Eagles may go without an offensive coordinator in 2018

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The Eagles lost offensive coordinator Frank Reich to the top job in Indianapolis, but they may decide not to replace him.

Philadelphia currently has no plans to hire an offensive coordinator to take Reich’s place, Ian Rapoport of NFL Network reports. Instead, running backs coach Duce Staley and wide receivers coach Mike Groh may get more responsibilities in planning the offense but not a promotion to a coordinator role.

Eagles head coach Doug Pederson prefers to call the plays himself, so the Eagles don’t necessarily need an offensive coordinator. And bringing in someone from the outside to change a Super Bowl-winning offense wouldn’t make a lot of sense.

So despite losing both Reich and quarterbacks coach John DeFilippo, the Eagles’ offense likely won’t be undergoing any significant changes.

94 responses to “Eagles may go without an offensive coordinator in 2018

  1. I think this is also probably a fairness move by the team, showing neither Duce nor Groh any favoritism. Promoting one and not the other could alienate the guy not promoted. This way, the offense maintains a status quo and the two position coaches don’t get egos hurt (some sort of pay raise for both is likely in order, despite the lack of title change).

  2. So They didn’t like DeFilippo enough to promote him to OC and they don’t think they need anyone to fill the void left by Reich. Seems like the Vikings and Colts just got bamboozled.

  3. Having one less intelligent person in the room IS a change to a SB winning team.

    Pederson didn’t bounce off his opinions on Reich? I find that hard to believe for a now an obviously very good to great coach but an inexperienced one.

    Promote someone and find someone to for their vacant spot.

  4. A head coach calling all the plays,- Hue Jackson and many others, it usually doesn’t work out !!!

  5. “Bad decision, instead of flying like an eagle you’ll be dropping like a fly.”
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    That one all you or did you have help coming up with that zinger?

  6. bernieknowsfootball says:
    February 13, 2018 at 1:16 pm
    A head coach calling all the plays,- Hue Jackson and many others, it usually doesn’t work out !!!

    Yea good point I doubt this team will ever win a superbowl with Doug calling all the pl…. oh wait

  7. dangguy says:
    February 13, 2018 at 1:16 pm
    Bad decision, instead of flying like an eagle you’ll be dropping like a fly.

    bernieknowsfootball says:
    February 13, 2018 at 1:16 pm
    A head coach calling all the plays,- Hue Jackson and many others, it usually doesn’t work out !!!
    THEY JUST WON THE SUPERBOWL WITH PEDERSON CALLING ALL THE PLAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  8. A head coach calling all the plays doesn’t work out unless you’re Doug Pederson… and then it works out just fine and you win a Super Bowl doing it.

    Pederson, Wentz, Foles, and Reich have all said all year long that they get along great and collaborate very well together. Reich speaks of Pederson with tremendous esteem… my perspective is this year’s Eagles Offense is largely Pederson’s pet, but he’s still an Inclusive coach. I hope he can coach up Groh and Staley… both are highly-respected Assistants in this league.

  9. Read Peter King’s post-SB article on the Eagles playoff offensive game planning if you don’t think Pederson needs an OC.

  10. bernieknowsfootball says:
    February 13, 2018 at 1:16 pm

    A head coach calling all the plays,- Hue Jackson and many others, it usually doesn’t work out !!!

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    Ummm – Pederson called all the plays THIS season. Seemed to work out OK. Might be time to change your name.

  11. cheapseater says:
    February 13, 2018 at 1:15 pm
    So They didn’t like DeFilippo enough to promote him to OC and they don’t think they need anyone to fill the void left by Reich. Seems like the Vikings and Colts just got bamboozled.

    = = = = = = =

    DeFilippo left before Reich so they never had a chance, plus DeFilippo made it clear he wanted to call plays which he wasn’t going to get to do in Philly.

  12. dangguy says:
    February 13, 2018 at 1:16 pm
    Bad decision, instead of flying like an eagle you’ll be dropping like a fly.

