Will DeFillippo push Vikings to make a play for Nick Foles?

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Two years ago, the Vikings acquired Sam Bradford in a trade with the Eagles. Soon, the Vikings could be considering whether to trade for the quarterback who was once traded for Bradford.

Nick Foles, the man who carved up the Vikings two weeks before becoming the Super Bowl MVP, thrived in Philly under the tutelage, in part, of new Vikings offensive coordinator John DeFilippo. So will DeFilippo nudge the Vikings to try to make a deal for Foles?

During an appearance last week on PFT Live, Vikings G.M. Rick Spielman acknowledged that the team’s next offensive coordinator would have input regarding the team’s next quarterback. And DeFilippo may be prepared to make a pitch for Nick.

It won’t be easy; unless the Eagles decide to reward Foles by sending him to a team where he’ll start, they’ll likely wait for an offer they can’t refuse. Which means that the Vikings may not be willing to send even more draft-pick capital to the Eagles less than two years after giving up a first-round pick and a fourth-round pick for Bradford.

56 responses to “Will DeFillippo push Vikings to make a play for Nick Foles?

  1. Why trade players or picks trading for a QB when you can get a better one in free agency? Don’t get me wrong Eagles fans, Foles was flat out amazing this postseason but Cousins is better and Keenum might be. My hunch is Case stays in Minnesota and the two find a happy contract medium. Don’t forget the job of developing Sloter too. The Vikings went to a lot of trouble keeping him on the roster.

  2. Why trade Foles to a possible playoff team? All they are talking about is getting back and you give another team bullets to gun you down, I don’t think so

  3. Hopefully they don’t do it. Just re-sign Keenum or Bradford and draft someone. They apparently like Kyle Sloter, so maybe they don’t even need to draft anyone this year.

    Lets get some O-line and DB depth and get ready to make a run. Doubt there will ever be an easier path than there was this year but who knows?

  4. Bringing in Foles would speed up he process of teaching the offense since the QB is already familiar with his scheme PLUS Foles is an upgrade to anyone they have…

  5. That would be pretty crazy. But getting a first round pick for a QB which you only have under contract for one more year when you have an all pro on a rookie contract might be too much to pass up.

  6. Foles is at the top of his value right now. He will never command the salary that he is going to command at this very point in time. Please do not do something dumb.

  7. A good offensive coordinator should be able to work with whatever quarterback you have. Schurmur got a lot out of Keenum and Foles isn’t significantly more talented than Keenum. Bridgewater has more talent than either one of them but was hampered by an OC that wouldn’t adjust to what he did well. I’m positive Zimmer wouldn’t have hired this guy if his pitch included trading assets for Nick Foles.

  8. That will not happen. wentz is coming back from a serious injury. And you need two QB’s in the NFL. The Eagles have 2 QB’s they can win with. Not every team has that advantage. I don’t see them giving that up. Besides the Vikings need their #1 pick for O Linemen. Hopefully Price or a new O tackle

  9. I don’t see Foles as a huge upgrade over Keenum, who had a pretty good season last year. CUT bait with Bradford and Bridgewater. Keenum is better.

  10. This won’t happen. Vikings have enough options that don’t have draft cost. Yes, they’re all free agents, but so is Foles after this year.

    Foles is more likely to be shipped to Arizona or the Jets – you know, places with zero quarterback prospects.

  11. Doubt it.

    He was likely hired to get Keenum to the same level of performance while keeping draft picks. They really don’t want to spend more draft capital as they could use those for improvement.

    Defense could still use some improvement. HOLD ON – other than 2 games against the Rams (early) and the Falcons in the regular season, they didn’t exactly play some juggernaut offensive teams. That #1 ranking may have been a bit of smoke n mirrors. After all the Eagles put up about as many points against those #1 Vikings as they did against the #28th defense in the Patriots.

    8 teams had better defensive performances in the playoffs overall than the Vikings did so, IMO that #1 may have been more about who/when they played teams than what they are on D.

  12. Wentz wont be ready for the season ACL usually takes 10 months. He tore that in November/December do the math. Eagles keep Foles pay the cash to him once Wentz is ready unless Wentz cant play….. Maybe Foles regains the qb spot and after the year Wentz is second string. Wentz is still in his Rookie Contract which is still cheap

  13. packertruth says:
    February 9, 2018 at 12:39 am
    Fleece QB lacking Vikings picks in return middling talent. Rinse. Repeat
    You should talk, any of the Vikings 3 QB’s would have been a 100% improvement over what the Packers had this year.

