West Coast teams want NFL rule limiting early kickoffs

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Teams that play in the Pacific time zone are tired of early kickoffs on the East Coast (and even earlier kickoffs in London), and they want the NFL to limit them.

Toward that end, the 49ers, Chargers and Cardinals have proposed a rule to be discussed at next week’s league meeting that would limit the number of early games that teams in the Pacific Time Zone can play.

According to Albert Breer of SI.com, the rule would say that no team will be scheduled to play more than three away games with a scheduled kickoff time prior to 1 p.m. in the time zone of their home stadium, except with that team’s consent.

For example, the 49ers have road games in Green Bay, Minnesota, Kansas City and Tampa Bay next season. The rule they’re proposing would mean that at least one of those games would have to be a 4 p.m. Eastern kickoff.

The teams out West might have trouble convincing the rest of the league to accept that rule, as the NFL likes to have flexibility for TV scheduling purposes. But it’s not surprising that they want the league to consider limiting their early wakeup calls.

88 responses to “West Coast teams want NFL rule limiting early kickoffs

  1. Personally I’m all for it. It’s annoying when there’s a ton of 1pm games and only 3 games at 4 oclock, 2 of which blow.

    *insert comment about hating London games*

  2. sirjoeshmoe2015 says:

    March 20, 2018 at 3:22 pm

    Aren’t east coast team tired of the west coast late kick offs?

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    Considering the east coast fan bases will still be watching at 4pm their time and also considering east coast teams play far, far fewer west coast games, I don’t think this is a problem

  3. I think the NFL needs to use better judgement in the time the games are in accordance to the teams. For example…a few years ago…the MN Vikings played a late kick off on the Monday night double header. The kickoff was at like 8 or 9 West coast time. That is like Midnight in MN. How is that fair at all?

  4. West coast teams traveling east SHOULD get 4pm EST kick off times. And equally, East coast teams traveling west should always get 1pm PST kickoff times. If we want to be fair and equal.
    However judging by suspensions, fines and other punishments handed down by the NFL, they have no interest in being fair and equal.

  5. Since the players must travel the day before, West Coast teams do not get enough sleep the night before the game. Their sleep schedule is all messed up and it shows in the Win-Lose statistics. Teams going the opposite direction do not have that problem.

  6. sirjoeshmoe2015 says:
    March 20, 2018 at 3:22 pm
    Aren’t east coast team tired of the west coast late kick offs?
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    No, this has to do with the fans. If I want to watch a 49ers game, it comes on at 10am. It’s so the fans can settlie in and watch their teams in the afternoon. No one on the east coast cares if their team is playing at 4pm – it might even be more convenient with respect to getting together with friends.

  7. 1 out of 4? What’s the point? Should be minimum 2 playing at 1pm Eastern. Huge disadvantage for WC teams playing at 10 am local tine. That’s perfect for golfing not football.

  8. So, only half the West Coast teams have a problem? Because the Rams, Raiders and Seahawks aren’t mentioned at all. Seems like to have any hope of getting this passed they’d have wanted to show a unified front on the matter.

  9. Eh, I guess it’s tough on the West Coast teams….god knows I hate jet lag when I travel east.

    The 49ers before league realignment had the most ungodly travel schedule and they figured out how to win. At one time the NFC West was made up of: San Francisco 49ers, LA/St. Louis Rams, Atlanta Falcons and New Orleans Saints. How the heck are Atlanta and New Orleans considered Western????

  10. Poor babies. You have to get up early to go to work to make millions of dollars. Maybe you all should wear baby suckers instead of mouth pieces. Suck it up butter cups.

  11. The Vikings need to play as many late games as possible. It gives the fans more time to settle in and ensures someone who knows the Heimlich Maneuver is within earshot.

  12. More 4 p.m. games is fine by me. It’s crazy that the NFL will have 10 or 11 games at 1 p.m. and two or three at 4 p.m. I guess it’s to avoid dinnertime on the East Coast but honestly who wouldn’t rather watch football than eat dinner with their family?

  13. And the end of Pro-football continues, now their crying about some lost sleep…most are so amped up on Adderall anyway

  14. Let the west coasters have their way. And, as a compromise, move the MNF kickoffs to 6:00 PM Eastern so us East Coasters don’t have to stay up till midnight to finish a game on a work night.

