan, not a Pats fan.

    It was a good game. Brady played lights out. So did Foles. Neither defense played particularly well but the Eagles came up with the key turnover when it mattered most.

    What I notice the most is that there are a LOT of immature fans on this site, going both ways. The game could have gone either way and went down to the last play of the quarter.

    Great game.

  63. johnnyhambone says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:04 am
    would also have been the 1st qb to lose 5 super bowls in a row eclipsing buffalos 4 if it wasn’t for bad coaching by pete carroll and dan Quinn who gifted the patriots those 2 super bowl wins.
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    If this and if that, the Bills remain alone with their 4 Super Bowl losses in a row.

    Just lose baby,.

  64. ducks4remi says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:57 am
    Crazy that the Vikings could only put up 7 on the eagles defense.
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    Not crazy…..just case Keenum. He can’t cut it.

    Brady played great. Belichick…..did he try to lose? Benching #1 CB?? Stay in D alignment that didn’t work all night? JHarrison….did he do anything?? Why did he get so many reps? I wouldn’t be surprised if their is some ugly divorce this week with BB and the org.

  65. It’s so ridiculous to say Brady lost this game. Just as it’s ridiculous to say he won other Super Bowls. It takes a team to win or lose any game. No matter how well Brady played (and he played great, as usual), his team lost because his defense could not stop Philly.
    I keep hearing people say Dan Marino never won a Super Bowl. That is also so ridiculous. He played well enough to have been in a dozen Super Bowls. But his team wasn’t good enough.
    I heard people ripping John Elway when he was a young QB because he had gotten to three Super Bowls and his Broncos lost all three. Terry Bradshaw even ripped him and it was big news because it angered Elway. But the fact was, none of those three teams that got there were very good. Without him, there’s no way they’d have even made the playoffs. He was the difference between a Super Bowl team and an also-ran.
    Only when he had the talent around him did he win two Super Bowls. And those teams were so good, he did not even have to play well for them to win.
    The Eagles won this game because they had the better team and they out-played and out-coached the Pats. But Tom Brady showed everyone he is still the best QB in the NFL. The guy is amazing.

  66. GOAT cannot be applied to someone who’s lost 3 SBs. If not for the bumblings of SEA and ATL, Brady’s played well enough in SBs to be 3-5.

  67. nhpats says:
    February 5, 2018 at 10:11 am
    steelcurtainn says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:58 am
    Patriot tears taste so sweet.

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    I don’t see any Patriot fans crying or making any excuses. The Eagles played tough and won the game. Crying and making excuses is for losers…..like Mike Tomlin and Steelers’ fans

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    Patriots fans have been crying about Gooddell for like 4 years now.

  68. Wellman says:
    February 5, 2018 at 10:05 am
    steelcurtainn says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:58 am
    Patriot tears taste so sweet.

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    If someone actually thinks losing in the Superbowl is a season to cry about imagine if they were a Steelers fan how they would feel.

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    If winning is all that matters then Steelers fans probably feel pretty good about their 6 Super Bowls.

  69. Flash1287 says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:18 am
    excusemewhileiwhipthisoutagain says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:01 am
    Thats because Brady was a good but not great QB in his 1st 3 SB wins. He was Phil Simms. Efficient and didnt make turnovers. But they gives it to QBs the most because its easy to do instead of thinking.

    Yeah that’s a little revisionist history
    If you want to say that about the first SB okay
    But in the second one vs Carolina he passed for over 350 yards and set a record at the time for most attempts that’s not “Phil Sims” efficient
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    Phil Simms set a SB record for completion percentage in his win, that still stands today. You’re right, Brady has NEVER been “Phil Sims” efficient 😉

  70. tvguy22 says:

    February 5, 2018 at 10:09 am

    Most losses in Super Bowl history. Congrats!

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    Maybe so, but how many teams have even made it there this many times? It’s no easy feat.

  71. Not a Pats fan, but bottom line: Brady did not lose this game, their horrible defense did. (Think the Lions are having a little buyer’s remorse on Patricia?).
    Patriots have had a great run, but they really were just one play away from losing both the Seattle and Atlanta Super Bowls too. You can only go so far with luck and this time they came up a bit short.
    All that aside, this game does not affect Brady’s GOAT status. He’s been to eight Super Bowls and no one else is even close.

  72. Louis SKOLnik says:

    February 5, 2018 at 10:02 am

    Just god awful defense. Both sides.
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    Totally agree. Exciting game for sure, but I certainly wouldn’t call it great. Receivers for both teams running wide open all over the field. Tuned in to watch the Super Bowl and a Big 12 game broke out.