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    You should tell that to Sean Mcvay and his #1 scoring offense.

    If the surrounding talent is good enough, you can get by without an OC

  13. They will also go without a SB appearance.

    You can beat Tom Brady, but that doesn’t make you Tom Brady.
    You can beat the Patriots, but that doesn’t make you the Patriots.
    You can get to the SB and even win it, but that doesn’t mean you can return.

    Unless you’re the Patriots.

  14. DeFilippo’s contract had expired and he took the Vikings’ OC job BEFORE Reich took the Colts’ HC job. Plus, DeFilippo gets to call the plays with the Vikes, sonmthing he would not do with the Eagles. So those who have said the Eagles did not want DeFilippo to stay are missing these points.

  15. envybreedsidiocy says:
    February 13, 2018 at 1:32 pm
    They will also go without a SB appearance.

    You can beat Tom Brady, but that doesn’t make you Tom Brady.
    You can beat the Patriots, but that doesn’t make you the Patriots.
    You can get to the SB and even win it, but that doesn’t mean you can return.

    Unless you’re the Patriots.

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    This would make some sense except nobody cares about the super bowl loser. In this case that would be ummmmmm oh yea the patriots.

  16. So you win your first SB ever by only 8 pts and now you think you can return with one less coach?

    Pride goeth before the fall.

  17. Flukeadelphia will go back to where they belong next year. Illegal formations, benched starting CB’s, and a TD catch that wasn’t equals the luckiest SB win in the history of the NFL.

  18. Uh oh. If I followed the logic of everyone posting about the Giants new OC hire, I would assume that the Eagles wouldn’t have an offense next season. Wentz would just call the huddle and stand there until the play clock expired. Bold move, Eagles.

  19. Youknowimright says:
    February 13, 2018 at 1:41 pm

    Flukeadelphia will go back to where they belong next year. Illegal formations, benched starting CB’s, and a TD catch that wasn’t equals the luckiest SB win in the history of the NFL.

    so their whole season was a fluke, gotcha..the refs at the SB didn’t think it was illegal even after repeatedly being asked by Alshon

  20. Sounds like a recipe for disaster because of a Narcissist Head Coach.
    It might work until the Eagles get behind in the first half of games and adjustments need to be made on both sides and on the fly decisions need made during a game. Then again Eagles fans are as bad as their Coach!

  21. Youknowimright says:
    February 13, 2018 at 1:41 pm
    Flukeadelphia will go back to where they belong next year. Illegal formations, benched starting CB’s, and a TD catch that wasn’t equals the luckiest SB win in the history of the NFL.
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    Sometimes a commenter makes so many belligerent, nonsensical posts about one team that his bias becomes obvious and his “opinions” irrelevant. You crossed that line a long, long time ago.

  22. envybreedsidiocy says:
    February 13, 2018 at 1:32 pm
    They will also go without a SB appearance.

    You can beat Tom Brady, but that doesn’t make you Tom Brady.
    You can beat the Patriots, but that doesn’t make you the Patriots.
    You can get to the SB and even win it, but that doesn’t mean you can return.

    Unless you’re the Patriots.
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    Posts like this one are the reason most people hate Patriot fans. Your team lost. Deal with it! With a 40-year old QB and a weak Defense, you’ll need to learn how to deal with losing for many years to come.

  23. “So They didn’t like DeFilippo enough to promote him to OC and they don’t think they need anyone to fill the void left by Reich.”

    If Reich would have been the first one to accept another job, they would have promoted DeFilippo. Unfortunately, it happened the other way around.

  24. bernieknowsfootball says:

    February 13, 2018 at 1:16 pm

    A head coach calling all the plays,- Hue Jackson and many others, it usually doesn’t work out !!!

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    I guess Bernie doesn’t know football – Pederson called the plays.

