Trading Gronk wouldn’t be out of character for Belichick

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Most teams wouldn’t be eager to trade a 28-year-old future Hall of Famer with two more years on his contract at affordable salaries. But the Patriots aren’t like most teams.

So the talk that Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski could be traded has to be taken seriously, given the history of Patriots coach Bill Belichick wanting to move on from players too early, rather than too late.

Belichick would much rather trade a player away when he can still get something valuable for him, rather than wait until that player gets older and loses a step, or until that player’s contract makes him harder to afford, or until that player hits free agency and leaves without the Patriots getting anything in return.

The list of noteworthy players that Belichick has traded is long. Randy Moss, Chandler Jones, Jamie Collins, Richard Seymour, Logan Mankins, Mike Vrabel, Deion Branch, Drew Bledsoe, Matt Cassel, Jimmy Garoppolo and Jacoby Brissett, to name a few, have been sent packing by Belichick.

Albert Breer of SI.com reported that two teams are planning to make offers to the Patriots for Gronk. If those offers are good enough, it wouldn’t be at all surprising to see a trade made on draft day.

104 responses to “Trading Gronk wouldn’t be out of character for Belichick

  1. The Seahawks need to walk away from any ide of picking up Gronk.
    They wouldn’t know how to use him.
    I’d bet Jimmy Graham will have an all-star year.

  2. He needs to be traded to LA.

    1) Gronk could retire if he isn’t traded to a contender.

    and

    2) Gronk wants to a “Hollywood” star. So put him where he wants to go. If he retires…trade might not happen to the other 30 teams.

    Rams 1st in 2019 and 3rd in 2018 would be sufficient.

  3. The Patriots seem to give away players. They traded Jimmy G only for a second round pick. Offer them a 3rd or 4th and they will give you Gronk.

  4. Gronk spent the day doing work for the Make A Wish Foundation around the NE hospitals. That’s something that’s actually true vs all the darts on the wall speculation.

  5. Interesting idea. A trade would answer some questions. I have to believe that no team would trade for him without assurances that he would not retire soon. If he did accept a trade there would probably be some monetary settlement, AKA a new contract. Having said all that a trade would answer the loyalty questions, the I’ll only play with TB thing and all. I hope someone offers number 1 plus, it may work,

  6. .
    Neither Gronk or his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, have ever publicly expressed an interest in a trade. In addition, if he was going to retire, wouldn’t he have done it by now?
    .

  7. Garoppolo wasn’t sent packing, they kept him as long as they realistically could once they decided to stay all-in on Brady.

  8. Usually BB is in control of the player. Shoe is on the other foot this year and BB seems to be sweating it a bit. Talk of Gronk leaving and the thought of no Tom might have BB looking at an exit plan. Not this year … but he’s thinking.

  9. this would be one trade the Patriots would be foolish to make. Everything in the NFL is a gamble. If Gronkowski is healthy, you still have the ultimate weapon. It’s impossible to cover him.

  10. Any legit contender needs to take a hard look at Gronk. He can be a major factor for a Super Bowl winner. Look at how different the Pats are without him. Think what Gronk could do in 2018 with the Saints, Steelers, Eagles, Rams, and Vikings. I think its a slap in Gronk’s face to say he isn’t worth at least a 2nd round pick. Wouldn’t you give that much up if it was the difference in hoisting the Lombardi trophy?

  11. tombradyisgod says:
    April 2, 2018 at 6:11 pm
    Bye bye Gronk
    We’ve won 2 Super Bowls without you
    Enjoy the motor city and 7-9 seasons

    4 11 Rate This
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    He didn’t play against the falcons but he did play against the Seahawks and scored a td before halftime. For someone who calls Brady God you don’t know the team history

  12. derekleblanc says:
    April 2, 2018 at 6:44 pm
    tombradyisgod says:
    April 2, 2018 at 6:11 pm
    Bye bye Gronk
    We’ve won 2 Super Bowls without you
    Enjoy the motor city and 7-9 seasons

    4 11 Rate This
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    He didn’t play against the falcons but he did play against the Seahawks and scored a td before halftime. For someone who calls Brady God you don’t know the team history

    Pats and Brady actually won 4 SB’s without Gronk.

