Pereira thinks Goodell told Riveron to change his standard on replay reviews

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The NFL appeared to change its standard for overturning calls in instant replay in 2017-2018, with head of officiating Al Riveron seeming to stray away from the “indisputable” standard in the regular season only to return to it in the postseason. One of Riveron’s predecessors believes the commissioner was behind that.

Former NFL head of officiating Mike Pereira said on the Talk of Fame podcast that from his conversations with people around the league, he thinks there were teams complaining to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell about Riveron being too quick to overturn plays on instant replay, and Riveron adjusted accordingly.

“I talk to enough coaches and enough members of the competition committee that they weren’t happy, and so I think the word trickled to Goodell and Goodell probably sat down with Alberto, who he has a great amount of respect for, and just said, ‘Hey, you’ve got to realize you need to make an adjustment. You’re being too technical,'” Pereira said.

The Eagles may have benefited from that change in approach: Corey Clement‘s touchdown catch was a very close call on which he may not have had full possession of the ball with both feet down, but Riveron decided to stay with the call on the field. During the regular season, that might not have been a touchdown.

85 responses to “Pereira thinks Goodell told Riveron to change his standard on replay reviews

  1. ” Corey Clement‘s touchdown catch was a very close call on which he may not have had full possession of the ball with both feet down”

    I didn’t think it was close, and have no idea how that was allowed to stand. He was clearly out the back of the end zone before he completed the catch.

  2. The Clement catch looked very similar to the Brandin Cooks TD catch against Houston this season. The correct call was made if comparing those two catches.

  3. And whats wrong with that?? Overturning calls on the field with replay has gotten outta control. Replay is for overturning calls that are clearly wrong… period. Any other use of replay is unnecessary

  4. I don’t know if that call was right or wrong, very close in any case but this is why the NFL is in shambles. People complain, Goodell reacts, the game changes. At least Polian waited for the off season to get his changes incorporated. Goodell will ruin the sport if he continues much longer to preside over it.

  5. lyfordjr says:
    February 12, 2018 at 1:07 pm
    ” Corey Clement‘s touchdown catch was a very close call on which he may not have had full possession of the ball with both feet down”

    I didn’t think it was close, and have no idea how that was allowed to stand. He was clearly out the back of the end zone before he completed the catch.
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    I’m biased, but Seratore was heard on the field saying he agreed with it. The ball moved but he still had control with two feet down before the last foot going out. Either way it was close and there wasn’t enough to overturn.

  6. If it’s called a TD ON THE FIELD you need to be 100% sure it wasn’t to overturn it. Thats what this “official” Al Riverton got wrong all year.
    He needs to go clean the toilets at NFL films or something. BYE !!

  7. Point being that NFL officiating is forever changing. The Clements TD call had been called earlier in the year as incomplete on numerous occasions for many players. If the ball moved, even slightly prior to and even after going out of bounds, it was considered incomplete. The other interesting officiating trend is to “let them play”, when calling players for penalties in the off season. If an offensive lineman is called for holding in week one, why is he not called for the same infraction in the playoffs?

    How do you make sure that a playoff game with unseasoned QBs is high scoring? You don’t call holding on the O line. How many such penalties were called in the super Bowl and the playoff games compared to the regular season? That is the subtle way that Goodell makes sure that the NFL playoffs and Super Bowl go the way he wants them to.

  8. Whatever he told them was correct. Both of those were catches and touchdowns. I didnt have a dog in the superbowl so i could care less either way. But there was no way that you could have called either of those non catches or non touchdowns.

  9. Well, let’s hope that this is a return (?) to sanity in NFL officiating. No call on the field should be reversed, or a penalty called for that matter, unless the call was blatantly wrong, or the penalty was obvious enough for anyone to see. Let the players play, and the fans be free of checking for a yellow flag every time their team makes a big play.

  10. The issue was and is consistency. You cannot call it one way all year, and then change it before the Super Bowl. Say what you want about earlier calls, but we had an established set of parameters for the 2017 season. The fact that they failed to apply that same set for the playoffs is a joke. People in Philadelphia have been hating on Collinsworth, but he was correct, according to how they called it all season.