  14. Why would the Eagles even give up Foles? Wentz is most likely not going to be 100% by the beginning of 2018 Season. The Eagles will need Foles to start probably 2-3 games while Wentz fully recovers.

    I’d say there is like 10% chance he comes here.

  15. Also Foles is not any better than Case Keenum. If you actually watch the plays he made against the Vikings and Patriots a lot of the big plays were “50-50” Balls. Alshon Jeffrey bailed him out on a lot of those plays by out manning the guy next to him. The Vikings defense was a bit banged up in the NFCC game. I think if the defense was healthy those plays wouldn’t have happened.

    Foles had a top 5 offensive line with the eagles, a stable of great running backs and recivers. He was in a perfect situation to succeed. That doesn’t mean he will come here and cure all our woes.

  16. Teams that don’t know how to draft QBs are going to have to overpay via free agency or trade. That’s just the price of doing business in the NFL. Vikes ended up on the losing end of the Sam Bradford trade, but they really had no other choice. Now it looks they may have to give up a couple of 1st rounders for a Foles or pay $100M for a Cousins.

  17. Doubt it.

    He was likely hired to get Keenum to the same level of performance while keeping draft picks. They really don’t want to spend more draft capital as they could use those for improvement.

    Defense could still use some improvement. HOLD ON – other than 2 games against the Rams (early) and the Falcons in the regular season, they didn’t exactly play some juggernaut offensive teams. That #1 ranking may have been a bit of smoke n mirrors. After all the Eagles put up about as many points against those #1 Vikings as they did against the #28th defense in the Patriots.

    8 teams had better defensive performances in the playoffs overall than the Vikings did so, IMO that #1 may have been more about who/when they played teams than what they are on D.

  18. People we have covered this multiple times. The Eagles got the better of the Vikings in the Bradford trade because of the very rare circumstances. The Vikings had 2 hurt QB’s 8 days before the start of their season. Also the Eagles aren’t getting rid of Foles. Not for a 1. It would take a 1 and a few picks the Vikings need.

  19. Foles has two good games and fans and media everywhere are crowning him as a franchise QB. Vikings will be better off trying to bring Bridgewater and Bradford back and have a QB competition for the starter.

    Keenum also isn’t the answer for the Vikings. He deserves the chance to be a starter in the NFL, but I honestly hope that isn’t with the Vikings.

  20. Keenum could/would do just as well as Foles did in that offense. And he is more mobile than Foles. So…..no to trading away picks for a flash in the pan QB.

  21. fmc651 says:
    February 9, 2018 at 10:04 am
    People we have covered this multiple times. The Eagles got the better of the Vikings in the Bradford trade because of the very rare circumstances.
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    Wrong. They got the better of the Vikings in the Bradford trade because Spielman panicked in the mistaken belief that the 2016 Vikings had a shot.

    Had he waited a week or two, the Vikes would have gotten Bradford for a 2nd. Eagles were eager to move his salary.

  22. teal379 says:

    Doubt it.

    He was likely hired to get Keenum to the same level of performance while keeping draft picks. They really don’t want to spend more draft capital as they could use those for improvement.

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    This is how I see it too, keeping in mind that Minnesota does not want a top heavy QB contract. Solid point about adding more defensive talent. I love our D but they (and Zim) got exposed. The plan might be someone to make Keenum better (strongest possibility) or Bridgewater. AZ already has a car waiting to pick up Case at the airport, but they can’t have him. #keepkeenum

  23. fansince68 says:
    February 8, 2018 at 10:35 pm
    Why trade players or picks trading for a QB when you can get a better one in free agency? Don’t get me wrong Eagles fans, Foles was flat out amazing this postseason but Cousins is better and Keenum might be. My hunch is Case stays in Minnesota and the two find a happy contract medium. Don’t forget the job of developing Sloter too. The Vikings went to a lot of trouble keeping him on the roster.

    Sure, your logic is sound. Cousins can be had for about 25-30 mil/year. Keenum is franchise tagged will also cost about 24 mil then you will have to sign, but with a ton upfront. With foles you have to pay I think it’s 7 mil on the cap this year and probably around 15m/year afterwards. So if you want to sink anywhere between 10-15 mil more per year for a guy who might or might not fit the new scheme better. Is that worth a pro bowler and another solid starter that 15 extra mil it would take to sign cousin? I think not… I mean giving up a first sucks but I would rather lose a first and have foles with those 2 extra starters then cousins and a 1st round pick that may or may not on out. That’s just me

  24. blowfishes says:
    February 9, 2018 at 10:15 am
    Foles has two good games and fans and media everywhere are crowning him as a franchise QB

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    “Two good games” is a bit of an understatement.

