Seahawks G.M.: Resetting, not rebuilding

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Seahawks General Manager John Schneider knows what it looks like.

But he insists that the Seahawks aren’t rebuilding, just tweaking a roster that still has many talented players.

“It’s just always very, very hard to make those decisions to move on from people, but that’s what we have to do in order to be a consistent championship-caliber football team,’’ Schneider said, via Bob Condotta of the Seattle Times. “We don’t want to be having these major rebuilding years. We want to be able to have little re-sets, if you will.”

So far this offseason, the Seahawks have cut Richard Sherman and traded Michael Bennett, offered Earl Thomas in trade and lost Sheldon Richardson, Jimmy Graham, and Paul Richardson in free agency (while acknowledging that Kam Chancellor and Cliff Avril won’t likely play for them again). They’ve backfilled with a lesser grade of players, but Schneider emphasized what’s left.

Bobby Wagner, Duane Brown, Doug Baldwin, Russell Wilson, there’s a pretty cool group of guys, and I’m leaving guys out, I know,’’ he said. “It’s not like 2010 [when Schneider and coach Pete Carroll were hired] when we felt like we had to make these sweeping changes. We’ve been here since 2010, and it feels like we’ve just constantly been doing this every single year. It’s not like we have this, ‘OK, season’s over, now we’re going to do A, B and C.’ We’re working all the way through the year.”

And that work continues, as he acknowledged that Thomas is available for the right price, and that they aren’t talking to him about a contract extension.

“Earl’s under contract for another season, and if we’re not listening to everybody we are not doing a very good job,’’ Schneider said. “So we have to listen to everything that’s going on all the time.”

And that means the Seahawks are going to look very different when they take the field this fall. Which sounds like a rebuild, even if that’s not what they want to call it.

58 responses to “Seahawks G.M.: Resetting, not rebuilding

  1. That’s like a movie studio saying, “we’re not rebooting, we’re just recasting the major roles and doing a retcon to move on from the previous movies. It’s a reimagining.”

  2. Talk about sugar coating it. Seahawks aren’t gonna be competing this year. They’re a Russell Wilson injury away from a 4 win season.

  3. I’m a Seahawks fan and this is such a BS answer. Re-tool; re-load; re-set; re-build, whatever you want to call it your making the team look vastly different and there is no way to know if we are going to be complete crap, or barely contend for a wild card spot.

    With what the RAMS are doing this year I doubt we compete very well in our own division let alone against the Vikings, Eagles, Saints, and Packers.

  4. How can you not call what they’re doing re-building? That whole secondary is gonna be gone by training camp along with already most of the D-Line the TE’s and more

  5. Increasingly likely that Seattle will be the worst team in the Division. “Just tweaking the roster” is a laughable comment from the GM – (just blowing it up – would be more accurate).

  6. Not a total rebuild but for it to be successful you have to hit in the draft. The Saints did the same thing shipping off players after 2013….then struggled to get the right pieces back until they hit draft jackpot. Otherwise you’ll look at 7-9 and 8-8 season records.

  7. When Petey and Snide dumped players in 2010, they ended up with a division championship with a 7-9 record. This time around, it probably won’t be good enough to win the division if they finish 7-9 or worse after “resetting.”

    Dumping players like Michael Bennett for a back up wide receiver to replace starters like Jermaine Kearse and Paul Richardson is what Snide is calling “resetting.” The nitwit 12th men are probably going to swallow it hook line and sinker. I call it tanking. LOL

  8. Pay attention Roseman… this is what happens when you have to break the bank for a QB…which the Iggles will have to do with Carlson Wince.

    Of course the Iggles could just stick with what worked…what won them their first Superbowl…Nick Foles…who oh by the way would be a lot cheaper…but the Iggles are smarter than everyone… they’re smarter than common sense… the Seahawks have gotten worse every year since giving Russell that absurd contract… but Roseman and the Iggles gave up picks to get Wince so they’re forced to try and make it work! #fakedynasty

  9. A reset is where the same build is given a refreshed life, Hawks are actually doing a partial rebuild or rebuild on-the-fly. Essentially the hangover that any team in the Age of Parity has to go through after a successful couple of years then a struggle for a couple more while in denial of the need to be in constant rebuild. Look at Pats – only a 3rd of the SB49 team were still there for SB51. This is belated good news for Hawks, but the window may have nailed shut once Wilson needed paying.

  10. Resetting, not rebuilding. Every owner or GM of a team that is slowly going down the toilet is taking notes of what John Schneider just said.

  11. A rebuild is what San Francisco just went through. Seattle has a franchise quarterback in his prime. It only takes a tweak here or there roster wise to make a playoff push when you have that all important piece already in place.