  73. TheTruth says:
    Ugly game for the Pats. But they will be back.
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    No they won’t. Your quarterback is 40 years old.

    Hey look! It’s an NHPats sighting!
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    swhy19 says:
    February 5, 2018 at 10:11 am
    5-3 in SuperBowls …. not GOAT material.

    Should be 3-5. Seahawks and Failcons gave it away.

    Face it Deflatriots fans, nobody plays this well into their 40s. Brady is obviously juicing. You don’t throw for 455 yards at age 40 by drinking kale shakes.

    Can’t wait for the truth to come out. Who will rat on Brady? The Deflator? Giselle after the divorce? Malcolm Butler?

    And BTW, people don’t root against the Patriots because they’re good. They root against them because they cheat.

  74. 38lightpole says:
    February 5, 2018 at 8:58 am
    Worst part is I really think Vikings win that game against the Pats. Patriots defense was non-existent and I think, in our home stadium, Vikes defense takes it to Tom Brady. He may have thrown for a lot of yards, but he looked every bit of 40 years old.
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    Maybe if they hadn’t gotten blown out in their divisional championship playoff game, after winning the previous one by a fluke miracle, we would know… but I guess we never will.

  75. Credit BB and Brady who won each of their playoff games with what is widely considered a sub-par roster match up every single game, picking up 39 y.o. linebackers and linemen off the street and still making it to the last play of the superbowl.

    The team wins football games with a bag of potato chips, after always playing the #1 schedule and getting the worst draft picks every single year, when they aren’t being stolen by the league.

    As a Pats fan, this team has given us everything and owes us nothing. I am sincerely happy for Eagles fans and looking forward to another season.

  76. As an Eagles fan I have no voice today. This is mainly due to me screaming at the tv for the Birds to get some pressure on Brady in the 2nd half. Give any good QB a clean pocket and they’ll shred any secondary.

  77. I don’t know what the game plan was for the Eagles defense, but it seemed like the DBs were nowhere near the Patriots receivers most of the time. Most of the catches were wide open with room to run after the catch. The Eagles won the game because the Patriots defense was even worse. I would never have believed that the Eagles could win a shootout with Tom Brady, but somehow they did!

  78. pantherfan4life says:
    February 5, 2018 at 8:59 am
    So sorry Pats fans but this is the beginning of the end

    —-

    nobody believes you’re actually sorry, not that we care if you are or not, because we don’t want anyone’s sympathy.

    If it is the end, then that’s just the way it goes. I recall long ago when us Pats fans just hoped to get a playoff spot….ANY playoff spot. To think that we got to watch our team play in 8 out of the last 16 Super Bowls is just incredible, and no matter how much you jab at us, you can’t take that away.

  79. Congrats to Philly. They needed a near perfect game and got it.Certainly one of the most exciting of all SB’s. Nice try by NE, taking a 4th qtr lead but you kinda need a little defense. I never would have believed that they’d lose after scoring 33, never mind 4 points lost on kicks. Kudos to the coach for having the stones to go for it on 4th & 1.

  80. A wee bit discouraging the Pats defense didn’t show up. I agree the 4th and 1 in 4th Quarter was the game. Just one stop there, and game over.
    Good on Foles for not blinking, especially when Pats clawed back to take only lead of game…
    Something not discussed and I think a huge impact on game, is both Pats coordinators were on were their way out after game. Being interviewed before SB cannot bode well for a solid game plan. Same thing happened to Atlanta.
    Almost wondered if Patricia was calling defensive signals for Detroit…;)

  81. seahawkboymike says:
    February 5, 2018 at 10:48 am
    TheTruth says:
    Ugly game for the Pats. But they will be back.
    ————————————————————–
    No they won’t. Your quarterback is 40 years old.

    Hey look! It’s an NHPats sighting!
    ——————————————-
    swhy19 says:
    February 5, 2018 at 10:11 am
    5-3 in SuperBowls …. not GOAT material.

    Should be 3-5. Seahawks and Failcons gave it away.

    Face it Deflatriots fans, nobody plays this well into their 40s. Brady is obviously juicing. You don’t throw for 455 yards at age 40 by drinking kale shakes.

    Can’t wait for the truth to come out. Who will rat on Brady? The Deflator? Giselle after the divorce? Malcolm Butler?

    And BTW, people don’t root against the Patriots because they’re good. They root against them because they cheat.

    ——————–
    LMAO. Did you even watch the game? Brady was fantastic, not the reason the Pats lost. Glad to know you are still butt hurt that the Pats beat your team!

