Kaepernick attended Newsome, Harbaugh depositions

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Quarterback Colin Kaepernick finally arrived at the Ravens’ facility. But he wasn’t there to sign a contract. He was there to witness a stream of questions arising from the fact that he was never offered one.

CBS Sports reports that Kaepernick exercised his prerogative to personally attend the depositions of G.M. Ozzie Newsome and coach John Harbaugh.

In many cases, it’s critical for the party who initiated a grievance or lawsuit to attend depositions because that person can help the lawyer frame follow-up questions based on first-hand interactions with the witnesses. Kaepernick had limited, if any, interactions with Newsome or Harbaugh; still, being there shows his commitment to the effort to prove that the NFL and its teams acted with coordination in avoiding him.

And that’s really what any collusion case is. The basis for the collusion doesn’t matter. If these 32 supposedly independent businesses coordinate in any way when it comes to the collective work force, a violation of the labor deal.

The collusion/coordination can be over anything, legitimate or illegitimate. In this case, the fact that collusion/coordination may have happened over such a polarizing topic (Kaepernick’s role in starting the anthem protests) has made the collusion case necessarily more polarizing, too. At its core, however, all that matters is whether collusion/coordination occurred. If it did, and if Kaepernick can prove it, the NFL has a problem.

48 responses to “Kaepernick attended Newsome, Harbaugh depositions

  1. It must be brutal hearing them say “We think his football acumen is low; just look at this play where he failed to recognize a completely uncovered receiver and never threw the ball. His accuracy is not good and we think he’s not the right fit in our area where there is a strong customer base who believes in police authority whom we do not wish to alienate.”

  2. lol…beautiful…look him in the eye and tell him RGIII and Ryan Mallet are better than him

  3. Did his girlfriend go too? She was a big factor in the discussions last year so perhaps her input would once again provide clarity on the situation.

  4. Wrong on several counts. He opted out after Kelly was fired. And Lynch told me on the record that if Kaepernick hadn’t opted out he would have been released. But, please, keep clinging to that narrative.

  5. ninerfan81 says:
    April 6, 2018 at 10:47 am
    lol…beautiful…look him in the eye and tell him RGIII and Ryan Mallet are better than him

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    RGIII IS better than Kaep. Heck, Blaine Gabbert proved to be better than Kaep.

  6. His problem will be the NFL is a sports “entertainment” business. That said, regardless of reason, NFL owners shy away from acquisitions (personnel or otherwise) that detrimental to profit. Problem NFL may have is the Union may be using CP as a cover to get the owners to open their books to show a monetary loss once CP started his kneeling. The union just wants to see the books for the upcoming labor war.

  7. What if there was no collusion? Some people just can’t believe that, nor behave or report such a possibility in a true neutral fashion.

  8. In the real world calling the owner of a business a racist, and a key employee an uncle Tom might reduce the accuser’s chances of employment by them. Yes, Ryan Mallet and RG3 are better then CK and his bloviating handler gf.

  9. Just go away Kap….you allowed a lot of outside issues and influence get in the way of your rare opportunity to have a career in the NFL….you lost your focus on the game, and that is it. You’ve become more of a political figure than a sports figure and that’s the problem.

  10. Well, Baltimore has been caught colluding (cheating) numerous times cheating before with Goodell.

    So, it’s certainly possible.

    Hey! I wonder if Goodell will be attending the Masters this year with Bisciotti?

  11. Kaepernick must be a glutton for punishment. I worked in major league baseball for more than 20 years and, as part of my responsibilities, helped prepare salary arbitration cases. More than one player commented after his hearing that he would never go through that again under any circumstances.

    Yes, determining salary is different than trying to find a job in the first place, but Kaepernick’s path seems very misguided to me. In deciding whether or not to acquire a player a team ALWAYS has to balance the BQ with the PQ, the Baggage Quotient with the Playing Quotient. If Kaepernick were really a good player, he would have been signed.

  12. I can’t possibly think Kaep really wants a job in the NFL. He turned down a contract worth millions. Then when the Ravens were considering him, his girlfriend tweeted that the Ravens organization was racist.

    He is a head case.

  13. Peoples Republic of PFT says:

    I believe this site reported that the Ravens were going to offer him a deal until his girlfriend got loose on twitter. If so seems like there’s no case.

    Please correct me if I’m wrong…
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    Yes. She even bashed Ray Lewis as he was with the owner trying to help get Kaepernick signed.

  14. …and who would want to hire this dude, knowing they could eventually be sucked into this mess?