  25. How did that goofy idiot win a super bowl? Talk to pederson for more then 30 seconds and you come away more convinced that he has been propped up by solid depth on his roster and knowledgeable assistants that had a major role in game planning rather than actually what the perception is now that he has won a super bowl. The two assistants leaving will be a deathblow to pederson if he can’t find a way to replace that knowledge. My guess is that goofy idiot will overevalue himself and get ran through next year.

  26. In other words, the Philthy team didn’t have an offensive coordinator so Reich’s credentials are now overstated and the Putz Pederson was calling the plays anyway.

  27. envybreedsidiocy says:

    You can beat Tom Brady, but that doesn’t make you Tom Brady.

    You mean, just cuz you you shoot Jesse James, that doesn’t make you Jesse James?
    True, but it doesn’t make you Bob Ford either.

  28. This is a strange decision, but to me this has more to do with the way the NFL functions than anything else. I find it absurd that teams out of the playoffs can start preparing for the next season through making hires etc, yet teams still active generally have to wait.

    If the season ends ten days after the Super Bowl, then that should be when teams are allowed to start interviewing new coaches – regardless if they have been terminated, coming from a college team, or soon to be out of contract. I would even go so far as to say that prior to the playoffs, the latest an external coaching change can take place is in week 16. As soon as week 17 preparation starts, then teams can fire coaches, potentially promote from within, but any interview for an external hire waits until the NFL season is officially over.

    I don’t support the Eagles, and in fact my team just hired DeFilippo, but that doesn’t make it right.

  29. “So despite losing both Reich and quarterbacks coach John DeFilippo, the Eagles’ offense likely won’t be undergoing any significant changes.”

    Except they’re about to bench the QB that actually won them the Superbowl…And changing “a Super Bowl-winning offense wouldn’t make a lot of sense.” <– your words, not mine…

  30. As 5 time Super Bowl champs, the 49ers know very well that besides losing players to free agency, we also lose assistant coaches, who get promoted to head coaches by other teams.

  31. bernieknowsfootball says:
    February 13, 2018 at 1:16 pm
    A head coach calling all the plays,- Hue Jackson and many others, it usually doesn’t work out !!!

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    You do realize that Pederson called the plays all season. Seems to have worked out.

  32. steves11 says:
    February 13, 2018 at 1:53 pm
    “So They didn’t like DeFilippo enough to promote him to OC and they don’t think they need anyone to fill the void left by Reich.”

    If Reich would have been the first one to accept another job, they would have promoted DeFilippo. Unfortunately, it happened the other way around.
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    Not sure thats the case. They love Flip but Pederson was not giving up play calling duties and really the best way for an OC to get to be a HC is by calling the plays with success. Flip left to Minnesota to do just that. Probably a quick stepping stone to a HC job.

  33. sportoficionado says:

    February 13, 2018 at 1:57 pm

    How did that goofy idiot win a super bowl? Talk to pederson for more then 30 seconds and you come away more convinced that he has been propped up by solid depth on his roster and knowledgeable assistants that had a major role in game planning rather than actually what the perception is now that he has won a super bowl. The two assistants leaving will be a deathblow to pederson if he can’t find a way to replace that knowledge. My guess is that goofy idiot will overevalue himself and get ran through next year.
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    So let me get this right, you had no idea that Pederson calls his own plays yet you consider yourself an aficionado, of what exactly because its clearly not football. The two assistants were good and the collaboration worked out well…..you can keep everyone and the Eagles unlike the Vikings do not stand in the way of their coaches taking on larger roles with other teams when they are afforded the chance. I call that classy; could it bite them in the rear end? Absolutely but I would nit count on it sir.

  34. I am a bit disappointed in this article. Being a coordinator is way more than simply calling the plays. Even if the coordinator does not call the plays, he is extremely instrumental in gameplanning. He basically puts together the plays that the head coach is calling.

    And I do not agree with the assessment “I do not want to hurt anyone’s feelings so I won’t promote either.” Since when did professional football worry about hurting anyone’s feelings? Come on… Duce Staley paid his dues as a player and an assistant coach. I love Duce and I want him to stay with the Eagles but if this is how it is, then I hope Duce follows Frank Reich to Indy as his OC.

