Could Gronk be traded?

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It’s been nearly two months since Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski declined to commit to another season of football. Could the Patriots be inclined to make the decision for him?

Via TheBigLead.com, Boston Sports Journal has crafted an intriguing bit of (mostly) speculation regarding the possibility of the Patriots trading Gronkowski. Citing a “Bill Belichick-friendly source” (that’s the first time “Belichick” and “friendly” ever have been used in the same breath), Greg Bedard suggests that, when circumstances force the Patriots head coach to contemplate life without a given player, the Patriots head coach begins to warm up to the idea of not having the player.

Bedard identifies the Rams and 49ers as potential destinations. The compensation for Gronkowski, who has two years left on his current contract and may have only one year of football left in his career, isn’t clear. Let’s assume that the Patriots could get a first-round pick for Gronk.

If that’s the case, there’s no reason for the Patriots to finalize the deal now. Whether it’s the Rams at No. 23, the 49ers at No. 9, or anyone else, the goal would be to acquire the pick not four weeks in advance of the draft but when the pick is on the clock. This would prevent the Patriots from being leapfrogged by a team that successfully guesses its intentions for the pick.

But can the Patriots manage to keep the trade quiet that long? Absolutely. The Patriots routinely insist on secrecy from teams and agents as to all transactions; four weeks ago, agent Drew Rosenhaus wouldn’t comment on whether the Patriots had simply asked Gronkowski about his plan for 2018.

His plan for 2018 may be to play for another team. And it’s possible that Gronkowski has feigned interest in retirement in the hopes of getting the Patriots to decide on their own to get what they can for a guy whose career may be pulling into the station.

97 responses to “Could Gronk be traded?

  1. I think he easily could and if LA wants to send Aaron Donald to the Pats straight up for Gronk, I am down Jerry.

    Frankly, I am tired of his passive aggressive antics, and if he wants to be in LA for more attention than he already gets, fine.

    It’s a matter if his retirement talk is truly a bluff, to induce a trade to LA.

    All the best, Rob. The Pats are about winning, not entertainment peripheral to the team.

  2. 1st rounder?! He’ll be 29 in May, is oft-injured, and has floated retiring.

    When he’s on, he’s a complete freak and almost unstoppable, but I wouldn’t give any more than maybe a 3rd and a conditional mid rounder next year based on games played/team success.

  3. Nothing against Gronk but at this point in his career (age and injuries) I can’t see anyone giving up a first-round pick (or even anything other than a 7th) because of all the uncertainty regarding his health and possible retirement. If Bill is thinking of trading him it probably means Gronk is going to retire and is desperate to find some team dumb enough to give away something for nothing.

  4. Does anybody think, even if Gronk suited up for another season, he would give anything close to 100% for anybody other than BB?

    He’d be going at about 75% effort for wherever he would end up, what does he really have to play for or accomplish at this point (other than a paycheck)?

  5. I don’t see him being traded and not wanting a pay increase, which would hinder his value to a team, depending on what he wants. That plus his significant injury history and flirtation with retirement. I don’t think he brings a 1st rounder, maybe not even a second.

  6. Why would a team give up anything of real value for a guy that might be on the fence about playing for the next 2-3 years? Even if he committed today to at least one more year, are there really teams out there just one TE away from a championship and willing to splurge a 1st for that? I doubt it.

  7. whenwilliteverend says:
    March 30, 2018 at 11:08 am
    Nothing against Gronk but at this point in his career (age and injuries) I can’t see anyone giving up a first-round pick (or even anything other than a 7th) because of all the uncertainty regarding his health and possible retirement. If Bill is thinking of trading him it probably means Gronk is going to retire and is desperate to find some team dumb enough to give away something for nothing.

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    I agree. A high 2nd rder would work alongside a 6th.

    Something like that.

    If the guy has checked out from wanting to be a Patriot, then BB already knows it. Bedard doesn’t know. As per usual, that load is speculating up the ying yang.

  8. truthsayer317 says:
    March 30, 2018 at 11:09 am
    Does anybody think, even if Gronk suited up for another season, he would give anything close to 100% for anybody other than BB?

    He’d be going at about 75% effort for wherever he would end up, what does he really have to play for or accomplish at this point (other than a paycheck)?

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    That’s the other caveat. Gronk has no idea how good he’s had it in NE. If he goes somewhere else, he’ll check out even more than he possibly has.

    He has 17 mil guaranteed dollars over the next 2 years and who knows if that’s more or less with what he’d get in some dumb movie role.