  15. Lesson to you young whipper snappers, when you are at work…especially..put your head down and work your butt off, America will reward you. Your boss doesn’t care about your feelings on statues and the such. Kap made millions in order to waste it on his legal team, not everyone is that lucky.

  16. Mike Florio says:
    April 6, 2018 at 10:52 am
    Wrong on several counts. He opted out after Kelly was fired. And Lynch told me on the record that if Kaepernick hadn’t opted out he would have been released. But, please, keep clinging to that narrative.

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    Lynch has stated that he was in fact going to release Kaepernick anyways. He opted out to get a head start on finding a new team. Florio is right here, but let the down votes flood in.

  17. Peoples Republic of PFT says:
    April 6, 2018 at 10:45 am
    I believe this site reported that the Ravens were going to offer him a deal until his girlfriend got loose on twitter. If so seems like there’s no case.

    Please correct me if I’m wrong…
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    You’re wrong! It’s not about that or if they would have offered him a contract. It’s about whether there was any discussion between the Ravens, the league office, or another team about Kaepernick and his protests that kept him out of the league. You may not like it but it is what it is. And what’s happening with Reid says somewhere out there you will find a text, voice mail, a memo or someone who will tell the truth under oath.

  18. What if each team individually decided he wasn’t worth the distraction and protest? How can you prove otherwise unless there is a chain of emails or the like directly stating that no team is to sign him? The fact that the Ravens had him in for a visit counters the opinion that all the teams were in on it. Had that been the case he would have never gotten looks by Baltimore or Seattle. Case closed… next.

  19. ninerfan81 says:
    April 6, 2018 at 10:47 am
    lol…beautiful…look him in the eye and tell him RGIII and Ryan Mallet are better than him
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    They don’t have to be better, that’s the point that is missing here. This is a back position, “better” can mean serviceable and economical. Had Kap said “I’ll play for the league minimum” perhaps he’d be playing. I’m sure he didn’t say that, so add the protest from fans and added distraction and he’s absolutely not worth the cost, making RG3 the “better” back-up QB.

  20. guitarkevin says:
    April 6, 2018 at 11:42 am

    I can’t possibly think Kaep really wants a job in the NFL. He turned down a contract worth millions.
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    What contract was that?

  21. As an attorney, I can tell you there is no doubt in my mind that Kaepernick’s life is about his lawsuit, and he sees his collusion case as his last big payday, not playing. I cannot begin to tell you how many people I have seen, from the defense and plaintiff perspective, as well as in disability cases, where every decision they make is dictated by their pending case.

  22. Nobody wants me on their team, nobody wants me on their team, nobody wants me on their team, I am gonna sue the N.F.L.. That will get me on a team?!?!?!?

  23. Do i really think there is an email or document where the league conspires to keep Kaep out of the league? Not a chance

    Do i think that Kaep is a player who had a strong rookie season and instead of progressing, actually regressed the longer he was in the league? Yes

    Do I think that players are evaluated solely by their play on the field? Absolutely not

    Do i think that a player’s off the field activities will impact offers they receive? Yes

    Teams will do an assessment – what value does a player bring versus how much baggage do they have? Remember – players like Michael vick, Greg Hardy, Also Smith, etc get second chances – because the teams that sign them are willing to roll the dice because they feel the value they bring is > distractions. Look at LT. Possibly the greatest defensive player of all time. Played the game with sprained ankles, shoulders in a harness, etc. Brought it all day long. For that, the Giants overlooked a lot of things that were never reported at the time.

    Is Kaep a top 50 NFL QB? Probably. Can you sign someone for less money and less distractions, and probably get the same or better value? Absolutely.

    Its not collusion if you have been outspoken and people choose not to do business with you. Reasonable people can come to the same conclusion without it being a plot.

  24. Mike Florio says:
    April 6, 2018 at 10:52 am

    Wrong on several counts. He opted out after Kelly was fired. And Lynch told me on the record that if Kaepernick hadn’t opted out he would have been released. But, please, keep clinging to that narrative.

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    Whether Lynch would have released him or not, Kaepernick opted out of his contract. For that reason, Kaepernick alone is responsible for leaving the team. Since Lynch never had the opportunity to release the QB we’ll never know if he really would’ve followed through on that. Talking to you “on the record” has no legal standing; it’s hearsay.

    32 owners don’t have to collude for Kaepernick to be unemployed. Remove from the argument whether Kaepernick is an NFL caliber QB. What businessman would employ someone who deliberately alienates his clients? There’s a huge difference between collusion and consequence. Kaepernick is suffering the consequences of alienating the clients (fans) of the NFL.

  25. His lawyer is taking him for a ride. I see this so many times its hilarious. I’m waiting for the article where his lawyer files a petition to withdraw from the case for non-payment. Kap needs to fine tune his barista game in the meantime.

