Bill Belichick will open the knowledge vault for Josh McDaniels

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The excellent ESPN documentary dubbed The Two Bills includes a moment in which Patriots coach Bill Belichick credits his former mentor, Bill Parcells, with teaching Belichick aspects of the head-coaching job that previously hadn’t been relevant to Belichick’s role as an assistant coach. Belichick apparently will be doing the same for Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels.

Mike Reiss of ESPN, via WEEI.com, reports that Belichick has promised to open the knowledge vault for McDaniels.

“Bill Belichick said to him, ‘I want you to be by my side. I am going to open my world to you,'” Reiss said. “‘Show you how I view roster building, how I look at financials and the salary cap.’ To McDaniels, who is 41 years old, the chance to be with Belichick, arguably the greatest coach of all-time, 65 years old, to have that opportunity was viewed as to be extremely valuable to him.”

The fact that Belichick hadn’t shared that information with McDaniels suggests that maybe he wasn’t ready to be a head coach again. (Nine years ago, he definitely wasn’t ready to be the head coach of the Broncos.) After McDaniels gets a master class from the Patriot Way sensei, McDaniels will be ready.

And given that he has left the Colts at the altar, the only place where he’ll likely be a head coach is the place where he has decided, yet again, to stay.

120 responses to “Bill Belichick will open the knowledge vault for Josh McDaniels

  1. Let’s be honest here…..Billy got lucky with a 6th round pick. Other than that he’s just another coach who was fired by the Brown’s.

  2. I know a lot of people think that MD did a bad thing, but if you were in his position, and Kraft and Belechik came to you, presumably with a big raise and a promise that you would be the next coach of a much better organization, most of us would take it. You also don’t have to move and uproot your family, including kids going to a new school… very enticing.

  3. with in 3-5 years the cheaters will hit rock bottom then when Mcdaniels is fired he will end up in college football cause his career ended last night

  4. Good. However, the Kraft’s better stay out from this point going forward.

    They got McDaniels to learn and succeed from the greatest Coacch/GM of all-time. They got their boy Brady until 45 years of age.

    But when they draft another QB..Brady and Kraft kicks rocks when BB says so.

    Bob and Jonathan, don’t ruin the last few years of BB. Don’t turn into Jerry Jones. Know what makes you great…stay the hell out of Belichick’s way.

  5. Ah, all those coaching failures from the Belichick tree make sense now. All the good stuff was in the vault. Now, bend the knee……

  6. Nothing wrong with leaving something at the altar, especially if its not the right fit.
    If you met a juicy new blonde who intrigued you, had a lot of money and wanted you to marry. Then your ex youve known/been with for 15 years reconciles. Who cares if the blondes family is ‘upset’

    Besides would you rather have the 1st candidate spot for succeeding BB or start at a new program with an injured QB and, well… Irsay. You do You Josh.

  7. That’s cute. But unless he’s definitely taking over for Belichick when he steps down, it’ll be totally useless.

    Dude has a burn notice in the NFL for the rest of his life.

  8. The fact that Belichick hadn’t shared that information with McDaniels suggests that Belichick is a jerk. The guy’s been your offensive coordinator for eight years and you haven’t discussed your views on roster building or the salary cap as it pertains to roster building? That story is either bogus or else Belichick is as weirdly evasive with his own people as he is with the media.

  9. In the future no one will care about this besides the Colts. If McDaniels coaching abilities make him a good candidate than teams will be interested. Teams forget quickly. You really think there wouldn’t be teams interested in Nick Saban if he announced he wants to return to the NFL?

  10. vaphinfan says:
    February 7, 2018 at 8:25 pm
    Let’s be honest here…..Billy got lucky with a 6th round pick. Other than that he’s just another coach who was fired by the Brown’s.

    ————
    You guys need to get your story straight….you also claim Brady is a system QB and that any High School QB could have success with BB…

  11. Wow, Looks like the Pats dynasty is set for the next 25 years. By the way, the secret to opening the Vault is Peach Schnapps.