  11. “And whats wrong with that?? ”

    The only criticism I would have is they did it one way all season and then changed it for the playoffs. It should have stayed consistent from the regular season through the Super Bowl and if they want to change it, change it in the offseason.

    That said the Eagles won fair and square by playing their hearts out.

  12. then riveron owes me $20. i bet that with a friend on the outcome of clement replay review. using the standard set all year, that should not have been a catch

  13. People on here crying about the TD by Clement…he caught the ball, then secured the ball, it never bobbled. The ball can move…Clement moved the ball purposefully. He never lost control of the ball. Stop the whining. People thought the Pats were going to win, they didn’t, get over it and move on.
    SB LII Champion PHILADELPHIA EAGLES. FLY EAGLES FLY

  14. omeimontis says:
    February 12, 2018 at 1:41 pm

    I think the Zach Ertz TD call was wrong too. Should have been ruled an incomplete pass.
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    Apparently you do not know the rules or understand the game. Ertz cleanly caught the pass, ran 3 steps effectively making him a runner at that point. As soon as the runner crosses the goal line it’s a TD, the ground can’t cause a fumble in that case…it’s a touch down. But just to help you out a little more..the ball popped up in the air after he slammed it onto the ground, he then cleanly caught the ball again.

  15. The problem was magnified on top-tier afternoon (Buck-Aikman, Nantz-Romo), night, and playoff games where more cameras were present. Riveron was breaking plays down to frame-by-frame to see that minuscule flaw that he could use to overturn a call. As is noted in comments above, replay is for the blatant mistake, not for super-slo-mo analysis of whether there is one green blade of FieldTurf between the player’s foot and the white blades of FieldTurf that would indicate he was out of bounds.

    In addition to coaches and the comp committee getting in Goodell’s ear, I wouldn’t be surprised if he heard from the NFLRA as well… officials could have complained the frequent overturning of calls based on minutia was undermining their morale.

  16. rxv5854 says:
    February 12, 2018 at 1:44 pm
    The Bills got robbed against the Patriots on one of those calls this year. We should have lost 37-20 instead of 37-16!

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    Umm, that was not a catch. You need possession with 2 feet down.

  17. rxv5854 says:
    February 12, 2018 at 1:44 pm
    The Bills got robbed against the Patriots on one of those calls this year. We should have lost 37-20 instead of 37-16!
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    Actually that call in the Bills game was correct. He did not have his foot down when he got possession. The Clement catch was much closer and harder to discern so no biggie that it stood (Pats fan here too). Inf act, I’m oddly glad it stood because that was one hell of a play by both Clement and Foles and the difference in the game imo.

  18. Call for consistency throughout the year, both broadcasters said that earlier in the year that would not have been a touchdown.

    I am glad that they called Ertz catch and run a touchdown. That was clearly a case where the receiver caught the ball and ran in (despite both broadcasters saying that it would likely be overturned).

  19. Not a fan of philly or Ne, but anyone that watched football this season saw that play ruled no TD consistently until the SB. My team had a similar TD taken away against the Panthers that could of changed the outcome of the game and even home field advantage. This adds fuel to conspiracy theorist out there.

  20. steelerdeathstar says:
    February 12, 2018 at 1:36 pm
    Well, let’s hope that this is a return (?) to sanity in NFL officiating. No call on the field should be reversed, or a penalty called for that matter, unless the call was blatantly wrong, or the penalty was obvious enough for anyone to see. Let the players play, and the fans be free of checking for a yellow flag every time their team makes a big play.

    Ageed, I couldn’t celebrate 3 of the Eagles td’s in the SB because so many calls get reversed you 100% feel the td most likely will be reversed. It’s nice to be able to celebrate when the official’s arms go up.

  21. dirtyback says:
    February 12, 2018 at 1:08 pm
    The Clement catch looked very similar to the Brandin Cooks TD catch against Houston this season. The correct call was made if comparing those two catches.

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    Umm, it not remotely close. Cooks had 2 feet down and showed possession.