  9. Gronk’s focus in on becoming the new Rock or teaming up with him — Gronk & Rock in the new action packed thriller at a theater near you!

  10. Great player when he’s healthy. Gronk is an odd one. Hard to say how much his heart is in it. He’s financially set (I’ve heard he hasn’t touched any of his salary since he’s been in the NFL, he only spends endorsement money) so it’s understandable that he may want to retire.

    And, as others have said, no way he’s worth a number one – just like OBJ isn’t worth two number ones. I’ll bet he’s back with the Pats for one more year.

  11. Yeah I could see it happening. They did win the super bowl without Gronk vs Atlanta right??

  12. With Gronks injury history they might get a 2nd rounder at best, plus he’s about to turn 29. Those teams mentioned are rebuilding and are not giving up a high first rounder. Just like when the Pats thought they would get 2 first rounders for Garoppola, eventually reality set in.

  13. Please not the Rams! How in the hell do they still have cap space? They’re going after my Eagles and hopefully they don’t add Gronk!

  14. The Rams? Maybe. They do seem to be throwing caution to the wind and trying to buy a superbowl. They might fall for spending a 1st rounder on a 1 year rental.

    The 49ers? They seem to be building for the long term. No way they give up the 9th pick for a player that is about to retire. OBJ is more likely than Gronk and even that has little to no hope of happening.

  15. Gronk is not worth a 1st. He is a great player when healthy. The problem is, he is never healthy

  16. As a Pats fan, I’d be okay with this. More than okay with a 1st rounder, but definitely okay with a 2nd. Love Gronk when he plays, but his injuries are starting to catch up with him. Plus, with all of his outside interests, I’m not sure his heart will be in it 100% if he decides to play another season. What’s the old Belichickian expression? “Better to trade a player a year too early than a year too late.”

  17. If Gronk is available I’m sure the Niners would investigate, but there is no way in hell they are giving up #9 for a player that is constantly injured and has already spoken about retirement.

    Besides, Niners really like George Kittle.

  18. Niners aren’t going to trade for a player on the last year of his career. Let the LA Lambs get suckered in.

  19. A lot of teams have finally wised up to the idea that if BB is willing to let someone go…that player is probably done. So far Jimmy G is the only player that has gone on to success elsewhere(but the JG sample size is to small to know for sure) and that was done without BB’s blessing.

    That said, there will be some sucker out there that will take the chance.

  20. jman967 says:
    March 30, 2018 at 11:09 am
    I don’t see him being traded and not wanting a pay increase, which would hinder his value to a team, depending on what he wants. That plus his significant injury history and flirtation with retirement. I don’t think he brings a 1st rounder, maybe not even a second.

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    I think the retirement business is either non issue or a way for him to force a trade.

    It’s one or the other. The last word is that he was in working late in Gillette, so this is either a complete non-story manufactured by creepy Boston media losers, or there is some truth to him wanting to check out, play in LA and start acting.

    I think he’s out of his mind thinking the Rams are in better position in such a cap hell, but whatever.

  21. (that’s the first time “Belichick” and “friendly” ever have been used in the same breath)
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    Florio doesn’t make me laugh often…but this did!

  22. The guy is an injury waiting to happen and has played just one full season, since he became a full-time starter, in his career. Wrose, he’s suffering from all those cumulative injuries of days past.

    In the last six years he’s played 70 of 96 games and failed to start in 8 more games due to previous game nagging injuries. Which whittles it down to 62 of 96 (65%).

    I just don’t see why any team, save one needing that ‘get over the hump’ player, taking him. At best he’s likely to be a highly-talented, but short-term, injury-prone rental. At worst he won’t make it half a season before yet another injury derails him.

  23. Please keep in mind that this is the same fan base that convinced each other that they were getting two firsts and a player for jimmy g.

  24. Gronk is great TE but nobody is giving up a 1st round pick for an often injured player who is also contemplating retirement. Even if the retirement was just BS to force a trade, it still gives the team trading leverage.

  25. jjackwagon says:
    March 30, 2018 at 11:30 am
    A lot of teams have finally wised up to the idea that if BB is willing to let someone go…that player is probably done. So far Jimmy G is the only player that has gone on to success elsewhere(but the JG sample size is to small to know for sure) and that was done without BB’s blessing.
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    Chandler Jones has continued to post some impressive stats in unimportant games with the Cardinals after being traded by the Pats.

    Jamie Collins is supposedly the greatest thing since sliced bread.

    I happen to like both players, but…

    …almost every week non-Pats fans are on this board telling Pats fans how much we miss Jones and Jamie Collins, one Patriots Super Bowl win and one Patriots Super Bowl loss after the fact.

