O’Shea, Flores the favorites to take over in New England

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For the Patriots, the message remains to “do your job.” And if that job is done well enough, a better job is looming.

That’s why the leading candidates to replace offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels and defensive coordinator Matt Patricia come from within the walls of Gillette Stadium. On the offensive side, receivers coach Chad O’Shea has emerged as the favorite. Assistant quarterbacks coach Jerry Schuplisnki was regarded as having an outside shot at replacing McDaniels (who also served as quarterbacks coach); amid reports that Schuplinski is heading to Indy with McDaniels, O’Shea becomes the top candidate.

Defensively, it has been presumed that linebackers coach Brian Flores will take the next step. Last week, talk emerged of coach Bill Belichick interviewing Ohio State assistant Greg Schiano for the job. The current thinking is that, if Schiano joins the team, he’d have a different position — possibly assistant head coach and de facto defensive coordinator in waiting.

Regardless of how it plays out, the Patriots will be replacing both coordinators for the first time since 2004, when Charlie Weis left for Notre Dame and Romeo Crennel became the new coach in Cleveland.

52 responses to “O’Shea, Flores the favorites to take over in New England

  1. Reminder to Pats fan:

    Brett Favre had a great season at 40, arguably MVP level. The last moment of his greatness was before Tracy Porter intercepted him in the NFC Championship game. And then at 41…The Cliff introduced himself.

    Tom Brady had a great season at 40, and was MVP. The last moment of his greatness at least for this year was just before he fumbled with 2 minutes left in the Super Bowl. And then at 41…. well we will find out.

    Nobody beats Father time. NOBODY.

    Enjoy what’s left Pats fan. If the AFC Least can figure things out the end is coming a lot sooner than you think for your run as an NFL heavyweight.

  2. Pats fan 10 years ago: LOLZ at Peyton fans! Stats are for losers! One and dones!

    Pats fan today: Brady was awesome! He lost but YARDS! STATS!

    Hilarious.

  3. Braz says:
    February 6, 2018 at 2:03 pm
    Pats fan 10 years ago: LOLZ at Peyton fans! Stats are for losers! One and dones!

    Pats fan today: Brady was awesome! He lost but YARDS! STATS!

    Hilarious.

    Hilarious is right
    Brady has 5. (The most by any QB)

    And I bet you cant proved 1 comment from a pats fan saying, “he lost but yards stats”

    And last I checked , Manning is still the king of the “ one and done”

  4. Braz says:
    February 6, 2018 at 2:03 pm
    Pats fan today: Brady was awesome! He lost but YARDS! STATS!
    Hilarious.
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    Tell that to the same Braz who admitted 8 minutes earlier: “Tom Brady had a great season at 40, and was MVP.”

  5. @BRAZ

    Brett Favre doesn’t even come close in terms of preparation and maintaining/caring for his body. Tom is more durable, stronger, and a smarter player at 40 then he was in his 20’s.

    We (logical Pats fans) are very well aware of the fact that the end is near. Anyone who claims that we think he’s playing at an elite level until he’s 45 is just crazy. With that being said, the guy just lit up a top-5 defense in the Super Bowl (!!!) and lost solely because the defense was atrocious (that’s being kind).

  6. Flash1287 says:
    February 6, 2018 at 2:35 pm

    Braz says:
    February 6, 2018 at 2:03 pm
    Pats fan 10 years ago: LOLZ at Peyton fans! Stats are for losers! One and dones!

    Pats fan today: Brady was awesome! He lost but YARDS! STATS!

    Hilarious.

    Hilarious is right
    Brady has 5. (The most by any QB)

    And I bet you cant proved 1 comment from a pats fan saying, “he lost but yards stats”

    And last I checked , Manning is still the king of the “ one and done”


    Please. That’s all I’m hearing about everywhere – that Brady had some incredible game on Sunday and oh did you know he threw for 500 yards? Sure he lost but he was awesome! (no he wasn’t) He threw for 500 yards! Most yards evah in a Super Bowl! He isn’t to blame it’s the defense’s fault I tell ya! It was Belichick’s fault! Look at those yards! 500! More than 10 yards per completion! It was not his fault!!

    The exact same attitude Pats fans ripped Colts fans regarding Peyton Manning not all that long ago. And you know that.