    It was a direct copycat of the Kelvin Benjamin incompletion ruling which was correct.

    Only morons or casual, arrogant fans don’t know the catch rule at this point.

  22. I didn’t care who won the SB…but I did appreciate that the refs seemed to “swallow the whistles” during the whole game.

    It made for a more enjoyable game to watch.

  23. bubbybrister/shovelpass says:
    February 12, 2018 at 2:25 pm
    I didn’t care who won the SB…but I did appreciate that the refs seemed to “swallow the whistles” during the whole game.

    It made for a more enjoyable game to watch.

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    You must be new to the NFL.

    Traditonally, the NFL does not want a lot of flags/controversy, but Goodell invites controversy with his institutionalized cheating.

  24. 283diamonds says:
    February 12, 2018 at 1:59 pm
    Call for consistency throughout the year, both broadcasters said that earlier in the year that would not have been a touchdown.

    I am glad that they called Ertz catch and run a touchdown. That was clearly a case where the receiver caught the ball and ran in (despite both broadcasters saying that it would likely be overturned).
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    Jesse James says Hi.

    Not for nothing but if I’m a Steelrs fan I’m pi$$ed over the Ertz TD. Right or wrong. Just be consistent.

  25. fireroger says:
    February 12, 2018 at 2:42 pm
    283diamonds says:
    February 12, 2018 at 1:59 pm
    Call for consistency throughout the year, both broadcasters said that earlier in the year that would not have been a touchdown.

    I am glad that they called Ertz catch and run a touchdown. That was clearly a case where the receiver caught the ball and ran in (despite both broadcasters saying that it would likely be overturned).
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    Jesse James says Hi.

    Not for nothing but if I’m a Steelrs fan I’m pi$$ed over the Ertz TD. Right or wrong. Just be consistent.

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    Fact 1: James never took steps.

    Fact 2: Ertz took 2 full steps (“football move”).

    One is a catch, one is not.

  26. lyfordjr says:

    ” Corey Clement‘s touchdown catch was a very close call on which he may not have had full possession of the ball with both feet down”

    I didn’t think it was close, and have no idea how that was allowed to stand. He was clearly out the back of the end zone before he completed the catch.
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    Just look at the picture attached to this thread. See the rubber pellets air born from Clement’s right foot? That was the foot that was in question as not being in bounds when he finally grasped the ball. It looked like that toe came down first out of bounds, but one can clearly see here that his toe made contact with the ground in bound.

    Good catch. TD. No questions.

  27. “if I’m a Steelrs fan I’m pi$$ed over the Ertz TD”

    Some similarities, but the plays were not identical. James was clearly going to the ground in the process of making the catch. Ertz had clearly become a running before breaking the plane.

    If I’m a Steelrs fan, I’m pi$$ed over James dropping the ball. And then completely failing to stop Blake Bortles and the Jaguars in the post-bye week home game that the team got anyway…

  28. That Ertz TD was awfully similar to Dez against GB a couple years ago. Since they called incomplete for Dez it should have been the same for Ertz. Funny that Steratore (sp?) was the ref in both of those games.

  29. They need that “clear and obvious” standard or replay totally fails. If the original call is obviously wrong they need to fix it. But the key word is obviously. Only thing worse than the original call being wrong is if the supposedly corrected call via replay is equally suspect. It destroys the credibility of replay if a 50-50 call gets changed.

  30. If you watch any of the NFL Sound FX/Mic’d up shows on the NFL Network, Gene Steratore is mic’d up and you can hear him explain the call. He felt Clement had control the entire time and even though there was some movement, Clement never lost control. Ball movement is fine as long as there is not loss of control.

  31. No they didnt. Go watch the sound fx tape, the refs knew from the second the replay started that they were both catches. They didnt once waiver. They were clear in the announcement they were both catches. If not they would have stated there wasnt enough to overturn like they have a 100 times before.

    The only people who dont think they were clean catches are those who dont know the rules or like Collingsworth and Michaels routing for the Patriots.

