Eagles are short on cap space heading into 2018

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Eagles G.M. Howie Roseman did outstanding work in developing a championship roster for the 2017 season. He’s going to have to do even better work to repeat as champions in the 2018 season.

That’s because the Eagles head into the 2018 season in desperate need of salary cap space.

In fact, as of right now the Eagles are projected to be over the 2018 salary cap just with the contracts they already have. So they’ll have to release or restructure some players just to comply with league rules before the start of the league year, even before they get to cap space they’ll have to free up for free agents and their draft class.

Not all of those moves will necessarily be difficult, and every team has veteran players it decides to cut and other players who agree to a team-friendly contract restructuring. But when you’re last in cap space, that’s a difficult place to be in.

And that raises an interesting question about the future of Super Bowl MVP Nick Foles: Although the Eagles have indicated that they want to keep Foles as Carson Wentz‘s backup, Foles will cost $7.6 million against the cap in 2018, and they might decide that they simply don’t have the luxury of an expensive backup — especially when some team might blow them away with a trade offer for the Super Bowl MVP-winning quarterback. If another team offers the Eagles some combination of draft picks and inexpensive players, Philadelphia might decide that’s the best way to manage the cap.

So while Foles and Wentz are both good quarterbacks, and are both on relatively inexpensive contracts, that doesn’t mean keeping them both is the right move. The better move might be to use Foles to build a sustainable roster around Wentz, one that can win more Super Bowls in the years to come.

76 responses to “Eagles are short on cap space heading into 2018

  1. It’s clear evidence that Howie very quietly took a look at these team near the end of TC and decided that this was the year to go all in. Glad it worked out.

    But it wouldn’t be the first offseason that started with a tight cap and a low number of picks. Howie’s nothing if not resourceful. Chances are good that he’ll take a day or two off to savor the win, but will be back at his desk by mid-week working with whatever he’s got that will leverage more cap space and more picks. And he’ll probably succeed at achieving at least little more of both.

  2. If Peters and Sproles want to come back they’ll have to take a big pay cut. Torrey Smith is gone next year, as is Blount. Those moves right there free up a lot of space.

  3. Sorry boys. The moves to get under the cap are already in place. It won’t take much work.

    BTW, 21 of the 22 starters are already signed for next year, and they have three key starters (QB, LT, MLB) coming back next year.

    Translation: Good luck everybody! This is just getting started…

  4. Anyone who follows the cap knows the howie knew this is was going for broke. Congrats to the Eagles, but it comes at a price of not being able to be competitive for the foreseable future. No Cap space left.

  5. OR, they could realize that they have under $10 million tied up in QB’s, keep them both just in case….. they won’t, of course, but they could…

  6. TheCommish says:
    February 5, 2018 at 12:31 pm
    Translation: they won’t be back in the big game any time soon.

    Don’t bet on it. Many of those players will restructure to stay, and Philly has set itself up as a place to play. Howie will get us under the cap, some will not be back for sure. This happens every season, and to every Super Bowl winning team. Heck, both Blount And Long were on the Patriots last year but somehow they made it back.

    Not to worry, the Eagles are for real, but you just keep on hating.

    Underdogs forever!!!!!

  7. TheCommish says:
    February 5, 2018 at 12:31 pm
    Translation: they won’t be back in the big game any time soon.
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    The main reason they don’t have space is because virtually every single contributing player from this team is under contract for next year. That’s why they are listed as the second favorite to win the Super Bowl again.

  8. TheCommish says:
    February 5, 2018 at 12:31 pm
    Translation: they won’t be back in the big game any time soon.
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    Yeah, I wouldn’t be so sure about that. The Eagles have 20 of their 22 starters all signed for next year as well as many key back-ups(Foles, Clement, most of the D-line rotation) so, nobody will be going anywhere next year. Besides, one cut will clear up most of the issue when they cut or restructure Jason Peters contract!

  9. TheCommish says:

    February 5, 2018 at 12:31 pm

    Translation: they won’t be back in the big game any time soon.

    ————————————–

    False. Your tears are delicious.

    The World Champion Philadelphia Eagles.

  10. They have 20 of 22 starters on a SB winning team under contract for next year and their average age is something like 26. Why would anyone conclude that they will not be competitive going forward?

  11. Managing / getting under the cap will be a cake walk for Howie. That has never been an issue for him. There are plenty of hurdles to trying to repeat, but cap space won’t be one

  12. mrbiggstuff says:
    February 5, 2018 at 12:37 pm
    Sorry boys. The moves to get under the cap are already in place. It won’t take much work.

    BTW, 21 of the 22 starters are already signed for next year, and they have three key starters (QB, LT, MLB) coming back next year.

    Translation: Good luck everybody! This is just getting started…

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    I’m with you. The Patriots Fan Talk aka Genius Board all has an opinion, then there are facts. Fact….Eagles are fine for next year, and I am not an Eagles fan.