  12. Is this a new definition of resetting?

    Resetting = get rid of many formerly good players who are now older.

    I guess they forgot the part about drafting well to replace them,

  13. “Resetting”, there’s another great word.

    KInd of like instead of saying you lied, you say “I misspoke.”

  14. Seattle drafted 4 players in their secondary last year and 3 in their D line the last two years. Seattle signed McDougal to a 3 year contract at safety (he plays both). This process really started in earnest last year. Seattle added Jaren Brown with a two year contract, picked up Johnson who also has 4.4 speed in the Bennett trade to compensate for Prich, Dixon to a 3 year contract at TE. Seattle has 3rd year TE Nick Vannett who will be the #2 this year and added Coleman at nickle, probably the best they’ve had there since Walter Thurmond. Griffin drafted last year at corner may be a future all pro who started all last year. Seattle added two vet DT (former teammates at the Vikings) to replace Richardson and have their two young good looking DT Reed and Jones that will probably be starters this year. There is still a possibility Malik McDowell could return. Failed 2013 first round picks Jordan and Smith actually looked pretty good last year at DE. Frank Clark was drafted to replace Avril and will do so this year. Mingo was added at SAM but will have similar duties as Irvin had before he was traded. He got a two year deal. Fluker added as a run blocker, Brown now at LT, 2nd rounder Procic returns 11 pounds bigger this offseason and Britt’s contract was renewed last year at center. Returning from IR is 3rd year player Rees O swing tackle guard (Tobin to Pats), Carson RB, Elliot CB (he probably would have been on the 53 last year hurt in preseason), Thorpe cb ST, Fant LT/RT? and Jeffereson at DT. Seattle still has Baldwin and Lockett at WR. Seattle also has two 2nd year players at WR Darboh and Moore who they really like. Seattle also brought back Davis who really came on late last year at RB. The Seahawks are clearing cap space and moving on from players who build their franchise but are getting old and injured. Seattle has been addressing this for the past 3 years in the draft especially. When Maxwell get resigned Seattle has put together on pretty good secondary with Thomas on his last year and he will play. Holding out is not Earl’s deal. A pretty good D Line. a more mature O line under a power /zone scheme with Solari, a fast WR group, TE’s that actually can block, probably still one of the better LB groups around with Wagner and Wright, some good young RB’s and an all pro QB. The Rams and SF made some big splashes, but the news of Seattle demise might be greatly exaggerated. That’s why they play the game.

  15. Why won’t a team ever shoot straight with their fans, use the “r” word when it’s warranted and just own it? It gets annoying and watchers who are in the know, know better.

  16. You could see this coming a mile away last year. The writing has been on the wall. After each crushing defeat the defense suffered, folks would say, “oh but x, y, and z stat.” Look at the bottom line. They are not a playoff team, in the bottom half of the league against the run and middle of the pack in points allowed. They’re completely average, and that’s not good enough results from the salaries they had allocated on the defense. They were comparable to the Cowboys in terms of ranking, and the Cowboys had no real defensive stars or defensive players with ballin contracts like ET, CC, BW, MB, RS and so on.

  17. Losing to the Rams 42 – 7 exposed that roster. Call it a reset if you want but everyone knows the roster was no longer competitive and needed MAJOR changes. The defense was getting long in the tooth so getting rid of those players was a no-brainer. Putting an offensive line in front of Wilson who can actually protect him is another no-brainer. I hope your soft reset starts there.

  18. “this is what happens when you have to break the bank for a QB…”
    _________________

    Wilson’s deal is looking better by the day and he’s now barely in the top 10 by annual salary. The Seahawks have plenty of problems but what they’re paying Wilson certainly isn’t one of them.

  19. The Seahawk defense is going to be one of the worst in the league! Legion of boom turned to dust.

  20. rageviral says:
    March 27, 2018 at 6:14 am
    Talk about sugar coating it. Seahawks aren’t gonna be competing this year. They’re a Russell Wilson injury away from a 4 win season.

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    That’s generous. I don’t see how they would win even a single game without Wilson at this point.

  21. ramrene says:
    Losing to the Rams 42 – 7 exposed that roster.
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    Right. How about when they held the glorious Rams to 10 points and beat them in the first game in LA? Did that “expose” the roster too? The difference was that the Seahawks were down 2 Hall of Famers and 3 Pro Bowlers on defense in the 2nd game. When they were healthy, they manhandled the Rams. Give me a break.