    Funny how things change huh?

    Hilarious, just like I said.

  7. The narrative that Manning put up big numbers consistently in the postseason is not true. Check his losses. He threw for 300 in 3 of them. His offenses have scored more than 20 points in 2 of his 13 losses. Brady put up 31 and over 500 in that loss. Anyone blaming Brady is clueluess, a truly marvelous SB performance at age 40. Belichicks D was awful. Front 7 and #2 CB is a must add this offseason. Look for Bill to promote within or not even name true coordinators as he has in the past.

  8. Brady is much better than Favre. When you are gunslinger like him your decline is worse because he already was throwing a lot of picks in his prime. Brady could definitely fall off but hes not comparable to Favre.

  9. Flash1287 says:
    February 6, 2018 at 2:35 pm

    Braz says:
    February 6, 2018 at 2:03 pm
    Pats fan 10 years ago: LOLZ at Peyton fans! Stats are for losers! One and dones!

    Pats fan today: Brady was awesome! He lost but YARDS! STATS!

    Hilarious.

    Hilarious is right
    Brady has 5. (The most by any QB)

    And I bet you cant proved 1 comment from a pats fan saying, “he lost but yards stats”

    And last I checked , Manning is still the king of the “ one and done”


    Please. That’s all I’m hearing about everywhere – that Brady had some incredible game on Sunday and oh did you know he threw for 500 yards? Sure he lost but he was awesome! (no he wasn’t) He threw for 500 yards! Most yards evah in a Super Bowl! He isn’t to blame it’s the defense’s fault I tell ya! It was Belichick’s fault! Look at those yards! 500! More than 10 yards per completion! It was not his fault!!

    The exact same attitude Pats fans ripped Colts fans regarding Peyton Manning not all that long ago. And you know that.

    Funny how things change huh?

    Hilarious, just like I said.

    No, what “pats fans” and others said was Manning is a regular season stat machine but when it came to big games he wasn’t so great.
    All the stats but nothing to show for it.

    The difference again was Brady WON.
    Yes we know , they aren’t going to win it all every year. But the fact remains nobody has won more and played in more than Brady.

    So like I said , can you provide just won comment from a Patriots fan saying “he lost but yards and stats”

    And yes it is possible for both QBs on the field to have great games like Foles and Brady did. But only one can win.

  10. Braz says:
    February 6, 2018 at 1:55 pm
    Reminder to Pats fan:

    Brett Favre had a great season at 40, arguably MVP level. The last moment of his greatness was before Tracy Porter intercepted him in the NFC Championship game. And then at 41…The Cliff introduced himself

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    Sorry, but you can’t compare Brady and his singular obsession with training and diet to whatever Brett Fav-re was doing. He was great, but untimely interceptions went together with him like peas and carrots.

    Brady is in the middle of an n=1 experiment on how to play until 45. The cliff is coming, yes, but I think we’re a few years away yet.

  11. Braz is probably the same guy who predicted 5 years ago that Brady was done. He does it every year hoping he’s right and then one day he actually will be right, because it will, he will jump up and down yelling “see! I told ya!”

  12. kovodisc says:
    February 6, 2018 at 2:41 pm

    @BRAZ

    Brett Favre doesn’t even come close in terms of preparation and maintaining/caring for his body. Tom is more durable, stronger, and a smarter player at 40 then he was in his 20’s.

    We (logical Pats fans) are very well aware of the fact that the end is near. Anyone who claims that we think he’s playing at an elite level until he’s 45 is just crazy. With that being said, the guy just lit up a top-5 defense in the Super Bowl (!!!) and lost solely because the defense was atrocious (that’s being kind).

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    Brady is still going to be 41 in September. Lots of 41 year olds are in terrific shape and take care of themselves. That doesn’t mean they can maintain. I question how durable he is now – just wait till the first hard hit that makes him slow to get up. Watch for the injury next year that KO’s him for a game or two. It’s what happens to older players that can’t keep up with the pace anymore and can’t heal as fast.

    There’s a reason why nobody has ever maintained an elite level of performance in their 40’s in professional football. Brady is not the exception to the rule.