  35. I would at least make another hire. There will be things that pop up weekly that the OC did that they aren’t thinking of.

  36. The Cowboys have the clapper. The Redskins have Jon’s little brother. I don’t know what Shurmur is yet, but i’m pretty sure he is the 2nd best coach in the division already. I think i’m okay with Super Bowl winning Doug Pedersen’s decision making skills heading into next year.

  37. purpleguy says:
    February 13, 2018 at 1:28 pm
    Read Peter King’s post-SB article on the Eagles playoff offensive game planning if you don’t think Pederson needs an OC.

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    If that’s what you took from that article, then you missed its point. The point wasn’t that Doug needs an OC, it was that he sees running the offense as a collaborative venture that extends all the way down to the position coaches. He puts trust in his guys while ultimately making the final in-game decisions. That can still happen if this is the new configuration going forward. The previous arrangement always felt a little top heavy to me, anyway.

  38. kennylc2015 says:
    February 13, 2018 at 2:36 pm
    I am a bit disappointed in this article. Being a coordinator is way more than simply calling the plays. Even if the coordinator does not call the plays, he is extremely instrumental in gameplanning. He basically puts together the plays that the head coach is calling.

    And I do not agree with the assessment “I do not want to hurt anyone’s feelings so I won’t promote either.” Since when did professional football worry about hurting anyone’s feelings? Come on… Duce Staley paid his dues as a player and an assistant coach. I love Duce and I want him to stay with the Eagles but if this is how it is, then I hope Duce follows Frank Reich to Indy as his OC.
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    Duce isn’t going anywhere..he’s under contract and Indy hired their OC last night.

  39. cmonitsfunny says:
    February 13, 2018 at 1:57 pm
    jjackwagon says:
    So you win your first SB ever by only 8 pts and now you think you can return with one less coach?

    NE never won one by 8 points
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    Yeah…and?

    Oh I know, AND the Pats never went into the next season without an OC, AND the Pats have four more rings than Dougie P. But yeah, he knows it all, let’s do it his way. SMDH.

  40. Wouldn’t be the end of the world if they did it, Pederson’s a good play caller. From my perspective it’d be better for the team as a whole is he handed off those duties to an OC so he get be involved everywhere equally but whatever floats his boat.

  41. Hard to say whether this is a good move or not. Look at Atlanta last year. Brought in a new OC and their offense dropped in effectiveness after losing Shanahan.

    Eagles had Pederson calling plays last year, and with the assistant coaches who worked under Reich having more input in the system they know, it may well be better not to bring in a new OC.

    Only time will tell but its hard to criticize this if you look objectively at it.

  42. I said before they were resoectiveky hired that losing the two coaches would not be a big loss for Philadelphia. it’s Pederson’s show.

    cheapseater says:
    February 13, 2018 at 1:15 pm
    So They didn’t like DeFilippo enough to promote him to OC and they don’t think they need anyone to fill the void left by Reich. Seems like the Vikings and Colts just got bamboozled.

  43. This doesn’t seem out of line with the way teams are trending in the coordinator ranks. Many teams now having a “run game coordinator” and a “pass game coordinator” with either an OC calling the plays or the HC calling the plays. Beyond that, as great as the entire team and the coaching staff performed this season, I suspect they may all be “on the same page” or “of the same mind” to the point that nothing is really going to change. These guys may all be in such perfect sync that they’re pretty much interchangeable with each other.

  44. cmonitsfunny says:
    February 13, 2018 at 1:57 pm
    jjackwagon says:
    So you win your first SB ever by only 8 pts and now you think you can return with one less coach?

    NE never won one by 8 points

    It doesn’t matter how much you win it by. It matters that you won.

    I never understood why this is even a point worth making. It’s hard to even get to a Super Bowl, much less win one against the other team that made it there.

    Same thing for all other sports – they don’t care about that at all.

