Tony Dungy: Josh McDaniels hanging assistants out to dry is indefensible

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Former Colts head coach Tony Dungy is not a fan of Josh McDaniels.

McDaniels spurned the Colts having already told the team that he’d take their head-coaching job and already told assistant coaches they’d have a job on his staff, and Dungy took to Twitter today to denounce McDaniels’ actions.

“I can tell you there is NO excuse big enough to justify this,” Dungy wrote. “It’s one thing to go back on your word to an organization. But having assistant coaches leave jobs to go with you then leave them out to dry is indefensible.”

Dungy said the fact that McDaniels hadn’t signed a contract doesn’t change the fact that McDaniels gave his word.

“You make those decisions before you say I Do. Don’t get married start a family then say I changed my mind. He didn’t sign the contract but he said I Do,” Dungy wrote. “That is common decency and integrity. You don’t do that to the families of your peers.”

Dungy also said he doesn’t blame the Patriots for keeping McDaniels, but does blame McDaniels for violating a trust within the coaching community.

“Has nothing to do with a Bob Kraft. This is all on Josh McDaniels. He’s a grown man and has to take responsibility for his decisions,” Dungy wrote. “I can tell you in the football coaching community it’s not even close to being acceptable.”

Dungy is no doubt far from alone in feeling that way. And when or if McDaniels does become a head coach again, he may have a hard time convincing assistant coaches that he’s a boss they’d want to work for.

146 responses to “Tony Dungy: Josh McDaniels hanging assistants out to dry is indefensible

  1. Does Dungy want the job then? If he thinks the Colts are accurately reflecting the team personnel situation then he should pounce on that.

  2. Dungy is entitled to his opinion, but we’re only hearing one side of this story.
    Why would the Colts offer positions to support coaches when they did not yet have the Head Coach under contract? It’s Business 101. Until the ink is on the contract, BOTH sides have the right to change their minds. I never really understood why McDaniels would want to go to a team with Ballard and Irsay anyway. New England made him an offer and he decided to stay. Simple as that. The Colt organization should not have signed other coaches prior to getting McDaniels in the barn.
    Tony needs to weigh in after McDaniels has told his side, if he ever does. Tony is paid for giving his opinion, but get all the facts before making blanket statements.

  3. Agreed. When the story broke he was going back to New England, the first thing I thought about was the serious amount of disrespect for the coaches who already left their jobs and committed to Indy.

  4. McDaniel’s never signed a contract with the Colts, that is a fact. Given that he never signed a contract, how could McDaniels have ever been in position to sign these assistant coaches?

    If these guys signed with the Colts, it was Ballard’s decision to sign them, maybe with McDaniels approval, but he can’t hang this on McDaniels. Valid acted before he had a signed contract from McDaniels. Quit blaming Josh, and start blaming Chris Ballard

  5. It’s pretty safe to say McDaniels will never be offered a head coach job ever again. The guy can’t be trusted.

    What owner would want a guy like that running his team?

    What assistants would ever want to work for him?

  6. “And when or if McDaniels does become a head coach again, he may have a hard time convincing assistant coaches that he’s a boss they’d want to work for.”

    I had to laugh out loud at that one. I would bet money that if McDaniels ever becomes a a head coach, he will have no problem whatsoever hiring assistants. Not only that, I would also bet money that when the 2018 season ends, he’ll be approached for head coaching jobs by other teams. This is the NFL, come on. If you have a need, you’re going to climb down off that moral high horse in a hurry.

  7. He did the Colts fans a big favor. In two years they would be calling for his firing anyway.

  8. I wasn’t aware that he gave commitments to assistant coaches who left their jobs to go work for McDaniels. I agree with Dungy; that is just plain indefensible.

  9. I have nothing but respect for Tony Dungy and appreciate his views on this matter. It would be nice if he could fill in as Head Coach of the Colts while they are searching for a suitable replacement. Dungy knows the jam McDaniels left the Colts in. This “Yes I do and later No I changed my mind’ stuff just doesn’t cut it.

