Bills “not ready to pull the trigger” on draft trade

AP

Perhaps the two easiest dots to connect in the looming quarterback draft market are between Buffalo and New York.

But Bills General Manager Brandon Beane’s not ready to connect them, at least not yet.

With the Jets trading to the third spot, the Bills would have to go to No. 2 to make sure they get the quarterback they need. That might not be hard since Beane and Giants G.M. Dave Gettleman are close, but Beane said he still doesn’t know enough about the labor pool to make that call, since he and coach Sean McDermott only have a handful of brief combine interviews with the top prospects to go on.

“The truth? Most of these quarterbacks I’ve only spent 15 minutes with,” Beane said, via Peter King of SI.com. “I haven’t spent enough time to have an opinion about any of them yet, honestly. I actually sent a little note to our [scouts] yesterday. We got six weeks to get our board together.

“I am not there yet, knowing if we can or will move up again. I want Sean to get to know all of them. We’re just keeping an open mind. Where we’re at, we’ve got the picks, we’ve got the draft capital. I’m not ready to pull the trigger.”

Honestly, there’s no real rush, as they put their board together with more than a month before they’d have to work. It’s still likely that the Bills will draft a quarterback somewhere, as they have A.J. McCarron and not much else of note.

They need the flexibility of cheap and young quarterbacks because they’re eating so much dead money, as Beane said he’s going to take about $45 million of his cap room to account for deals for guys no longer in Buffalo. It’s a deliberate strategy, as the tries to clear the books for 2019.

73 responses to “Bills “not ready to pull the trigger” on draft trade

  1. The trade up the team has already made makes sense whether it leads to a QB or not. That allows the team to take its shot…or not. Flexibility is always nice to have.

  2. And the Giants won’t ever connect them. They’re drafting their next franchise QB with this pick.

  3. Bills fans deserve something good to happen to them. They’ve had a lot of plain old bad luck.

  4. I have a feeling that AJ McCarron is going to be a good, productive QB for the Bills. No need for Buffalo to reach for anyone in the draft.

  5. Then they should trade some of this years picks for next year picks. Even if it’s ‘near’ equal value, even in reality they are supposed to get a pick in the above round.

    They could then see what they have in McCarron and still have the draft capitol. PLUS, the cap room to shape the roster.

    PS:

    Giants will take Barkley and force the Browns to trade up to get him. It seems beyond obvious the Browns want Darnold and Barkley.

  6. .
    It’s highly unlikely that Gettleman would trade out of the top four. With that said the Bills would have to acquire Cleveland’s #4 before packaging it in a deal for the Giants #2. That would have the three QBs off the board in the first three picks, leaving Gettleman with the best of the rest plus additional choices. The only question for the Giants to answer is, ” Do we want the second best QB in the draft or do we want the best position player and a bevy of future picks? ”
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  7. With McCarron on their roster, they can concentrate on other needs. They can still get a QB later via draft or FA for either depth or a camp arm.

  8. I find it hard to believe they’d trade up if they don’t believe in more than one qb. I’d set up a trade and don’t pull the trigger until they know who the browns will take.

  9. askeddie11 says:
    March 19, 2018 at 9:08 am
    Wow 45 million for dead cap space, talk about a badly
    run franchise.
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    Good thing the old regime is gone and the new guys know what they are doing…Not that you were paying attention or anything…

  10. tylawspick6 says:
    March 19, 2018 at 9:14 am
    I have to lauugh at the over-confidence of this franchise right now. We’ve seen this before.
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    Over confidence or just smart management? McDermott was the first to admit at a recent press conference that the Bills are not as far ahead as many would like to think. I guess Patriot fans think it stinks to have another team in the division with a competent front office unlike years past.

  11. I’d love to see some actual numbers showing that picking a QB in the first handful of picks proves more successful than picking a QB anywhere else in the draft. I bet the difference is marginal and not worth the price.

  12. Sounds like a plan is in place, that’s good to hear for Bills fans. We had the same misery until Reggie took over and did the same thing, clear all the dead money and bad contracts Al Davis left behind and things are looking better.

  13. tylawspick6 says:
    I have to lauugh at the over-confidence of this franchise right now. We’ve seen this before.
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    Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya…

  14. The Browns have never been in play for Barkley. It’s media hype! In 26 years of being in an NFL front office John Dorsey has never drafted a first round running back. The highest RB here’s been involved in drafting was Brandon Jackson in GB. He understands the value of the position in today’s NFL. They signed Hyde and are in the progress of extending Duke Johnson. They are not drafting Barkley and coming 16+ million to the RB position. They will either stay at 4 and take the best defensive player in the draft or tease back if the value is there. The ideal situation would be to fleece the Broncos for a 2nd which comes with the right to draft that 4th QB in front of other QB needy teams, them take that defensive player: Chubb, Fitz, Ward.