    It is not always about players being “done” with Belichick. Some times it is about maximizing value for a player, often it is with the salary cap in mind.

  26. While I realize it would never happen because Gronk would never come to Green Bay as he seems to have his sights set on being a Hollywood type, it would be interesting to see him paired with Jimmy Graham in GB. Gronk and Graham would give Rodgers some interesting weapons. Like back in ’96 when Favre had Mark Chmura and Keith Jackson.

  27. No thanks. His best play is behind him. I predict the next few years will be nothing but injuries and distractions as he looks to transition into TV/Movies/Drinking…whatever.

  28. moseszd says:
    March 30, 2018 at 11:35 am
    The guy is an injury waiting to happen and has played just one full season, since he became a full-time starter, in his career. Wrose, he’s suffering from all those cumulative injuries of days past.

    In the last six years he’s played 70 of 96 games and failed to start in 8 more games due to previous game nagging injuries. Which whittles it down to 62 of 96 (65%).

    I just don’t see why any team, save one needing that ‘get over the hump’ player, taking him. At best he’s likely to be a highly-talented, but short-term, injury-prone rental. At worst he won’t make it half a season before yet another injury derails him.

    Agreed and don’t forget that he gets an OPI flag for raising his arm above the beltline. The NFL’s way of spreading the wealth, or just flat out stealing it.

  29. jjackwagon said:
    March 30, 2018 at 11:30 am
    A lot of teams have finally wised up to the idea that if BB is willing to let someone go…that player is probably done.
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    I guess you forgot about Chandler Jones and Jamie Collins. Also, LaGarrette Blount had a decent year for the Eagles. They got a good return for Jones, they didn’t miss Blount, but pretty much gave Collins away, just like Garappolo. Financially, all of the moves made sense, but they have, very recently, been willingly to let go of some players who weren’t done.

  30. Why are you all buying this BS? He lost the SB to a backup QB and is upset so he’s doing anything to get your attention.

    He isn’t retiring. He gets hurt every year but still gets paid. Why would he give that up? He doesn’t even have to invest 5 months of playing either.

    Cut the crap!

  31. let me take this opportunity to remind all that we have like an .800 win % without gronk. so yea theres that. and by the way if you havent seen his unsportsmalike comedy show, dont ruin your day. he is absolutely NOT funny.

  32. I see the legion of obnoxious Patriot fan-boys are down voting. I didn’t say Gronk was bad. I was saying he’s clearly injury prone, the injuries are taking their toll and he’s most likely a one-year rental kind of player.

    Let’s face it, he hasn’t even started two-thirds of the games the past six years because of all the games missed with injury. And while he’s good, you’re rolling the dice with an injury prone TE who openly mulling retirement.

  33. Would it be the “Patriot Way” if the Pats knew Gronk was going to retire, and, traded him, secure in that knowledge, for draft picks/players? Surely the Pats would not do that to screw another team would they?

  34. jjackwagon says:
    March 30, 2018 at 11:30 am
    A lot of teams have finally wised up to the idea that if BB is willing to let someone go…that player is probably done. So far Jimmy G is the only player that has gone on to success elsewhere

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    Adam V begs to differ….but he was probably let go before you started watching football

  35. you said on radio for a 1st round pick. That’s ridiculous. any team that does that should be stripped of their franchise. he might be worth a 4th at best. I wouldn’t give more than a 6th.

  36. Has anyone considered that one reason he may be contemplating retirement is because he’s tired of playing for BB and that perhaps he’d play longer in a different setting? I know that’s heresy to certain east coasters, but it’s entirely possible.

  37. I doubt that the 49ers would trade for him because they have a rising star at the position. If Gronk is traded and he chooses to retire then the trade would be invalid. Therefore New England will not gain anything by trading him.

  38. purpleguy says:
    March 30, 2018 at 12:38 pm

    Has anyone considered that one reason he may be contemplating retirement is because he’s tired of playing for BB and that perhaps he’d play longer in a different setting? I know that’s heresy to certain east coasters, but it’s entirely possible.
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    Why would he get tired of playing for a winner? How hard can it be? I guess if he wants more money he might have to go somewhere else, but losing all of the time would probably be a drag to someone that is used to winning.

  39. suite34 says:
    March 30, 2018 at 11:10 am
    It’s no secret Gronk has grown tired of the “Patriot Way.” Can you imagine Gronk let loose on the streets (and clubs) of LA?


    I actually find this a funny comment – best of day. Because ultimately while Pats fans are about names, Gronk’s personality would be so much better suited for LA or NYC. He should do his thing.