  10. elmerbrownelmerbrown says:
    February 7, 2018 at 4:20 pm
    This McDaniels guy didn’t he fail as a head coach already ?
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    So didn’t 31 other head coaches this year. Very insightful.

  11. Pats fan here. This is on McDaniels, and it is a weasel move. I agree with Dungy.

    As an aside, and not an excuse, I do not think the league should allow any coaches to interview with anyone until after the SB. It’s just not fair to coaches who teams are still playing, or to those teams, and it forces people to have to make decisions on issues when they have not had the time or opportunity to give it their full consideration.

  12. this happens all the time in real work place so and so says i’m leaving this job, workplace makes better offer person stays, there was no contract signed and there was reports two weeks ago he was getting cold feet

  13. He just killed his coaching career by doing this. He basically was given a 2nd chance (because he really screwed things up in Denver), and blew this opportunity. The only place he will ever get to coach is in New England… he better hope to hell he doesn’t get fired one day.

  14. McDaniels didn’t reveal his true character. He just confirmed it. He was an arrogant POS in Denver and cheater and nothing has changed.

    Colts lucked out that he didn’t keep his word. McD belongs in Cheatriotville.

  15. A Matter Of Trust. After this stunt, McDaniels will never be coveted by any organization except the New England Patriots.

  16. Why would the Colts offer the contracts before McD signed? That’s what clueless disorganized franchises do. Why would the coaches sign before McD signed? That’s just dumber than dumb. And this is exactly like Dungy to pile on the low hanging fruit. Just like the classless haters. McD did what was best for him and his family. Can’t fault the guy for that. Can laugh at the Colts and their piss poor execution per usual though.

  17. @slvrkng

    So then provide us with some hypotheticals that would be a strong defense for such a shady maneuver.

    Dungy’s point is there is no defense and says it as plain as day.
    That perspective does not require hearing the other side.

  18. I do feel for assistants caught in the lurch, but knowing the Colts this is like being stranded in Southampton because somebody tore up your ticket for the Titanic.

  19. people left jobs and passed on opportunities to join Josh’s future staff, its not just the colts that got burned, and some have the nerve to still defend him because he hadn’t signed the contract ? ? we are talking legality and technicalities vs. integrity here

  20. Why is this a surprise? Cheating Bill his mentor did this to the Jets…. and of course those paragons of virtue making up their fan base think its ok and they cant understand why people loath them….they think its because they win, but in fact its because they are DB…and its not dirt.

  21. Many rationale and normal Patriots fans are having a difficult time defending McDaniels’ actions and low morals even if it does benefit their team. They’re smart enough to realize they’d be pissed if the shoe were on the other foot. Only the biggest homers and fanboys are defending McDaniels.

  22. Wrong! Ballard and Irsay not realizing that they needed an actual signature on a contract is indefensible. Josh McDaniels has been taught by Bill Belichick how to win and the Colts GM is now the laughing stock of the NFL.

  23. Nofoolnodrool says:
    February 7, 2018 at 4:38 pm
    Why is this a surprise? Cheating Bill his mentor did this to the Jets…. and of course those paragons of virtue making up their fan base think its ok and they cant understand why people loath them….they think its because they win, but in fact its because they are DB…and its not dirt.
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    Maybe you ought to know the facts before you post such dribble. Parcells resigned and Belichick was inline to be head coach with a dead owner. He didn’t like either of the two potential new owners and wasnt comfortable being moved to head coach in an organization in that way and with questionable ownership. So he resigned. He was never actually the head coach really. You must be one heck of judgmental human being.

  24. as a Pats fan, i get the bush league nature of it and I 100% agree. As for the Belichick jets ordeal, Bill was ALREADY the coach for a day, collected his bonus, and then resigned. And while my fellow patriots fan say “Josh never signed the contract” i find it BS regardless. A handshake agreement may not be a written/signed document, but I would not do that, it makes you less of a person. Do not forget my fellow New Englanders, PARCELLS did the SAME THING to Tampa. He backed out, then a year later, became a big part of us staying in Foxborough.