  15. The 49ers before league realignment had the most ungodly travel schedule and they figured out how to win. At one time the NFC West was made up of: San Francisco 49ers, LA/St. Louis Rams, Atlanta Falcons and New Orleans Saints. How the heck are Atlanta and New Orleans considered Western????
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    Falcons and Saints were in the NFC West b/c they both entered the league late. In the late 60s there were only 5 true west coast teams and 3 were in the AFC. Only SanFran and the L.A . Rams were in the NFC. Since each division had 4 teams the NFC West had to be made up of 2 teams that weren’t west coast. I assume since the Falcons and Saints were the newbies they were forced to be in the Western division.

  16. But night games are fine for east coast teams?
    I live in the eastern time zone and hate night games, so I dvr them.
    Fans out west that can’t get up before 10 can do the same.

  17. steves11 says:
    March 20, 2018 at 3:28 pm

    What a bunch of babies. Get out of bed at a decent hour like normal people and you won’t have a problem with the start time.
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    Has anyone ever thought that people could be getting up early to go to church and they would prefer to see their teams play in the afternoon? I would think that ratings could be maximized by trying to make the times as convenient as possible for most fans to watch.

  18. ajzinnecker says:
    March 20, 2018 at 3:28 pm

    I think the NFL needs to use better judgement in the time the games are in accordance to the teams. For example…a few years ago…the MN Vikings played a late kick off on the Monday night double header. The kickoff was at like 8 or 9 West coast time. That is like Midnight in MN. How is that fair at all?
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    I don’t think you understand how time zones work.

    Also, that west coast MNF game started at 9:20 MN time.

  19. I use to live in AZ and I loved 10am football (until DST then it was 11). Sunday night game ended around 8 or 830 and I could get to bed a decent hour for work Monday morning.

  20. Never have or never will understand only having 2 – 4 games in the 4PM slot.

    Almost as genius as when they only had some games shown in HD. (NFL and the Nets were so cash strapped they could afford HD cameras for 8 games a week)

  21. allforfunnplay says:
    March 20, 2018 at 3:45 pm
    Eh, I guess it’s tough on the West Coast teams….god knows I hate jet lag when I travel east.

    The 49ers before league realignment had the most ungodly travel schedule and they figured out how to win. At one time the NFC West was made up of: San Francisco 49ers, LA/St. Louis Rams, Atlanta Falcons and New Orleans Saints. How the heck are Atlanta and New Orleans considered Western????
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    Its called powerful owners. Its the same reason the Miami Dolphins are in the AFC East while the Indy Colts are someone considered “South”. If there was logic involved, the Dolphins would be in the South, Ravens the East, and Colts the North. For the NFC, Dallas has never had any business being in the East and should be in the South and Carolina moved to the East.

  22. It’s a screwed up system. Many times there’s hardly any games later, like 7-8-9 at 10-11am West coast and only 3-4 at 1-2pm West coast. Meanwhile some of those 10-11am games are West coast teams. They could easily balance this out.

    Hell I’ve seen it when a two west coast teams, or at least it’s a west coast home game and they are playing at 10-11am. What is that?

    Even looking beyond fairness, the NFL has a bit of a quality problem. It makes sense just from a quality of the product on the field perspective. Does the NFL want to put the best product on the field? Then don’t have situations where teams are playing way out of whack.

    On the times they have double header MNF games, East coast games should be the first one, and West coast the second one. If they need to move both games back an additional hour, it would make sense.

    They also sometimes pull this crap in the playoffs too. Where west coast teams sometimes play at 11am. Meanwhile two east coast teams play the 2pm game. They should have flexibility there too.

    Because it’s just fair for a team to have had a first round bye only to play against a team that didn’t and has to play at 11am.

    London games are difficult for anyone given the time differences. That’s a problem that’s just not going away until the NFL gets wise.

  23. I live on the west coast (born and raised) and I’m a Dolphin fan. I love my games starting @10am. I actually hate it when there is a 1pm start. Not to mention west coast sports fans have it way easier then any east coast fans, if you want to get to bed at a normal time that is. West coasters have NOTHING to be complaining about but they will anyway. The whining is getting old!

  24. East teams that travel west are effected more negatively
    than west teams that travel east.

    GOOGLE: Teams/travel west/circadian rhythm

    4 p.m. on the west coast is 7 p.m. on the east coast
    8 p.m. on the west coast is 11 p.m. on the east coast

    East coast athletes days are normally over by 5 p.m. EST.

  25. There have been statistical research on the wins/losses. SportsInsights focused on West Coast teams playing the 1pm EST game. From 2013-2016, the win rate for theses teams (Raiders, Chargers, 49ers & Seahawks) were HIGHER than the expected.

    Part of their research discovered that coaches & trainers already anticipate the early start time and prepare ALL WEEK to adjust the circadian rhythm of the athletes. There is NO ADVANTAGE anymore.