  22. The Seahawks are unloading all the malcontents and trouble makers.

    Bennett and Sherman are already gone, Earl will be traded at the draft and Baldwin will be gone next year when they can get a net cap savings from moving on. They’ve still got a HOF QB in Wilson, and a roster with 7 Pro Bowlers to build around. They also have $90 million in cap space in 2019 to extend future Pro Bowlers like Frank Clark. They also realize they went 9-7 without Avril, Sherman, Chancellor, Carson, and Wagner and Shaq Griffin missing multiple games. They also would have won 11 or 12 games if they had an average kicker, so they probably figured why not dump the locker room problems and reload. They’ll be no worse than 9-7 next year with the roster they have, no matter what the 6and10ers fans want to hope for. Who are you loser gonna take with that top 10 (again) pick Niners fans?

  23. The Cardinals will still beat them in Seattle regardless.

    Seattle is going to have that fourth place spot locked up by Thanksgiving!

  24. Some sports writers claim that Russell Wilson is underpaid and deserves a raise. They can only afford to give him a raise if they get rid of some of the biggest contracts, such as those that pay Bennett, Sherman, Graham, and possibly Earl Thomas. So, Russell Wilson will become the highest paid quarterback in the NFL shortly (no pun intended) since deservedly so. The rest of the team, except for Bobby Wagner, can eat cake.

  25. He’s really not wrong. Even had they retained those guys, they’re still not in a position to compete with the Rams, Eagles, or Vikings in the NFC this year. Might as well bring in some cheaper guys and start to stockpile draft picks in the hopes that they can make another run in 2019 when they’re in a better cap position. I’d be lying if I didn’t say I wasn’t worried that Scot Mccloughlin may have been the only reason they were able to do what they did in the draft in the early years.

  26. As of right now, earl thomas still on the hawks, bobby wagner (best linebacker in football), KJ Wright (Pro Bowler), Frank Clark (soon to be pro bowler), Duane Brown(Pro Bowler), Doug Baldwin (Pro Bowler), and Russell Wilson (Pro Bowler). Sounds like a pretty good core right there.

    49er fans, I get that you have had nothing to be excited about for 5 years, but lets look at all the wins you got with Jimmy G. You beat the rams when the rams rested their starters because they had already clinched. You beat the Bears by 1 point. You beat texans who had already lost Watson and Watt. You beat the titans at home by 2 points, and the Jags by 11 at home in Santa Clara. Garropolo threw 7 TDs and 5 picks. NOT VERY GOOD! Wait til teams see the film on him and gameplan. Its over. Belicheck would not have let him go if he thought he was the next great QB.

    SThe rams added lots of talent, but we will see what happens with that volatile mix – Peters, Talib, Suh. Gurley has injury history and Goff is suspect.

  27. Dmoney is living in a delusional world. Garoppolo is really good and his pocket awareness, accuracy and quick release are special. any football fan who understands the qb position can see that. Seattle’s ship has been sinking and this year you will have to deal with the harsh reality of rebuilding. The Rams look to be really good, the 9ers might be a playoff team. there is a considerable drop off in the West after those 2.

  28. I also like how he says “7 tds and 5 ints” like that tells a story. SF offense went from maybe the nfls worst to maybe the nfls best with the addition of literally 1 player. their offense could not stop putting together scoring drives. check their PPG and TOP before and after Jimmy. if you want to say he wont sustain that success, fine. thats an opinion you can have. taking anything away from his incredible contribution to that team (actual facts) is silly. it makes you look dumb. Just saying!

  29. marcsasharc says:
    March 27, 2018 at 12:06 pm
    I also like how he says “7 tds and 5 ints” like that tells a story. SF offense went from maybe the nfls worst to maybe the nfls best with the addition of literally 1 player. their offense could not stop putting together scoring drives. check their PPG and TOP before and after Jimmy. if you want to say he wont sustain that success, fine. thats an opinion you can have. taking anything away from his incredible contribution to that team (actual facts) is silly. it makes you look dumb. Just saying!

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    Yeah he really set the world on fire with that 15 points he put up against the Bears who were one of the worst teams in the league last year. And all those points he put up in meaningless games like the one against the Rams backups was pretty amazing too.

  30. That was his first NFL start lol. How about the points he put up on Jacksonville…the league’s best defense? Did you forget they were trying to win their division on that day? How about beating Tennessee, a team that finished in the top on a day where they were fighting for a playoff spot? How about just winning every game he ever started in the NFL to date? I guess wins and success do not matter to you Dmoney. Just how many points his offense did or did not put up while playing on the road with a new team who had 1 win to that point in a winning effort. Weird that the 9ers got better with each passing game with Jimmy at QB…but you were saying he would be figured out? Maybe he is just starting to figure THEM out.

    You are a joke.

  31. that was not his first nfl start. And how about those 7 TDs and 5 picks he threw? Not good.

  32. Sorry, i misspoke. His first start with his brand new team in a new offense with a 1-10 team. LOL i also noticed you choose to disregard the fact that SFs offense became a top 5 offense after he took the reigns.