  25. Even his agent fired him. How often do you see conduct so despicable that even the agent objects?

  26. I thought i was going to have to wait a full eight months for everyone to be whining about the Patriots again. Though I have to think most of this derision is based on the Patriots not being nearly as dysfunctional as many were hoping. Things will reach fever pitch if Gronk eventually decides to come back, though I really hope for his sake he doesn’t.

  27. They will be better for it..Dont you remember when he was a disaster in Denver? Without Brady and Belichick none of the Pats assistants have bee worth a hoot.

  28. “Why would the Colts offer the contracts before McD signed?”

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    Probably because he asked them to, so he would have all his assistants lined up.

  29. In a year or two when Beli retires or moves on,Tawmy is gone.McDaniels will get his shot…and the Pats will hover in mediocricy, churning out 8-8 seasons.You can flip off the Colts….Karma ain’t so ez. I’m not surprised in the least that he did it, it was almost expected.

  30. 100% wrong on two counts: 1) If the Colts allows a man not under contract to place others under contracts, it is the Colts that have the problem. 2) I hear the assistants are not being bound to their contracts and can leave.

    Dungy, you’re a good man and maybe you see what was done as distasteful, but McDaniels is not the culprit or is he culpable except for looking after his own interest.

  31. Kraft and belichick would never have done that to another team. The colts deserve it, they get exactly what they earned and we will never forget the fraud they participated in. The assistants still have jobs , so what do they care, I doubt they were following McDaniels to be with him

  32. A man is only as good as his word. I’m surprised at the number defending this with the “he hadn’t signed” BS. I guess I need to be less trusting in my business dealings.

  33. Colts jumped the gun. GM Ballard already admitted there was no promise, no “I do” when he said Josh’s finally declining the job was “his prerogative, his choice”. Piping in salty noise from Dungy who still hates on the Pats makes no difference to the fact. Josh didn’t hire those assistants, he may have recommended or agreed with Colts’ choices but Colts shouldn’t have hired them until they’d hired Josh and allowed Josh to hire those guys. The Colts are a thoroughly dysfunctional org and this just proves it – yet again.

  34. walker1191 says:
    February 7, 2018 at 4:33 pm

    …As an aside, and not an excuse, I do not think the league should allow any coaches to interview with anyone until after the SB. It’s just not fair to coaches who teams are still playing, or to those teams, and it forces people to have to make decisions on issues when they have not had the time or opportunity to give it their full consideration.

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    THIS. This is the real underlying problem that. Team can’t official hire coaches still participating in the playoffs while everyone else can start whenever. It’s a stupid rule.

    Either have everybody start at the same time after the SB, or don’t hold assistants captive until their teams are done. That’s only fair to both the organizations and to the coaches.

  35. It’s not the greatest situation, but all three of them have a better job than they had a week ago. One was an LB coach that is now a DC, one is an O-line coach that didn’t have a job, and one was a college d-line coach who is at the same position in the NFL. Have any of them attempted to get out of their contracts? I’d think Indy would let them out if the wanted out given the unique situation

  36. D*** move for sure, but the NFL rules are partly to blame. He can interview and say he is taking the job, BUT he can’t sign until the season ends.

  37. viffty says:

    February 7, 2018 at 4:59 pm

    Slimy and dishonest. He’s perfect for the Pats

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    Whether or not he’s perfect for the Patriots is irrelevant.

    But one thing’s for sure – McDaniels just took a flamethrower to his chances of ever being an NFL head coach.

  38. People wondering why Indy was signing assistants before McDaniels have to remember the NFL schedule….McDaniels can’t sign until the season is over. The people they were bringing in could. Meaning other teams who had vacancies could as well. Waiting until McDaniels signed meant these guys might have taken other jobs. The Colts were filling acancies, and everyone was doing so based off McDaniels commitment. He left them ALL hanging out to dry. Dungy knows what he is talking about.