  13. Any legit contender needs to take a hard look at Gronk. He can be a major factor for a Super Bowl winner. Look at how different the Pats are without him. Think what Gronk could do in 2018 with the Saints, Steelers, Eagles, Rams, and Vikings. I think its a slap in Gronk’s face to say he isn’t worth at least a 2nd round pick. Wouldn’t you give that much up if it was the difference in hoisting the Lombardi trophy?
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    I’d take him on the Steelers in a heartbeat. But BB would never deal w/ PIT. If they could do it, due diligence is a must.

  14. The Pats have Gronk at a good price. No way they trade him, especially when there is no truth to recent stories.

  15. If he trades him then it’s further confirmation that he really thinks it’s all about him.
    Sitting Butler will never be truly forgiven.
    Philly fans are thankful, Bill.
    Nice job…

  16. belichickdominatedjoemontana says:
    April 2, 2018 at 6:15 pm
    He needs to be traded to LA.

    1) Gronk could retire if he isn’t traded to a contender.

    and

    2) Gronk wants to a “Hollywood” star. So put him where he wants to go. If he retires…trade might not happen to the other 30 teams.

    Rams 1st in 2019 and 3rd in 2018 would be sufficient

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    A first and third? Dream on. Lucky to get a 7th

  17. suncawy says:
    April 2, 2018 at 6:28 pm
    The Patriots seem to give away players. They traded Jimmy G only for a second round pick.
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    Folks keep repeating that but it’s at best half a picture – they really also (in all but name) got Hoyer in that trade, with salary paid for by 9ers and contract cleared. Hoyer might not be worth much to most teams, but as a ready made Patriot-trained backup and good friend of Brady he’s worth a lot more than a 1st/2nd rd pick. Furthermore, Brady isn’t a noodled Manning, Brady is still playing at his peak and likely to do so for another 2yrs and prob still be good-enough to start for another 2 after that. The Pats couldn’t afford to hold both guys so a 2nd rd and a solid backup QB is a hell of a lot better than the absolute nothing they’d have otherwise got this offseason.

  18. Again you have it backwards, Gronkowski is shooting himself out of town plain and simple. Stop making it seem belichick is going to tuck it to him. He DOESN’T want to be there

  19. bradjames33160 says:
    April 2, 2018 at 6:42 pm
    this would be one trade the Patriots would be foolish to make. Everything in the NFL is a gamble. If Gronkowski is healthy, you still have the ultimate weapon. It’s impossible to cover him.

    Ultimate weapon in Madden maybe. As a pats fan I have enjoyed Gronk being here but these memes have to die. If he was uncoverable they would have won SB52. Stop it. He also gets hurt a lot and he gets flagged out of proportion with how many flags go his way for a receiver who is uncoverable. Not his fault but it’s a fact that because he’s tall any hand contact looks like pushing off. (I know the “looks like a catch” crown will agree). Refs also let DBs hang on him from the snap. I submit Tredavious White your Honor. Bottom line, unless he’s 100% in I have no regrets if he goes.

  20. love gronk, he’s always done his job, but our trust in belichick is complete. when bill decides it’s his time they’ll be no looking back. one day the turk will come for brady too, the greatest football player of all time. sad, but the patriots are great because they are the ultimate darwinian meritocracy.

  21. The greatest tight end in the 98 yr history of the NFL. He is 28 yrs old coming off of a great season and super bowl, and some of you think he’s only worth a 7th round pick?

    So I guess every player drafted in this years draft is headed for the hall of fame, right?

    You posters are future NFL GM’s – everyone of you.

  22. bradjames33160 says:
    April 2, 2018 at 6:42 pm

    If Gronkowski is healthy, you still have the ultimate weapon. It’s impossible to cover him.
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    Yep. The Steelers don’t even try to.

  23. Belichick would be playing with fire if he traded away either of Brady’s favorite targets – Gronk or Edelman.

    Brady is at the tipping point himself.

  24. As a Pats fan, I never saw it coming when BB traded Lawyer Malloy, Richard Seymore, Logan Mankins, Branch or Bledsoe.

    So it would not surprise me now if Gronk was traded. Anything is possible.