    As for the Super Bowl, I already documented how Brady did not play nearly as great as he’s been given credit. That underthrow to Amendola was like I was watching a Major League CF settle under the ball and make a routine catch. Easy TD if that was thrown properly. He missed a ton of makeable throws, hit on only 57% of his passes, missed a lot of his reads including the big one on the fumble which would have given him a first down, got greedy when he didn’t need to because he was locked in on his binkies. He also embarrassed himself on the drop.

    The Eagles defense wasn’t much better on Sunday than the Pats was. I bet Aaron Rodgers would have put up 50 easy.

    I’m not saying Brady sucked or he even deserves most of the blame for Sunday…but he certainly was not awesome. If you guys think a B+ game is the new standard for greatness then I think you either have homer glasses on or need to learn the game a little better than that.

  13. Braz says:
    February 6, 2018 at 1:55 pm
    Reminder to Pats fan:

    Brett Favre had a great season at 40, arguably MVP level. The last moment of his greatness was before Tracy Porter intercepted him in the NFC Championship game. And then at 41…The Cliff introduced himself.

    Tom Brady had a great season at 40, and was MVP. The last moment of his greatness at least for this year was just before he fumbled with 2 minutes left in the Super Bowl. And then at 41…. well we will find out.

    Nobody beats Father time. NOBODY.

    Enjoy what’s left Pats fan. If the AFC Least can figure things out the end is coming a lot sooner than you think for your run as an NFL heavyweight.

    ———————
    I think everybody knows that though, its like telling us that water is wet. What you are really saying is that the decline is late already and you are now that much more impatient to see it happen. Its fun to type up the story because then you can almost imagine it which helps with the angst. I totally get it and understand. Just hang tight, the day will come when it comes.

  14. Most points scored by a losing team in the Super Bowl.
    Most yards thrown by a QB
    Most TDS thrown by a losing QB
    No punts, put his team in a position to score every time they had the ball
    One very costly turnover
    Dropped a wide open pass

    Has he had better games. Yup

    Was he the reason they lost the game? Hardly.

    Any reasonable person knows it fell mainly on the defense and in my opinion the coach.

  15. the sad thing is for as bad as the d was in the game, it still all comes down to brady, if he makes the catch they maybe score something there and the fumble at the end, over 2 minutes left brady needs a touchdown to win i would take that every game, so in short all goes on the goat just didn’t get done this time

  16. No, what “pats fans” and others said was Manning is a regular season stat machine but when it came to big games he wasn’t so great.
    All the stats but nothing to show for it.
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    Guess what? Brady had all the stats on Sunday and nothing to show for it. You know as well as I do that you guys mocked Manning for piling up stats (and you do it above) and losing. And a lot of the time it was the defense that let him down. Sound familiar? You guys piled on Colts fans back in the day for saying Manning played great and used his stats as a reference. And now you’re doing exactly the same thing with Brady. Double standard if I ever saw one.

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    And yes it is possible for both QBs on the field to have great games like Foles and Brady did. But only one can win.
    ================

    Foles was the much better QB on Sunday.

  17. JokerSC says:
    February 6, 2018 at 3:09 pm

    Most points scored by a losing team in the Super Bowl.
    Most yards thrown by a QB
    Most TDS thrown by a losing QB
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    Yes it’s the stats baby! All about the stats! It was the defense’s fault!
    You guys were singing a very different tune when other people talked like this about Manning. Funny how that works.

  18. Braz says:
    February 6, 2018 at 3:03 pm

    I’m not saying Brady sucked or he even deserves most of the blame for Sunday…but he certainly was not awesome. If you guys think a B+ game is the new standard for greatness then I think you either have homer glasses on or need to learn the game a little better than that.

    ———————
    Not homer glasses, but 500+ yards, 3 tds, and 0 int is not a B+ game either. Most QBs would be thrilled with such a performance, for many that would be a career day. I think Brady did his part, its the D that owns this loss. But also since its teams not individuals that win SB I think Philly earned and deserves their victory for being the slightly better team that day.

  19. Meh, The Eagles played great and deserved the win. The Patriots offense played well, special teams and defense not so much. The Patriots usually win when all three fazes of the game are clicking. That wasn’t the case on Sunday. If folks want to lay that at the feet of Brady go right ahead, it’s a public forum. He wasn’t the problem, far from it.