  39. Tony Dungy assistants:
    1996 Assistant Ricky Porter – fired
    2000 OC Mike Shula – fired
    2001 OC Les Steckel – fired (after HIGHEST Bucs’ scoring season ever)
    2002 QB coach John Hufnagel – fired
    2002 WR coach Jay Novell – fired
    2002 DC Vic Fangio – fired
    2002 DL coach Todd Grantham – fired
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    Um, Coach, you left us assistants out to dry too…

  40. If the players can take a knee, so can Josh.

    Hang an almost participated banner with Josh’s name on it.

  41. Yawn. This is old news. Somebody oughta ask Dungy to explain why it’s ok for players to sign contracts yet then hold out! I think THAT is much worse that what Josh McDaniels did.
    And this line about no one ever hiring McDaniels again? That’s laugh out loud stupid.

  42. Are we talking about the same Tony Dungy that said:

    – just recently that the 2001-2017 Patriots were not a great dynasty?
    – that told Mike Sando ESPN that Tom Brady was the SIXTH best quarterback ever?

    Yeah, his opinion of anything Patriots-related is clouded by his salty tears…

  43. Integrity seems to be a word McDaniels was not taught as a kid. Kind of surprising he has gotten as far as he has. He might be smart, whatever, but that doesn’t change the fact he is still a douche..I think pretty embarrassing to the Patriots as well to have someone of this ilk on their staff. Win at all costs I suppose.

  44. Thanks for your opinion St.Dungy but from a pure business standpoint the Patriots made McDaniel a counteroffer to stay where he has spent 15 of the past 17 years of his professional NFL career. He accepted and did what he felt was best for him and his family.

    Patriots fans we are laughing from the rooftops !At 2PM the Patriots were going to lose their OC, QB coach and STC.By 6:30 all are staying. Deflate that Colts fans!

  45. The “offseason” should not begin until the offseason. No coaches hired until one week after the Super Bowl. Too much distraction for playoff teams. Non playoff teams just have to wait. Oh, and McDaniels is a weasel.

  46. Doesn’t anyone remember when this guy coached the Colts? He was awful and had very poor character at that time. What do people think has changed with him now? Obviously he has just shown that he hasn’t changed.

  47. It’s not that abnormal for the team to start assembling the staff of the coach in waiting ahead of time before they end up hired elsewhere. At least as far as assistants on Superbowl teams goes. Given the fact most vacancies and staffs are filled by that point. Irsay may be an idiot but this is all due to Joshy being a tool

  48. Josh McDaniels is a scumbag. No question about that. Watching the Patriots lose the Super Bowl and get to watch the McDaniels/Patriots dumpster fire….SWEET!

  49. No one hated Josh McDaniels in Denver more so than his own assistants who blew the whistle on his cheating ways in the London game which was the final straw that got him fired. Now after this episode, which assistant coaches would leave to work for this guy in the future? Josh just locked himself into the Pats organization for his career.

  50. Look at all of these lifetime burger flippers trying to flex their muscles and tell us how the real world works. Considering McDaniels couldn’t sign a dang thing until after the season officially ended on Monday, kind of hard to get that contract signed in time to start 2018 right away without the ‘ole handshake agreement. On top of that, what if the Colts were to do the same to McD? Pull the rug out from under him with a different coach after that “handshake”? In businesses like the NFL, you are supposed to negotiate in good faith considering it isn’t exactly like the rest of the world. McD did not, and he absolutely will pay for it when it comes time to interview for other openings. He’s a weasel, reminds me of that guy from Billy Madison.

  51. This is a perfect example of why one should never negotiate a contract in public. All of this should have been done in Irsay’s office and made public ONLY when the ink is dry.

    Even if Kraft made a counter-offer, none of this should have seen the light of day until the I’s have been crossed and the T’s dotted (yes, that’s a joke, but you get the point).

  52. Coming from the guy who defended Vick for killing dogs but rex Ryan is a bad person because he drops some f bombs

  53. McDaniels was just scared to fail like he did in Denver already. Easier to hide behind BB and make himself look like a decent coach.

  54. It’s one of those situations where if people (the media) keeps repeating something enough, people believe it to be true.