  12. Bill: “Step 1 – find the greatest QB on earth in the 6th round of the draft…”
    Josh (later in the day): “Hello, Colts? Yeah, about the offer you made me…”

  13. .
    @terripet

    “with in 3-5 years the cheaters will hit rock bottom then when Mcdaniels is fired he will end up in college football cause his career ended last night”

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    Forever the optimist! Patriots fans are delighted to see that you are predicting another 3-5 years of success.
    .

  14. This sounds like a PR cover story to make this sound more palatable. If this was truly the case, there was no reason for the Patriots to wait until after the Superbowl.

    The story as related is a 2 minute conversation that could’ve happened anytime during the season or playoffs.

    It also, unintentionally, paints a picture that until the Pats lost in the playoffs, McDaniels wasn’t a priority and was free to leave, that Bill had no interest in mentoring McDaniels over the last several years and he was disposable.

  15. Terrible week for the Patriots. First, they get trounced by a backup QB in the Super Bowl, then, their coaching staff and owner reveal their truly ugly side by seducing their weak and indecisive offensive coordinator to remain with the team, just so they can stick it to the Colts for deflate-gate. The bar just keeping going lower and lower with this classless organization.

  16. terripet says:
    February 7, 2018 at 8:30 pm
    with in 3-5 years the cheaters will hit rock bottom then when Mcdaniels is fired he will end up in college football cause his career ended last night

    ____________________________________

    But today and tomorrow and for a loooooong time, your Colts will still suck. Looks like another “Suck for Luck” campaign is coming Indy’s way.

  17. Ridiculous…

    McDaniels has been there for well over a decade and hasn’t learned this information. They spend countless hours together and they haven’t broached these topics.

  18. I’m guessing they last minute gave McDaniels an actual timeline in which Belichick will retire and I’m guessing it is within a two year time frame. That is what brought McDaniels back to the Pats. He will be groomed for two seasons to take over at the end of the 2019 season. Presumeably Brady will also retire then as well, with Belichick. So don’t be surprised to see the Pats go after a top-tier QB in the draft within the next two drafts. Mark my words.

  19. Josh’s first super bowl victory as head coach won’t shut the haters up, that’s for sure.

    Enjoying watching the colts implode is awesome. They deserve every bad thing happening to them.

  20. Valphin they won double digit games without that 6th round pick. Also what is the excuse for jimmy? He saw that talent.

    Dislike the treatment that the pats received in a handful of games this season but these guys to deserve credit or this guy for this articles sake.

  21. I thought Josh learned chapter 10, “How to film another teams walk through practice, this is not considered cheating !” Sure, he remembers that lesson from Belchick, it goes like this “deny it, deny it, deny…play the I didn’t know anything”. Only problem for Josh is that it led to him being fired by the Broncos.

  22. Bill has rattled the cage, traded Jimmy G for nothing, and by all appearances sent a direct fu to the owner and qb. This drama is amazing. Power struggle at the max. Imagine the owners view of the ripple effect, BB wanted to transition to Jimmy G, owner and QB say no…. ok loose the last game where you have the best offensive performance ever in any game….defense let you down….bench the starting CB and make the defensive coordinator look bad…he took the job in Detroit…..meanwhile show off McDaniels offense…stay here or I will ruin you…Foles will be traded to the pats or come in free agency the next year…..BB had an exit reward plan for the pats, his legacy will remain and he will win with Foles after Brady.

  23. I wonder what part of the jedi training will involve teaching McDaniels the secrets to benching your best corner an hour before the super bowl.

  24. As a teacher I can tell you, knowledge does not transfer that easily. Who is to say that McDaniels can just take Belichick’s words of wisdom and transfer that into a successful head coaching career. There are tons of situations you can’t account for that you need to react to. You either have the genius or you don’t. Belichick does…but does Josh McDaniels? There are plenty of Bill Walsh and Bill Belichick disciples who have tried and failed.

  25. Funny how certain coaches of a particular skin color need a Rooney Rule just to get a mock interview for a head coaching job. But a proven mediocre coach of another skin color is so confident he’ll be offered another actual head coaching job, he can just turn this one down.

  26. It’s going to end up like that Geraldo Rivera Al Capone’s vault special.

    When they open the door, there will be a note that says

    1) get lucky and draft an ageless HOF QB in the 6th round.
    2) cheat.