  20. I think people are going to have to make up some more fake patriots fan id’s to prove this Manning/stats comparison nonsense.

  21. Relax, fellow Patriots. Bill has all the bases covered with very good men. Provided Brady and Dante Scarnecchia return, a minimum 12 – 4 season (winning the division yet again), is likely. Remember Julian comes back as well, so the team should improve.
    New England – where excellence is built into the culture.

  22. If the Pats D could make one stop…ONE stop, the game ends differently. Brady had a great day, Foles had a great day, both defenses had a pretty terrible day. Pats D slightly worse than the Eagles.
    Sorry, Brady gets 0 fault in that game.

  23. flash and tylaw need to take a break.

    The incessant whining is too much.

    Now we have uglydingo spewing about excellence being built in to the franchise.

    The delusion runs deep with the patsies.

    Bray on burros, bray on.

  24. Relax, fellow Patriots. Bill has all the bases covered with very good men. Provided Brady and Dante Scarnecchia return, a minimum 12 – 4 season (winning the division yet again), is likely. Remember Julian comes back as well, so the team should improve.
    New England – where excellence is built into the culture.
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    I hope so. Our D is not fixed by one LB coming back off injury. There is a ton that needs to be done on the D side, plus a QB, plus probably a LT, RB, and the search for that second TE if Bennett retires.

  25. Ok, just so we’re on the same page with this Brady vs Manning thing:

    Manning’s SB ratings:
    2006 vs Bears 81.6
    2009 vs Saints 88.5
    2013 vs Seahawks 73.5
    2015 vs Panthers 56.6

    Brady’s rating in his “B+” game as you put it was 115.4, would love to see how you grade out Peyton’s games listed above, especially that last win, where his rating was LESS THAN HALF of what Brady did on Sunday.

  26. uglydingo says:
    February 6, 2018 at 3:34 pm

    Relax, fellow Patriots. Bill has all the bases covered with very good men. Provided Brady and Dante Scarnecchia return, a minimum 12 – 4 season (winning the division yet again)

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    Sure, I’ll give you that. You are in the AFC Least after all, it’s not that hard to win that division year after year.

    By the way, your defense can’t tackle either. It was comical watching them bounce off any green uniform like a pinball or multiple guys being dragged everywhere by an Eagle.

    The fact that you were even in the Super Bowl and America had to witness that was a disgrace. Please get some real hardnosed players next time you get back to the Super Bowl and not a bunch of soft little kittens out there.

  27. grumpysal says:
    February 6, 2018 at 4:08 pm

    Ok, just so we’re on the same page with this Brady vs Manning thing:

    Manning’s SB ratings:
    2006 vs Bears 81.6
    2009 vs Saints 88.5
    2013 vs Seahawks 73.5
    2015 vs Panthers 56.6

    Brady’s rating in his “B+” game as you put it was 115.4, would love to see how you grade out Peyton’s games listed above, especially that last win, where his rating was LESS THAN HALF of what Brady did on Sunday.


    Stats baby! All about the stats! He lost? Oh well. STATZZZ!
    Wow! this really sounds familiar doesn’t it.

    If I were to ask Mr. Brady if he would trade his STATZZ from Sunday for a passer rating like Manning had when he won one as a Bronco… what do you think he’d say?

  28. majormalphunktion says:
    February 6, 2018 at 3:47 pm

    If the Pats D could make one stop…ONE stop, the game ends differently. Brady had a great day, Foles had a great day, both defenses had a pretty terrible day. Pats D slightly worse than the Eagles.
    Sorry, Brady gets 0 fault in that game.

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    #Denial

  29. mullman76 says:
    February 6, 2018 at 3:47 pm
    flash and tylaw need to take a break.

    The incessant whining is too much.

    Now we have uglydingo spewing about excellence being built in to the franchise.

    The delusion runs deep with the patsies.

    Bray on burros, bray on.

    Meanwhile in Oakland I mean Los Vegas the Raiders will still suck

  30. There’s no cheating – grow up. Your team loses to them because they’re not as good and not as well coached. Stop trying so hard to put the band aid over your boo boo.

  31. Nofoolnodrool says:
    February 6, 2018 at 4:08 pm

    New England – where arrogance and cheating iare built into the culture……now that is far more accurate.
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    Pittsburgh – where ignorance and stupidity are built into the fanbase……now that is completely true.