  82. I’ve got to say, as a Patriots fan, it’s pretty funny seeing everyone pile on here. I guess you have to feast while you can.

    Of course, I do realize that there were a fair amount of my fellow Pats fans dishing it out on a regular basis….so it’s not like it’s not deserved.

    Anyways, it is entertaining.

  83. Brady’s first mistake was to make a halfhearted effort to catch that pass. Then he also ran clock unnecessarily when he moseyed out of the pocket st the end of the first half, killing that drive. He really shouldn’t have tried to throw that backwards fumble off of the Philly lineman’s hand in that second to last drive. SAD!

  84. He is also the first QB to lose a superbowl and run off the field like a petulant child instead of congratulating the winner

    But hey, stay classy

  85. 5-3 in SuperBowls …. not GOAT material.
    ____________________________________________________________________________________________________

    What is then, going to less SBs? Losing in the division or championship round? Not making the playoffs at all? This is the dumbest argument I have ever heard.

    Plus, awesome how many Pats haters come out of the woodwork. 8 straight AFCC appearances and 2 out of the last 4 SB wins. Brady MVP season again. What makes you think they are not right back to where they were last night this time next year?

  86. steelcurtainn says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:58 am

    Patriot tears taste so sweet.
    ——————–

    How would a Steelers fan know?

  87. blessedunliketherest says:
    February 5, 2018 at 11:19 am
    5-3 in SuperBowls …. not GOAT material.
    ____________________________________________________________________________________________________

    What is then, going to less SBs? Losing in the division or championship round? Not making the playoffs at all? This is the dumbest argument I have ever heard.

    Plus, awesome how many Pats haters come out of the woodwork. 8 straight AFCC appearances and 2 out of the last 4 SB wins. Brady MVP season again. What makes you think they are not right back to where they were last night this time next year?

    ———————

    Patriots have lost more Super Bowls than anyone in history. Eleven teams have better SB winning percentages.

  88. billsbackto81 says:
    February 5, 2018 at 11:10 am

    Do you think Kraft would get upset if the Philly championship rings have 505 diamonds in them?

    ————————————————————————————————

    I must confess, this made me chuckle.

  89. I’m not sure I like watching a game that has only one punt in it. This game set defenses back 100 years. There was no defense, on either team. Or maybe it’s just that Tom Brady and Nick Foles were that good.

    In any case, I still feel that the Steelers/Cardinals Super Bowl was one of the best of all time, even though my team lost.

  90. codylaws says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:25 am
    If the O-line protect him on that play, Pats win for sure.
    ————————————
    But they didn’t and the Patriots lost for sure. 41-33. Great game.

  91. crownofthehelmet says:
    February 5, 2018 at 10:32 am
    GOAT cannot be applied to someone who’s lost 3 SBs. If not for the bumblings of SEA and ATL, Brady’s played well enough in SBs to be 3-5.

    So stupid

    If if if if if

    If no helmet catch Patriots go undefeated

  92. The same could have been said about Nick Foles if the Patriots won. If someone told me we would have faced Mariota, Bortles, and Foles in the playoffs and still came up short I wouldn’t have believed you.

  93. Brady looked physically old last night, and, most of this season. Pull a tape of him from, say, five years ago and compare it to last night. Look at the fluidity of his moves in the pocket. Last night, his motions appeared to be forced; how he stepped up and moved around in the pocket. The arm is still great, as is the mental aspect, but, the body seems to be getting a little less responsive to the instinctive orders from the brain. Just like every person’s body does when they get a little age on them.
    All you Pats fans can td this, but, compare the tapes before you do.

  94. tvguy22 says:
    February 5, 2018 at 10:09 am
    Most losses in Super Bowl history. Congrats

    Funny , you left out 5 wins tied for second most and 10 SB most in nfl

  95. steelersarebeliebers says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:01 am
    brady isn’t annoying. It’s all the patriots fans that are. He played well, I actually like him.

    Pats fans keep eating that humble pie
    ——–
    It’s so cute how 30 other teams fans all show up to pile on the insulting comments like somehow your team was actually relevant this year.

    too cute guys

  96. steelcurtainn says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:58 am

    Patriot tears taste so sweet

    —–

    I can only speak for myself….but why would anyone be tasting someone else’s tears?

  97. Brady just couldn’t make it happen at crunch time. Like the great ones in the Super Bowl. And he has lost 3. The great ones don’t do that, either. Stats.

  98. How would a Steelers fan know?
    _________________________________
    How, the Steelers beat the pats, thats how! But as usual had to have the refs take the Jesse James catch away when the world knows it was a td. Karma come back and got them!

