Hue Jackson has dreams of what to do with No. 4

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The Browns are past the point of lying about what they intend to do with the first overall pick.

What they intend to do with the fourth one is enough to get coach Hue Jackson excited, as well.

“Obviously, as you guys have already pegged it, we’re taking a quarterback, and then here comes the No. 4 pick,” Jackson said, via Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer. “We need impact football players, period, and that’s part of where we are. So here’s another opportunity to put some impact players on our team that can help us get to winning as fast as we can.”

Toward that end, Jackson admitted the idea of pairing N.C. State defensive end Bradley Chubb with last year’s No. 1 overall pick, defensive end Myles Garrett, was something he has been dreaming of.

“I do at nighttime when I’m by myself,” Jackson said. “You kind of play that scenario game with all these different guys. I wish I could have them all. There will be good scenarios as we come down to the end here.”

Chubb would be among the possibilities if quarterbacks go with the first three picks, along with running back Saquon Barkley and defensive back Minkah Fitzpatrick. The Browns roster is such that any of the three could make an immediate impact, but having a pair of pass-rushers is a tantalizing thought.

General Manager John Dorsey said there were some similarities between Chubb and Garrett, but important differences as well.

“Very similar, [but] two different players,” Dorsey said. “They play the game in different levels. Myles is such an athletic [player], to me, he’s more like Julius Peppers in terms of his movement skills and his length and how he plays. Chubb plays the game a little bit differently, but he’s still an unbelievable defensive prospect for this draft.”

And that’s the kind of thing that could keep the Browns up at night for the next month.

37 responses to “Hue Jackson has dreams of what to do with No. 4

  1. The only wildcard to the Brownies getting both Darnold and Barkley is if the Giants decide to grab whichever one they don’t select first.

  2. vaphinfan says:
    March 30, 2018 at 9:52 am
    Any coach/gm passes on Barkley should be fired on the spot.

    I disagree. Yes I believe in best player on the board, but I also think that has to be tempered with what you need. If you were going BPOTB then Barkley would have to go first because he is likely the rawest talent out there. But then at 2 and 3 you have to consider Chubb, Fitzpatrick, etc. Which then risks passing on the QB of your choice because not everyone is playing the best player game.

    You have to play your needs, the draft board, and the other clubs which isn’t as black and white as “he should be fired on the spot.”

  3. They should take the Barkley #1 then grab the last of the three QBs remaining at #4(assuming the other two go at #2 and #3). The reason is, they will surely pick the wrong QB at #1. This way they get the best RB in the draft and they still get a QB.

    The other way (grabbing a QB 1) will ensure they get the wrong QB, and also miss out on the RB – which can greatly help the development of the new QB. A DE, or a guy at another position, won’t do that.

  4. The problem with taking Barkley is Hue Jackson won’t use him that much. Go back and look at how many times Cleveland chose to run the ball even with that turnover machine QB Kizer. Some coaches won’t commit to the run and Hue Jackson is one of them! Haslam should’ve fired him! Pathetic!

  5. “Only in Cleveland can a coach go 1-31 in two years and keep his job.”

    HATE it when people say this. Hue Jackson might indeed end up not being a very good HC, but you can not judge this by the past two seasons. Bill Bellichick himself could not have done much better with the talent he was given. Yeah… the Hoody might have been 4-28, but is that really any better. Cleveland finally has an actual NFL GM for the first time since 1999. And a real front office… not accountants playing GM… or ex salary cap experts playing President and GM. No, they have an actual GM now. So, let’s see what Hue Jackson can do with a somewhat decent team.

  6. Actually, the Browns could get a RB later, say Sony Michel, in the 2nd round. Barkley would be a luxury, but not a necessity for the Browns. If they can stop the other team from scoring by drafting players for each level of the defense, then the offense can be filled in later.

  7. The Browns should take Barkley at 1 and Chubb at 4. Then trade up and grab Lamar Jackson in the middle to end of the 1st round. The Browns need to grab playmakers on both sides of the ball. Why reach for a QB when there is better players available.