  27. That much better organization will lack IMO the greatest, but inarguably a top 2 all time QB and probably the greatest coach ever. Josh saw Tebow as a top tier QB worthy of a 1st rd pick. I wouldn’t put much faith in what the future holds there. Maybe he has learned or will but with his level of arrogance, it’s doubtful

  28. In 2001 the Patriots got a DNA sample from Tom Brady and began their quest to clone him. They’ve been growing this clone in an incubator for the past 16 years. He should be full grown and ready to go when Brady retires at 45. That’s also when Belichick will step down and hand the keys to Josh McDaniels.

  29. I could care less about the Colts.
    I’m sure the Patriots feel the same way.
    The rivalry never went away and to bad for Indy, losing MaCDanirls couldn’t Have happened to a more pathetic franchise.

  30. whybotherifeverythinggetscensored says:
    February 7, 2018 at 8:27 pm
    I know a lot of people think that MD did a bad thing, but if you were in his position, and Kraft and Belechik came to you, presumably with a big raise and a promise that you would be the next coach of a much better organization, most of us would take it. You also don’t have to move and uproot your family, including kids going to a new school… very enticing

    ////////////////////

    If that’s what happened, yes enticing. But if you were not there, which you weren’t, then you’re making this all up. Typical pat fan.

  31. Secret #1)

    Do not draft Tim Tebow in the 1st round.

    I was so looking forward to JM taking a second dump as a head coach. Now I have to wait until BB & TB hang ’em up before seeing another epic dumpster fire.

  32. It’s obvious a deal was made at the 11th hour. Sometimes it’s right to stay in the family business, especially if that was always the end goal, then to go off on your own because of impatience or whatever drives one to at least contemplate to move on.

    I reneged on a Div 1 baseball scholarship when I found out they were year to year. I walked on to a school in Florida and ended up in the College World Series. In the end, I won big time. I felt bad at first but in this world you take care of #1 without hurting anyone else. Therein lies the issue with McDaniels. He hurt some assistant coaches big time. That’s why Kraft and Co. should have stepped in way earlier than the 11th hour. They’re all selfish and to blame.

  33. People clobbering McDanials for backing out on the Colts.
    Didn’t BB quit the Jets after a day or two?

    Guess he learned at least one lesson.

  34. This whole he’ll never be able to get a head job again narrative thats been forming is pretty naive thinking. The way the league has been trending no one is going to get tired of those considered offensive geniuses.
    Even if he doesn’t take over for Belichick next year, 2 years from now, 3, teams will be interested in him.
    In the interviews when they bring up the Colts all he’ll have to say is ‘i was given the opportunity to have the best coach in history open his vault for me, so I couldn’t turn it down. Here’s what I learned in those X years…’

  35. The Colts are playing dumb and people are eating it up like candy.

    The Colts knew that Josh was a Patriots employee until the moment he resigned from the Pats. They should have known the the Patriots would push hard to protect their assets and retain Josh,and they should have know Josh was having cold feet (PFT reported this, on Saturday IIRC).

    Lots of coaches in all sports and at all levels have had last-second concerns and have backed out of deals.

    Did I expect it? No. Should the Colts have considered that it was possible? Yes.

    It was not even unethical. The Patriots made counter-proposals to retain their own employee, within 48 hours of when he was first legally allowed to make a binding decision. A Patriots employee chose the deal best for his future.

    He will be the King’s hand, the man at the side of the GOAT coach.

    This is not complicated, as long as you are not a dullard.

  36. For the record, I have no problem with what McDaniels did. The Patriots made a last second push to keep him and it worked. This is America, we believe in self-determination. If he hadn’t signed a contract, he was free to do what he wanted.

    But I find the idea that part of that push was a promise from Bill to teach Josh all of his inner coaching secrets. Does this mean that for the previous 10 years that they worked together, Bill wasn’t trying to make Josh a better coach? Sounds fishy.

    I think McDaniels is staying because he got more money and a promise that he is next in line when BB leaves. Period.

  37. If the GOAT of all head coaches told me that I could pick his brain, I got a substantial raise to go with it,and could remain where I’m comfortable,I would pounce on it. However,I would not have strung the Colts and the other hired coaches along before I did so. That was classless. McDaniels will never live this one down,but I don’t think that he cares.