    U r allowed to move the ball to your other hand. Which happened. And theres a difference between falling to the ground and launching yourself. You can tell this by asking would ertz dez or james went to the ground if there wasnt a defender. The answer is no for Ertz n yes for james n dez. Which is y his 1 was a catch.

  32. Wish they reviewed the last play of the game when Hogan was shoved down. Would’ve been fun (and correct) for Pats to have been given one more shot at the end zone.

  33. You can’t get any more clear about being an upright runner than the Ertz touchdown, which means it was correctly ruled. The difference is night and day between him and James. It is also distinguished from Dez by the fact that he had his legs under him/balance. Dez may have toe-tapped a couple times (very athletically), but he was off balance falling down the whole time. No problem at all with the Ertz call.

    The Clement was very 50/50 even on replay. But it was definitely something that would have been overruled based on the regular season.

  34. the main point is that both were called touchdowns by the field officials. the league is finally applying a standard that unless there is an obvious and indisputable error, the the play as called will stand. replay was never to re-referee games in super slo, but to fix obvious (hear that fans, obvious) errors.

    and when has anyone seen a p.i. called on a hail mary? sour grapes

  35. “Pereira thinks Goodell told Riveron to change his standard on replay reviews”

    here – let me fix that for you:

    “Goodell told Riveron to start using the standard as written – not his overly stringent interpretation of it.”

    Having said that:

    As a Redskins fan, it pains me to say the ruling was correct – close, but correct. (I’ll also say it’s the kind Riveron would have overturned in the regular season when he was misapplying the standard and overturning plays after a molecular level review – and we were all sick of that)

    Collinsworth sounded like a fool – especially on the Ertz TD. Ertz clearly made a “football move” making him a runner. Al Michaels finally said as much and Collinsworth seemed to get it. For those comparing this to Dez: Dez was falling down, not making a “football move.”

  36. I see from the comments and what calls everyone is dwelling on that most here are viewing this as all about the Patriots. But honestly, I thought the calls that went in the Patriots favor were correctly made. And I also thought the ones that went against them were correctly made too. The only reason any of them got questioned is homers, haters, and excuse makers that did not want to accept the truth. But really, if the Patriots beat your team, they beat your team. Get over it. And if they lost the SB then they lost the SB. Kudos to the Eagles for playing tough and earning it.

    I look forward to next year. Its a great game.

  37. Just because the ball moves doesn’t mean there’s a loss of control. Clement was tucking the ball away in preparation of hitting the ground, and needing to maintain control when he hit the ground. Gene Steratore explains it perfectly on NFL Sound FX show. Players have to be allowed to tuck the ball away in order to secure it before impact. So, of course it’s going to move during that process. But control is not lost at any time and an opponent does not make contact with the ball at any time.

    Catch.

  38. Philly enjoy the gift. Between that call and Malcolm butler sitting this was Christmas in February for the city of Philadelphia.

  39. endtimesparty says:
    February 12, 2018 at 4:03 pm
    Ertz catch good. Clement not so much. Feel free to adjust your history accordingly.

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    I cant adjust something I didnt see. In this case I did not see enough to overturn the call on Clemment’s catch. Believe me I was straining to and trying to find a way to tell myself it was there. But I just didnt see it. And honestly if the on field call had been the other way I still dont think what I saw was enough to change it. (But might have been happier as I reached that conclusion)

  40. Sad that such a great sport has been ruined by all this meddling and micro managing.
    If you win it feels hollow and false. loose and you feel robbed.
    That goes for both fans and players.

  41. Mathew Keen says:
    February 12, 2018 at 3:17 pm
    No they didnt. Go watch the sound fx tape, the refs knew from the second the replay started that they were both catches. They didnt once waiver. They were clear in the announcement they were both catches. If not they would have stated there wasnt enough to overturn like they have a 100 times before.
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    You are incorrect. If there is a questionnaire call and not enough evidence to overturn then the ref will say “the call stands”. If they feel the call was indisputable the they say “the call is CONFIRMED”. Guess what, on the Clement catch review Steratore said ‘the call stands’.