  25. Why does everything think Foles is that amazing? Talk about prisoner in the moment. Yes he played great in the NFC Championship and Superbowl. But if you watch the plays he made, most of them his receivers bailed him out.

    First of all Foles had lots of time to find open receivers and make plays. The Philly O-line is fantastic. Top notch. Second, he had receivers win 50/50 balls vs throwing people open like how Rodgers does it. Foles has a ton of talent around him on that Eagles team. Kind of like how Case did pretty good for the Vikings because he had talent around him. I’m convinced the Eagles could have won the Superbowl with any serviceable QB.

    If you like Foles you might as well keep Case. If you want to upgrade…go after Cousins. Cousin’s has more of a resume. Cousin’s one thing against him, is he doesn’t have the best win/loss record, but he played on some pretty average to below average teams.

  26. Carl Gerbschmidt says:
    February 9, 2018 at 9:30 am

    Teams that don’t know how to draft QBs are going to have to overpay via free agency or trade. That’s just the price of doing business in the NFL. Vikes ended up on the losing end of the Sam Bradford trade, but they really had no other choice. Now it looks they may have to give up a couple of 1st rounders for a Foles or pay $100M for a Cousins.
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    Actually, the Vikings drafted a quarterback four years ago who is ready to come back from a major injury and perform at least as well as Foles or Cousins.

    Now what is your team going to do for a backup quarterback? The team that is so great at drafting quarterbacks drafted one three years ago and he still can’t play.

  27. In Teddy We Trust says:
    February 9, 2018 at 12:48 pm

    Actually, the Vikings drafted a quarterback four years ago who is ready to come back from a major injury and perform at least as well as Foles or Cousins.
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    Cousins was better than Bridgewater in 2015. And 2016. And 2017. And Bridgewater suffered a horrific knee injury.

    Only in Minnesota does recuperating from major knee injuries make you certain to better the guy who has outperformed your previous best. Outperformed. Every. Single. Year.

    Sunglasses for Sale. Tinted purple.

  28. It’s hilarious that people want to say that Foles got bailed out by his receivers in the SB.

    Sells Philly Special, catches his pass unlike TB12
    Gives Jeffery the chance to make a great catch, gets ball over Rowe but room in back of EZ
    Drops ball perfectly to Clement for TD, window for throw was about 8 inches.
    Hits Ertz in stride, allowing for him to stay on his feet and complete the catch for winning TD

    I’m not saying he would lead a new team to the SB next year, but GTFO here with the narrative that he didn’t play lights out the last 2 games.

    His resume has about 10 great games on it. Or, twice the # that JImmy G has on his resume.

  29. I don’t understand the logic of people saying Keenum is better than Foles and Foles had just 2 good games. Foles already had a full season that ended in a 27:2 td:int ratio and he was a pro bowler. His numbers that year were much better than keenum’s this year. Also, he just beat the patriots in the super bowl and dismantled which was at the time a phenomenal defense in Minnesota. You can’t hold his lack of production with the Rams against him and then give a bye to Keenum with that exact same team… just sounds bias when I see that… Am I not being logical with my assessment?

  30. LOL @ anyone thinking Keenum is better than Foles.

    While some morons may think that some of the DEEP balls (or maybe you really think a lot of Foles regular passes were 50/50? Dumb if you do) he threw were almost like 50/50 balls, they weren’t. Jeffery didn’t bail Foles out. Jeffery wasn’t even the recipient of all the deep balls. On Jeffery’s 1st TD against the Vikings, Jeffery was wide open deep. There wasn’t a DB close enough to even think it was a 50/50 ball. The deep TD pass to Torrey Smith was not a 50/50 ball. The ball was placed where only Torrey could catch it, and Keenum has a noodle arm and can’t make that throw or the 1st deep TD to Jeffery, even with Jeffery being wide open. The last TD to Jeffery was another that was thrown only where Jeffery could get it. The DB wasn’t even looking back for it to be considered 50/50 either. As for the other non deep balls, none of them were 50/50 and he wasn’t bailed out by any of the WRs/TEs.

    In the SB, the 1st TD pass to Jeffery was a great catch made by Jeffery. I’m not sure I would call it a bailout though. It wasn’t a 50/50 ball though. There was absolutely no chance for the DB to make a play on it. He tried and it was out of his reach. The 2nd pass TD (For Foles) was a perfect strike dropped in between Pats players into Clements hands. There was nothing 50/50 about it. It may appear that way, to you, because you don’t know what it is like to have a QB that can make pristine throws like that in between defenders, but there was nothing 50/50 about it. The last TD pass to Ertz was no where near being a 50/50 ball. There is only 1 pass out of all the passes that I would consider probably a 50/50 pass and that was the play to Jeffery where he almost bailed out Foles and came up with a great catch but was ultimately intercepted, so…. No 50/50 ball actually helped Foles. If you think there are a bunch of 50/50 balls and he was bailed out by his WRs, then you either are too bitter to see the truth, didn’t watch the game or don’t know what you’re looking at.