    Was last night though 🙂

  13. There are a couple of obvious moves the Eagles can make to gain back cap space. Releasing Jason Peters, Brent Celek and Torrey Smith will be a good start.

  14. Salary cap, schmalary cap. They don’t need to add any new pieces and it’s pretty easy to move money around. They might have some problems long term but they’ll be fine next year.

  15. Foles value will never be higher, so I would look into a trade. I don’t doubt the Eagles management could find someone to backup Wentz that Pederson could develop and integrate in his system.

  16. They have lots of options to free up cap space, 20 of 22 starters under contract, and a bunch of players who will be hot trade commodities. What Howie Roseman has done to rebuild the team after Chip Kelly decimated it is remarkable. They will be contenders for years to come.

  17. They already knew they were cap strapped but luckily most of the young studs are locked up. The culture that has been built in that locker room might even make some of the vets take less money and have the youngins restructure to stay with that org to hopefully win multiple SBs…Foles could even very well say if he is traded, he is retiring since he already announced it once so money is no issue for the MVP

  18. I reviewed contracts on Spotrac early this morning. Player like Jason Peter certainly needs to restructure his $11 million cap hit. Brandon Brooks $11 million cap hit; Torrey Smith $5 million, Kendricks $7.5 million; Celek $5 million. So there’s room to make moves.

  19. TheCommish says:
    February 5, 2018 at 12:31 pm

    Translation: they won’t be back in the big game any time soon.

    Bet you really want to believe that, don’t you?

    Hilarious.

  20. A Super Bowl MVP “backup” (an ear-piece standing on the sidelines): heck no! Tom Coughlin/Jacksonville, go and get “your guy”

  21. the17thearlofoxford says:
    February 5, 2018 at 12:39 pm

    Foles to Arizona for the 15th pick.

    Doubtful. I would rather have 2nd and 3rd this draft and a 2nd next.

  22. Nick Foles is a hero and will forever be respected in the city of Philadelphia . That said, he likely won’t go to a team with the same offensive talent. He won’t go to a team with a better coach. And he won’t go to a team with a better O line.

    As for the Eagles cap problems , they are going to have to make some tough decisions . Curry , Smith, and Celek are likely cut . While they will lose depth, you have to take into account the fact that the only rookie that really contributed was Barnett. Sidney Jones redshirted and Hollins looks really good . Also most of their talent is young and should be even better next year .

  23. ggg882146685 says:
    February 5, 2018 at 12:58 pm
    Eagles have no talent this team would have gone 4-12 with another coach doug pederson is the greatest coach in sports history

    Welp, you must not be a very good judge of talent, but you are half right. Dougie for President!!!

  24. I think the story of the entire NFL season might be Howie Roseman. How does a non “football guy”, take over a team and kick everyone else’s behind? Is Howie that smart, or is there a real weakness in the way teams are putting together their front offices? Might be a combination of both. Also, Chip Kelly deserves some credit too for helping clean up that locker room. We live in an era where you have to choose sides and hate the other guy, but I don’t fall for that.

  25. Plug in starting free agents are not cheap. You can buy your way in for a year, but they will struggle with cap for the next three or four years.

  26. charliecharger says:
    February 5, 2018 at 1:13 pm
    I think the story of the entire NFL season might be Howie Roseman. How does a non “football guy”, take over a team and kick everyone else’s behind? Is Howie that smart, or is there a real weakness in the way teams are putting together their front offices? Might be a combination of both. Also, Chip Kelly deserves some credit too for helping clean up that locker room. We live in an era where you have to choose sides and hate the other guy, but I don’t fall for that.

    A non-football guy like Howie hired a football guy like Joe Douglas to help him, that’s how. And Chip Kelly “helped”…….sheesh, all Howie did was undo all of Kelly’s mistakes. And count it lucky for other teams that Buffalo refused to trade us Shady McCoy back, though Ajayi is pretty good.

  27. blackqbwhiterb says:
    February 5, 2018 at 12:39 pm
    OR, they could realize that they have under $10 million tied up in QB’s, keep them both just in case….. they won’t, of course, but they could…

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    This says it all When you get two QB’s, one who played like a top 3 and the other who played like a top 10, for under 10 million? Without Insurance would you feel comfortable driving your car or going to the Doctor?

    It would be insane to get rid of Foles unless it was for a top 5 pick and that’s not going to happen. He peaked when it mattered. It’s now offical Lore, Prince of the City forever but it remains to be seen if he could do it it in another system.

    Sort of like Ted Ginn playing lights out in Carolina ans sucking everywhere else, until this year. You just never know and the jury will always be out on Foles until he does it again. But to Philly fans, he did it when it mattered.

    The first one matters, forever.