  45. if the head coach is an offensive minded coach, then losing an offensive coordinator after winning the Super Bowl won’t make much difference, but if the head coach is a defensive coach, then it can mean the offense will suffer a lot the next season. 49ers won their last super bowl when they had Mike Shanahan as OC, but he got hired away by Denver as their head coach the next season. The 49ers has not won a super bowl since then as they keep alternating between hiring a coach who is offensive minded and defensive minded. Either the offense suffers or the defense suffers during those years. Bill Walsh had some good defensive coordinators working for him while he took care of the offense.

  46. Somebody better check 2005 and maybe a couple of more seasons when the Pats didn’t name an OC going into the season, but you guys are such super fans, I’m sure you knew that!!!!!

  47. … The two assistants were good and the collaboration worked out well…..you can keep everyone and the Eagles unlike the Vikings do not stand in the way of their coaches taking on larger roles with other teams when they are afforded the chance. I call that classy…

    The Eagles blocked Flip from interviewing for an OC job last year. This year they could not because his contract was expiring. Not such a classy organization after all I guess.

  48. tylawspick6 says:
    February 13, 2018 at 2:57 pm
    Love that arrogance.

    They’ll miss the playoffs.
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    You do realize that your beloved Belichick did the same thing after McDaniels left to be HC of the Broncos. The Patriots didn’t have an Offensive Coordinator for 2009 & 2010. He finally named Bill O’Brien O Coordinator/QB Coach in 2011. The next year O’Brien left for Penn St. and McDaniels came back as O Coordinator.

  49. “bradygirl12 says:
    February 13, 2018 at 2:37 pm

    I’d hate to be an Eagle when they get brought back down to earth.”

    You’d hate to be a Super Bowl champion but instead choose to be a jealous fan girl? Weird.

  50. Eagles win 1 super bowl in 52 years, and now they’re the experts…yesh. What they should worry about is their defense that stunk up the field (4o year old qb threw like 600 yards on them), nobody will be scared of that D next year!!

  51. “What they should worry about is their defense that stunk up the field (4o year old qb threw like 600 yards on them), nobody will be scared of that D next year!!”

    Good point about the defense, but what does that say about the Patriots’ defense? The 40-year-old QB threw for all of those yards and they still lost.

  52. It doesn’t matter how much you win it by. It matters that you won.

    I never understood why this is even a point worth making. It’s hard to even get to a Super Bowl, much less win one against the other team that made it there.

    Same thing for all other sports – they don’t care about that at all.

    ************

    It matters when you cheat… and since you got caught you’re fake team should really be 0-5 in super bowls
    FACT!!!

  53. tylawspick6 says:
    February 13, 2018 at 2:57 pm
    Love that arrogance.

    They’ll miss the playoffs.

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    Who won the big game ? AFC is the much weaker conference , you guys since you got caught cheating, should be 0-5 in super bowls!! 0-3 against the NFC east since!!

  54. Good point about the defense, but what does that say about the Patriots’ defense? The 40-year-old QB threw for all of those yards and they still lost.
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    Well we’re discussing the eagles being this “new” dominate team with a defense that was exposed. I’m not a Patriots fan, and the eagle have to get out of the NFC to get back not the AFC. You have to admit a lot of those eagle td’s, were reminiscent of Flaco flinging the ball up for grabs…

  55. steelcurtainn says:
    February 13, 2018 at 3:56 pm
    The eagles didn’t need a coordinator to beat the pats.

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    You know it’s a looong offseason for Steelers fans when you see desperate attempts at getting attention like these.

    The Steelers haven’t beaten the Pats in a meaningful game since dinosaurs roamed the Earth, but you feel the need to have the Eagles back now?

    Kinda sad.

  56. cobrala2 says:

    February 13, 2018 at 1:28 pm

    A head coach calling all the plays doesn’t work out unless you’re Doug Pederson… and then it works out just fine and you win a Super Bowl doing it.
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    I believe both Sean Payton and Mike McCarthy did it in 2009 and 2010.