  42. I, for one, know that my favorite part of watching football is the debates every game on what is & isn’t a catch

  43. It wasn’t just in the playoffs. I noticed the last game or two of the regular season, pretty much right after the NE-PIT game, that they weren’t overturning anything that wasn’t 100% definitive.

  44. How do you make sure that a playoff game with unseasoned QBs is high scoring? You don’t call holding on the O line. How many such penalties were called in the super Bowl and the playoff games compared to the regular season? That is the subtle way that Goodell makes sure that the NFL playoffs and Super Bowl go the way he wants them to.
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    There were, by my review of the game logs, 2 enforced holding penalties on the offense on passing plays during the playoffs. It’s the best players, coaches and teams competing, but that’s 2 holding penalties over 11 games.

  45. As a Pats fan I have no quarrel with the calls, although the first one might’ve been different during the regular season. Usually it’s not a good thing to change your protocols just for the biggest game of the year, but the patriots probably quite some breaks going the other way against the Jets in New York and the bills in Foxboro . Eagles outplayed Patriots by just enough. They win.

  46. it’s the inconsistency of how penalties are called and how TDs and catches are ruled, that kills most NFL fans more than anything else. Officiating games differently – week-to-week, crew-to-crew, regular season vs. playoffs vs. Super Bowl – drives everyone nuts.

  47. Birds 41 – Pats 33

    It really gets old listening to Pats fans and other teams talk about this crap. Every team gets their fair share of calls. I don’t care if it is regular season, playoffs or SB. It sucks that a catch rule cannot be made that is easy to apply. If it’s your team you’re going to say great and if not you’re going to think you got ripped off.

    Nobody talks about how Van Noy clearly pushed Clement on the 2 point conversion. Nobody is talking about how Gronk pushed Jalen Mills on the final play of the game about 30 yards downfield. 2 arm shove, no penalty. The refs let them play.

    Instead of all of this let’s talk about controllable things like sportsmanship. Brady shook the hand of his opponents in his 5 Superbowl wins. He did not in his 3 super bowl losses.

  48. The inherent problem in addressing TD replay review remains unaddressed but it’s the 800 lb gorilla in the room, anything close gets called a TD. Officials almost always err on the side of calling anything close a TD knowing all TDs are subject to review. As a result we have seen far too many questionable plays called a TD and then the officials head right to the sideline for review. It’s human nature to err on the side of caution and in this case since they know if the call is wrong replay should reverse it, review = caution. So thanks to automatic replay the whole ‘ruling on the field’ concept is compromised from the outset. Without the concept of automatic replay review instilled in the officials head would that have been ruled a TD? All season long that TD gets overturned but that doesn’t mean it should have been anymore than it should have been automatically called a TD. It was bang bang and I would have been fine with the call either way. Ertz’s TD was good and nothing like the James catch, Ertz was a runner at that point.

  49. The Pats got jobbed on the Clements score; the ball could only have became secure after the last time the left foot was inbounds. I have been watching that replay over and over as it was excerpted on the Cowherd show last Monday. It was not secure in time.

    They may have gotten jobbed on the Ertz score but not so much. But the Steelers have the only legit beef – and yet the Jesse James call by his own admission was right by the rules. The Steelers got the ‘both feet in’ call in the end zone when they beat the Cardinals in SB with about 35 seconds to go. So they really have nothing historically to cry about.

    NE coaches those with the ball to assure possession and forget about reaching – except when being short of a line of gain is worth the extension.

    Had Brady not fumbled, the jig for the ‘all fun’ Eagles was up – and they knew it.

    On the 4th down at their 45, down a point, the Eagles did a perfect pick play to spring Ertz for a 2-yd gain. Yes, the whistles were swallowed for portions of the game – about half of it. No risk to a pick play on 4th – if called, try it again. But intentional defensive penalties as the clock winds down are flagged.

    I have an IQ of 140 and I cannot figure out the application of the rules

  50. The bottom line is that Riveron was too scared to correctly reverse another call that would have favored the Patriots, and as such, he is unfit for the job.