    You can claim all you want that McDaniels went against “his word.” But it was not McDaniels who announced his signing (before he actually signed). It was the Colts. It was not McDaniel who signed contracts with a couple of assistants. It was the Colts. Why should McDaniels be blamed and essentially held hostage because the Colts have poor business acumen and clearly weren’t aware of McDaniels cold feet (which was reported right on this website over the weekend)? Furthermore, Ballard’s agent was the same as McDaniels’ agent– how did neither see this as a possibility?

  55. Tony Dungy is hardly an unbiased source. Him and his Colts teams were repeatedly humiliated by the Patriots despite them having the supposedly better QB. He has been on their case ever since he left coaching and takes every opportunity to attack or malign them, such as when he ranked Brady the sixth best QB in history and got laughed off the set trying to defend it. The best revenge is having him share a stage with Rodney Harrison on Sunday nights, a man that had a hand in quite a few of those embarrassing defeats.

  56. Not sure where you people are getting the idea any of the assistant coaches (the ones McDaniels was bringing in) were signed by the Colts. The article certainly doesn’t corroborate that.

  57. Are Colts releasing, from their contracts, any assistants who don’t want to be there now that McDaniels isn’t coming? Are they holding them to the contracts? Just as fans have been saying college players should be allowed to transfer without sitting out a year if the coach who recruited them leaves school, these assistants should be allowed out of their contracts if they so choose. Would be right thing for Colts to do.

  58. RE LEE says:
    February 7, 2018 at 5:35 pm
    Colts shouldn’t have flapped their mouths until Josh signed the contract.

    12 7 Rate This

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    or lying about luck being healthy to start last season for more ticket sales

    their own fans were ticked off about irsay lying again

    mcdaniels shoulf have never answered ballard’s request for an interview

  59. I’d wager Luck may be finished, and with no franchise QB in the house, how long would Irsay put up with mediocre seasons before he fired McDaniels and all those assistants anyway? Would there be an uproar then? This is saving both everyone some pain in the long run.

  60. tony isn’t always totally objective when it comes to the patriots. when he refused to rank brady even in the top 5 active qbs in the league last year, he disqualified himself. brady was universally regarded as the GOAT by all objective observers after SB 49. SB 51 and 52 only added to his dominance.

  61. I believe Tony Dungy is a self rightious hypocrite. However, I totally agree with him on this issue though. In most occupations your word should be your bond. Apparently not in the NFL. I am a Pats fan, but unless Tom Brady was going with him, McDaniel as head coach would not improve the Colts.

  62. So Dungy, if this is such a big deal for you, why haven’t we heard you call out college coaches who promise students and their families that they’re not going anywhere, then jump for the next big money contract? Aren’t those student athletes deserving of more than a professional coach who has a signed contract and will still be paid? Countless examples of guys leaving college for the NFL after promising they wouldn’t, but Tony has no problem with that….hypocrite.

  63. Signed or not the assistants were asked to leave their jobs , McDaniels broke his word, which is a weasel move

  64. Coming from the guy who defended Vick for killing dogs but rex Ryan is a bad person because he drops some f bombs

    Dungy is a senile joke…incapable of judging the Patriots impartially because he got spanked so many times by them…yeah dog killing is forgivable..but changing your mind? Unforgivable…hang em up old man

  65. Earvin Bird says: “Are Colts releasing, from their contracts, any assistants who don’t want to be there now that McDaniels isn’t coming?”
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    Are you kidding? New DC Eberflus is getting promoted from being a linebacker coach. That alone is a pay raise from $350,000 to about $1,000,000 range. No way do I want a release – you need to fire me as NFL coach contracts are fully guaranteed (unlike players who play for a series of one-year contracts).

  66. Tony you’re wrong. It’s the owners that hang decades long fans out to dry with their ridiculous ‘RELOCATION’ policy. The owners like Irsay, Spanos and Davis couldn’t care less. They want money and they’ll crush anybody and anything in their way to get it. Josh gave them a dose of their own medicine.

  67. Two things to consider…

    1. Indy had a horrible tragedy in the Colts family. Horrible time for anyone to take advantage of that.

    2. As to the above, the classless ones are the Krafts. How could they do what they did to recruit McDaniels back to them this late. They have had months to have the meeting with McDaniels and they time the discussion as they did?