  32. terripet says:
    February 6, 2018 at 4:34 pm
    Brady 1-5 against the manning brothers last 6 playoff games. Pathetic

    But…Brady has won more SB than both combined

  33. Braz says:
    February 6, 2018 at 4:19 pm

    Sure, I’ll give you that. You are in the AFC Least after all, it’s not that hard to win that division year after year.

    By the way, your defense can’t tackle either. It was comical watching them bounce off any green uniform like a pinball or multiple guys being dragged everywhere by an Eagle.

    The fact that you were even in the Super Bowl and America had to witness that was a disgrace. Please get some real hardnosed players next time you get back to the Super Bowl and not a bunch of soft little kittens out there.

    =============================================================

    Classic hater talk there, pulling out the “AFC Least” garbage, showing how uneducated you are. Look at the records of the AFC East teams outside their divisions, you’ll see the AFC East is first or second since Brady came in the league.

    I’m curious how well your team tackled on Sunday?

  34. mmack66 says:
    February 6, 2018 at 4:35 pm
    Nofoolnodrool says:
    February 6, 2018 at 4:08 pm

    New England – where arrogance and cheating iare built into the culture……now that is far more accurate.
    ———————–

    Pittsburgh – where ignorance and stupidity are built into the fanbase……now that is completely true.

    3 2

    Suck it up buttercup and take your loss like a man and save your lame comebacks for your grandma.

  35. Classic hater talk there, pulling out the “AFC Least”

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    Ah there’s that new Pat fan buzzword “hater”. Yes if I don’t wave the Tommy or Patriot pom poms or smooch their backsides then I’m a “hater”. LOL.

    I really can’t take anything Pat fan says seriously when they do that. Let me know when Pat fan is ready to talk seriously about football and I’ll happily oblige. In the meantime, knock it off with the namecalling especially that one.

    Also your division stinks for reasons already stated. Not my fault you don’t like it.

  36. Braz says:
    February 6, 2018 at 5:32 pm

    Ah there’s that new Pat fan buzzword “hater”. Yes if I don’t wave the Tommy or Patriot pom poms or smooch their backsides then I’m a “hater”. LOL.

    I really can’t take anything Pat fan says seriously when they do that. Let me know when Pat fan is ready to talk seriously about football and I’ll happily oblige. In the meantime, knock it off with the namecalling especially that one.

    Also your division stinks for reasons already stated. Not my fault you don’t like it.
    ======================================================

    OK, how about instead of “hater” I just call you immature? AFC Least is the name used by the juveniles posting here, so it fits better I guess. Maybe ignorant? You mention the division stinks “for reasons already stated” yet no where on this page have you discussed anything other than the Pats. I can’t take anyone seriously who is just going to make up things they like and ignore facts like extra-divisional records, etc.

  37. At least New England fans get some entertainment out of this loss. As we congratulate the fans of the Eagles for rooting their team on to victory we get to laugh at the fans of the other teams riding the Eagles coat tails. How utterly pathetic that is.

  38. BRAZ….

    You don’t need to tell me Brady’s age. You don’t need to tell me that players decline past 40. You don’t need to tell me players become less durable as they age. That’s all common sense.

    Fact of the matter is the ONLY thing that’s knocked Brady out of a game IN HIS ENTIRE CAREER was an ACL tear and a suspension for some complete and utter BS (everyone knows it and if they contest it, they lack any common sense).

    Anyone who actually watches Brady play week in and week out, and pays attention to various local writers/articles, etc. knows that he is one of the most body-conscious athletes in the world. Brady himself says his recovery from the weekly bumps/bruises, and his durability, are all better now than when he was in his 20’s and 30’s. I believe him.

    And give it a rest with the “he didn’t have a good super bowl”. Such a ridiculous statement. No QB is going to hit every pass and will ALWAYS make mistakes. 5 of those incomplete passes came on the final drive of the game and he STILL had a QBR of 115+…..SO AVERAGE lol.

  39. Correction – forgot he got knocked out of the 2nd half of the 01 AFCCG with a bum ankle. So he missed 1/2 of a game due to an ankle injury, and a season due to a torn ACL.

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