  26. Too bad every single important franchise is on the east coast (the ones that keep all the west teams afloat with revenue sharing), so west coast teams should probably just shut it and take their money that they did nothing to earn with their half empty stadiums.

  27. “no team will be scheduled to play more than three away games with a scheduled kickoff time prior to 1 p.m. in the time zone of their home stadium”

    This can’t be right. Dallas often has 3 of these within its own division.

  28. This has to be a brainchild of the Cardinals. There is no team in any sport, pro or not, that whines as much as that horrible franchise. I thought the whining would dissipate after the biggest whiner of them all – Arians – left, but it only became louder.

  29. How about a rule that makes the Sunday afternoon slate of games more balanced? Instead of 9 early games and 3 late games, perhaps 6 and 6 or 7 and 5.

    I’m sick having to choose between the Raiders/Chargers/Cardinals/Seahawks/Broncos and an NFC East game.

  30. the solution to this is obvious. if im the niners coach a just have my guys down a few barbituates before they go to bed on saturday night and then crush some aderall sunday morning. this is all so simple folks.

  31. I would love to wake up and have my game on by 10am and then by 1pm enjoy the rest of my Sunday. 1pm is smack dab in the middle of the day why would you want that, be thankful for what you have.

  32. How many millions of dollars does one have to be paid before working on a Sunday morning stops being something to whine about?

  33. “considering east coast teams play far, far fewer west coast games”

    Where did you come up with that fantasy? When an eastern division plays a western div in any year each team gets 2 home and 2 aways games with that other division. Its 50-50. East coast teams play just as many west coast games as the other way around.

    The only variation is that each teams plays 2 league selected opponents every year that are not among the 2 divisions outside their own that they are paired with, that finished in the same slot in the division, ie 1st place teams play first place teams, 2nd to 2nd, etc on those 2 games.

    That can create small variations but in no way does any team from either coast play “far far fewer games” on the other coast.

  34. It’s been an obvious issue for decades. I hope they are serious about rectifying it. Cards played almost every away game not on the west coast @ 10 am last season. Seattle had to play a -2 degree playoff game in Minnesota followed by a 10 am playoff game at 10 am in Carolina. It’s flippin not a normal time for athletic competitions to be played…..10 am their fans time and their inner clock time.

  35. It’s about time.

    Obvious east coast advantage having your West Coast opponent fly across the country for what equates to an 10AM kickoff.

    @sirjoeshmoe…: What, an extra 3 hrs of rest not good enough for the east coast teams?

  36. bearaholic1 says:
    March 20, 2018 at 3:47 pm
    Liberals on the west coast have to whine about something !!!
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    Most of the “liberals” teams (Oak, Sea, Den) did not object. The red gun toting state of AZ did. What say you about that one Trumpkin?

  37. While they are at it, Trump’s NFL ownership cronies should ask the Donald to dump daylight savings time which is completely unnecessary since about sixty years ago. Nobody knows more about daylight savings time than Trump, just ask him!

  38. That’s a reasonable request, why should their fans have to start watching their team at 10am not that I would mind but having one of those games starting at 1 is fair….how early do the bars open on the west coast? heading to the bar at 10 am to watch your team and start drinking eating is a little much….

  39. spunjmunke says:
    March 20, 2018 at 3:38 pm

    Hey west coasters, there are more of us east coasters than you and we are tired of your whining. Suck it up.
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    Well, California alone has the 6th largest economy in the entire world. Seems they’re not the locale that doesn’t have to suck.

  40. That’s why an NFL franchise(s) will NEVER work in Europe unless it was a separate League.
    Can you imagine how many people would not tune into games on Sunday due to Church?
    OR some places guys have to go to Sports Bars to watch their teams play if they have moved? gimme’ a Bud at 7:00 AM PST? UNLESS they would tape delay the games for 3-5 hours.

  41. Rob Brzezinski is a Magician says:
    March 20, 2018 at 4:00 pm

    Has anyone ever thought that people could be getting up early to go to church

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    Lol. Shut up. No one got time for that nonsense.

  42. Has anyone ever thought that people could be getting up early to go to church and they would prefer to see their teams play in the afternoon? I would think that ratings could be maximized by trying to make the times as convenient as possible for most fans to watch.

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    You could always go to your magic show at 7:00 am and still be home to watch the 10:00 am game.

  43. “Has anyone ever thought that people could be getting up early to go to church and they would prefer to see their teams play in the afternoon?”

    Since when does the NFL ever consider what the fans want?

  44. I would sympathize, but if I have to stay up to midnight to see the end of a game when I work the next day, I don’t want to hear it.