  38. charliecharger says:
    February 7, 2018 at 8:55 pm

    The secret is get a QB like Tom Brady. Otherwise you’re just another coach waiting to get fired.

    _____________________________

    I doubt that we will see another QB like Brady in this lifetime.

  39. McDaniels already knows the taping cheating practice. He got caught doing it in Denver. That’s just the tip of the cheating iceberg in NE though. The things he’ll learn from the dark lord will probably make his skin crawl. This franchise makes Dead Al Davis look like a saint.

  40. The fact is this could mean the Patriots get their run to extend long after Belichick retires. All the comments here predicting otherwise just sound like a bunch of people trying to convince themselves. I see the nervousness in them.

  41. If everybody shared all of their business knowledge with everybody then everybody would be rich..name me one GM that shares and or teaches his headcoach or other coaches the intricacies of football operations.

  42. Yea, I think I would brush off Irsay and stay with Kraft. And I know Brady will play at least one, if not three, more seasons. Maybe Luck is damaged goods and McDaniels knows that Brisset has a low ceiling. None of this annoys me; but I am grieved, as a Browns fan, that BB traded Garoppolo to SanFran. Yet I wonder why BB traded him at all.

  43. vaphinfan says:
    February 7, 2018 at 8:25 pm
    Let’s be honest here…..Billy got lucky with a 6th round pick. Other than that he’s just another coach who was fired by the Brown’s.

    _________________________________________

    Detractors need to make up their minds. Belichick’s an average coach? C’mon. An average coach to a ‘system QB’ right?

  44. vaphinfan says:
    February 7, 2018 at 8:25 pm
    Let’s be honest here…..Billy got lucky with a 6th round pick. Other than that he’s just another coach who was fired by the Brown’s.

    407 391 Rate This
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    To be fair, Belichick was the last coach to lead the Browns to the playoffs and win a playoff game for them. If that’s not miraculous, I don’t know what is.

  45. Gonna teach him where to place the cameras and what janitors to pay off for the opposing teams playbooks

  46. I’m pretty sure Belichick already opened his brain vault for this guy, didn’t he? Isn’t Belichick an amateur Benedict Arnold historian?

  47. vaphinfan says:
    February 7, 2018 at 8:25 pm
    Let’s be honest here…..Billy got lucky with a 6th round pick. Other than that he’s just another coach who was fired by the Brown’s.

    ————-

    That, and let’s bet honest here as well, has there been an easier division than the AFCE apart from NE, … and I’m a VA Bills fan.

    Here’s a list of the starting QBs on the Bills, Jets, & Phins during the Brady era:

    Taylor, Orton, Manuel, Fitzpatrick, Edwards, Losman, Holcomb, Bledsoe, Van Pelt
    McCown, Fitzpatrick, Smith (Geno), Sanchez, Favre (washed up), Pennington, Bollinger, Testeverde (washed up)
    Cutler, Tannehill, Moore, Henne, Pennington, Lemon, Harrington, Frerotte, Feeley, Fiedler

    Not a ringer among them. When the best is Pennington then you’re very lucky to have been in a division begging to hand you 6 wins every season while simultaneously giving you 6 of 16 scrimmage games.

  48. vaphinfan says:
    February 7, 2018 at 8:25 pm
    Let’s be honest here…..Billy got lucky with a 6th round pick. Other than that he’s just another coach who was fired by the Brown’s.

    ——————

    Maybe there was some Luck there, but as B.B. proved this year, you can’t win the SB without defense. Either great defense or at least great defensive plays have been the hallmark of all 5 Super Bowl wins.

  49. vaphinfan says:
    February 7, 2018 at 8:25 pm

    Let’s be honest here…..Billy got lucky with a 6th round pick. Other than that he’s just another coach who was fired by the Brown’s
    ,,,,,
    Lets be honest here, you think Hue Jackson is a better coach becasue the Browns didnt fire him huh???

  50. flaccodelic said:”

    The fact that Belichick hadn’t shared that information with McDaniels suggests that Belichick is a jerk. The guy’s been your offensive coordinator for eight years and you haven’t discussed your views on roster building or the salary cap as it pertains to roster building? That story is either bogus or else Belichick is as weirdly evasive with his own people as he is with the media.”

