Jeff Fisher’s Rams were a hotbed of quarterback talent

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Nick Foles is the Super Bowl MVP, and he’s the NFL’s all-time leader in passer rating in the postseason.

Case Keenum led the Vikings to the NFC Championship Game, where he lost to Foles’ Eagles.

Jared Goff is one of the NFL’s best young quarterbacks, a 23-year-old Pro Bowler.

What do those three quarterbacks have in common? They were the three quarterbacks who started for the Rams in 2015 and 2016.

Any coach would kill to have that kind of talent at quarterback, and yet Jeff Fisher’s Rams put together an ugly offense with those three at the helm.

In 2015 the Rams went 7-9 and finished dead last in in the NFL in both passing yards and total yards.

In 2016 the Rams went 4-12, again finished dead last in the NFL in total yards, and finished 31st in passing yards.

When Fisher was fired late in 2016, there was some talk that his failure with the Rams was all a result of never having a good quarterback. But that’s not quite right. Fisher had three good quarterbacks. The problem was that Fisher, even with three good quarterbacks, couldn’t put together a good offense.

42 responses to “Jeff Fisher’s Rams were a hotbed of quarterback talent

  1. Makes you wonder how good Steve McNair could have been if it wasn’t for Fisher. His nickname in college was Air McNair but that never translated to the NFL, now we probably know why. McNair was good but was never considered a great passer in the NFL. How much of that was Fisher’s fault?

  2. “Nick Foles is the Super Bowl MVP, and he’s the NFL’s all-time leader in passer rating in the postseason.”

    Actually, you need 150 passing attempts to qualify for the passer rating record… he needs 11 more post-season passing attempts to qualify.

  3. In 22 seasons as a head coach, Fisher teams were in the top ten in yards 3x and top ten in points 2x. When Pederson talks about how being conservative will get you 8-8, we present to you exhibit A. Jeff Fisher.

    The guy can’t coach. A quarter century body of work proves it.

    It’s the talent alright, Jeff. The coaching talent. Or lack of it.

  4. dirtdawg53 says:
    February 7, 2018 at 6:27 am
    In 22 seasons as a head coach, Fisher teams were in the top ten in yards 3x and top ten in points 2x. When Pederson talks about how being conservative will get you 8-8, we present to you exhibit A. Jeff Fisher.

    The guy can’t coach. A quarter century body of work proves it.

    It’s the talent alright, Jeff. The coaching talent. Or lack of it.
    = = = = = = = = = = = =

    And I don’t have time to look it up, but I’m guessing all those top stats while when he was running Eddie George into the ground for 5 years.

  5. Yes Jeff it may have been, but luckily you couldn’t capitalize on it just like you could never capitalize on winning……………..EVER !!! Enjoy retirement Mr. 500 !

  6. Whatever. Keenums pop gun arm will always limit what he can do. Bradford was always injured. Foles is too erratic to make any kind of long term commitment. And no one knows how good Goff really is, Gurley did the heavy lifting on offense.

  7. Dam was I happy when the Titans finally wised up and parted ways. Only problem was they didn’t wise up enough and hired his deciples. For good or bad, we finally have something different with Vrabel.

  8. “Nick Foles is the Super Bowl MVP, and he’s the NFL’s all-time leader in passer rating in the postseason.”

    Actually, you need 150 passing attempts to qualify for the passer rating record… he needs 11 more post-season passing attempts to qualify.

    Yes, but if he throws 11 incompletions his passer rating would be 105 so it’s sort of accurate….

  9. .
    This guy hoodwinked the media for years. They equated longevity with competence Writers like Peter King, who shares an agent with Fisher, constantly wrote lilac scented puff pieces about him to cover up the stench of his putrid performance.
    .

  10. To be fair, the offensive line for Rams was atrocious. Lets not pretend there was even a semblance of WR’s there. That said I still I wouldn’t want Fisher as a coach.

  11. OR, this speaks to how the NFL is a TEAM game, and these (at least at the time) mediocre QBs went from having terrible support to GREAT support. Goff is easy – there is a reason he was the #1 overall pick, and he struggled a ton in the same year that the Ram OL made even Todd Gurley look mediocre. The Rams also had the BEST starting field position in the NFL this year and a very easy schedule, so Goff still has work to do. Keenum was underrated, but he was on the team with the #1 defense in both yards AND points allowed, plus good skill position players. He is a game manager, an ideal backup QB but not a guy who elevates an offense (so, not “good). Now he’s overrated. As for Foles, he spent the postseason standing tall behind an OL that played great and faced little to no pass rush. Even in spite of that, his ball placement was pretty awful, but he had so much time he was able to wait for guys to get VERY wide open (like Dak Prescott in 2016). He’s a PROVEN backup who is talented enough to do well when handed ideal circumstances.

  12. “Nick Foles is the Super Bowl MVP, and he’s the NFL’s all-time leader in passer rating in the postseason.”

    And Foles has more post season wins in the last 20 years than the Cowboys or the Redskins

  13. “Yes, but if he throws 11 incompletions his passer rating would be 105 so it’s sort of accurate….”

    And if even one of those incompletions is an interception?

    Yeah… they have the minimums for a reason, and no matter how close he is to the minimum, he’s still not there yet.