  40. Why would he get tired of playing for a winner? How hard can it be? I guess if he wants more money he might have to go somewhere else, but losing all of the time would probably be a drag to someone that is used to winning.
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    Yep, because no one else wins except the Pats.

  41. Why are you all buying this BS? He lost the SB to a backup QB and is upset so he’s doing anything to get your attention.

    He isn’t retiring. He gets hurt every year but still gets paid. Why would he give that up? He doesn’t even have to invest 5 months of playing either.

    Cut the crap!

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    Because he could make similar money & not get hurt? And HE didnt lose the SB to a backup. Belichek & Brady did. Can’t give them credit for wins without blame for losses.

  42. Yep, because no one else wins except the Pats

    No one wins at the record clip and with unwavering consistency he’s used to.

  43. Gronkowski is supposedly being recruited by the Rock to do some movies. I dont blame him for walking away after all the back issues.

  44. A lot of teams have finally wised up to the idea that if BB is willing to let someone go…that player is probably done
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    Adam Vinatieri
    Lawyer Milloy
    Wes Welker
    Asante Samuel
    Ty Law
    Richard Seymore
    Vince Wilfork

  45. This will only be a value play for BB. If whatever Gronk and Rosenhaus are asking for exceeds the value BB puts on the role then he will be traded (if he gets value in return) or forced to hold out. Which basically means BB controls Gronk’s future in the league not the other way around. The trade value right now is low because the other team wouldn’t know if he’s playing or not and aren’t guaranteed more than a year of service. As much as BB is willing to let players go he’s also done it to keep others e.g. Seymor to pay Vince

  46. @aarons444 don’t know exactly what you mean by that comment because other than vince wilfork and ty law all of those guys played at least one mif not not several seasons with average to above average play. Vinatieri is still kicking in Indy, wes welker had a few years, although with an injury or 2, with peyton manning, lawyer milloy and asante samuel both were great players for my Atlanta Falcons and Richard Seymour had a couple ok years in Oakland. So not sure if you were being sarcastic or not but those players were decent post-patriots. If there is gonna be a Gronk trade, by all means we would love to have in the ATL. Matt Ryan with Julio Jones, Sanu, Devonta Freeman, Tevin Coleman, Austin Hooper AND Rob Gronkowski?!? WOW!!

  47. It is no secret that the majority of players want out of NE. The BB culture is toxic and they don’t get paid. Horrible work environment says my friend that plays for the team.

  48. Not sure whether or not it would be worth the price, but I wondered as soon as Ebron was released if Bob Quinn would try to trade for Gronk. Giving Stafford a monster tight end who can actually get open and catch the ball would be awesome for the Lions.

  49. It is no secret that the majority of players want out of NE. The BB culture is toxic and they don’t get paid. Horrible work environment says my friend that plays for the team.
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    If all you want is a payday, sure, that’s probably not the place for you.

    But how many veterans who played for cr@p organizations would DIE to be a part of that culture? To play for the best head coach of the era, to assuredly WIN?

    .. I’ll tell you whats toxic, a yahoo that tells the world how great he is, only to lose every big game he coaches.

  50. NE is great at trading Vets for high picks, but if they get a #1 for a beat up, soon to be retired Gronk the NFL will need a Special Prosecutor appointed to find out how they did it

  51. Could Gronk be traded?

    Dumb question. Yes. Aside from those with no-trade clauses, every NFL player CAN be traded. If someone offered 5 first round picks to the Eagles for Carson Wentz, Nick Foles would be the Eagles’ new starting QB.

  52. jjackwagon says:
    March 30, 2018 at 11:30 am
    A lot of teams have finally wised up to the idea that if BB is willing to let someone go…that player is probably done. So far Jimmy G is the only player that has gone on to success elsewhere(but the JG sample size is to small to know for sure) and that was done without BB’s blessing.

    That said, there will be some sucker out there that will take the chance.

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    I am a Patriots fan but I agree with you
    100%.

  53. It is no secret that the majority of players want out of NE. The BB culture is toxic and they don’t get paid. Horrible work environment says my friend that plays for the team

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    Yes—there’s that, and of course the extra month of work every year and all those heavy Super Bowl rings you have to lug around. I mean, we all totally get how rough that must be…

  54. Gronk is worth a swap in picks at this point. ie. Gronk and a 5th for a 3rd sounds reasonable.

  55. Haters think Gronk is not worth much till their teams start going and getting Gronk. They hate the Patriots till their teams get anybody with Patriots’ pedigrees.