  25. Effthecheatweaseltrolls says:

    April 2, 2018 at 8:02 pm

    bradjames33160 says:
    April 2, 2018 at 6:42 pm
    this would be one trade the Patriots would be foolish to make. Everything in the NFL is a gamble. If Gronkowski is healthy, you still have the ultimate weapon. It’s impossible to cover him.

    Ultimate weapon in Madden maybe. As a pats fan I have enjoyed Gronk being here but these memes have to die. If he was uncoverable they would have won SB52. Stop it. He also gets hurt a lot and he gets flagged out of proportion with how many flags go his way for a receiver who is uncoverable. Not his fault but it’s a fact that because he’s tall any hand contact looks like pushing off. (I know the “looks like a catch” crown will agree). Refs also let DBs hang on him from the snap. I submit Tredavious White your Honor. Bottom line, unless he’s 100% in I have no regrets if he goes.

    But hey, you can also drop elbow White out of bounds to make up for it if all else fails – true class and sportsmanship – the Patriot way. Sort of like Todd Marchant crosschecking a defenseless player in the chops – stay classy Beantown!

  26. Gronk to KC
    Expand the Air Reid offense.
    Ground, Hill, Watkins, Kielce, Mahomes that would be Big 12 scoring offense.

  27. Gronk to KC
    Expand the Air Reid offense.
    Gronk, Hill, Watkins, Kielce, Mahomet that would be Big 12 scoring offense.

  28. It is impossible to cover him, especially with the way he pushes off all the time are rarely gets called.

  29. Belichick hates everybody, including himself. Nothing makes the GOAT coach happy. He is a very unpleasant person and his players hate him. But, the same can be said about Lombardi.

  30. Yet, Brady goes untraded at 40 with max trade value and minimum years left.

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    If it were up to Bill B, that might be different. Tommy is the son Bob Kraft always wanted. He forced Belichick to trade Garoppolo when Brady felt threatened. If that isn’t telling about Jimmy’s upside and what he showed in Pats practices, nothing is.

  31. Considering the success of the Patriots without Gronkowski, I can guess that they’ll be alright if they trade him off. He’s a fantastic weapon to have but their offense barely acknowledges he’s out when he’s injured.

  32. Meh I don’t know if trading Gronk is wise. He turned off alot of that locker room benching Butler for the entire superbowl and i think it hurt them in retaining key free agents and getting new ones.

    BB’s ny way ir the highway routine worked for a long time,but guys are starting to see they can have fun AND a chance to win on other teams.

    League parity is at an all time high and Brady is 41. Trading their best weapon he could throw to would probably be the last nail in the coffin for the Pats dynasty. But it was a hell of a run

  33. theringisthething says:
    April 2, 2018 at 8:34 pm
    The greatest tight end in the 98 yr history of the NFL. He is 28 yrs old coming off of a great season and super bowl, and some of you think he’s only worth a 7th round pick?

    So I guess every player drafted in this years draft is headed for the hall of fame, right?

    You posters are future NFL GM’s – everyone of you

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    Please, “ greatest TE in the 98 years of the NFL” take off your rose colored glasses, Shannon Sharpe, Antonio Gates, Tony Gonzalez. Gronk is talking retirement, past injuries including multiple concussions, herniated disc, MCL tear ACL tear, back vertebral fracture, Arm fracture. Okay he’s worth a 1st round pick😂

  34. The Truth says:
    April 2, 2018 at 7:50 pm
    Again you have it backwards, Gronkowski is shooting himself out of town plain and simple. Stop making it seem belichick is going to tuck it to him. He DOESN’T want to be there.

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    That’s not true either. All the same people that are reporting his unhappiness say that he only wants to play with Brady.

    Also his salary this year I think will be the highest for a TE in the league. He’s not going to get much out of a trade.

  35. omeletpants says:
    April 2, 2018 at 7:11 pm
    Gronkowski is the single most disruptive force in the NFL
    __________________
    Off the field.

  36. It wouldn’t be out of character for Belichick. It would be STUPID, but it would not be out of character for him to do such a thing as trade Gronk.

  37. It’s amazing to me that some fans think trading a QB for a high second round pick for only a fraction of a season was giving a guy away. For a full season, Yeah I can see your point. A second round pick wouldn’t be much compensation. The 9ers traded a high pick for a few weeks.

