Bob Quinn spent two years pitching Matt Patricia to the Lions

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The Lions hired coach Matt Patricia earlier this year. Lions G.M. Bob Quinn apparently wanted to make the hire two years earlier.

“I had heard about Matt from Bob for two years before we had the chance to meet and as I think I told him recently, I think he undersold him, and he was selling him,” team president Rod Wood said at a Monday night even for season-ticket holders via Dave Birkett of the Detroit Free Press. “So I think the relationship is strong, the language they speak, the trust. The ability I think to build the team through kind of one long-term vision of what we’re going to be about and this is probably the first time I’ve sat between them since they’ve been in town. They’re together all the time.”

After Quinn got the job in early 2016, he decided to keep coach Jim Caldwell. After Caldwell took the team to the playoffs in 2016, Caldwell got another year — along with an extension that didn’t provide Caldwell much financial security. After 2017, the time was right to make the move that Quinn likely wanted to make the moment he arrived.

Which, frankly, is how it should be. Every G.M. wants to hire his own coach. While an arranged marriage between G.M. and coach sometimes works, it usually doesn’t, with the G.M. simply waiting for the right moment to make the change. By waiting for two years to hire Patricia, the Lions delayed by two years the potential benefits of the things that Quinn and Patricia will be able to accomplish while working together, fully and completely on the same page.

16 responses to “Bob Quinn spent two years pitching Matt Patricia to the Lions

  1. Things bode well as long as there is no interference from up top. The problem with BB proteges in the past, is owner meddling and not hiring a good coach to go with the protege.

    Only in Atlanta can you really say it’s worked.

    The Browns were incredible morons with Mike Lombardi and Pioli couldn’t get a good candidate available in KC.

    The owner has to be good and stay out of the way, and the GM/Coach have to see things exactly the same, at least within approach of building a team.

    Good by Detroit by setting it up the right way.

  2. Patricia will have a guaranteed losing record this year with the 3rd toughest schedule-
    they did however solidify one of their biggest weaknesses in improving linebacker and covering middle route plays
    4-12 season, Vikings, Packers, Bears , Lions in that order

  3. Good to know Jim Caldwell got a fair shake. He led the perennial loser Lions to 2 playoff appearances and had the best 4 year record by a Lions coach in recent memory.

  4. Well, his defense got hosed during the last Super Bowl, giving up 40 points to a backup QB and costing his team the game. Seems like a good hire.

  5. NFC North is a three team race between the Lions, Vikes, and Bears. As a Lions fan, I fear the Bears more than the Vikes in 2018, but still believe the Lions will shock the pundits and win the division. Cousins will be a disappointment in Minnesota. Packers are falling apart at the seams.

  6. I would like to say Bob Quinn would be fired infouryears,but this is franchise that gave free pass to Matt millen.

    Bob Quinn is a sore lower and Jim Caldwell is a winner and had proved it in indy, Baltimore and detroit.

    Good to know that Bob Quinn had an agenda taking over as a GM and that’s not good,

  7. .
    There were very few All Pros on Patricia’s Patriot defenses. He did an excellent job with a lot of cast-offs, rejects and guys nearing the end of the line. Rarely did the Patriots spend a lot in personnel capital defensively during Patricia’s term as DC.
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  8. Which, frankly, is how it should be. Every G.M. wants to hire his own coach. While an arranged marriage between G.M. and coach sometimes works, it usually doesn’t, with the G.M. simply waiting for the right moment to make the change.

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    Everyone says this, but does it really? I tend to recall more times than not these GM/coach package deals failing way more than not and actually the arrangements or rather the ones where the owner didn’t hire a GM yes man working out way more than these GMs installing their “guys,” most recently with Gettleman/Rivera. Often, it’s failed spectacularly.

  9. Things bode well as long as there is no interference from up top. The problem with BB proteges in the past, is owner meddling and not hiring a good coach to go with the protege.
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    Josh McDaniels was given keys to the kingdom in Denver. He succeeded a guy that had more power than any coach in the League at the time (Shanahan)

    Don’t read much about Woody Johnson trying to run his football operation (Mangini)

    Rac couldn’t have worked for more hands off owners than the Hunts and Al Lerner. (although its probably more fair to call him a Belichick peer than disciple)

    The problem with Belichick proteges is, there is only one Bill Belichick.

  10. 6ball says:
    April 10, 2018 at 11:35 am
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    There were very few All Pros on Patricia’s Patriot defenses. He did an excellent job with a lot of cast-offs, rejects and guys nearing the end of the line. Rarely did the Patriots spend a lot in personnel capital defensively during Patricia’s term as DC.
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    Oh, I don’t know. The Pats have very good players on their defense.

    Hightower is the best MLB in the AFC and his presence was sorely missed in the Super Bowl. Gilmore is a Pro Bowl level guy, as is McCourty. Throw in Trey Flowers emergence, taking on double teams, and I’d say they have some nice pieces.

    Also, Van Noy, is apparently WILDLY underrated. He’d be the Steelers best LB right now if he played there.

    And, Branch played at an All Pro level in 2016. 2017? Not so much. That one hurt.

  11. The GM-Coach command is a lot of stuff. If either is not good enough at their job to work with the other, dump them both for incompetence. Part of leadership dictates the ability to work with superior/inferior mates.

  12. Wonder why Quinn was so sold on Patricia being that much better than other NE assistants that have been abismal as HCs… Time will tell at least he has a QB to build around…

  13. 700levelvet says:
    April 10, 2018 at 11:23 am
    Well, his defense got hosed during the last Super Bowl, giving up 40 points to a backup QB and costing his team the game. Seems like a good hire.

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    this makes no sense. philly’s “vaunted” got lit up, too. it was a shootout style game

    you people act like philly’s d played well

    also, philly was gifted 2 tds that were not tds (fact).

  14. “By waiting for two years to hire Patricia, the Lions delayed by two years the potential benefits of the things that Quinn and Patricia will be able to accomplish while working together, fully and completely on the same page.”

    The delay part is technically true but it’s not entirely realistic to expect a first time GM is going to come in and immediately fire a coach that had returned a moribund franchise to respectability. Caldwell was the only Detroit coach in 60+ years to leave the Lions with a winning record, the man earned the respect he was shown.

  15. This article isn’t about Phillys defensive coordinator is it now genius. So, Brady has the greatest statistical game in Super Bowl history, and this new HC gave up 40 points to a backup QB, and they lost. Seems like a good hire.

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