  56. Gronk isn’t retiring, and I could see him playing many more years in LA for the Rams or Chargers. If you are trading for Gronk, even if he misses 4 games he still forces 12 opponents to game plan around him. Show me how many first round picks will measure up to that in 2018.

  57. If a team is willing to take the risk, pay him top TE money, and give the Patriots a first or more, I could see NE moving on from a player like him.

    They did it with Richard Seymour.

    Even with his games missed due to injury, he’s still the NFL’s best TE for production. And that doesn’t even count that he’s as good of a blocker as a receiver.

    Will someone give that up? probably not. Therefore he’s probably not tradable, because I doubt the Patriots are going to let him go for less.

  58. Maybe the 49ers would overpay for Gronk since they obviously underpaid for Jimmy!?! I think that would be a win-win. I also think Gronk for Aaron Donald would be cool. But I am a Pat’s fan!

  59. Lol at a 1st rounder for an injury prone 29 year old TE who keeps talking about retirement. If New England could wrangle a late 2nd rounder and a conditional future 4th or 5th they should be all over it.

  60. tylawpicksix is the worst poster I’ve seen on this site. He is the type of Pats fan who is gloating and cheering when they win and then when things don’t go his way, he is quick to bash their top players

  61. Everyone thinks SF or LA would be a great fit as he wants to move into entertainment, but the Rams have little cap space available with Suh signing. (10M-but still need most of that for rookies) Either get Suh to extend/restructure contract to reduce his 14M 2018 cap hit or Rams would have to make room somewhere else. The Chargers are also restricted by Cap Space, with about 12M left. Either team need only 7M in extra cap space to add him, so there are plenty of options. SF has lots of Cap space, so that is more likely the spot if he comes to West coast.

    I hope Gronk stays where he is or at least not show up in the NFC West. While I really think the West overall is getting better, enough is enough.

  62. richabbs says:
    March 30, 2018 at 11:56 am
    jjackwagon said:
    March 30, 2018 at 11:30 am
    A lot of teams have finally wised up to the idea that if BB is willing to let someone go…that player is probably done.
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    I guess you forgot about Chandler Jones and Jamie Collins. Also, LaGarrette Blount had a decent year for the Eagles. They got a good return for Jones, they didn’t miss Blount, but pretty much gave Collins away, just like Garappolo. Financially, all of the moves made sense, but they have, very recently, been willingly to let go of some players who weren’t done.

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    Chandler Jones needed to be given a lot of money or he was gone for nothing the following year. That one year remaining on his contract was value that could be traded. Plus he had recently shown of at the Foxboro police department demanding medical attention because “he had smoked too much pot” (yes thats a quote if what he was laying on the desk seargent). So that sounds like a suspension just waiting to happen, getting something for him was a good move.

    Jamie Collins was n athletic freak that was not into following the play nor coaches instructions. He routinely abandoned his assignments to try to make his own plays. Being an athletic feak some of those did work out. But a lot more of them were costing the Pats via blown assignments. In his last game he did this twice and each time resulted in points for 5he other team. On the first one he abandoned his gap for another one and left the opening that cost a big gain furst down on a third and long. The Buffalo coach had noticed he was coming off his assignments so they used a little misdirection then sent their RB through the open gap. Later in the game he decided on his own he wanted in on a special teams play and stayed on the field. The Patriots hat to call a time out to avoid the 12 nan penalty. Then during the time out he continued to refuse to leave the field so the Pats did end up eating a 12 man after the timeout. Meanwhile he was demanding huge money and going to leave for no return if he didnt get it.

    Garrapolo had not done anything wrong like the above but still if that trade did not get made right then and there, they lose him for nothing. So they got him out of the AFC to a team that barring a SB matchup he is not likely to be a thorn in their side they gave to face a lot. And those that dont like the second round pick in return are forgetting that its more than the zero they were getting for him if they didnt trade him in the next 48 hiurs. They did hang on to him as long as they could trying to find a way to keep him.

  63. patsfan4lifesbchamps says:
    March 30, 2018 at 4:01 pm
    jjackwagon says:
    March 30, 2018 at 11:30 am
    A lot of teams have finally wised up to the idea that if BB is willing to let someone go…that player is probably done. So far Jimmy G is the only player that has gone on to success elsewhere(but the JG sample size is to small to know for sure) and that was done without BB’s blessing.

    That said, there will be some sucker out there that will take the chance.

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    I am a Patriots fan but I agree with you
    100%.

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    Not actually a Pats fan, and everyone here knows it but, whatever. The thinking here is that subterfuge isn’t one of your core strengths.

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