Report: Belichick ripped Gronk in front of teammates for using TB12 Method

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Talk that Patriots coach Bill Belichick and tight end Rob Gronkowski don’t see eye to eye may stem from the same source as the reports during the season that Belichick and Tom Brady weren’t seeing eye to eye.

The earlier reports centered around Brady and his trainer Alex Guerrero, and a new report says that Belichick got on Gronkowski’s case during the 2017 season because Gronk began following the teachings of Guerrero and Brady’s patented TB 12 Method.

The Boston Herald reports that Belichick chastised Gronk in front of teammates for being a TB12 client, an effort from Belichick to keep other players from following the instructions of Guerrero instead of the team’s training staff.

Whatever Guerrero is doing with Brady and Gronkowski, it seems to be working: Brady is still playing at an MVP level at age 40, and the oft-injured Gronkowski stayed healthy last season through the Super Bowl. So perhaps it would be wise for Belichick to ease up on his contempt for the TB12 Method.

116 responses to “Report: Belichick ripped Gronk in front of teammates for using TB12 Method

  1. Big deal! Guerrero is not an employee of the Patriots and has no business being in their locker room, trainer facilities nor sideline. BB has every right to kick him out. Gronk aint retiring. He is not Gronk without the NFL; he is another celebrity with no publicity. Pats got him for, I think 1 more years.Given the abuse his body has taken THEN he may retire.btw, I am a hoge Patriot fans

  2. I could see both Brady and Gronk suffering career ending injuries this year… ending, once and for all, the Patriots dynasty… Which, admittedly, is the greatest dynasty I have ever witnessed.

  3. Ummm Brady is an exception not the rule… and Gronk was hurt a couple of time this season. Fact is players have to listen to the training staff FIRST and then they can do whatever they want…..

  4. I don’t buy into all of the conspiracy theories that were swirling around The Patriots last year, but we all know that Bill is a control freak so I could definitely seem him having issues with an alternative method. I do think eventually he’s going to need to move to another team or retire when his owner stops letting him be a dictator to some of the favorite players.

  5. This smacks of the line that “if I didn’t come up with this idea I’m going to slam it.” Brady and Gronk are what moves the yard sticks. If BB can’t get that then he may be better off back in Cleveland where he came from. He will have a #1 QB pick there and can see if he can extend his coaching career.

  6. Why is this news? A coach doesn’t like an individual training method that a guy is implementing as he’s near retirement and making income plans for the future… The team employs 3-4 guys, quite a bit of money, to train these guys. Of course he doesn’t like it. I’d say most coaches would do the same.

  7. cueghost says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:11 am
    I could see both Brady and Gronk suffering career ending injuries this year… ending, once and for all, the Patriots dynasty… Which, admittedly, is the greatest dynasty I have ever witnessed.

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    Like throwing pennies in a fountain.

  8. To my knowledge the Steelers, 49ers, Cowboys dynasties never had to videotape their opponents. I was born at night, just not last night

  9. @cugehost

    Obviously you were born in the 90’s and have no knowledge of the yankees , celtics, ucla bruins, montreal canadiens or ny isladers

  10. They can do whatever they want on their own time. But when it conflicts with the team’s own training staff he has to set them straight.

  11. TB12 and Gronk are what made the Patriots champions. Ripping them in front of the team seems like a bad idea to me.

  12. I’m not a Pats fan but I’ve got nothing against Belichick, Brady or Gronk. Of course a head coach doesn’t want the star QB’s trainer to shill for their “patented training method” in the team’s facilities. Why would he?

    Replace TB12 with any other star-endorsed product. NFL trainers can easily tell players to eat a proper diet (and Brady’s is particularly strict, it seems) and how to train. Any interference from a personal trainer with a financial stake in a company is just muddying the waters with the other players on the team.

    Now, Belichick shouldn’t have gone at Gronk in front of teammates – I don’t agree with that. But then BB came from the Parcels camp and compared to Parcels, Belichick is a teddy bear.

  13. Im a Pats fan but I kind of see Bill’s point. He doesn’t TRULY know what’s in these products in the TB12 company. He’s probably worried about a PED being in there or something along those lines.
    He knows what his trainers are prescribing and they’re training methods.

  14. what pray tell does Guerrero’s methods have to do with Gronk not getting his knee blown out, or forearm broke?