  45. I see that insulting certain religions is still ok in the pc snowflake era. That’s interesting.

  46. Sure, and to even things out, start MNF, the World Series and all other championships at 7:00 so the east coast can see the end of the game.

  47. The NFL already bends over backwards for the west coast. Example, the 6:30 PM east coast superbowl starts. They don’t need to do any more.

  48. Not unfair or unreasonable to ask. I don’t understand why…say for example AZ plays @BUFF then @PITT in consecutive weeks…. maybe get to each East Coast city as soon as possible & not even leave the East Coast between games? Yah I understand players want to go home & family and whatever else. But it’s still a job, even though it’s a billion dollar game.

    AND THIS WILL AFFECT BETTING LINES if West Coast teams get to play later games out East. And I would imagine then that the East Coast teams will then ask & try to avoid early kickoffs out West.

  49. justintuckrule says:
    March 20, 2018 at 6:01 pm
    bearaholic1 says:
    March 20, 2018 at 3:47 pm
    Liberals on the west coast have to whine about something !!!
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    Most of the “liberals” teams (Oak, Sea, Den) did not object. The red gun toting state of AZ did. What say you about that one Trumpkin?

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    Wow “Trumpkin” that so original, oh and “gun toting” thats also new stuff…I suppose you’re a pacifist, hide under the bed until the police save you kind of guy/girl?

  50. If anyone should complain it’s east coast fans as Sunday night football doesn’t end til almost midnight. Football is over on the west coast at 8:30 as it should be.

  51. Im kind of jealous of the 10am football they get out there. And backing up the Sunday night game three hours has gotta be nice too.

  52. jvw1982 says:
    March 20, 2018 at 6:06 pm
    That’s a reasonable request, why should their fans have to start watching their team at 10am not that I would mind but having one of those games starting at 1 is fair….how early do the bars open on the west coast? heading to the bar at 10 am to watch your team and start drinking eating is a little much….
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    10 AM start is the best thing in the world! When my team is in the London game, even better. We’re at the bar from 6 AM til 10 PM.

  53. Wow “Trumpkin” that so original, oh and “gun toting” thats also new stuff…I suppose you’re a pacifist, hide under the bed until the police save you kind of guy/girl?
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    Um. That’s what my taxes are for and that’s what police are for right? They’re the ones trained to fight crime, not you or me. So yeah, idiot. I’m not going outside to shoot whatever is moving. That’s not what our forefathers envisioned.

  54. Well, let’s just play all games on ET schedule, that’ll solve the problem.(Sarcasm)

  55. To be honestly truthful I really don’t care for the kickoff time.
    Other then when you have a West Coast team play Sunday night or on Monday night and then have to play the 1pm kickoff on the east coast. Its not fair at all in practice, rehabilitating for next game, or on the “body clock”.

    The West Coast teams including my favorite team should be prepared regardless of what time kickoff is, and seems more like an excuse then anything to me but yet I’m not the one playing in the game.

    Several different factors are at play

    – early kickoff on east coast vs West Coast teams is an advantage to east coast teams but isn’t that why it’s called home field advantage

    – quality of game should be better because it gives the visiting team more time to adjust but I’m not aware of any statistics that can prove that

    – it’s not really fair to east coast fans of home team that attend the game because they still have to drive home and go to work the following day

    – it would even up the late game to early game tv time slots by not making the early game tv schedule so morning heavy

    I’m not sure if they could kickoff at 2pm in those games making it a more friendly time and still seems fair to both teams. Like I said originally, it seems more like an excuse then anything but I’m not the one playing.

  56. This is a stupid request. It’s not like there is a surprise game scheduled with a few hours notice. All west coast teams have to do is modify their schedule heading into the game. Schedule Friday activities early, get into bed at a decent hour Friday and Saturday and the flight will make no difference at all. If you want to party into the night on California time and then hop on a plane and fly to NY you are just asking for trouble. Just wait until Florida does not “fall back”…it will seem another hour earlier to stupid people who fail to prepare.

  57. I dont think the early eastern time kickoff is that big a deal for west coast teams. I do think it would be better for the fan to have more late games to choose from than there is now. I think for a lot of fans(not in the eastern time zone) the later kickoff is the better viewing time than the early games. I catch parts of the early games but most often the afternoon game is when I can actually settle in and watch.

  58. I suppose the next proposal along these lines will be to limit the number of road games at northern, outdoor sites in November and December that teams who play their home games indoors or at warm-weather sites can play in a season – historically a more disadvantageous situation than that of teams who play in the Mountain and Pacific time zones having to play games that start at 1:00 PM Eastern time.

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