    3. As to the above, this may be legal tampering but it is also the worst case of tampering ever if McDaniels and the Colts had any type of informal handshake agreement. No ink on the contract may protect Pats from action from the Commissioner’s Office, but it doesn’t protect Pats from the reality that they tampered with the Colt’s head coach.

  68. Let’s get over ourselves for a second. All this stuff about “a man is only as good as his word” is ridiculous, especially in the NFL. Ask Mike Mularkey. This is nothing new. Nothing matters except a signed contract. Period. End of story.

  69. Josh is a lying weasel – his actions are a reflection of the arrogance of the “patriot way” – pathetic loser.

  70. Josh is a lying weasel – his actions are a reflection of the arrogance of the “patriot way” – pathetic loser.
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    This!

  71. slvrkng says:
    February 7, 2018 at 4:21 pm
    Dungy is entitled to his opinion, but we’re only hearing one side of this story.
    Why would the Colts offer positions to support coaches when they did not yet have the Head Coach under contract?
    __________________________

    Umm…because McDaniels was still coaching up to the Super Bowl? It’s typical for teams to fill out staff with the future HC’s hand-picked guys while he’s coaching in the playoffs…as long as they got that coach’s word that he’s accepted the job. Matt Patricia was making staff decisions for the Lions as far back as January 23rd.

  72. Those defending and excusing Joshies actions, speak more about their own integrity and issues, than anything else.

    But in today’s world, is any of this shocking?

  73. Why didn’t Kraft talk to McD during this process if he wanted him to stay. To apparently verbally commit to the Colts and start building a staff, and then back out is absolute bush league.

  74. If Josh wants to go out in a year or two and get another job he’ll have no problem.

    What a bunch of drama queens.

  75. Anyone remember when Doug Marrone exercised his contractually allowable exit option when the Bills changed ownership? He thought he’d get an HC job immediately. Three years later he finally got his shot.

    This is far more egregious, if he’s not the next Pats HC he’ll never be one anywhere else.

  76. We can all comment about things but none of us know exactly what went down here. I am not excusing what on the face of things seems obvious that McDaniels has left many people in a poor position, but his reasons for doing so are unknown at this point.

    Like him or otherwise he is not a stupid man he will know his actions here have consequences for his future yet he still chose to back out. I doubt he did that without a very good reason or reasons.

    A deal is not done until the paperwork is signed, if this proves one thing it is that this silly NFL rule about not being able to hire someone until their season is over is a joke. On one hand you have a guy who was “The next head coach of a team” who despite not actually being a head coach of that team is hiring other coaches for positions, yet he himself has not even been hired yet…. what a ridiculous state of affairs

  77. First off, everyone knows McDanielsis a sleazy dude. He gets caught cheating in Denver, blames the video guy and fires him but not before trading away all the teams talent first. The Colts should just be happy that this pissant didn’t take over the job and instead weaseled his way out in typical new England fashion

  78. Absolutely hilarious reading the comments, they all apply to what the Colts did to the Patriots during framegate. That’s what disgusting, not Josh changing his mind( coming to his senses)!

  79. Verbal/oral contracts are legal. Maybe not provable…and I do not even know if there was an agreement to all the specifics… however as an example I pulled from the mighty net…

    “”An oral contract is any agreement that two or more parties make based entirely on spoken or orally communicated terms. For example, if a contractor shows up at your home, says it will take $10,000 to remodel your bathroom and both of you agree to the terms of the remodeling, you have entered into a contract. If you fail to pay the $10,000, or the contractor fails to perform the work, you can go to court and ask the court to enforce the contract provisions.””

  80. Remember this moment when McDaniels is passed over as Belichick’s replacement, notwithstanding whatever promise Kraft made to him to get him to stay. (I’d guess that there is no signed contract to guarantee him that job, as that would put the Pats afoul of the Rooney Rule. And, gracious, who could imagine them breaking a rule …)

  81. Just a what if. McDaniels agrees in principal. Part of that agreement may have been that he had roster control. He gets to the final day and Irsay says nope, roster control is mine. McDaneils walks away. Who do you blame now. With Irsay’s record why does everyone jump to the conclusion that it’s McDaneils fault. It’s not exactly a secret that Irsay is a nut job.