  15. Since the NFL is all controlling…in this day and age I’m surprised that the NFL and it’s teams don’t dictate year round training regimens…something along the lines of voiding a product warranty…adhere the teams program all medical cost, game checks are covered for soft tissue injuries…if a player fails to adhere uses his own trainer then he pays all expenses for missed time.

    Watching the texans on hard knocks seemed the higher ups were pissed when Foster got hurt (soft tissue) and saw a connection to his own training regimen.

  16. it’s highly possible that Belichick is right. That the TB12 method isn’t leaving Gronk with the physical strength and speed to be as effective as he has been in the past despite the fact that it probably helps with injury prevention.

  17. And people still think the Jimmy G. trade was just “business”? Yeah right. Brady forced that to happen. I bet he knew Bill could see Jimmy was going to be pretty good.

  18. TB has lasted this long because the Refs won’t let another player breathe on him without a penalty.

  19. If you read the linked report it essentially just goes back to what we knew, that Belichick was unhappy with some players bypassing the staff and just seeing Guererro – who needed to be reined in a little. You can’t have that, because the staff drop out of the loop, and by making an example of Gronk showed it doesn’t matter how big you are on the team. I doubt Gronk was that upset – Belichick reportedly rips Brady a lot too. As to TB12 – Warren Moon didn’t have it and he played til he was 44.

  20. Whatever Guerrero is doing with Brady and Gronkowski, it seems to be working…So perhaps it would be wise for Belichick to ease up on his contempt for the TB12 Method.

    FWIW, Belichick’s methods with the Patriots have been working well too, for a long time.

    So there’s that…and the fact that Guerrero and BB have both stated they get along fine.

  21. The Truth says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:23 am
    @cugehost

    Obviously you were born in the 90’s and have no knowledge of the yankees , celtics, ucla bruins, montreal canadiens or ny isladers

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    Not really on the same level of a cap era dynasty that has created a cheating commissioner to try to keep parity in order to expand overseas.

    NE’s dynasty is clearly the greatest ever.

    8th straight conf title game coming up this year, quite possibly. The mere fact I can say “12-4+” every year and a “1 or 2 seed”, is proof.

  22. selgaeinla says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:25 am
    Looks like Lane Johnson was right all along.

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    All along when? He made those comments after the season was over.

  23. Every story you read just convinces me that this team is coming apart at the seams. The discord within the organization is unprecedented. Obviously, blowing a Superbowl has had a profound effect on this franchise which is spiraling out of control.

  24. “to my knowledge the steelers,49ers and cowboys never video taped opponents”…Cowher. Johnson and Walsh all admitted they did video opponents.

  25. beachsidejames says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:29 am
    TB12 and Gronk are what made the Patriots champions. Ripping them in front of the team seems like a bad idea to me.

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    Ripping them in front of the team is the culture. I am sure they are sick of it, but it’s nothing new. No special treatment. How else do you manage a guy that has been around 18 years and makes 20 million against a rookie that makes 200,000. it keeps the Patriots functioning as a team.

  26. takeyourpunishmentandquitwhininglikeababy says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:42 am
    Every story you read just convinces me that this team is coming apart at the seams. The discord within the organization is unprecedented. Obviously, blowing a Superbowl has had a profound effect on this franchise which is spiraling out of control.

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    You weren’t around in 2007 were you. That was 10x worse and the Patriots still prevailed. Long way to go before there’s any kind of spiral. This report is from a year ago.

  27. The Truth says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:23 am
    @cugehost

    Obviously you were born in the 90’s and have no knowledge of the yankees , celtics, ucla bruins, montreal canadiens or ny isladers

    Or quite frankly the Steelers, Niners, or Cowboys – all of whom have equal or more rings, and lost less games along the way. Understand those runs weren’t with the same guys, but they sure didn’t take as long. Niners got their rings in less time than it took the Patriots to do it. They won 5 in 13 years.

  28. badboysgetspanked says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:32 am
    Camelot is burning and Pats fans are delusional. Your nuclear winter is starting.

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    Because all their best players are returning, they have two 1st and two 2nd round picks, their coaching staff remains largely intact and they are coming off the Super Bowl in 3 of the last 4 years. If that is burning sign me up!

  29. sceaglesfan says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:21 am

    To my knowledge the Steelers, 49ers, Cowboys dynasties never had to videotape their opponents. I was born at night, just not last night
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    Good grief. If that’s truly what you believe, you’re about as naive as they come.