  15. From what I’ve heard from friends inside the Giants organization, they would really have to be blown away to trade down, and it would have to be a ridiculous offer for them to trade out of the Top 7. The Giants new regime want one thing out of this draft: a franchise- changing impact player. Whether that is a QB, RB, OL, or DB remains to be seen. I hear they are leaning towards Nelson or Barkley, and feel that Davis Webb has enough potential to get at least a long look this year before they draft an eventual replacement.

  16. I would rather they sit where they are at #12 & #22… Take your Linebacker at 12, a Wide Receiver at 22 and give AJ McCarron some weapons. Top RB on the board in the second and top TE with the other second rounder… Use your bevy of Draft Picks to build up the team and hope McCarron works out… If not, I’m sure there will be more QB’s in 2019’s Draft and a lot less competition for one as well.

  17. They have a hard line to walk here. They’ve dumped a bunch of bloated contracts that has strapped their cash and depleted the roster. So, now they have to decide to use their bounty of picks to infuse the roster with young talent or use it to go up and draft a QB. Based on the Walter draft vale chart it would take both 1st round picks, the top second and the top 3rd pick. Gettleman will want both 2nds.

  18. 3 qb draft. Mayfields not nearly as talented. If the giants don’t take a qb then the Bills will try and trade with Cleveland at 4. No one is moving up that high for Mayfield.

  19. Finally the Bills appear to be coming to their senses! None of these QBs are worth trading multiple 1st and 2nd round picks for which the Bills will need to do if they want to get to number 2. As an Eagles fan I don’t want the Bills doing a stupid trade that will aid the Giants in their rebuild! If I’m Beane I am sending pick number 22 Philadelphia’s way for Nick Foles and keeping the majority of my picks to build my team not the Giants team! Then let Foles and McCarron compete for the top job, (which let’s face it: Foles would win easily).

  20. askeddie11 says:
    March 19, 2018 at 9:08 am
    Wow 45 million for dead cap space, talk about a badly
    run franchise.
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    Partial credit. Formally badly run franchise. Beane decided to cut away all bad contracts during his first year as GM. So yeah it hurts them this year, but we’re scheduled to have over 100M in free cap space in 2019.

  21. chickensalad43 says:
    March 19, 2018 at 9:27 am
    If the Giants weren’t taking a QB at 2, they would’ve just done the trade with the Jets.

    They are taking a QB at 2.

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    People only remember who you got in a trade if it works. Do you think the Giants want to help the Jets and spend the next 10 years reading about how the trade with the Giants got the Jets a star quarterback? Too much of a risk, and no one is going to overcompensate you in a trade to make up for this.

    I doubt the Giants take a QB, but might play it up in order to get Denver, Arizona, Buffalo, etc to give up the house to make a trade up.

  22. This is the right move. Why jump so early when you have all that dead money to contend with? Regardless with what happens, this is the right mindset going forwars. Jets jumped way toi early in my opinion. You are going to tell me they love 3 if these QBs equally? I just don’t believe that.And if you gave all that up to “settle” for a guy…that is just poor management imo.

  23. JagsBoss says:
    March 19, 2018 at 8:46 am
    And the Giants won’t ever connect them. They’re drafting their next franchise QB with this pick.

    50/50 on that. When they unbenched Manning, that might have pushed the window back another year, one in which Davis Webb plays in the 2nd half of 2018, then go after Brett Rypien in 2019.

  24. what ppl Don’t UNDERSTAND Is the Bills Acquired Extra pics for this reason..Bills have 2- 1’s..2 – 2’s .2-3’s..so if they move up (Giants 2nd Over-All) it’s not like their losing a ton..Just maybe 2 pic’s in later rounds,Bills will have $90 mil to spend next yr to spend in FA Signings to plug holes..So Bills should give up the extra 1…2-2’s and a 3rd to move up and also throw a 5th in the mix..Giants will accept it,wouldn’t except it from jets because they are Rivals !!!!!Bills can move up if Beane wants too..the ball is in Bills court Not Giants !