  8. I honestly think QB then Barkley is their best path with one and four. Chubb is nice sure but they do have some decent defensive pieces already so adding that one two puch to the offense will help a lot more. The Giants might take Chubb anyhow and its moot if they do. If the Giants took Barkely the Chubb does become obvious. (Note – I dont think the Giants are going QB and I am positive the Jets are. If I am wrong on that then…)

    But this is the Browns so maybe they trade one of those picks to the Pats for Gronk. Who then tears it up through training camp and the preseason then retires.

  9. ZERO chance Barkley makes it past the Giants. I think the Browns are making a mistake again…I don’t know if any of these QB’s are really franchise changers. I mean maybe…I was wrong about Wentz/Geoff. But I feel even more strongly that there is not a QB worth a top 5 pick this year. Barkley is a beast. They should take him and then either draft a QB at 4 or trade down if the guy they want is gone.

  10. Good. Whether they hit or not, it’s the right choice for the Browns to select what they think is the best QB of the 2018 class.

    Browns fans should finally be relieved they aren’t going to purposefully pass up a top QB.

  11. The Browns should troll the entire league and take two QBs with #1 and #4. But it actually could work if they have an open competition in training camp, then trade the one they don’t like.

  12. Please stop speaking Hue. I’ve been so excited about the off season so far along with the upcoming draft, but when I hear him speak it’s the same thing as feeling a sinus infection coming on. Terror is coming.

  13. Cleveland will be drafting Darnold and Chubb in that order. If they had designs on Barkley, they wouldn’t/shouldn’t have given Hyde starter money. Oh wait, it’s Cleveland we are talking about. Nevermind!

  14. Most important position in NFL is QB. Second most important is edge rusher. And, third is left tackle. I think that says it all. Although the only other possibility I can see is Quenton Nelson and moving Bitonio to left tackle

  15. For funsies, let’s pretend that the Big 4 QBs (Allen, Darnold, Mayfield, Rosen) all become stars except one who becomes a big bust. The Browns will invariably select that guy.

  16. this is pretty masterly for a smoke screen….browns say they want chubb at the 4 spot, to make the giants take him at the 2nd pick, now presumably 2 of the top 4 qbs will be available at #4, this is probably a condition for a trade with the bills…’if our guy is there at 4 we want to trade with you’. so the bills trade with the browns for the 4 spot and the browns move back and pick up 2 first rounders at 12 and 22. 3 first rounders in one draft is a good move by the browns and hopefully the bills get rosen

  17. It’s the AFC North. You have to have a great defense. Not a good one, a great one. The teams the thrive in the AFCN have always had top tier defenses. Sure the stealers also had a great offense and the Ravens had a very good offense but they made sure their defenses were scary first and foremost. Everything good in the AFCN springs forth from a nasty, vengeful and hate-filled defense. Just like our weather.

    Take Chubb, Minkah or Ward at 4.

  18. Grab Barkley and an offensive lineman. No QB is worth a first rounder in this draft.

  19. I think Giants are going to draft Chubb – or a QB – either way, Barkley is there at 4. If they have a choice of Barkley or Chubb – I’d love to see them give Barkley a shot.

  20. Blame Hue for the 1-31 all you want. He is just part of the script as drawn up by the analytics approach. The Sashi Brown exit was also part of the plan. What you see now is Dorsey filling in depth at all positions. With 4 of the top 35 picks plus 1 at the end of the 2nd round the Browns have positioned themselves to build a competitive team almost overnight. All of this and still $72M of cap space. Anything said now is smoke.

  21. They take Barkley at #1 and then trade #4 to the desperate Bills for everything but the kitchen sink. Giants take Rosen and then Jets take Mayfield or Allen. The only way the Bills will get a real QB is to trade that spot because the Broncos are next. Lamar Jackson is good but not in the same top 4. Browns would be wise unless they love Saquon or Chubb or Fitzpatrick. The Bown could be solid in a year from now. The olny problem is paying everyone in 2-3 years from now. The Rams are going to learn this next year.

  22. “They take Barkley at #1 and then trade #4 to the desperate Bills for everything but the kitchen sink.”

    That would be the smart thing to do. Will they do it? And even if they do, will they draft useless turnstiles again?

  23. Draft Barkley#1 And Trade the for pick to buffalo for there 12 and 22 pick and a 2nd or 3rd in 2019 then Draft (Jackson or Rudolph) then Grab best DE (Davenport or Hurbbard)or swap the order their way you have maximize your WINNING able.

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