    Whether or not they videotaped signals or not, and they more than likely did, they all employed plenty of questionable tactics, just as the teams do these days.

    As an example, Bill Walsh was the architect of the malfunctioning headset scam, and Jerry Rice is an admitted cheater.

  30. When Lane Johnson said that the Patriots players weren’t happy, a lot of outraged fans said: well look at Gronk, do you see him sad??

    Now who do we have to look at?

  31. I hope they learned from the Dallas Cowboys and the Jerry Jones and Jimmie Johnson success problems. They had better cast their stupid pride aside for the good of the quest.

  32. cdace13 says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:30 am
    Im a Pats fan but I kind of see Bill’s point. He doesn’t TRULY know what’s in these products in the TB12 company. He’s probably worried about a PED being in there or something along those lines.
    He knows what his trainers are prescribing and they’re training methods.

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    There’s no PEDs in fresh fruits and vegetables.

  33. 1zzo says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:11 am
    Maybe Belichick knows something is up with Guerrero that could get them into a lot of trouble?

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    Or maybe he doesn’t want Guerrero to become the de facto team trainer when he isn’t using medical best practices. I would say it’s more likely that.

  34. Shut up tyla, it would be the greatest dynasty ever if it wasn’t created through cheating…say whatever you want but those asterisks aren’t going away, people don’t forget

  35. Isn’t the Boston Herald the same rag that printed the false story about the Patriots taping the Rams walk-through?

  36. But all the Pats fans were telling me that Guerrero and Bill actually have a GREAT relationship. And that Bill kicking him out of the building and plane was NO indication of a unhealthy relationship.

  37. your6ringsaremeaninglessnow says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:31 am
    TB12 is pseudoscientific nonsense. Don’t confuse correlation with causation. Brady and Gronk owe everything to Belichick.

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    You can’t say that completely. Some of it is not science… That’s for sure. However, some of it is logical and supported by nutritional science. Eating healthy, staying hydrated, maintaining flexibility of muscles instead of only lifting weights.

    Those are all smart things to do for injury prevention.

  38. bullcharger says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:40 am
    selgaeinla says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:25 am
    Looks like Lane Johnson was right all along.

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    All along when? He made those comments after the season was over.

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    Lane Johnson is also a PED head who does whatever he wants. Not the kind of guy I want on my team.

    Sore winner, too.

    Loser, really.

  39. andreboy1 says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:51 am
    But all the Pats fans were telling me that Guerrero and Bill actually have a GREAT relationship. And that Bill kicking him out of the building and plane was NO indication of a unhealthy relationship.

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    No one “kicked” anyone anywhere. It’s a simple adjustment of infrastructure internally and really isn’t news.

  40. sceaglesfan says:

    April 9, 2018 at 11:21 am

    To my knowledge the Steelers, 49ers, Cowboys dynasties never had to videotape their opponents. I was born at night, just not last night
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    Maybe not, but neither did the Pats. Also – the steelers had half the team juiced up on roids.

  41. takeyourpunishmentandquitwhininglikeababy says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:42 am
    Every story you read just convinces me that this team is coming apart at the seams. The discord within the organization is unprecedented. Obviously, blowing a Superbowl has had a profound effect on this franchise which is spiraling out of control.
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    Then comes the reg season and playoffs where you try to comprehend where it all. And together…..again!

  42. You can lay your head back on the ground.
    Let your hair fall all around.
    Offer up your best defense.
    But this is the end…
    This is the end- of the dynasty.

    It was the best ever, no doubt. They aren’t winning again.

  43. terripet says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:12 am
    Beginning of the end for the cheaters

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    The Colts ended in their last AFCCG son. Between tanking a season for Andrew Luck, pumping in fake crowd noise and not disclosing blatant injuries on the injury report no team has cheated more than the Colts over the past 15 years.

  44. TruFBFan says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:46 am
    The Truth says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:23 am
    @cugehost

    Obviously you were born in the 90’s and have no knowledge of the yankees , celtics, ucla bruins, montreal canadiens or ny isladers

    Or quite frankly the Steelers, Niners, or Cowboys – all of whom have equal or more rings, and lost less games along the way. Understand those runs weren’t with the same guys, but they sure didn’t take as long. Niners got their rings in less time than it took the Patriots to do it. They won 5 in 13 years.

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    LOL!