  25. Doesn’t matter how far any of these yahoos trade up. They’re all getting the Browns leftovers. I’d hate to be a Jets fan knowing that they played their hand way too soon and will get leap frogged by Buffalo only to be left with sloppy thirds

  26. tylawspick6 says:
    March 19, 2018 at 9:14 am
    I have to lauugh at the over-confidence of this franchise right now. We’ve seen this before.
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    Trolling Buffalo articles is truly laughable. We’ve seen this before.

  27. @ tylawspick6,

    “I have to lauugh at the over-confidence of this franchise right now. We’ve seen this before.”

    Lol. So have l and the several millions of people who watch the Super Bowl. I know you remember the Patriots going 2-3 in their last 5 SB’s – 0-3 against the NFC East!

    Did you say something about over-confidence, because you and the rest of your fanbase got it down.

  28. What I find mildly amusing is that it is usually fans of other teams trying to poke holes in the Patriots success and craftiness, yet here we sit, and Patriot homers trying to do the same to the Bills. Scared much? First things first, McCarron would have never been offered a contract by the Pats if they didn’t think he could succeed Brady. He wanted to start now, though, which is why he’s in Buffalo. Saban and Billichek gonway bavk, you don’t think he knew something everybody else didn’t? Anywho, the Bills hold all the cards here. Everybody is worried about them giving up picks to move up, but in reality, they could package 12 with some 2nds and maybe a future, and then see how the draft shakes out to #22, and then trade back and pick up the lost capital. You know a team at the top of round 2 will be looking to get back into the first of a QB they like starts to slide. Beane is a very smart man.

  29. The Jets/Colts trade set the market for trading up this year, and it is outrageously expensive. For the Bills to pay that kind of price they had better have everyone in the building 100% convinced their target is a lead pipe lock, 12-year franchise QB–and be right in their assessment–or it wasn’t worth it.

  30. billsbackto81 says:
    March 19, 2018 at 9:31 am
    tylawspick6 says:
    March 19, 2018 at 9:14 am
    I have to lauugh at the over-confidence of this franchise right now. We’ve seen this before.
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    Over confidence or just smart management? McDermott was the first to admit at a recent press conference that the Bills are not as far ahead as many would like to think. I guess Patriot fans think it stinks to have another team in the division with a competent front office unlike years past.

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    I am not really buying it. They came from Carolina and we all know how full of themselves they are there.

    You don’t just show up and pretend everything is going to be great because you got a promotion on a new job somewhere else.

    The Bills actually think they are onto something with their moves.

    What’s comical is the Lotulelei draft bust following Beane up to Buffalo. Hint: if Lotulelelei was not a bust, he would have been budgeted for and the cornerstone he was supposed to be.

    Beane can’t get past he and the Carolina GM made a mistake with that pick.

  31. Can the AFC just hit on some QBs for crissakes?…

    Watching Brady and the Pats go through the gauntlet of your Tom Savages, Blake Bortles, and Alex Smith’s of the AFC is getting old…

    Do the Pats runaway to the Superbowl every year having to face the Brees, Rodgers, Wilsons, and Wentz’ of the NFC?

  32. The Bills are projected to have over $100 million in cap space for next year. Their future will be looking very good for years to come.

  33. Jets were reckless in their move up. It was a desperation move. According to the stories in the. Y daily news and the MMQB, Maccagnan bet his job over a year ago in getting one of the top 4 QBs in this draft.

    All they did was guarantee that they get the 3rd QB off the board. They didn’t even move up for 1 specific QB. They don’t seem to really care which of the 3 QBs they get as long as they get one.

    That reeks of a guy willing to throw a dart at one of 3 random QBs and hope it sticks. The guy they want to be the face of their franchise for the next decade…

    They haven’t even had a chance to have any of these QBs in for a visit yet! Or work them out privately. Or sit down and talk with them extensively. Or even attend all of their pro days yet!

    How can you like 3 QBs equally in this draft and think all 3 are worth FOUR top 49 picks?? So in other words, there are at least 3 QBs in this draft that are better than having 4 good starting caliber prospects? What are the odds of that actually being true? Just about zero when you look at the history of the draft.

  34. my_old_name_was_offensive says:
    March 19, 2018 at 10:43 am
    Can the AFC just hit on some QBs for crissakes?…

    Watching Brady and the Pats go through the gauntlet of your Tom Savages, Blake Bortles, and Alex Smith’s of the AFC is getting old…

    Do the Pats runaway to the Superbowl every year having to face the Brees, Rodgers, Wilsons, and Wentz’ of the NFC?

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    Nope. We were specifically just told by some rube above that going to a conf title game every year, and hopefully a SB, is BAD.