  99. crownofthehelmet says:
    February 5, 2018 at 10:32 am

    GOAT cannot be applied to someone who’s lost 3 SBs.
    _______________________________________

    But it can be applied to someone that didn’t get to 8 Super Bowls because they lost earlier in the playoffs? Steelers fans should be more knowledgeable than to post that kind of nonsense, leave that type of tripe for the 12’s.
    Congrats to the Eagles! They got it done, the Pats D didn’t. Sometimes the other guy simply makes fewer mistakes and wins the game, adults call that football.

  100. osage44 says:
    February 5, 2018 at 11:52 am
    Brady just couldn’t make it happen at crunch time. Like the great ones in the Super Bowl. And he has lost 3. The great ones don’t do that, either. Stats.

    #tryingtoohard

  101. There is nothing at all to indicate the Patriots won’t be back in the hunt again next year. They are currently have 9-2 Super Bowl odds again. You can always spot a dope when the first thing they say is, “This is it! The beginning of the end!” . Brady looked every bit of the MVP that he is.

    It was highly likely based on the horrendous defense from both teams that Brady would have marched down and scored and we’d be talking this morning about another awesome 10 point comeback in the 4th quarter, but the Eagles got pressure and knocked the ball loose and recovered. Great play.

    Eagles deserve it, but make no mistake—the Pats will be in the thick of things again next year. The salty haters will get to remain salty.

  102. johnnyhambone says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:04 am
    would also have been the 1st qb to lose 5 super bowls in a row eclipsing buffalos 4 if it wasn’t for bad coaching by pete carroll and dan Quinn who gifted the patriots those 2 super bowl wins.
    ———————–
    or 7-1 if not for 2 great catches that could have gone either way…

  103. Sure was nice watching the Ertz touchdown dumping the patriots on their ears, kind of like 2002 when the pats were awarded the TUCK RULE that gift wrapped that game for them. WAS IT A CATCH OR WASNT IT??? WAS IT A FUMBLE OR WASNT IT ???

  104. Patriots have lost more Super Bowls than anyone in history. Eleven teams have better SB winning percentages.
    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    What’s your point? One of the loses came before Brady was born and the other when he was in high school. How does that impact his GOAT status? He’s been to 8 and won 5. Its incredible. You don’t get points for getting knocked out in the earlier rounds. You all know that, you just look for any excuse to hate on Brady.

    Congrats to the Eagles. They played a great game. Without Brady, Pats lose by 30 easy. Even in defeat, he set another passing record. No one will ever come close to what Brady has done in his career. To somehow say being 5-3 in SBs is a bad thing is ludicrous.

  105. m8gaman says:
    February 5, 2018 at 11:45 am
    steelersarebeliebers says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:01 am
    brady isn’t annoying. It’s all the patriots fans that are. He played well, I actually like him.

    Pats fans keep eating that humble pie
    ——–
    It’s so cute how 30 other teams fans all show up to pile on the insulting comments like somehow your team was actually relevant this year.

    too cute guys

    ————————-
    The funny thing is that they dont realize what they are proving with their actions. What other team has the bar set so high that to lose a Superbowl is considered a fail to be made fun of? Really the words of these haters are testimony to how great the Patriots are really.

  106. How, the Steelers beat the pats, thats how! But as usual had to have the refs take the Jesse James catch away when the world knows it was a td. Karma come back and got them!
    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    If karma is losing a tight SB to a great team the year after winning one, what do you call the Steelers losing at home in the divisional round to Black Bortles? For that matter, what do you call the last 20 years of the Pats absolutely owning the Steelers? Is that karma too?

  107. crownofthehelmet says:
    February 5, 2018 at 10:32 am
    GOAT cannot be applied to someone who’s lost 3 SBs. If not for the bumblings of SEA and ATL, Brady’s played well enough in SBs to be 3-5.

    ——————
    A little math help: 5+3=8

    8 is a record owned by the GOAT.

  108. February 5, 2018 at 8:57 am
    Patriots D lost the game. 4th and 1 in the 4th quarter and they failed to make a stop (AGAIN). That was the game.
    And the missed kicks first half, WTF?
    Ugly game for the Pats. But they will be back.

    ——————————————————
    Pats were running man coverage on that 4th down and Ertz defender got picked by an Eagles player. That last TD for the Eagles should have never happened…should have been an obvious OPI and a punt on 4th and 11.