    Cap and Pre Cap.

    Comparing the pre cap era to now his beyond comical. NE would have like 8 rings by now and would go undefeated every other year, if they could have kept all their players and the league didn’t have a cheating commissioner making up scandals to steal 1st rd picks.

  45. Well, if you read the linked article. Shannon Sharpe is quoted as saying…”Mr. Kraft is paying his training staff hundreds of millions of dollars a year”…Wow, they make more than the players.

  46. Are the players going to rip into BB this season after he possibly cost them the superbowl using the “Bench My Best Corner While Nick Foles Shreds Us” Method?

  47. It’s not like the Herald has ever printed lies about the Patriots before, right. It’s not like they’ve ever had to issue an apology or a retraction, right?

  48. I don’t think the end of the Patriots dynasty is coming anytime soon. But I do think BB is showing the wear and tear of being an NFL coach. Benching Malcom Butler, feuding with his star players, noise around trading his backup QB….. That is the trouble with winning the Super Bowl. The expectations that come with that. Anything less is never enough and the pressure just builds. These things sound like emotional actions which are completely out of character for BB.

  49. nhpats says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:56 am
    terripet says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:12 am
    Beginning of the end for the cheaters

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    The Colts ended in their last AFCCG son. Between tanking a season for Andrew Luck, pumping in fake crowd noise and not disclosing blatant injuries on the injury report no team has cheated more than the Colts over the past 15 years.

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    *cough* Broncos *cough*

  50. eaglesnoles05 says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:55 am

    They aren’t winning again.
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    I bet they win another one before the Eagles win another one.

  51. Steelers facetime…cowboys go on vacation during playoff bye week(romo and witten) and the 49ers play stickum up.10 superbowls haters..ask a Patriots fan whats a losing season and he will ask whats that.

  52. Doing so In front of team is designed to stop others from starting. It shows no one is exempt or above the team. Got to give Coach credit for holding the line and not letting his superstars dictate how things work for the team. I’m on his side.

  53. Elvis once said to a colleague “One of us gotta go, I don’t think it’ll be me”

    I’ll let you guys figure out if Elvis in this case is Belichick or Guerrero

  54. jetsmmt says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:25 am
    I’m sure it didn’t faze Gronk
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    Riiiight.
    That’s why he’s wanting out of there.
    His feelings are made of the same thing his body is…… Glass.

  55. sceaglesfan says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:21 am
    To my knowledge the Steelers, 49ers, Cowboys dynasties never had to videotape their opponents. I was born at night, just not last night
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    Your knowledge is flawed then. All of those teams plus every other team has been taping their opponents for decades. Even using film before there was video. Its both legal and common.

  56. trubroncfan07 says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:19 am
    Funny how the NFL and media use the Patriots as a tool during every off season. Who cares.

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    ‘Reports’ and unnamed sources.

  57. If you can count the pats as a dynasty for 18 years by winning 5 championships, then you can count the canadiens winning in 86 and 93 to go along with their 5 in the late 70s. Same amount of years.

  58. takeyourpunishmentandquitwhininglikeababy says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:42 am
    Every story you read just convinces me that this team is coming apart at the seams. The discord within…
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    Every story? They just played an 8th bowl in 16yrs & Belichick isn’t happy a player eats avocado icecream – yeah, it’s real bad.

  59. So, what is BB to do, turn his operation over to Brady and his fitness guru? This is getting absurd. Brady’s longevity is because of good genetics and following a program religiously. If he followed the Patriot’s program that diligently he would get the same results.

  60. 1 comment on the bills story, 9 on the jags, 65 on the rams/Eagles (mostly Eagles fans gloating) 70 on the Packers story (mostly vikings fans) and 90 on the pats story, THAT’S why they constantly write articles about the Patriots, even when there’s no story.

  61. bostonsteve12 says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:10 am

    Big deal! Guerrero is not an employee of the Patriots and has no business being in their locker room, trainer facilities nor sideline. BB has every right to kick him out. Gronk aint retiring. He is not Gronk without the NFL; he is another celebrity with no publicity. Pats got him for, I think 1 more years.Given the abuse his body has taken THEN he may retire.btw, I am a hoge Patriot fans
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    I couldn’t agree more.

  62. dimi1919 says:
    April 9, 2018 at 12:38 pm

    If you can count the pats as a dynasty for 18 years by winning 5 championships, then you can count the canadiens winning in 86 and 93 to go along with their 5 in the late 70s. Same amount of years.