  38. I’d love it if he came to the Vikings! We have Kyle Rudolph who is a decent pass catching TE, but he is terrible in the blocking game. Gronk would be great at blocking and catching. I doubt he comes to MN thou. But who knows. I think if the Pats were to trade him it would be to a non AFC team.

  39. The Haters are all up in arms and yet writer has either Gronk or BB on the record saying anything about anything. It’s almost sad that you continually get your hopes up time after time only to have them dashed in the end.

  40. especially if the rumors are true that there is tension between the three. If this is his last year with the Pats. What better way to “screw” them than to trade away key players?

  41. NinersFan1973 says:
    April 3, 2018 at 9:22 am
    At this point, trading Gronk would be like daring Brady to retire.
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    LOL.

    People made similar comments when the Pats let Deion Branch walk; multiple Super Bowl appearances and Super Bowl wins for the Pats ago.

    People made similar comments when the Pats let Wes Welker walk; multiple Super Bowl appearances and Super Bowl wins for the Pats ago.

    According to Tom Curran, and as others have noted here, Gronk is only interested in playing with Tom Brady as his QB. If that is true then it is unlikely he is traded. If that is not true, and Gronk is traded, it remains likely that Brady leads the Pats to another AFC Championship game, and perhaps another Super Bowl, in early 2019.

  42. Before that dirty hit on a defenseless Tre White last season, it would have been sweet to have a Buffalo homecoming. Not so sure anymore.

  43. dwightiam says:
    April 3, 2018 at 9:34 am
    especially if the rumors are true that there is tension between the three. If this is his last year with the Pats. What better way to “screw” them than to trade away key players?

    ————

    You understand how nonsensical that is right? No NFL coach would intentionally sabotage their team.

    Stubbornness over his decision that Butler wasn’t ready to play in the Super Bowl, I agree with that. He made a bad choice there as things couldn’t have been much worse with Butler in there, and they went away from what they did all year.

    However, I do believe he really though Butler wasn’t ready to go and he made the call he thought was best for the team. It just didn’t work and he wasn’t willing to revert.

    That is nothing to do with intentional sabotage. The Patriots did make the Super Bowl. 30 other teams wished they were in that spot.

  44. If anything Gronk’s behavior prevents a trade. He’s due to be the top paid TE in 2018, he’s threatening retirement. How will a trade go through? He may just pack it in if he’s stuck with a bad QB. There’s only a few teams that could pull it off as he would need to be wooed.

    He’s been working out at the stadium. I am sure he and BB have talked. I don’t see a trade coming as long as he shows up to camp.

  45. joetorontoo says:
    April 3, 2018 at 10:15 am
    Before that dirty hit on a defenseless Tre White last season, it would have been sweet to have a Buffalo homecoming. Not so sure anymore.

    ————

    Tre White got a bloody lip and played the next game. Sure the hit was dirty and Gronk made a mistake, but it was overblown. People can be forgiven for such transgressions. Look and Blount. He used to be a head case. People are entitled to a few mistakes.

    I think the Buffalo fans would be pretty happy if they signed Gronk.

  46. Fans are people.
    People who like people.
    They’re the loveliest people on the earth.

    Fans like Gronk
    Gronk likes fans.
    Belly check likes …

    I don’t know, what does belly check like?

    Control?

    Get him a Napoleonic hat!

  47. alfredogarciashead says:
    April 3, 2018 at 9:47 am
    Yeah moving on from Garropolo will be looked at as pure genius. Not.

    ——————

    Brady put the team in a difficult spot by being so good. They had to keep him.

    For the long term health of the franchise it was the right call to keep Brady there.

    He will stay part of the healthy legacy of the franchise as opposed to what happened to Montana, Peyton and Favre where they aren’t really part of their teams any more.

    The Patriots want to be more like the Steelers, not the 49ers.

  48. I love it!!!!

    The media driven hype-bore

    The outlandish accusations of discord… hate… hurt feelings….hogwash I say!

    Mean while the same AFC team has been to the super bowl 3 out of the last 4 years….and won 2!

    This media driven trade rumor will never happen this season……bank on it

    I love how all the media turns it up when ever it comes to the Patriots.

    The hunger so bad for anything remotely disserving to the Patriots.

    They win and are one of the top 3 teams each year. Why can’t the media just let it go…..