  28. They will move on from Vinny Curry, Celek, and T. Smith. That will save them 14 million right there. Then move some cap around with contract adjustments. Howie does this better then anyone.

  29. Howie will restructure some contracts and cut ties with some older players (Jason Peters). And, as someone stated earlier, almost all of their starters are already under contract. They’ll be fine.

  30. Damn impressive year for that team. I won’t take anything away from what they accomplished, especially with the injuries they endured. Well done Philly.

  31. Sorry Iggle fans, but this is the price you pay to become a Champion. It happened to the Seahawks, my Packers, the Saints, and quite a few other SB winning teams.

    Not bagging on your team at all – but now everybody is going to want to get paid because they are a SB champion – whether they are under contract or not.

    Maybe your team can work through it. But history says otherwise…..

  32. Unless Foles declines to go to a team he doesn’t want to. I would play the “keep me or cut me” program. I wouldnt go to a crappy team and get the crap beat out of himself.

  33. This is a myth

    They release Brent Celek, and Torrey Smith and they are fine (and probably can resign Bradham). If Sproles isn’t back, that’s another 5m, and that’s before any restructures

    Eagles are fine for cap space

  34. Congrats to Philly. That team last night was solid and prepared. Enjoy the Championship!!! The discussions and moves will come soon enough. But for next week enjoy this moment and win.

    If you can’t just enjoy it know that The salary cap will certainly cause the front office to Make a few moves. Some of which many won’t like. Foles seemingly gets traded for a draft pick or two. Peters being cut post June saves 7M of the 9M they are over in 2018. None of free agents, Sproles and Blount included, will be back in all likelihood. The main core and youth of the team means they will be in the running to repeat and certainly compete the next few years.

    Again, congrats.

  35. Torrey Smith is gone, Blount is probably too. Vinny Curry is gonna have to take a paycut/restructuring as well as Jason Peters. Others will be willing to take pay cuts. Also FA will be willing to take less to win a championship, dont forget that.

  36. Trading Foles might be the right thing to do, since he may never be as valuable as he is right now, but the decision has little to do with the cap. The Eagles can solve their cap problem by cutting Torrey Smith ($5 mil cap savings), Brent Celek ($4 mil cap savings) and either restructuring or cutting Jason Peters ($10.25 mil cap savings, if cut). They also are likely to pass on signing their expensive free agents (LaGarrette Blount and Darren Sproles), except for Nigel Bradham.

  37. The Eagles saw an opportunity and spent some money to get there,
    it clearly was a good gamble. Teams have a window and hopefully
    The GM can make the right moves like signing Jeffries that helps
    put a team over the top. Congratulations to a great front office
    who regained control and quickly undid some disaterous moves
    by their predecessor. I am not an Eagles fan but have to admit
    they did a good job.

  38. Nick foles is limited he is not good put foles on jaguars and they dont win because of play calling and scheme doug pederson made everyone better this eagles team was supposed to go 7-9 with wentz

  39. dnicemoney1 says:
    February 5, 2018 at 3:04 pm
    Also FA will be willing to take less to win a championship, dont forget that.
    ////////
    Nope. Doesn’t happen. Sometimes, sometimes, teams can sign their own players for a little less than what they would have gotten on the free agent market. But, players are hired guns. They go to where the most money is offered. Winning is a very distant second for these guys.

  40. Wentz $7.275mm cap hit 2018
    Folks $7.6mm cap hit 2018

    $15mm total.

    Defeats the who!e idea of a low rookie contract QB cap hit in order to keep other positions stocked.

    The Eagles would be wasting two years of collecting talent elsewhere with the benefit of a quality QB still under his rookie contract by keeping Folks.

  41. maurysline says:
    The Eagles would be wasting two years of collecting talent elsewhere with the benefit of a quality QB still under his rookie contract by keeping Folks
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    Only It’s not a waste at all. Foles signed a two year deal, in year one he saves the Eagles season when the likely league MVP goes down and all Foles does is win the Eagles a Super Bowl. And in year two he will, in all likelihood, be the Eagles insurance policy should Wentz not be completely healthy to start the season next year. That might be the best 12 million dollars ever spent on a back-up QB, Ever!!!!

  42. seahawkboymike says:
    February 5, 2018 at 4:04 pm
    Dear Seahawk haters: This is what actual cap hell looks like.
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    Again, someone who fails to see reality. 1) The Eagles haven’t been in cap hell, ever. Seriously, look back at history with this team, they practically wrote the book on cap management. 2) 20 of 22 starters are signed for next year and most all of the key back-ups are signed as well, a few guys will have to go but that will hurt more for sentimental reasons than actual talent at this point( Peters, Celek, Sproles). and finally 3) The average age of this team is like 26 years old and most of the key players are signed to longer deals, the core of this team will be here for a while!!!