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    The Pats are not a dynasty right now. That ship sailed when Brady fumbled and the game was more or less over.

    They were a dynasty in the early 2000s, 3 rings in 4 seasons is a dynasty. 2 rings in 12 seasons is not. The bar has to be set high for the word dynasty. Dynasties are all about championships and nothing less. Otherwise you have to say the 1990-1994 Buffalo Bills were a dynasty and they lost 4 in a row. And at least the Bills did something the Pats have never done, go to 4 Super Bowls in a row. Pats haven’t even gone to 3 in a row.

  63. This report seems super credible. I hope the Patriots somehow manage to at least field a team this year despite the dire circumstances of seven straight AFC championship appearances plus multiple first round picks in the draft.

  64. dimi1919 says:
    April 9, 2018 at 12:38 pm

    If you can count the pats as a dynasty for 18 years by winning 5 championships, then you can count the canadiens winning in 86 and 93 to go along with their 5 in the late 70s. Same amount of years.
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    A sports dynasty isn’t just measured by the number of championships won.

  65. Whatever. BB is perfectly within his rights to remove Guerrero. There can’t be a sanctioned alternative to the training staff, especially during normal contact hours. I don’t think he can stop them from seeking treatment on their own time and the issue would only arise if there is a conflict in advice. At that point, there is some shaky ground to stand on for both sides.

  66. Medical experts once believed that ulcers were the result of diet and stress until they were proven wrong by two doctors who showed it was related to a virus.

    If this story is true — that’s a big if — the Pats need to go with what has proven to work for Brady and Gronk and not what their “experts” are insisting is not appropriate.

  67. Silver and Black attack says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:34 am
    And people still think the Jimmy G. trade was just “business”? Yeah right. Brady forced that to happen. I bet he knew Bill could see Jimmy was going to be pretty good.
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    of course it was business, what choice did the Pats have, Jimmy G. was drafted at what should have been the right time, until Brady pulled a Benjamin Button. I don’t think Bill thought JG was going to suck or he wouldn’t have drafted him in round 2.

  68. Braz says:

    The Pats are not a dynasty right now. That ship sailed when Brady fumbled and the game was more or less over.

    They were a dynasty in the early 2000s, 3 rings in 4 seasons is a dynasty. 2 rings in 12 seasons is not. The bar has to be set high for the word dynasty. Dynasties are all about championships and nothing less. Otherwise you have to say the 1990-1994 Buffalo Bills were a dynasty and they lost 4 in a row. And at least the Bills did something the Pats have never done, go to 4 Super Bowls in a row. Pats haven’t even gone to 3 in a row.

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    There have been exactly zero 3-peat Super Bowl champs in NFL history, so I guess there never has been a dynasty in the NFL?

    8 Super Bowl appearances and 5 titles in 17 years is an unprecedented run in NFL history, and is an even greater accomplishment in light of the free agency era and the greater number of franchises. Indisputable dynasty.

  69. I think the real reason is because Bill wants Gronk to start blocking on extra points again.

  70. sceaglesfan says:
    April 9, 2018 at 11:21 am
    To my knowledge the Steelers, 49ers, Cowboys dynasties never had to videotape their opponents. I was born at night, just not last night

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    Actually Cowher and Jimmy Johnson both publically said they tried it and found it didn’t work very well.

  71. I am not a BB fan, but I am with him on this decision. I think this trainer is doing something shady and BB found out. BB has been in the league for so long, so I am with him on this

  72. The Patriots and Belichick have not had a good off season in public view. However they have draft choices and a chance to get a back up for Brady and the future. The incident with Gronk in front of the team is part of football. However I have posted this before; Belichick’s treatment in the Super Bowl of Malcolm Butler will cause many players and potential free agents not to want a chance at a Super Bowl ring with the New England Patriots. I don’t care that it’s possibly the best coach ever in the NFL. If a Coach benches a player the way Belichick did in the Super Bowl. He has to win the game for there not to be a residual effect!

  73. Yes what Belichick and Pats have done has been impressive – even with all the help from the league, the referees, and the PATHETIC AFC East.

    That being said – Belichick has looked every bit as confused and overwhelmed on the sidelines when they lose as any other coach. I guess sometimes it takes more than the usual weak schedule, referees bending over backwards to help and a “Do your job” in order to get it done.