  14. Blame it on Rob Boras!
    Fisher is a good coach. He is a defensive guy and for some reason ignored the offense with the Rams. Same thing with John Fox – he ignored the offense in Chicago with not ready to be OCs.
    I believe the only OC that Fisher had that was qualified was Brian Schottenheimer, who he brought in to coach Bradford. They were .500 but Bradford was always injured and no running game. The wheels fell off after Schottenheimer left as far as the passing game. If Schottenheimer had Todd Gurley, Fisher would still be coaching. The guy that replaced Schottenheimer, Rob Boras, doubled as OC/QB coach. He’s now the TEs coach in BUffalo.
    Fisher had Mike Heimerdinger for a long time in Tennessee. They won when they he above average OC.
    Rex Ryan won in NY with Brian Schottenheimer and rookie QB Mark Sanchez. In Ryan’s 3rd year he put the clamps on Schottenheimer (just run the ball but let their leading rusher go!) and he left/not re-signed and then it went downhill with Tony Sparano and Marty Mornhinweg 2 teribble OCs. Mornheinweg has Joe Flacco on a 2 year downward spiral.

  15. My brother and I talk about this all the time (not just Fisher, who obviously doesn’t know how to hire offensive coaches or manage his staff) but coaching in general. How many great players were seen as mediocre, or even busts, because the coaching sucked? It’s amazing to think of all the wasted talent because of Fisher-level incompetence in the coaching ranks. And yet, all the NFL does is recycle bad coaching. Of course, I don’t know where they’d find “new/fresh” coaching. It’s not like you can just grab anyone off the street, so they’re obviously picking from what’s available. But it’s sad to think of all the lost talent out there because of coaching.

    I’m from Denver, so we’ve had the Dan Reeves/Elway debate ad naseum. Reeves was a good enough coach to break your heart. How good would Elway have been without Reeves dragging him down?

    And now, if Elway gets Cousins or Foles or one of the (potentially) good QBs in the draft, do we have the coaches who can do anything with them? Many of us believe our coaching staff is woefully ill-prepared and overwhelmed (see last season and the Senior Bowl)–which, of course, also falls on Elway. But I digress.

  16. The easiest conclusion is that Jeff Fisher is a terrible head football coach. The saddest part of that is that the Rams hired him after the Titans dumped him so that is on the Ram’s front office.

  17. Coaching matters?

    And here I thought all you needed was that Franchise QB….
    I mean that’s the line we’ve been fed for so long anyway.

  18. LOL!!!

    Fisher is horrendous. He’s one of those older regime coaches who doesn’t know the game has passed him by. He spent years and years on that Competition Committee taking all his time with that, just like Tomlin and Harbaugh now as cheaters behind the scenes.

  19. Fisher also drafted Sam Bradford out of college. Bradford did not do much when he was with the Rams either. It is all Fisher’s fault. He cannot run an offense.

  20. Yet Fisher said he deserves credit for creating the current Rams team that made the playoffs and that he deserves another shot at coaching. Why? I used to like Jeff Fisher but after his latest stint with the Rams I don’t believe he’s a very good coach. I get the feeling every NFL team feels the same way. I can’t see him getting another head coaching job. Why hire a retread when you can take a chance on a young coach like the Rams and Eagles did.

  21. A real fan of the game recognizes how much time and development those young men had between then and now. You saw what they did then. You didn’t advocate for them then, so don’t think you deserve credit or recognition for recognizing the talent now.

  22. I remember when Fischer & the Titans locked McNair out of their facilities. Didn’t they black ball Vince Young also?

  23. You are all overlooking the fact that this team was actively avoiding winning from the minute Kroenke bought the team from Georgia’s kids. It’s the reason that Ahole financed Georgia’s way out of LA. Moving back was ALWAYS the plan. Fisher was hired to move this team not win football games. This is actual reality, everything else is BS.

  24. gridironczar says:
    February 7, 2018 at 8:30 am

    Fisher is a good coach.
    ——————-

    No, he isn’t. Good coaches aren’t chasing the record for the most losses by a head coach in the NFL.

  25. It’s true that Fisher was conservative with McNair–that is, until the 2001 season. The Titans’ defense was so terrible that OC Mike Heimerdinger convinced Fisher that they had to take McNair’s “gloves” off. Two seasons later, McNair was an NFL MVP. Nutshell: Notions that Fisher hampered McNair are overestimated. Also Steve was called “Air McNair” in college because he was so athletic Alcorn State fans compared him to “Air Jordon”–not because McNair was a throwing wild man. They also called him “Air II.” In college, he only had one elite season as a passer–his last season there.

    Actually, major credit should got Jeff Fisher here. The new head coach was ecstatic when his team selected McNair No. 3 overall, making him the highest drafted African-American quarterback in NFL history at the time and signing him to a seven-year contract.

    McNair is my all-time favorite quarterback and Jeff Fisher did nothing but relentlessly support him during those early years when Tennessee Oilers and Titans fans were down on the young quarterback. Remember the chants of “Put in O’Donnell”? They were sadly ubiquitous even during the Super Bowl season.

  26. This article lays it to bear prett6 well. Jeff Fisher was a D-coordinator who somehow managed to play head coach for far too long.

  27. I punked Jeff Fisher when he was in college at USC. In the 70s I while I was at a convention in L.A. my buddies and I were at a bar when this clown showed up acting like he owned the place. We ignored him until he came to our table, thinking he was going to “whoop on everyone” for not giving him respect. Him being 5’11 188 lbs. and me 6’6 250 lbs. I put him in his place very quickly quickly. I’m just glad this was before the era where you could take endless videos and photos.

  28. Not only a horrible coach but he allowed dirtiness from his teams. But he is looking into a comeback. Good luck with that Jeff. Actually no, never coach football again at any level.

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