    5 straight wins playing with a 1-10 team. Good. I know it is hard for hawks fans to admit, but Jimmy is good. Really good. Wish he were on my team.

  33. I’m not saying he’s not better than brian hoyer and whoever else they had starting, but SF fans have pretty much crowned him the best QB int he planet based on 5 meaningless wins. Only time will tell how good or not good he really is. Bottom line he got wins in meaningless games and still threw 5 picks with only 7 TDs. those are not good ratios. Wait til he is playing in games that actually matter, you know with the outcome of their season on the line. Then we will see what he is made of. You may be able to have him on your team after he is cut in two years Marc.

  34. The seahawk fan insecurity is apparent with you. its how 9er fans were a few years back. the ship was sinking but they didnt want to accept it. Jimmy G is way too elite in the pocket to fail. Can an injury happen? sure. the crazy thing is, he showed out against a couple really good teams, including the best defense in the NFL (37 points!) while having inconsistent footwork. the kid still has room to grow and what we have seen is top 5 QB level talent. Scary. i get that it bothers you how dominant he looked in his short time, but there are plenty of people who see his talent past Joe 9er fan.

  35. Seehack fans are so delusional,,the end is here for them and they can’t handle it,and Russel one read wilson,is no hall of famer,,where were all the hack fans before they won anything?,,,they will,all,fade away,,,back to the rain and suicide, lol and boom goes the dynamite

  36. streetyson says:
    March 27, 2018 at 8:36 am

    A reset is where the same build is given a refreshed life, Hawks are actually doing a partial rebuild or rebuild on-the-fly. Essentially the hangover that any team in the Age of Parity has to go through after a successful couple of years then a struggle for a couple more while in denial of the need to be in constant rebuild. Look at Pats – only a 3rd of the SB49 team were still there for SB51. This is belated good news for Hawks, but the window may have nailed shut once Wilson needed paying.
    ——
    But unlike the Pats, Seattle’s team does not play in the soft confines of the AFC EAST. In fact, since Seattle’s strong run they’ve had competitive QB’s in their division every year. AFC EAST, none. Not in the AFC either. That’s why NE continually returned to the SB, no QB. You saw what happened in this years SB, NE faced QB competition. And weren’t gifted SB’s by opponents who should have won them.

  37. marcsasharc says:
    March 27, 2018 at 5:35 pm
    The seahawk fan insecurity is apparent with you. its how 9er fans were a few years back. the ship was sinking but they didnt want to accept it. Jimmy G is way too elite in the pocket to fail. Can an injury happen? sure. the crazy thing is, he showed out against a couple really good teams, including the best defense in the NFL (37 points!) while having inconsistent footwork. the kid still has room to grow and what we have seen is top 5 QB level talent. Scary. i get that it bothers you how dominant he looked in his short time, but there are plenty of people who see his talent past Joe 9er fan.

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    LOL you are funny. We will see who is better at the end of the year. I get that you 9ers fans are excited about the most wins theyve had since 2013 but they were meaningless, garbage time games with nothing on the line for the 49ers. Wait until they mean something. Its like you are bragging about pre-season victories. Facts are hard for you, i get it, but they are facts.

  38. im a 9er fan now? facts are great. 5-0 as a starter with a 1-10 team. numbers on left are before JG and the numbers on the right are post JG. FACTS.

    Offensive yards/game 321.7 (21st in NFL) 410.0 (3rd)
    Points/game 17.0 (28th) 28.8 (5th)
    Yards/play 4.9 (24th) 6.1 (4th)
    Passing yards/game 221.8 (17th) 297 (3rd)
    Passing yards/att. 5.66 (29th) 8.44 (1st)
    Completion percentage 56.6 (31st) 67 (6th)
    Passer rating 72.6 (31st) 94.0 (11th)
    Total QBR 32.4 (28th) 80.0 (1st)
    Rushing yards/game 99.9 (23rd) 113.0 (16th)
    3rd-down conversion percentage 34.1 (26th) 50.0 (3rd)
    Offensive efficiency 20.88 (31st) 70.53 (4th)
    First downs/game 18.5 (T-22nd) 23.4 (2nd)
    Time of possession 27:36 (31st) 32:54 (3rd)
    Defensive yards allowed/game 374.2 (28th) 301.8 (7th)
    Defensive yards allowed/play 5.41 (18th) 4.96 (9th)
    Points allowed/game 25.82 (28th) 19.8 (T-9th)

  39. your stats igonore the meaningless games in which he was playing, and the fact that he threw 5 pics and only 7 tds. I guess you aren’t a niner fan. WHo cares. YOu sure act like you love the 9ers. Why are you trolling on a seahawks article if you are not a 9ers fan?

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