  74. Willie McGinest used Guerrero years ago to supplement the Pats S&C and expected other players to do the same to get an edge. I’m sure BB expects the players to listen to the Pats S&C staff as he should. Typical fake drama and angst.

  75. mack66 says:
    April 9, 2018 at 12:58 pm
    dimi1919 says:
    April 9, 2018 at 12:38 pm

    If you can count the pats as a dynasty for 18 years by winning 5 championships, then you can count the canadiens winning in 86 and 93 to go along with their 5 in the late 70s. Same amount of years.
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    A sports dynasty isn’t just measured by the number of championships won.

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    Really? Then I’ll go with the red wings. 25 straight playoff years. 6 presidents trophies and 4 Stanley cups.

  76. File this under No Big Deal, but it makes sense. If there’s any team that has formalized a Method For Success over time, this is it, and the last thing you want in that context is for unapproved alternate methods to start popping up, however well they may work for some individuals.

  77. mikespillane337 says:
    April 9, 2018 at 12:04 pm
    Steelers facetime…cowboys go on vacation during playoff bye week(romo and witten) and the 49ers play stickum up.10 superbowls haters..ask a Patriots fan whats a losing season and he will ask whats that.

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    Only Pats fans that weren’t alive in the 80s say that. The rest know what a losing season is.

  78. Yes what Belichick and Pats have done has been impressive – even with all the help from the league, the referees, and the PATHETIC AFC East.
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    The Patriots have had a better record OUTSIDE the division, and moreover the AFC East has among the best records overall against other divisions during this Patriots run. That’s just one of those things that gets tossed around with no basis in fact.

  79. It’s unreal how many people would love to see the Patriots implode. It could very well happen, and if it does, it was a great run. How many teams have had a run like this one? How many teams have kept their fans happy for this long? I still don’t think they’re done just yet.

  80. It was probably tongue in cheek. He could has easily “ripped” the players that were following a paleo diet, or vegans. So what? I don’t see how it would make much a difference. If he believes his dietary decisions make him feel better and perform well, who is anyone else to judge? It would be like Belichick ripping him for his taste in women. As long as he’s running his routes correctly and showing up to team meetings- it shouldn’t matter.

  81. Really? Then I’ll go with the red wings. 25 straight playoff years. 6 presidents trophies and 4 Stanley cups.
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    It would be very wrong not to count the Red Wings as dynasty. They were a great hockey dynasty until the draft system designed to punish success eventually caught up with them.

  82. Sounds like things are falling apart in New England. Belichicks probably still steaming from the superbowl loss since he couldn’t cheat to win this year.

  83. “Whatever Guerrero is doing with Brady and Gronkowski, it seems to be working”

    Not a logical conclusion, but we’ve been here before. There are a lot of reasons Tom Brady is Tom Brady and Gronk is Gronk. Also a lot of issues with Alex and his beliefs but certainly some of his ideas are useful.

  84. Pats fan here. Honestly, BB should stick to Xs and Os…if Gronk and Brady want to slather each other with avocado puree, who gives a damn. Clearly Brady is on to something. Just coach, Coach. Ripping guys for training methods is poor. Rip guys for on-field shortcomings or conduct unbecoming to the franchise, that’s it.

  85. dimi1919 says
    “Then I’ll go with the red wings. 25 straight playoff years. 6 presidents trophies and 4 Stanley cups.”

    They had some great years, no doubt about it, but how many of those 25 years were played in a 6 team league?

  86. This whole thing is based on “reports” – no names, just “reports”.

    (BTW – that rumor has been around for awhile.)

    To me it has the distinct odor of a story made from nothing – need to post something so you can keep your name out there, so grab a rumor, (about the Pats if possible) embellish it with a few unsubstantiated ‘facts’ and then put it out there.

  87. God forbid a boss rips a very well paid employee a new one in front of the rest of his employees. Especially a very well paid employee who’s past history shows said employee is totally unreliable to be available when the team needs him most. I’m a life long Patriots fan from the mid 60’s and suffered through many embarrassing seasons and it is simply amazing to me that this franchise ended up where they are today. The reason it did is because this organization is run like a business and hard personnel decisions have had to be made. If one of those decisions is to cut ties with #87 for the benefit of the team I for one am more than okay with it. Do Your Job. Simple and obviously quite effective.

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