  109. willycents says:
    February 5, 2018 at 11:43 am
    Brady looked physically old last night, and, most of this season. Pull a tape of him from, say, five years ago and compare it to last night. Look at the fluidity of his moves in the pocket. Last night, his motions appeared to be forced; how he stepped up and moved around in the pocket. The arm is still great, as is the mental aspect, but, the body seems to be getting a little less responsive to the instinctive orders from the brain. Just like every person’s body does when they get a little age on them.
    All you Pats fans can td this, but, compare the tapes before you do.

    —————————
    500 yards, 3 TDs, 0 interceptions

  110. 345snarkavenue says:
    February 5, 2018 at 11:49 am
    steelcurtainn says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:58 am

    Patriot tears taste so sweet

    —–

    I can only speak for myself….but why would anyone be tasting someone else’s tears?

    ————————
    Visit Pittsburgh. You will find your answers there.

  111. Sure was nice watching the Ertz touchdown dumping the patriots on their ears, kind of like 2002 when the pats were awarded the TUCK RULE that gift wrapped that game for them. WAS IT A CATCH OR WASNT IT??? WAS IT A FUMBLE OR WASNT IT ???
    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    So can Pats fans complain about this call for the next 17 years and bring it up as “cheating” like all the haters do?

  112. truthhurts04 says:
    February 5, 2018 at 12:02 pm
    johnnyhambone says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:04 am
    would also have been the 1st qb to lose 5 super bowls in a row eclipsing buffalos 4 if it wasn’t for bad coaching by pete carroll and dan Quinn who gifted the patriots those 2 super bowl wins.
    ———————–
    or 7-1 if not for 2 great catches that could have gone either way…

    ———-
    and during those 10 games your team was on the golf course. 0 tries out of 10. When your team does better then and only then does your trash talk count. Please go back to the drawing board and think up some more crap. :rollingmyeyes:

  113. steelcurtainn says:
    February 5, 2018 at 11:56 am
    How would a Steelers fan know?
    _________________________________
    How, the Steelers beat the pats, thats how! But as usual had to have the refs take the Jesse James catch away when the world knows it was a td. Karma come back and got them!

    ——————
    By Kharma you mean how the refs made a correct call that didnt go Pittsburgh’s way, and yesterday they made a correct call that didn’t go the Patriot’s way? Actually I think thats not called kharma, its called football.

  114. elmerbrownelmerbrown says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:00 am

    Tommy Boy is also 1-3 when he plays a team from a real division NFC EAST in the Super Bowl

    Might see your sorry team on Thursday night! HA HA!

  115. Wellman says:
    February 5, 2018 at 12:15 pm

    willycents says:
    February 5, 2018 at 11:43 am
    Brady looked physically old last night, and, most of this season. Pull a tape of him from, say, five years ago and compare it to last night. Look at the fluidity of his moves in the pocket. Last night, his motions appeared to be forced; how he stepped up and moved around in the pocket. The arm is still great, as is the mental aspect, but, the body seems to be getting a little less responsive to the instinctive orders from the brain. Just like every person’s body does when they get a little age on them.
    All you Pats fans can td this, but, compare the tapes before you do.

    —————————
    500 yards, 3 TDs, 0 interceptions

    ——————————————————–

    And the turnover that effectively ended the game.

    Gotta take the good with the bad. Be consistent, at least

  116. joetoronto says:
    February 5, 2018 at 10:37 am
    Wellman says:
    February 5, 2018 at 10:05 am
    steelcurtainn says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:58 am
    Patriot tears taste so sweet.

    ——————
    If someone actually thinks losing in the Superbowl is a season to cry about imagine if they were a Steelers fan how they would feel.

    ——-

    If winning is all that matters then Steelers fans probably feel pretty good about their 6 Super Bowls.

    ——————-
    so you have only been to 6? Thats lame by some team’s standards. Oh wait you didnt mention the losses. So 8. Still lame.

  117. Just imagine if Brady has a team manager who buys good weapons on defense and offense. BB has been dealing Brady’s hard work and dedication with injustice. He got one elite Gronk who is an off and on weapon with his injuries. Maybe Brady should go to a team who will give him full support and not just give him average players all the time. Defense loses or wins games. Brady is getting old to carry the team on his back. Watching him play without Edelman and Cooks and still carve the Eagles great defense is a marvel.

  118. As someone who has watched football for almost 30 years, that game felt more like bad defense than excellent QB play. Not that Foles or Brady were bad, it’s just that both secondaries were laughably bad. I wonder how Joe Montana, John Elway or Dan Marino would’ve played against such secondaries, with little pressure? I’m guessing at least 500 yards and 5 TD’s.