  49. Gronk has more value to the Pats then trade value. Looks like Belichick is getting cranky in his old age and controlled by ego, he’s about to make the same mistake as he did with the Chandler Jones trade which cost the Pats a valuable edge rusher. When coaches start to get like that with decision making it’s a sign that retirement is near.

  50. crush22 says:

    April 3, 2018 at 8:15 am

    omeletpants says:
    April 2, 2018 at 7:11 pm
    Gronkowski is the single most disruptive force in the NFL
    __________________
    Off the field.

    =====================

    Yea visiting heart transplant patients is real distracting. You’re lack of evidence is deafening.

  51. steelercrazy says:

    April 3, 2018 at 10:57 am

    Gronk has more value to the Pats then trade value. Looks like Belichick is getting cranky in his old age and controlled by ego, he’s about to make the same mistake as he did with the Chandler Jones trade which cost the Pats a valuable edge rusher. When coaches start to get like that with decision making it’s a sign that retirement is near.

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    Pats have gone to 2 straight Super Bowls since the Chandler Jones trade.

  52. wib22 says:

    April 3, 2018 at 9:34 am

    Belicheat is losing his mind! Ground is the first of many patriot defects

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    You should probably learn a little more about Belichick’s history as GM. The only player he has bothered to keep around is Brady. Everyone else is replaceable.

  53. Great guy from what I’ve read, great tight end, unfortunately unsteady washed up physically at 28.

    Nobody will give even a 3rd rounder for him. Better off keeping him until him and Bill retire next year.

    And to you brainiacs who mention his lack of SB appearances, go back and look at how you got to those Super Bowls. Hint: it wasn’t the plethora of talent at WR.

  54. “If those offers are good enough, it wouldn’t be at all surprising to see a trade made on draft day.”

    Umm yeah. Isn’t that the essence of a trade? One team makes an offer and the other deems the offer good enough.

  55. The reason BB didn’t trade Brady was because Krafty S*#t his Long Johns at the thought of it. BB was all in on moving from the GOAT for some substantial picks and keeping Jimmy G. Granted they gave him away but that’s only because they were angry and wanted to teach Krafty a lesson in don’t mess with the football decisions.

  56. Fact. Billy who is wisely notorious for trading players too soon rather than too late wanted to ship Brady who was 40. Kraft said no and forced Belichick to trade a very good qb for peanuts in Jimmy G. Jimmy was the perfect replacement for Brady. Man, Pats are gonna regret this one.

  57. eaglesmaina says:
    April 3, 2018 at 2:02 pm
    ….
    And to you brainiacs who mention his lack of SB appearances, go back and look at how you got to those Super Bowls. Hint: it wasn’t the plethora of talent at WR.
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    Us brainiacs are well aware of the fact that the Patriots have reached the Super Bowl 8 times in the last 17 seasons because the Pats have had Bill Belichick, the Greatest Head Coach of All-Time during that period; the Pats have also had Bill Belichick, the Greatest General Manager of All-Time during that period. And last, but certainly not least, the Pats have had Tom Brady, the Greatest NFL Player of All-Time, during that period.

    The other coaches and 52 players on the roster are, frankly, just window dressing.

  58. “Great guy from what I’ve read, great tight end, unfortunately unsteady washed up physically at 28.”

    Lolz the things people here declare as fact.

    He played in 14 games plus the playoffs and Super Bowl last year.

    In the regular season he had 69 catches for 1084 yards, 15.7 yds/catch and 8 TDs.

    Yet you think that’s “washed up”?

    What a ridiculous statement.

  59. Many players were simply allowed to move on as free agents as well if their price tags are too high. That is the reality every team faces because of free agency and the salary cap.

  60. .
    Neither Gronk or his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, have ever publicly expressed an interest in a trade. In addition, if he was going to retire, wouldn’t he have done it by now?
    .

    Gronk and his agent don’t get a say in a trade. They just get a phone call telling them to turn in the playbook and pack his bags.

  61. If I were Gronk, I’d want to get paid for my worth. Gronk has grossly outperformed his contract. Why give your entire career earnings away to NE, who obviously does not value you, for if they did they would pay you for your worth. And to those who say Gronk was injured for 2 SB’s, well that’s football, players get injured. That’s not Gronk’s fault. That’s the reality of FB.

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