    Of course, that person is clinically insane, so take that with a grain of salt.

  35. redlikethepig says:
    March 19, 2018 at 8:54 am
    Bills fans deserve something good to happen to them. They’ve had a lot of plain old bad luck.
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    Cleveland fans: “Hold my beer.”

  36. Even the “experts” can’t agree on who’s #1 – #4…or even #5. All these QBs seem to have about the same chance of success/failure. I can’t see giving up a bevy of 4 , 5, or even 6 draft picks to move up in this crapshoot.

  37. tylawspick6 says:
    March 19, 2018 at 9:14 am

    I have to lauugh at the over-confidence of this franchise right now. We’ve seen this before.
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    This, coming from a Patriots fan? LOL, wow. What a great laugh for a Monday. Thanks.

  38. McBeane made it to the playoffs in their first rebuild year with a patchwork misfit toy roster for the most part. Just imagine when the culture foundation is set and the cap is rectified?…watch out.

    In the parody era, if the coach and GM are 100% aligned, franchises can turn quick…..which is happening in Buffalo.

    I understand Pats fans frustration. It has been an amazing run, much respect…..but they’ve peaked, albeit from great heights, and are now descending. Knowing the run is over hurts….I know, I’m a Bills fan.

  39. The Bills don’t want to overpay for a trade after the foolish Jests destroyed the market by grossly overpaying just to move up THREE friggin spots.

  40. So then why did he move from 21 to 12? Its obvious he wants to make a move to get a QB, he thinks or should I say hopes the Giants get spooked if the Browns take Barkley at 1 and the price for 2 will go down, if not he will be looking to move up to 6-7-8 if A QB drops past the Broncos at 5….He’s got plenty of assets to move to 1 or 2 if he needs too but the price is increasing daily…

  41. tylawpic6…HOW is Lotulelei a bust ?…He’s a run stuffer,takes on 2 blockers every play .he’s not a sack guy,wasn’t drafted for that…Pats had a great run but the rest of the franchises history was mediocre At best!..Welcome back to Mediocracy !!No one cares about being 2nd best..tommy is in his 40’s..Father Time on line one !!!

  42. The Bills can start McCarron and take a chance on someone like Luke Falk later in the draft. Develop him for a year and see what happens. Then draft a QB in 2019 if not. I don’t think trading up is a good idea in this draft because there’s no way to get Darnold or Rosen and the other guys are not worth a trade up. Allen isn’t accurate enough and Mayfield is a loose cannon. Build a formidable OL in 2018 instead.

  43. @cantescapekarma

    Uh..and if you read that same MMQB you would know the Jets placed a scout at every live game for each QB, met with Mayfield and Allen at the senior bowl, and this trade came right after they were at Baker Mayfield and Josh Rosen’s pro day where every team interviews the prospect at the end of the throwing sessions. It’s easy to bash the Jets but I have no idea where you’re coming up with this “they didn’t do any research!!” story.

  44. Stick a random pin in all the recent first and second round picks … and tell us how many of them you’d trade for a 21 year old Aaron Rodgers.

  45. TheDPR says:
    March 19, 2018 at 9:34 am
    I’d love to see some actual numbers showing that picking a QB in the first handful of picks proves more successful than picking a QB anywhere else in the draft. I bet the difference is marginal and not worth the price.

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    Actually the stats are there and it does prove that QB’s in the top 10 is worth it.

    50% hit for top 10. Less from 10 to 32. Like a lot less.

    For 2nd rounds: Brees, Dalton, Carr (off the top of my head). Way less.

    Brady, Wilson, Prescott (maybe), out of 100 plus QBs taken from the 3rd round down? WAY WAY less.

  46. “The Cleveland Browns control this draft. The rest of y’all are merely spectators.

    Sit back and enjoy the show, boys and girls.”
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    And as usual, they will weed out all of the busts for the rest of us..
    The other 31 teams thank you.

  47. my_old_name_was_offensive says:
    March 19, 2018 at 10:43 am
    Can the AFC just hit on some QBs for crissakes?…

    Watching Brady and the Pats go through the gauntlet of your Tom Savages, Blake Bortles, and Alex Smith’s of the AFC is getting old…

    Do the Pats runaway to the Superbowl every year having to face the Brees, Rodgers, Wilsons, and Wentz’ of the NFC?