  119. “Credit BB and Brady who won each of their playoff games with what is widely considered a sub-par roster match up every single game, picking up 39 y.o. linebackers and linemen off the street and still making it to the last play of the superbowl.

    The team wins football games with a bag of potato chips, after always playing the #1 schedule and getting the worst draft picks every single year, when they aren’t being stolen by the league.

    As a Pats fan, this team has given us everything and owes us nothing. I am sincerely happy for Eagles fans and looking forward to another season.”

    ——-
    Credit Belicheck for letting go of the best two defenders he’s drafted in a long time in Jones and Collins. Credit Belicheck for needing to get a 39 yo OLBer on his team to have any semblance of a pass rush. Credit Belicheck for sending his 40 yo franchise QB down the sidelines for a pass. Credit Brady for coughing the ball up the one time he’s touched before he throws the ball. Credit Bellicheck for benching his #2 CB in the biggest game of the year, while the other teams WRs ran free all day. Credit Brady for shaking the other teams hands after the game.

  120. The offense missed on a few opportunities in the first half. Should have really had at least 7 more, but overall Brady played great. And the Philly defense was getting torched leaving receivers wide open. I don’t even know how they could be that open. However they made the play to win the game with that sack. The Patriots defense on the other hand was the reason the Patriots lost. Historically bad. They are lucky they have Brady because otherwise it’s a massive blow out. I really think the biggest drive of the game was after the Patriots took the lead in the 4th quarter. Patriots D gets a stop there and maybe the Patriots take control of the game. I figured before this game that leaving up to a Brady magic yet again wouldn’t work this time. It’s a shame, but as a Patriots fan I am surprisingly not too upset. It was a good game and competitive to the end and Philly actually had to beat Brady at his best. They deserved that win.

  121. commentawaitingdeletion says:
    February 5, 2018 at 11:56 am
    crownofthehelmet says:
    February 5, 2018 at 10:32 am

    GOAT cannot be applied to someone who’s lost 3 SBs.
    _______________________________________

    But it can be applied to someone that didn’t get to 8 Super Bowls because they lost earlier in the playoffs? Steelers fans should be more knowledgeable than to post that kind of nonsense, leave that type of tripe for the 12’s.
    Congrats to the Eagles! They got it done, the Pats D didn’t. Sometimes the other guy simply makes fewer mistakes and wins the game, adults call that football.
    —————————————

    It’s called “longevity”. Brady has already played 100 more games (6 seasons worth of games) longer than Joe Montana. This means Brady was healthier than Montana. He played longer than Montana. He’s not better than Montana though, who was 4-0 in SB’s and performed at a higher level in those games. Brady also never had to deal with his genius coach retiring, or getting traded to an inferior team. Context, kids, context.

  122. The only reason Brady continues to play is to break Peyton’s records. Umm, Peyton retired at 38. Brady will need a couple of more years.
    _________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    What records, the regular season? You think anyone cares about that? Peyton was one of the worst SB QBs in the history of the game and he consistently played with better offensive weapons. Archie Manning would need to have another son just so the entire Manning family has a shot to combine to do what Brady has.

  123. Brady did all the could to make up for the D being out gunned. The irony, and I watched a lot of Pats games with DTV, the Pats D was not that good this year. The Pats struggled in a lot of games close games just go make the playoffs. An even though they are my favorite AFC team and I thought they would lose because of the D, not the pass rush of the Eagles.
    Fix the D and they can be right in the mix next year.

  124. Football was more interesting when you could play defense. There is no balance in the game. The Pats had no huge pass plays, and no really great throws, yet Brady threw for 505 yards – and still loses. For me, football was much better in the 1960s and early 1970s.

  125. Remember kids – if you lose in the wild card round instead of dragging an inferior team like Elway’s Broncos or Brady’s 2017 Pats the Super Bowl, it’s a higher accomplishment.

  126. I wonder how Joe Montana, John Elway or Dan Marino would’ve played against such secondaries, with little pressure? I’m guessing at least 500 yards and 5 TD’s.
    =====

    Not sure Marino’s records would be breakable in that scenario.

  127. johnnyhambone says:
    February 5, 2018 at 9:04 am
    would also have been the 1st qb to lose 5 super bowls in a row eclipsing buffalos 4 if it wasn’t for bad coaching by pete carroll and dan Quinn who gifted the patriots those 2 super bowl wins.
    ——————————————-

    If ifs and buts were candy and nuts………everyday would be Christmas.