  57. @ts1960 says:

    What they really need is a defensive coach. They stunk up the joint in the SB.
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    The defense is fine:
    Atlanta: 10 points
    Vikings: 7 points
    Superbowl: 33 points, however…there were huge stops on 3rd down to force field goal attempts. Oh and then there’s the STRIP SACK to seal the deal.

  58. Acting as if the only responsibility of the OC is to call plays is naïve at best and borders more closely to ignorant. Doug Pederson may be biting off more than he can chew here. Add to that he is heaping more responsibility onto other coaches as well (you know, the ones he doesn’t have enough confidence in to give the job to), and you have a recipe for things starting to fall through the cracks which leads to lost opportunities. Obviously this won’t turn the Eagles into a bad or mediocre team. But, it reeks over overconfidence and short-sightedness.

  59. All this rubbish about the Eagles landing hard and having a few years of no success is simply stupid! Who cares? I support the Vikings and I’d happily go a few years with no success if it was following a Super Bowl win!

  60. @govchris says:

    … The two assistants were good and the collaboration worked out well…..you can keep everyone and the Eagles unlike the Vikings do not stand in the way of their coaches taking on larger roles with other teams when they are afforded the chance. I call that classy…

    The Eagles blocked Flip from interviewing for an OC job last year. This year they could not because his contract was expiring. Not such a classy organization after all I guess.
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    Be like the Vikings and blow an opportunity to be the first team to play the SB on its home field by getting obliterated by Philly in the NFCC…no thanks. We’re fine as we are.

    And genius, teams have the right to block coaches who are under contract. Enjoy DeFilippo and hope he can work miracles for one of your 3 back-up QBs. Oh wait, you don’t have any QBs under contract. By the way, thanks for the 1st round pick who ended up sealing the SB by recovering a fumble!!!

  61. Just give Duce the OC title. We all know who is running the offense and calling the plays. As you can see having the title of OC is way more important then calling the plays. Reich (Chargers) and Flip (Browns) only had one season of OC duties that involved play calling and it paid off for them.

  62. Reich did a lot of the offensive schemes & game-planning. Pederson may be sharp in that regard as well, but at what point does he start getting stretched too thin?

    Eagles are a very good team, but losing key coaches, going from last-place to first-place schedules, being in a division that should be a bit stronger across the board, and getting extra study from every other conference challenger, and the perpetual hardship of a team returning to the SB – these are not insignificant obstacles.

  63. jjackwagon says:
    February 13, 2018 at 3:11 pm
    cmonitsfunny says:
    February 13, 2018 at 1:57 pm
    jjackwagon says:
    So you win your first SB ever by only 8 pts and now you think you can return with one less coach?

    NE never won one by 8 points
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    Yeah…and?

    Oh I know, AND the Pats never went into the next season without an OC, AND the Pats have four more rings than Dougie P. But yeah, he knows it all, let’s do it his way. SMDH.

    Seriously? THAT was your comeback? It’s pretty weak considering that Philly was a 5 point underdog and beat them by 8. Do the math. Besides it’s all about the here and now. And who is here representing the SB championship currently?

  64. You know it’s a looong offseason for Steelers fans when you see desperate attempts at getting attention like these.
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    It’s a longer season for pats fans. The Steelers didn’t get to the sb and lose. Losing the superbowl is ten times worse then losing in the divisionals. New England and its some of its trash talking fan base had it coming.

  65. The Eagles will probably hire a couple or more additional quality control assistants and grow their coaching staff internally through the years. Notice how Pederson isn’t too overwhelmed with his other duties (ala Reid and Kelly) to assume additional responsibilities with the offense.

  66. vusnu says:
    February 13, 2018 at 10:20 pm
    The Eagles will probably hire a couple or more additional quality control assistants and grow their coaching staff internally through the years. Notice how Pederson isn’t too overwhelmed with his other duties (ala Reid and Kelly) to assume additional responsibilities with the offense.
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    This is what I think as well.

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