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    Well since the Pats record against NFC teams is actually better than that against AFC teams I would say “yeah…they would”

  48. If Bridgewater looks healthy, I wouldn’t be shocked if they took Barkley if he’s available, or, if they’re not convinced the second best QB here is worth the pick, Chubb. They don’t need a defensive player, but they haven’t had a top flight edge rusher since John Abraham. Barkley is a more realistic option since I have a feeling they think Darnold and Rosen are the only two quarterbacks worth this pick.

    But if I were the Browns, I’d be taking Barkley at one and then the best available QB at 4. So we’ll see what happens. Id say Darnold-Barkley-Rosen-Chubb seems like the most likely draft order.

  49. Bills will wait and see how it plays out. Wouldn’t be surprised if they ended up trading into the Colts new spot at #6, and the Colts end up with 28 picks in the 1st 3 rounds.

  50. backintheday99 says:
    March 19, 2018 at 12:28 pm
    Sometimes the best trades are the ones you don’t make. On paper, the Jets are better. Results, remain to be seen. The Jets are not 1 RB away from competing.

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    This is one of the funniest things I have ever rwad.Anywhere. Ever.

    Pats will be in their 8th straight conf title game in 2018 and quite possibly the Super Bowl yet again.

    As I stated above, lots of delusion in Buffalo.

    The fact theiir own fans don’t know what 45 mil in dead money means, is hilarious.

  51. boiler72 says:
    March 19, 2018 at 11:15 am
    tylawspick6 says:
    March 19, 2018 at 9:14 am

    I have to lauugh at the over-confidence of this franchise right now. We’ve seen this before.
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    This, coming from a Patriots fan? LOL, wow. What a great laugh for a Monday. Thanks.

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    That doesn’t make sense.

    I’ve been saying “12-4 or better and pray for health” for over 10 years now and I am right every year.

    No other fan of any other team can say that and be right every year.

    Enjoy the view. It’s gonna be a while.

  52. The Giants and the Jets don’t trade, period. There is no way the Giants would give their 2 to the Jets and have them draft a potential franchise player. They would never hear the end of it from the NY media. They share the same stadium, the same town, always fighting to best the other. Have never made a big trade, never will.

  53. David Szwartz says:
    March 19, 2018 at 11:32 am
    tylawpic6…HOW is Lotulelei a bust ?…He’s a run stuffer,takes on 2 blockers every play .he’s not a sack guy,wasn’t drafted for that…Pats had a great run but the rest of the franchises history was mediocre At best!..Welcome back to Mediocracy !!No one cares about being 2nd best..tommy is in his 40’s..Father Time on line one !!!

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    If that’s true, then where was his contract after wisely walking from Norman? Why did they pay old man Peppers instead?

    Also, as a 4-3 DT, he’s not supposed to be double teamed. That’s for a 3-4 player, usually the NT.

    The guy was in no way worth a top 10 draft pick. Obviously.

  54. People kill me with the “this team will have a billion dollars in cap space” argument. Tell me when ever has that led to those teams becoming contenders shortly thereafter? I’m going to wait on this one because the answers should be funny to read. You win by getting good players, period, and Buffalo has a scant few of them on their roster these days.

  55. What’s the big deal with the Bills drafting a franchise QB?

    They had Jim Kelly and lost 4 SB’s.

  56. Not sold on Mccarran 5 games doesn’t give a lot to base the future. Remember Matt Cassel?
    Get a strong line then worry about Rookie “franchise” QB. Hard to learn when you re running for your life and/or on your back staring at the sky.

  57. It sounds like the Bills have found the answer at QB. Now I think Brian Daboll, the current offensive coordinator for the Bills and former Saban’s offensive coordinator will target Calvin Ridley with the first pick. He is familiar with him and incorporate some of the Bama’s offense that both McCarron and Ridley are familiar with.

  58. yes, The Bills have $45M in dead cap money this year….they will have $100M free cap space in 2019. So, 6 picks in the first 3 rds of this years draft and $100M to spend next year….yes, they are badly run.

  59. Browns will get crafty trade their #4 and extra picks to the Giants for their #2. Giants will still get their desired QB plus a few extra 2nd round picks from the Browns.

    1. Browns – Darnold
    2. Browns – Barkley
    3. Jets – Mayfield
    4. Giants – Rosen

  60. askeddie11 says:
    March 19, 2018 at 9:08 am
    Wow 45 million for dead cap space, talk about a badly
    run franchise.
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    Shipping Darius off to Carolina , Eric Wood retiring and some other bad moves by the last GM has nothing to do with this GM. But if you look at next year…Almost 100 million in cap space..A badly run franchise? I think not

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