  51. johnwaldron8 says:
    February 12, 2018 at 5:08 pm
    How do you make sure that a playoff game with unseasoned QBs is high scoring? You don’t call holding on the O line. How many such penalties were called in the super Bowl and the playoff games compared to the regular season? That is the subtle way that Goodell makes sure that the NFL playoffs and Super Bowl go the way he wants them to.
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    There were, by my review of the game logs, 2 enforced holding penalties on the offense on passing plays during the playoffs. It’s the best players, coaches and teams competing, but that’s 2 holding penalties over 11 games.

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    Exactly.

  52. Peirra and the announcing is what is wrong with the league right now. Everything is an opinion. Listen very carefully to Steratore, he said clear control all the way through. That is his opinion and that is all that matters. The Ertz one was pure homerism by Chris Collingsworth. Ertz caught the ball at the six yard line, ran three steps and lunged into the end zone. Clear TD. Clement was much closer but all he did was tuck it further into his arm which is not a movement, I think that one could have went either way but the call on the field was TD so they should stay with that. If it was called incomplete on the field then stay with that.

  53. So, two Eagles touchdowns woukd have been called back if replay was applied consistently and an illegal formation was called.

    The word was out; they placated Patriots fatigue. Pereira would never imply this if it wasn’t obvious.

  54. Eagles fan here. I can honestly say I thought the Clement play would be overturned but had no doubt the Ertz play was indeed a TD. The refs did indeed let the players play. There were calls on both sides that could have been called. The defender did indeed interfere with hogan which should have been a 5 yard penalty and another Hail Mary since the penalty happened before Brady released the ball. The push early on Clement during 2pt conversion I have no qualms with not being called. I did notice a pass interference committed against Jeffries on the interception play. His left hand was held down so he tried to catch with one arm then got control of his left again and batted it to the pats player. Again, had no problem with that not being called. I loved how for the most part they let the players play and let the calls on the field stand. It was an amazing game and we were just lucky enough to make ONE defensive play that got us the strip sack. Both defenses were cr@p after the first until that play. That being said Eagles didn’t get lucky. They won the game. Any patriots fan that cries about the game should remember the raiders “tuck” rule game. I’ve noticed MANY educated and sensible patriots fans giving credit and knowing that some days they got the 50/50 calls they didn’t get on the Clement play. My hats off to the fans I just described and to your spectacular run of dominance in a league that “prides” itself on parity!!

  55. “atthemurph says:
    February 12, 2018 at 2:46 pm

    Just look at the picture attached to this thread. See the rubber pellets air born from Clement’s right foot? That was the foot that was in question as not being in bounds when he finally grasped the ball.”

    I think you should take your own advice and look at the picture in this thread. Clement has exactly ZERO hands on the ball in this picture. And a foot out of bounds. No catch.

  56. i dont see what the big deal is here. if the commish wants to unalateraly change the rules he has that power. the lot of you needs to stop criticising, show some respect, and protect the sheild!

  57. Looked like a catch to me followed by securing of the ball in his left arm, ie tucked away. I think it was the correct call, regardless of other calls made this year.

  58. Knocking a player out with a helmet to helmet hit is not a penalty. This league has both concussion and rule problems. Zero tolerance for hits to the head.

  59. Hi Def Replay has the ability to “Split Hairs” in a game that wasn’t designed for splitting hair decisions. In some of these plays that got overturned was because of them being too technical. The fans are getting tired of that act. All you have to do is look at comments after a game where a replay overturns a key play.
    It’s not good for business.

  60. Ertz caught the ball at the 6 yard line and took a few steps before diving for the end zone. If that’s not a TD, then football is meaningless. There is no comparison with the Jesse James call.