  82. It`s scary how many people have no moral compass these days. If you try to do the right thing you get vilified by those who don`t have what it takes.
    He acted like a teenage school girl who can`t decide which boy she likes after giving his word on something that didn`t just effect him and his family but the families of the coaches that went to Indy for him. I`m not a Colts fan but that is as classless as it gets no matter the excuses you guys want to make up.

  83. At his press conference Ballard said that all of the assistants that were hired wil be with the Colts next year, in spite of McDaniels’ withdrawal . So, Dungy’s concern has no merit.
    His animosity towards the Patriots is relentless.

  84. Come on, who cares? The guy can change his mind all he wants until he signs the paper. Players do it all the time to teams. Dungy has always disliked the pats and will use anything to say something bad about them, just like half the people on this site. If it were the Cardinals no one would say anything.

  85. Whoever said that Luck may be finished, well, I tend to agree with them. I wonder if his camp thought Luck was going to be available and then he heard otherwise. It’s one thing to take a job with Luck at the helm. It’s a whole other animal to get the mediocre roster with your former third stringer that’s your starting QB. McD could’ve been lied to as well. I’m not defending the guy, lots of stuff may have happened that we never know, but if Luck ends up not being available this season (or to start)–could have been a contributing reason.

  86. Dungy, one could argue winning only one Superbowl with a Top5 Qb of all time against a coach who can barely resurrect a college program is pretty indefensible as well…

    BUT HEY….🤷🏿‍♂️

  87. Karma…sucking for luck after RELEASING peyton while he was still under contract so they wouldn’t have to pay him the money that they AGREED to pay him.Whats with this holier than thou attitudes…don’t tell me none of you ever went back on your word for anything in your entire lives.

  88. Hey doug marrone…after you walked out on the bills was it hard to find a job???Hey Blount after you quit on the steelers how has life been?Hey T.O. see you made it….really you people need to be quiet.THE ASSISTANT COACHES WILL KEEP THEIR JOBS.

  89. The Colts are playing dumb and people are eating it up like candy.

    The Colts knew that Josh was a Patriots employee until the moment he resigned,

    they should have known the the Patriots would push hard to protect their assets and retain Josh,

    and they should have know Josh was having cold feet (PFT reported this, on Saturday IIRC).

    Lots of coaches in all sports and at all levels have had last-second concerns and have backed out of deals.

    Did I expect it? No. Should the Colts have considered that it was possible? Yes.

    It was not even unethical. The Patriots made counter-proposals to retain their own employee, within 48 hours of when he was first legally allowed to make a binding decision. A Patriots employee chose the deal best for his future.

    This need not be so complicated.

  90. Two sides of the same coin: No doubt that what McDaniels did was handled very badly. The other side is that Dungy is well known for being a Patriots hater,so there’s no surprise there either. Obviously, McDaniels is more than willing to live with it, and the hate that will come with it,so what’s done is done.

  91. So many Colts fans comments here say that McDaniels would have been a horribile coach or they’re better off without him. The numbers in the thumbs up on posts bashing MD are astronomical. Sounds like a bunch of deflated fans are coming out in droves. Karma

  92. Coaches don’t offer positions to franchises. Franchises offer coaching positions to coaches. For having acted on hiring of assistant coaches prior to McDaniels signing a contract, The Colts are now basically walking back the fact that they offered a coaching position to McDaniels which by rule could not be offered until the Patriots season was over (regardless of what McDaniels did or didn’t do).

    Unless McDaniels (without solicitation) called the Colts in January and specifically asked to be their new head coach (which seems highly unlikely), there is no other plausible explanation other than the Colts acted upon offering a coaching position that by rule could not yet be offered. Why else would an agent and a franchise be so anxious to control the story?