  128. Your legendary quarterback has an outstanding performance (in this case, throws for over 500 yards, 3 touchdowns, and a 4th quarter comeback) and you still lose. Welcome to Drew Brees’ world for the past 4+ years…ah well, Brady just proved again why he’s the heart and soul of the Pats…

  129. I’m no Tomasina Brady fan, but he had a fair amount of drops by key players an he lost his best deep threat.

    And for once, the refs gave the opponent three unearned touchdowns.

  130. As a Bears fan who admires Brady and Belichick but at the same time I have to give full credit to the Eagles players and coaches for playing a great offensive game. Their offense was so inventive and unrelenting in exploiting the Pats poor defense. But the piling on here on Brady is ridiculous. The man just gave a 500 yard game! I guess this comes with the territory but can’t we just appreciate an exciting football that’s played on the field and NOT on the internet?

    I would not call this a “great” game. It’s exciting and entertaining for sure. But lacking stellar defenses from both teams, it’s frustrating to watch for fans who enjoy defense. The lack of explosive plays on defense undone the Pats. The Eagles made the one that matters and they are the champions now.

  131. Except he choked in the clutch with that fumble. Not only that, he missed that catch and threw so many bad passes that even Collinsworth pointed it out.

    QBs throw for a lot of yards when they’re trying to come from behind. If they had been ahead the Patriots would have been running the ball more instead of passing to catch up.

  132. rownofthehelmet says:
    February 5, 2018 at 10:32 am
    GOAT cannot be applied to someone who’s lost 3 SBs. If not for the bumblings of SEA and ATL, Brady’s played well enough in SBs to be 3-5.

    ——–

    That makes no sense. if he retired at the end of last year you would have agreed he’s the goat, but he wins the NFL MVP and makes the Super Bowl and throws for 505 yards and no picks at 40 years old and somehow he’s worse?

    You have to adjust your thinking on wins and losses with Brady. When you have been to 8 Super bowls and 12 AFC Championships you are going to lose a few.

    Not to mention, the AFC were tomato cans for like 15 years there in the 80s and 90s. The NFC just had to show up, so if you look at all the seasons that guys like Montana didn’t make the Super Bowl and lost in the NFC playoffs, they are much worse than Brady making it and losing. That’s the way you have to look at it.

  133. revelation123 says:
    February 5, 2018 at 8:41 pm
    Except he choked in the clutch with that fumble. Not only that, he missed that catch and threw so many bad passes that even Collinsworth pointed it out.
    QBs throw for a lot of yards when they’re trying to come from behind. If they had been ahead the Patriots would have been running the ball more instead of passing to catch up.

    ——————

    Philly has the best Run defense in the NFL… can’t just run it on them in a shoot out. Patriots offense and special teams certainly didn’t score enough off 350 yards in the first half. Should have had 7 to 12 more points. Credit to the Eagles with some key stops there too, but the Patriots muffed the kicks and the Brady drop, which were unforced errors. Otherwise, Brady moved the ball up and down the field and took the lead in the 4th. Yeah… Mason let a guy through and Brady didn’t see him. Brady takes part of the blame for that for sure, but you can’t put a game on Brady magic every game. Same thing happened in 2007 and 2011. The Patriots needed that 4th and 1 stop at the Philly 45. If Brady got the ball back with a lead then it would have been a chance to seal it. The Patriots defense was horrendous. That was arguably Brady’s best Super Bowl performance and he lost. No team had previously ever lost a game in NFL history with 600+ yards of offense. Blame goes on the defense for this one and BB for screwing up the locker room with Butler.

  134. rownofthehelmet says:
    February 5, 2018 at 10:32 am
    GOAT cannot be applied to someone who’s lost 3 SBs. If not for the bumblings of SEA and ATL, Brady’s played well enough in SBs to be 3-5.

    =============

    Too bad Brady has given his team a 4th quarter the lead in ALL EIGHT of the Super Bowls he’s played in. GOAT QB, without question.

  135. sonscompass says:

    February 5, 2018 at 1:37 pm

    commentawaitingdeletion says:
    February 5, 2018 at 11:56 am
    crownofthehelmet says:
    February 5, 2018 at 10:32 am

    GOAT cannot be applied to someone who’s lost 3 SBs.
    _______________________________________

    But it can be applied to someone that didn’t get to 8 Super Bowls because they lost earlier in the playoffs? Steelers fans should be more knowledgeable than to post that kind of nonsense, leave that type of tripe for the 12’s.
    Congrats to the Eagles! They got it done, the Pats D didn’t. Sometimes the other guy simply makes fewer mistakes and wins the game, adults call that football.
    —————————————

    It’s called “longevity”. Brady has already played 100 more games (6 seasons worth of games) longer than Joe Montana. This means Brady was healthier than Montana. He played longer than Montana. He’s not better than Montana though, who was 4-0 in SB’s and performed at a higher level in those games. Brady also never had to deal with his genius coach retiring, or getting traded to an inferior team. Context, kids, context.