  61. Hat Trick says:
    February 12, 2018 at 7:26 pm
    Eagles fan here. I can honestly say I thought the Clement play would be overturned but had no doubt the Ertz play was indeed a TD. The refs did indeed let the players play. There were calls on both sides that could have been called. The defender did indeed interfere with hogan which should have been a 5 yard penalty and another Hail Mary since the penalty happened before Brady released the ball. The push early on Clement during 2pt conversion I have no qualms with not being called. I did notice a pass interference committed against Jeffries on the interception play. His left hand was held down so he tried to catch with one arm then got control of his left again and batted it to the pats player. Again, had no problem with that not being called. I loved how for the most part they let the players play and let the calls on the field stand. It was an amazing game and we were just lucky enough to make ONE defensive play that got us the strip sack. Both defenses were cr@p after the first until that play. That being said Eagles didn’t get lucky. They won the game. Any patriots fan that cries about the game should remember the raiders “tuck” rule game. I’ve noticed MANY educated and sensible patriots fans giving credit and knowing that some days they got the 50/50 calls they didn’t get on the Clement play. My hats off to the fans I just described and to your spectacular run of dominance in a league that “prides” itself on parity!!

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    No crying, they even got the calls right IMHO. As much as I wanted to see the Clements catch overturned I agree there was not evidence to do that with. Im sure not everyone agrees with me but thats what I think I saw (or in this case couldnt see no matter how hard I tried). So you guys beat us fair and square. Good jobgetting the championship. You earned it by simply outplaying us by that tiny bit it took. And such is football it was still a great game even if it didnt end how I wanted. Patriot fans are well aware we cant win all of them and we do still have the comfort of knowing we will be right back here contending for it every year, its not like that was our only chance, quite the opposite. Party on Philly, you deserved it and I have been enjoying seeing you guys rock your parade.

    Speaking of getting calls right the call on Jame’s non catch in Pittsburgh was correct too. Thats just the Pittsburgh excuse machine trying to say otherwise. But that was just their excuse making warm up. That they would then weeks later using that call call weeks before the playoffs as their excuse for getting bounced out of the playoffs by a different team is sheer creativity. They got beat by the Jaguars but to hear them crying you would think it was all about the Patriots. So Pittsburgh gets the most creative crying award.

    But you mention the Tuck rule call. And that is why the award for most determined crying goes to Oakland. Because they still cry about a correct officiating call (yes kids, the tuck rulle was the refs making the right call, its just that some cant face that reality) 17 years after it happened. They use a call from 17 years ago, and not a game ender either, they still had to let the Patriots score twice to lose that, to explain why they have not amounted to anything ever since. Thats determination.

    Patriot fans on the ither hand accept the loss and move on. Refs did their job and so did the Eagles. If there is anyone to blame for our loss its us. We will work on that.

  62. The fact that anyone really thinks there was any doubt those were catches by ANY standard is pathetic.
    Yes the wrong team won. Too many Pats fans wrote checks their team couldn’t cash and now they and the media are trying to stir up controversy where there should be none all in an effort to find an excuse.
    Suck it up, the Eagles won, they beat the invincible Patriots and the genius got outcoached by a second year coach.
    Enough with the sour grapes!

  63. I’ve always thought if it’s a close call and they are not sure the refs will call TD. That way replay will correct them if they’re wrong without getting into problems with coaches having no challenges, either at the time or later on in the game. During the regular season if there was ANY doubt the TD would be overturned, it looks like in the play offs it returned to irrefutable evidence. The Clement TD had doubt but it wasn’t irrefutable so they had to go with the call on the field. By the way even if the catch rule is changed you will still have instances like Clements with the possession, two foot down situation that will divide opinion like it has here.

  64. I’m sick of listening to Al Pereira knock refs. Who died and made and made him a guru? He really must be hated by his former colleagues, all he does is throw them under the bus. All for an extra buck to supplement his income, sickening.

  65. I’ve been watching the nfl for over 30 years and until Calvin johnsons td I always thought I knew what a catch was. The problem is the league started to overthink what is a catch. Johnsons was, Dez Bryant was, and both the Eagles catches were also.

  66. As a Patriots fan, that call was fair. Default to the call on the field unless there is clear evidence to overturn. Would have liked it to be overturned, but it looked like he may have possessed it with two feet down before the bobble. Therefore the catch was complete and he just had to come down with it, which he did. It wasn’t clear enough to overturn.

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