    —-

    I think the story is not only bogus, but that it would be absolutely idiotic for them to possibly think that anyone would believe it, accept for the die hard Patriot Kool-Aid drinking fan, that buys into everything the Patriots’ say and/or do.

    I believe that report was just thrown out there to justify why Josh didn’t have the guts to fulfill his “reported” commitment that he was going to take the Colts HC job.

    I don’t think there is any question that Josh was promised to be the next HC of the Patriots, even if it was just a wink, wink, nudge, nudge, just between management thing.

    When he eventually gets the HC gig, IMO there is no doubt that he will fail, because as smart as he may be from a football state of mind, IMO he comes off as an incredibly immature petulant child.

  51. Belichick: “Has anyone gotten to you yet?”

    McDaniels: “What?”

    Belichick: “I said….has anyone gotten to you yet.”

    “I could be a friend to you.”

  52. Belichick changed Josh McDaniels life. Josh Mac should feel somewhat in debt to him. If Belichick wants him to say then McDaniels should stay.

    I think Josh McDaniels had every intention to go to Indy, but the SuperBowl loss changed things. The Patriots have a new sense of urgency to go on another super bowl run – full throttle.

    The 49ers have been down this road with Josh McDaniels twice, and he has withdrawn from consideration and handled the situation a lot better than he handled the Colts situation. The man is just a Patriot and doesn’t want to leave the nest.

    There comes a time in man’s life when he will be called to come out of his comfort zone and venture on to bigger things… Some will heed that “call to adventure” and achieve greatness, and others will stay with the status quo and remain average..Does this apply to Josh Mcdaniles? Who knows.

  53. From what I understand Belichick is an amateur Benedict Arnold historian and has already shared that knowledge with McDaniels.

  54. The Patriots are 5-5 in Super Bowls. In the Belichick era they are 5-3. So if dumbo Pete runs beast mode and dumbo Dan just runs the ball and kicks the field goal, the GOAT is 3-5 in Super Bowls. Add in that lucky 6th round pick that worked out so well, and you have the definition of “genius”.

  55. Open the vault to show what exactly….

    How to get lucky by drafting a HOFer in the 6th round?

    How to manipulated the cap by convincing said HOFer to take less money than market value (and make up the difference by offering free rent on the TB12 institute at the Kraft owned Patriot Place)?

    How to be bailed out of years of poor drafting by said HOFer?

    How to be CAUGHT CHEATING TWICE?

    Hopefully after this last Super Bowl Pats fan’s eyes are finally open to the fact that Bill is riding Tom’s coattails.

  56. To the assistant coaches jobs promised by Josh and the uprooting and plans their families made to follow him to Indy… No big deal for Josh I’m sure.

  57. Hmmmm. They will win another before Brady/Belly retire. I just need to know when $$$$$$. lol

  58. I think Josh woke up and realized he was walking into a mess with the Colts and would be fired in two years anyways. Even Belichick couldn’t turn that Colts roster around.

  59. “Let’s be honest here…..Billy got lucky with a 6th round pick. Other than that he’s just another coach who was fired by the Brown’s”

    Let’s be honest here. You hate the Pats and Belichick so much you couldn’t make a fair and objective statement about them if you were paid $1000 to do so.

  60. This organization has always been classless… Billy did the same thing to the Jets. Then you have the cheating. MD could have inhereted a QB with HUGE upside but would rather hold on to Billy’s skirt and a 41 year old QB that just lost the Super Bowl to a backup QB.. Factory of idiots.

  61. “The fact that Belichick hadn’t shared that information with McDaniels suggests that Belichick is a jerk. The guy’s been your offensive coordinator for eight years and you haven’t discussed your views on roster building or the salary cap as it pertains to roster building? ”

    NFL is a cutthroat business. Coordinators leave as Josh has done in the past. Why would anyone whose the best at what they do teach their inner secrets to people that will often become your competition instead of working for you. Always always always keep things up your sleeve that are your techniques and no one else’s

  62. “I think Josh woke up and realized he was walking into a mess with the Colts and would be fired in two years anyways.”

    The word is that he was cleaning out his office at Gillette when Bob Kraft and Belichick cornered him and put the full court press on him to stay.