    ====================

    Montana’s teams also didn’t have to deal with the salary cap and constant roster turnover…also fewer teams in the league.

  136. rownofthehelmet says:
    February 5, 2018 at 10:32 am
    GOAT cannot be applied to someone who’s lost 3 SBs. If not for the bumblings of SEA and ATL, Brady’s played well enough in SBs to be 3-5.
    =========================
    Even at 3-5 that should be good enough. At least according to the DMarino\PManning pundits.

  137. 5-3 in SuperBowls …. not GOAT material.
    ——–
    So you mean that making it to more Superbowls than anybody else, AND winning more Superbowls than anybody else is a bad thing?
    That is simply asinine. It is the dumbest sports argument in the vast history of dumb sports arguments.
    A BAD year for this team has been only winning an AFC championship.

  138. mathprof84 says:
    February 6, 2018 at 8:30 pm
    5-3 in SuperBowls …. not GOAT material.

    He was goat material after SB49. 51 was the icing. Cherry, still time. Done deal, whining notwithstanding.

  139. revelation123 says:

    February 5, 2018 at 8:41 pm

    Except he choked in the clutch with that fumble. Not only that, he missed that catch and threw so many bad passes that even Collinsworth pointed it out.

    QBs throw for a lot of yards when they’re trying to come from behind. If they had been ahead the Patriots would have been running the ball more instead of passing to catch up.

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    Pats did go ahead. Brady is now 8 for 8 in giving his team a 4th qtr/OT lead in Super Bowls. And he broke a SB record for passing yards without his 2 best WRs. GOAT performance wasted with bad defense.

  140. Montana’s teams also didn’t have to deal with the salary cap and constant roster turnover…also fewer teams in the league.
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    4 less teams = better teams

    No cap, less turnover = better teams

    Montana’s era = a better era of football

  141. Nope, fewer teams, smaller playbooks, smaller staffs, smaller pool of athletes to draw from equal easier era. The coaching, medical, front office, and tech staffs of today dwarf those of older eras, do you think that’s because it’s less work to get to the top now? That makes no sense.

  142. do you think that’s because it’s less work to get to the top now?
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    The same cluster of teams have been at the top/in the playoffs for the last 20 years.

    Thats not a coincidence.

  143. aarons444 says:

    February 9, 2018 at 12:10 pm

    do you think that’s because it’s less work to get to the top now?
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    The same cluster of teams have been at the top/in the playoffs for the last 20 years.

    Thats not a coincidence.

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    Hardly would call 2 teams (Pats and Steelers) a “cluster”. All other teams have had dips and even the Pats and Steelers have had them. The variety of teams in the playoffs over the last 20 years is without question more diverse than the 80’s. Not sure where you are getting this from.

    And you still haven’t answered the question, is it less work to get to the top of the NFL now? Is that why so there are so many more specialized coaches, players, trainers and front office people?

  144. And you still haven’t answered the question, is it less work to get to the top of the NFL now?
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    12 Teams don’t have a Lombardi Trophy.

    It’s easy to stay on top.

    I would say that about every era.

  145. aarons444 says:

    February 9, 2018 at 2:09 pm

    And you still haven’t answered the question, is it less work to get to the top of the NFL now?
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    12 Teams don’t have a Lombardi Trophy.

    It’s easy to stay on top.

    I would say that about every era.

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    Not really sure what your arguing then if you think its easy to stay on top in any era…But there were fewer unique SB winners in 80’s than in either the 00’s or 10’s. Competition, player and coach movement all make it harder. And with the popularity of the NFL rising since then and the higher population, the pool of athletes is much bigger.

  146. Competition, player and coach movement all make it harder.
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    Keeping teams together made it tougher.

    The 49ers weren’t the only team that kept their stars. So did the Giants. Twice, they almost ended Montana’s career… Joe Gibbs went to 4 Super Bowls, winning 3. His team was together. The Bears didn’t have the same success of those teams, but that D was together for a long stretch. The Eagles.. The Cowboys had fallen by the late 80s, but were relevant for most of that decade.

    Tougher.

    Not a single sliver of doubt in my mind.

  147. Sounds easier once you have good players and a good coach. Harder to find and teach new players every year. That’s why current staffs are so much larger than the 80’s. Its more work.

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