  43. So? There’s nothing wrong with going all in when your QB is on a rookie deal and you think you can win it all. If your team always had a ton of space, you’d never win. Good players cost money, and you have to push all in when you’re MVP caliber QB is on a rookie deal. The equation changes radically when you have to pay your QB 30 million (probably what wentz will get in two years), so take advantage now. The team will look different next year, but so does every other team.

  44. When you rank each team by average age of the starters, Philly is #7…. 7th oldest.

    The youngest starting lineups include New Orleans, Minnesota, Atlanta, and the LA Rams.

    I have a feeling it is going to be quite a battle in the NFC for years to come. Philly should be happy they brought one home first.

  45. Nick waaayy overperformed his contract. Teams will be fighting for his services. At least four teams right off the top of my head.
    I don’t want him to go because he’s great for the team, but his value is sky high right now and the Eagles have say in where he goes and who he plays against.
    The Jets would be a great fit. It’s close to Philadelphia so Nick’s move would not be a huge deal. Plus, the Patriots would get two opportunities a year to get their butts handed to them by Nick Foles and his Jets.
    And the Eagles would get the cap relief they need and a juicy draft pick to help them replace the talents of the guys that they lose to free agency or retirement.

    Just sayin.

  46. So is Nick Foles the answer? If so, why not trade Carson Wentz for several first round draft choices to help build the roster. Apparently Foles can run the offense when it is tuned to his talents and that would make Wentz a very expendable commodity with a good return on investment. How about offering Cleveland the chance to get him back at twice the cost they could have paid last year! (sarcasm)

  47. If any organization is stupid enough to bench they guy that lead and won them a Superbowl…it’s Philly! You wonder why this is Philly’s first Superbowl ever…? Decision making!

    Teams make mistakes all the time…the good ones swallow their pride and go with what works regardless of how much money is given to or draft picks traded for what they thought was the original solution…

    Philly has a bird in the hand…but they’re gonna outsmart the rest of the league…just like they’ve been doing…

  48. They just won with their back up QB. Wentz is a very good QB, but this does not help him when it’s time to negotiate a new contract. I’m not putting him down, this is just fact. Wentz hasn’t played in one playoff game yet. Will he get $30 mil, I guess we will see. If he is that good going forward, It’s a good problem to have.

  49. It’s funny that so many think a team can win a second year simply by standing pat.
    If you are not getting better, you are getting worse.
    21/22 started does not mean all 21 can’t (or shouldn’t) be upgraded.

  50. Wentz tore his ACL pretty late in the season. So, he may not be healthy enough to start the 2018 season. If they get rid of Foles, they may miss the playoffs by the time Went is healthy enough to start again. He may also be rusty after missing so many games and the preseason.

  51. Here are the highest paid UFA (unrestricted free agents) for the Eagles, the positions they played, their ages, and salaries

    Darren Sproles RB 34 $4,500,000, Nigel Bradham OLB 28 $3,500,000, Trey Burton TE 26 2,746,000, Corey Graham FS 32 $1,600,000, LeGarrette Blount RB 31 $1,250,000

    Sproles is likely history. Beyond that it is up to the team to decide who stays and sho goes. The other free agents, all making less than a million bucks, are: Caleb Sturgis, Daennell Ellerbe, William Beatty, Bryan Braman, Najee Goode, Patrick Robinson, Kenjon Barner, and Beau Alle n

  52. It doesn’t matter. Nick Foles will forever be the greatest quarterback in Philadelphia football history.

  53. The Eagles still rank dead last in Super Bowl wins in the NFC EAST

    Cut Nick and anytime the other Wentz screws up the fans will go nuts

    You are doomed

  54. LMAO if anyone thinks Eagles are going to have an issue with the cap doesn’t know anything about Howie. Howie is a wizard with numbers. Eagles are always near the cap. Also just cutting some of their aging players especially the ones that didn’t play this season and save a lot of money. Eagles will be just fine. Hate on haters. Cue Eagles are the World Champs.

  55. Relax. They are over on paper now. JP wants to play another year and will restructure. LB likely gone. Celek likely retires. Smith likely gone. They’ll get under. And that’s before considering finding a taker for Vinny.

  56. First, why is it a forgone conclusion that Wentz gets his job back and Foles gets the clipboard, or shipped to the highest bidder? What? Super Bowl MVP, saves a season that looked lost and straight balls out to the last snap? And he’s gone? If I were an Eagles fan, I would be taking to the streets to campaign for keeping Foles.

    Second, slow your roll kids. Eagles won their first ever SB and TWO DAYS LATER guys are talking about more championships…wow. You’d think you would still be riding the high, not chasing the next one already.

    Third, the salary cap is what it is, every team deals with it equally. The better/best teams spend up to the limits, and manage it year to year. Then you have teams who stockpile 60mil in cap room and always talk about how bright the future is. Eagles are in fine shape, and look to be a force in a powerful NFC for the next few years.

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