  63. McDaniels has already failed once as a head coach and this Colts’ debacle suggests he’s still uncertain and immature which doesn’t bode well. Even if BB opens up this vault of knowledge (which apparently has been closed to McDaniels until now despite him being an OC for years?) how much will McD be able to implement? BB’s proteges have done about as well as Phil Jackson’s have in the NBA.

  64. THIS is the most important aspect of this story and it illustrates and highlights the dysfunctionality, egotism (and paranoia) of Belicheat. It’s incredible to think that Belicheat hasn’t shared this with his O & D Coordinators. Incredible!

    Well said flaccodelic…
    flaccodelic says: The fact that Belichick hadn’t shared that information with McDaniels suggests that Belichick is a jerk. The guy’s been your offensive coordinator for eight years and you haven’t discussed your views on roster building or the salary cap as it pertains to roster building? That story is either bogus or else Belichick is as weirdly evasive with his own people as he is with the media.

  65. whybotherifeverythinggetscensored says:
    February 7, 2018 at 8:27 pm
    I know a lot of people think that MD did a bad thing, but if you were in his position, and Kraft and Belechik came to you, presumably with a big raise and a promise that you would be the next coach of a much better organization, most of us would take it. You also don’t have to move and uproot your family, including kids going to a new school… very enticing

    ———–

    why do you believe anyone promised McDaniels anything of the kind? He probably just got a good look at the MRI of Andrew Luck’s shoulder and realized they had over $25M a year tied up in a guy that would never take another snap in the NFL.

  66. Most of these commenters obviously didn’t read the article. According to it, Belichick isn’t talking about game strategy secrets. Instead, he’s planning to: “‘Show you how I view roster building, how I look at financials and the salary cap.’” Those are things that an OC wouldn’t necessarily be involved in, but they’re invaluable for a head coach, so I’m not surprised McDaniels would see that learning those things while an OC would be great training for his next opportunity as HC. (And yes, I firmly believe he will have more opportunities, and not just in NE, because NFL history shows that.)

    One of BB’s vaunted strengths is the way he controls costs and puts together personnel with a view to the current and future salary cap effects. That’s not an easy task, as anybody knows who reads about what some guy’s contract says versus what the effect is on the cap. There are a lot of moving parts to building a team for now and the future. Managing the cap, timing of contracts, coordinating draft and free agency plays. These are all things that BB knows a lot about and McDaniels could benefit from learning. I’m not surprised that McDaniels was enticed by the idea of learning this in a place where he’s comfortable and his family is happy.

    Contrast that offer with the idea of uprooting his family and moving to a new city, learning all that roster stuff from scratch while under pressure to turn the franchise around right away. I’m sure he remembers what it was like to lose his old HC job, disrupt his family and start over. I bet he could envision the possibility of being out of Indianapolis in two years, given how short a time frame coaches are given these days, and having to move to yet another new city, probably for assistant money or college money. He made the right move for himself and his family. The Colts shouldn’t have hired assistants before they had the head coach signed.

  67. Have we already forgotten the 11-5 season with Matt Cassel at QB?

    Having Brady allows them to be transcendently dominant. But anyone who thinks they can’t be competitive, even division-winning, without him hasn’t paid attention to how well this system works and how well it navigates changes.

  68. “Bill Belichick said to him, ‘I want you to be by my side. I am going to open my world to you,’”

    Right. Can you imagine BB talking to *anyone* like this? Please…

    Mike Reiss

  69. What he has learned nothing in his time with Bill now the mighty one will give out all his wisdom, oh that soap opera called Pattsville.

  70. This is not that unusual at all. It is common practice in all sorts of organizations to have high level managers be very good at certain aspects of the organization, but not have much (if any) knowledge or involvement in how to run the overall enterprise. Moreover, if you want managers to concentrate on certain sections of the operation that they are responsible for, you don’t unfocus them by having them involved in the other areas. It’s reflected in the often heard mantra “Do your job” which also means don’t try to do someone else’s.
    Now, McDaniels is going to be exposed to those other areas that a head coach must be proficient in. Will he be able to learn all those things and be able to use them as well as a Bill Belichik? Only time will tell.

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