  26. mmack66 says:

    April 6, 2018 at 12:16 pm

    guitarkevin says:
    April 6, 2018 at 11:42 am

    I can’t possibly think Kaep really wants a job in the NFL. He turned down a contract worth millions.
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    What contract was that?

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    My apologies on the phrasing. I should have said he “opted” out of his contract. Which is pretty much worst. He had money coming to him. He didn’t have another team lined up either. Dude made his own bed and now he wants to cry about it and blame everyone else.

    On March 3, 2017, Kaepernick officially opted out of his contract with the 49ers, an option as part of his restructured contract, therefore making him a free agent at the start of the 2017 league year.

  27. How about they can run their team however they want and if they don’t want a circus don’t hire a clown.

  28. I’m sorry, but no team is obligated to sign any particular player. And they can use whatever screening and decision process they choose. The Ravens thought RGIII was a better option, so be it. The Vikings opted for Cousins over Keenum. So be it. Decisions are made like this by every team all the time.

  29. Kaepernick’s quality of play does not justify any team signing him given the huge amount of baggage/headaches he would bring. Why would any team owner risk alienating its fan base and risk profits. Team owners don’t need to get together to “collude” on this, common sense business strategy dictates what any owner to do what is best for their respective teams.

  30. Much like the Democrats chasing Russian collusion, it doesn’t exist, even if it did, it’s next to impossible to prove and lastly, in the final analysis, it amounts to nothing of real importance. My advice to Kaep, get rid of the girlfriend, spend a year in Canada playing up there and then show you really want to be part of a team.

    Until then, soak in your self-righteous SJW status and keep us all updated on how your actions are really changing the world as opposed to when you just kneeled to demonstrate your convictions.

  31. No team offered him a job because he is not any good anymore. The last year he played he won like 2 games. He’s past his prime and his salary is too high to be a second string quarterback. Now all he wants is the NFL to pay him money he is not due. He really has an ambulance chasing attorney.

  32. Two questions for Mike Florio. (And appreciate that you actually participate in the comments section. Props to you for that, sir.)

    1. Is it known whether Steve Bisciotti was depositioned also? And if not, why?

    2. Isn’t it a little odd that you don’t mention the Slave Master Tweet in your story? Seems like a relevant data point to the story.

    Thank you

  33. I like that this article sets all the explosive issues aside and simply tells the issue.

    Is “coordinate” a legal definition/standard? I hope that being coordinated/synchronized and colluding/conspiring are very different.

  34. Krapernick has been garbage since 2013. He’s gotten worser every year. He can’t read defenses, has terrible accuracy, cant see wide open recievers, misses wide open recievers, overthrows and underthrows everything, has no touch on short, mid or deep passes, every pass is a laser beam, doesn’t know how to stand in the pocket and go through his progressions, he makes one read then takes off running, he has no timing on his passes, cant throw recievers open before their brake on routes, cant throw screen passes, his mechanics are awful, he locks on one reciever, cant look off safeties, he’s an option pistol qb who couldn’t do anything else and got exposed after two years, he’s wildcat pistol gimmick qb who can’t improve his game and defenses figured him out and turned him into the worst qb in the NFL after two years, he got benched in the middle of the season for gabbert, the following year he lost his job to gabbert in training camp, the media had krapernick finished and done in the NFL before he Started crying about losing his job and sitting on the bench during the anthem, when the media reports his whiny tantrums during the anthem, he decides to flip the script and turn his crybaby tantrum into a “look at me ” sjw. He was an awful qb who the media had him finished and out of the NFL at the end of the year when sf was gonna cut him. Only when krapernick started protesting the anthem and became a full blown sjw did the media start kissing his behind and turned him into a circus demanding someone should give him a job because he’s still a good qb even though he’s been garbage for the past three years, lost his job to gabbert two years in a row, and lost ten games in a row, going 1-11 in his final season, after going 2-7 the year before. The media is joke and has no shame. Check out the krapernick news the media was talking before he Started protesting the anthem. The media kept it real then. The media spoke the truth about how awful of a qb he was, how he was the worst qb in the NFL and was finished because nobody wanted him. The media is no longer honest with integrity. It’s become a liberal political laughing stock turning away it’s sports fans. No respect for krapernick and the left wing sports media.

  35. If I was an NFL owner, I wouldn’t allow him to be signed. Why would I want a back up who is going to be a media focus, piss off two thirds of my fan base and is a loose cannon? Not to mention being at best a mediocre qb. I wouldn’t need to “collude” with anyone to decide that.

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