  93. I’m still waiting for someone to tell me how Dungy’s in the HOF for winning 1 Super Bowl and not much else? 139–69 (.668)regular season w/ one of the all time great QB’s but a pathetic 9–10 (.474) postseason record. Meanwhile, Tom Flores won a SB as a player like Dungy but also one as an asst coach and TWO as Head Coach. 1 more then Dungy. He was also first minority to coach a SB winner. His coaching record was 97–87 (.527) regular season but 8–3 (.727) in the post season where things really matter. And he did it w/out the luck of coaching an all time great QB. The fact he’s in the HOF is pathetically bogus!

    Also, I take whatever Dungy says about anything and anyone involved with the Patriots w/ a grain of salt. As in, always salty if it involves the Patriots. Guys like him and Polian and their fanbase see things thru bias Colt colored glasses alwasy. In other words, self righteous, jealous, envious, conspiracy theorist, excuse making Patriot haters. Wonder if God is ok w/ Tony feeling negatively towards McDaniels? Cry me a river. Boo Hoo!

  94. He probably woke up the morning after the Superbowl and realized that he would have to live in Indiana and, even worse, he would have to work for Irsay.

  95. This will limit the guys that want to come to the Colts. The vast majority of new NFL head coaches demand to hire their own assistants, McDaniels did. The assistants got screwed by McDaniels, end of story.

  96. “Has nothing to do with a Bob Kraft. This is all on Josh McDaniels. He’s a grown man and has to take responsibility for his decisions,” Dungy wrote. “I can tell you in the football coaching community it’s not even close to being acceptable.”

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    I disagree. I think it has everything to do with Kraft. IMO, Kraft had to know about the immature weasel like behavior that seems to exist in McDaniels, or he wouldn’t have wasted his time in trying to get McDaniels to break his commitment to the Colts and stay with the Patriots.

    At some point, McDaniels should have a news conference discussing everything that happened, and explaining why he did what he did. This didn’t just affect the Colts, this affected people that were going to be on his coaching staff. People who disrupted their lives in an effort to be on McDaniels’ coaching staff with the Colts. He has a lot to answer for. I just don’t think he is man enough to do it, because I don’t think he is man enough to take the heat from questions asked at a press conference. Of course he could “cherry pick” the questions that he would be willing to answer. That is the weaselly way out.

  97. I don’t think McDaniels is solely to blame in this snafu. The Patriots had to know that Bill was getting near the end and that it would make sense to keep a homey in the fold for the handoff, so Kraft needs to pick up some of the blame.

  98. Patsareinyourheads says:
    February 7, 2018 at 8:52 pm
    At his press conference Ballard said that all of the assistants that were hired wil be with the Colts next year, in spite of McDaniels’ withdrawal .
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    That’s because Ballard has integrity, unlike Joshy boy.

  99. jfm215 says:

    February 7, 2018 at 6:27 pm

    Coming from the guy who defended Vick for killing dogs but rex Ryan is a bad person because he drops some f bombs

    Dungy is a senile joke…incapable of judging the Patriots impartially because he got spanked so many times by them…yeah dog killing is forgivable..but changing your mind? Unforgivable…hang em up old man
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    St. Dungy can do or say no wrong. lol

  100. Colts are going to struggle finding a quality HC if Ballard plans on keeping all these assistants McDaniels left in the lurch. The new hire will want to bring his own staff

  101. jackwagon says:
    February 8, 2018 at 7:31 am
    Patsareinyourheads says:
    February 7, 2018 at 8:52 pm
    At his press conference Ballard said that all of the assistants that were hired wil be with the Colts next year, in spite of McDaniels’ withdrawal .
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    That’s because Ballard has integrity, unlike Joshy boy.

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    No. Integrity is not the reason. The reason is the coaches have signed enforceable contracts. Sort of easy to understand INO,

  102. Karma is awesome…….

    Should McDaniels have reneged on his handshake with the Colts; No ?

    But is it a hoot seeing the Colts getting hosed by the Patriots; hell yes……..

  103. revelation123 says:

    February 12, 2018 at 4:58 pm

    A 2x Spygate cheater cheats his assistant coaches out of his word. Makes sense.

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    Too bad he got them raises too.

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