    I can totally understand if you don’t want the Vikings to trade for Foles because of what it would cost. I honestly don’t think Foles gets traded unless he wants to be, and he pushes for it. I think it would cost too much (at least I would want too much) for teams to be willing to trade for him. Having Foles as insurance is amazing and we obviously saw how valuable that is. To say though that Keenum is better is laughable.

    Thinking Foles is just a fluke because he had only “2 good postseason games” is just a lack of understanding or football knowledge. Foles isn’t a fluke, he just excels in an RPO based offense. That is his comfort zone and when he is comfortable and allowed to open up, he makes plays and he doesn’t fear throwing deep. Keenum may do well in an RPO too, but I still don’t think he would do better than Foles, because Keenum doesn’t have the accuracy nor arm like Foles does, and even though the RPO helps Foles a lot, a lot of his success comes from throwing the ball deep. Neither would Bridgewater because you make the common mistake a lot of people make in thinking a mobile QB would be better in an RPO, or at least the Eagles version of RPO, than a non mobile QB. Vick wasn’t even as good as Foles in this system, and this system with Wentz wasn’t as reliant on the RPO as it is with Foles and when they ran RPOs with Wentz, they were never options designed for Wentz to run. When Wentz ran it was when the plays broke down and had nothing to do with the RPO. Mobility for a QB has no real factor in the Eagles version of the RPO.

    As for his supporting cast, yes….. He has had a good O-line, WRs and RBs. Isn’t that the point of every team? Also, don’t the Vikings have good WRs and RBs as well? Even a decent O-line? I remember all the trash talk from Vikings fans leading up to the game boasting how their RBs and WRs were better….. Oh, and their QB. Is that not true now because you don’t want Foles so you are shooting your own team in the foot in spite of it? I mean, I get wanting a QB that can excel without having a great supporting cast, but you don’t really have that luxury. Them QBs rarely become available. Cousins is good, but his O-line is probably better than the Eagles. He’s had weapons in the past and while his supporting cast did get worse this year, it is exaggerated how bad his supporting cast was. Chris Thompson is one of the best pass catching backs in the NFL. He is similar to a Sproles type player, and they have essentially the same offense as last year. They lost Pierre Garcon and DeSean Jackson and replaced them with Terrell Pryor and Brian Quick, but other than that, their offense stayed the same. Yeah, both Pryor and Quick busted but whose fault is that? You mean to tell me Pryor can do better on the Browns with whatever crap QB they are throwing out there? Quick did better with the Rams under crappy Jeff Fisher with a rookie Goff that looked like a bust at the helm? Pierre Garcon and DeSean Jackson didn’t exactly light up the league on their new teams. So Cousins or bust? Because if your excuse is that Foles needs a great supporting cast, you really don’t have another option besides hope Cousins is that, and I am not sure he really proved that either.

    By the way, getting DeFillippo doesn’t even mean the Vikings will run the RPO. Pederson called the plays, not DeFillippo. Not to mention, like I stated above, the offense wasn’t as reliant on the RPO with Wentz. They became more reliant and focused on running it because Foles excelled at it. If the Vikings did trade for Foles then I can see them running a lot of RPOs, otherwise it will most likely be a WCO with some RPO concepts, which is what Pederson runs and DeFellippo probably learned from him. I am not sure what DeFillippo ran before when he was with the Browns or who he worked under before to learn whatever offense he may run.

  31. LOL! Sure, give the second best team in the conference the only thing they’re missing? Maybe for two first round picks. And that’s just to get us to pick up the phone. I like the Vikings right where they are thank you.

  32. This new OC develops young QBs. Neil Sloter. No-brainer. We retain Teddy on the cheap one more year, while Kyle develops, and then it’s just go, go, go.
    We can spend our money on the OL.

  33. The Vikings should go all in with Cousins. The guy can flat out play and with a decent team win it all. Give him $25 mil per year so the team can stay competitive and win the fricking Super Bowl. Finally.

  34. If the Vikings gave up a 1st and a 4th for Bradford, what is the asking price for Foles? A 1st, a 2nd and a 5th rounder maybe?

    And the sad part is, the Vikings would gladly pay that.

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