Does Jarvis Landry deal affect Browns’ quarterback plans?

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The Browns are expected to sign Jarvis Landry to a five-year, $75 million contract that would make him one of the highest-paid wide receivers in the NFL. But who will be throwing Landry passes for the next five years?

If it’s going to be Wyoming quarterback Josh Allen, whom many think the Browns are leaning toward taking with the first overall pick in the draft, then he’d seem to be an odd pairing with Landry.

What Landry primarily does is catch short passes, and a lot of them. Last season led the NFL with 112 catches, but he averaged just 8.8 yards per catch, and his total of 987 receiving yards was 17th in the NFL.

The reason the Browns might draft Allen first overall is that he has the strongest arm in the draft. If you expect Allen to be your franchise quarterback for years to come, you should be spending money on receivers who will make plays deep downfield, not possession receivers like Landry.

So the Browns’ decision to sign Landry to a lucrative extension could indicate that they’re not, contrary to some reports, zooming in on Allen as the first pick in the draft. Or it could mean they’re going to try to turn Allen into a quarterback who can be accurate on short passes — something he wasn’t in college.

51 responses to “Does Jarvis Landry deal affect Browns’ quarterback plans?

  1. 5 year $75 mil for a slot receiver that is not even the best on the team….just wow.

    Landry won this trade.
    Miami won this trade.
    Browns lost their minds!

  2. If Allen goes to the Browns, there’s like a 75% chance he’ll bust. Inaccurate passer + small school + NFL team with poor player development + franchise reputation for giving up on QBs + unstable front office + consistent nasty weather = bust.

  3. Just because you have a strong arm doesn’t mean you’re only going to be throwing 40-50 yard bombs all game. You can squeeze short and intermediate passes in to tighter windows too, those passes will be the majority that he throws

  4. Josh Allen’s stats are only comparable to Kyle Boller and Patrick Ramsey who were selected in round 1. He is an awful prospect if you pick him in round 1. Every advanced stat and analysis shows that he will have a career path of a bust. So for a 1-31 team, do you gamble on a guy who has so many flaws too overcome, who’s likelyhood of succeeding is so low? At this point, the dinosaur executives are just cheering for him to succeed than being truthful about his flaws

  5. Or maybe Allen’s low %age rate was a reflection of his receivers, and the Browns think that Landry will make Allen look good on the underneath stuff.

  6. A strong armed QB who can throw deep accurately can learn how to throw the short pass…

    But, a weak-armed QB may not ever gain the arm strength needed to throw deep, accurately.

  7. Josh Allen deep pass completion to Jarvis Landry happens how many times a year times 5 years divided into 75 million equals how much per catch?

  8. Gordon & Coleman run deep routes should there not be a WR who run the short routes in case they’re not open?

  9. In 3-4 years his contract could look like a bargain with the way salaries are exploding…..

  10. If the Browns draft Allen number one, it will be another in a long line of epic fails. He is ryan Leaf, part II.

  11. Juice has great hands and is solid after the catch. He is the latest receiver to sign so of course he will be one of the top paid. I don’t think he is a true #1 but he’s amongst the best #2s in the game. Besides, they already have a #1 in Gordon still playing on a rookie’s salary.

    This signing has no bearing on which QB they will take.

  12. I was an Allen fan early on. But the more I look at the QB possibilities, the more I understand why so many think Darnold should go first. He may not be the best in any category, but he’s really, really good in just about every category. He’s the safest QB prospect in the draft.

  13. Perhaps the Browns aren’t planning to take Josh Allen first? Who believes any reports that come out before the draft?

    Anyway, they have Gordon and Coleman for deep passes. It helps to have a diversified skill set in your wide receivers regardless of whom your quarterback is.

  14. “If you expect Allen to be your franchise quarterback for years to come, you should be spending money on receivers who will make plays deep downfield, not possession receivers like Landry.”

    Flawed logic as any complete team needs both. When those deep receivers aren’t or can’t get open you still need someone else to throw the ball to.

  15. “If a quarterback is valuable, then it only stands to reason that a fullback must be 4x as valuable.” —Jets

  16. macbull says:
    April 12, 2018 at 1:15 pm
    A strong armed QB who can throw deep accurately can learn how to throw the short pass…

    But, a weak-armed QB may not ever gain the arm strength needed to throw deep, accurately
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    But Allen did not throw deep accurately. He did not throw intermediate accurately. He did not throw short accurately. He was 0-3 against mid tier Division 1A schools and he played terribly. He didn’t throw for many yards or TD’s and nothing about his game performance was outstanding.

    He had a very forgettable College career, but yet has somehow catapulted himself to potential #1 pick because he has a strong arm and because Wentz is so good?!!!

    Dude is a mediocre QB. Buyer beware.

  17. Well, if the Browns select Josh Allen #1 it will mean they will be picking in the top half of the draft for a few more years in the future. Maybe they’ll find the right QB in 2019…or 2020…or 2021…

  18. walleye436 says:
    April 12, 2018 at 1:24 pm
    In 3-4 years his contract could look like a bargain with the way salaries are exploding…..

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    which will mean he will hold out with 2 years remaining like every other guy who feels “short-changed” and didnt have the foresight to see that their front loaded deal wont match up with the new contracts

  19. Browns fans you have a very expensive slot receiver or no.2 but have also my favourite Dolphin player since Zack Thomas. You will enjoy his play style. I don’t think we saw the best of him but you might. My only concern is that he seems to seek out contact and generally smashes through corners even backers instead of taking the sideline and that might catch up with him as he gets older, but he’s quite a big lump so more than likely can take it.

  20. I would argue that Landry was stuck on Miami with no QB to throw him the long ball. Doesn’t mean hes a short pass WR, just means hes been stuck with Tannehill who stinks… but what do I know

  21. I don’t agree with the logic here, but hey it’s an idea. I watched Allen vs Iowa 2017 tape. It was so bad. Granted the supporting cast around him wasn’t great, but there were a lot of mistakes squarely on Allen’s shoulders. He completed 1 pass the entire game that went to his second read and it was a 4 yard out. There were 2 drops, but he wasn’t hampered by 5+ drops like Jackson. Even when he has a clean pocket he looks to escape. Allen is very strong and a good athlete, but he’s basically Blake Bortles as a QB. Not an accurate passer. He over threw WRs from under 10 yards at least 5 times. He over threw guys many times. He forced passes one of them on a 10 yard that was picked and was one OL from being a pick 6. He threw an INT to a DT on RB screen. He missed way to many guys on pass 10 yards or less. He had another 3 throws that were near picks as well. Lost by double digit points, only scored 3, looked overwhelmed and lost the entire time.

  22. Jarvis Landry caught more passes in his fist 3 seasons than any other player in NFL history. Think about that. What QB wouldn’t want this? Getting caught up in arm strength leads you to Jamarcus Russell and Akili Smith. And based on TylerHills’ analysis (the post above), Allen is going to need all the short game help he can get. So what was the point of this article again?

  23. Landry would be the best on any team he was on, except maybe the Steelers or Atlanta. They guy has his flaws, but he is money in the slot and his stats speak for themselves. Bad QB and still got 400 catches and 4000 yards in 4 years – which I believe no one has done including the “vaunted” ants on the Patriots also known as slot receivers.

    But the question is an invalid one. What CLE is trying to do is create a dynamic offense. That means slot receivers, receivers that can stretch the field, and everything in between. Add a RB1 to the equation and you start making things difficult on a defense. Allen isn’t my first choice for QB (not at all) but while he can apparently throw the length of the field, I am pretty sure he can also throw into the slot, out of the backfield, and everywhere else.

  24. Josh Allan will figure out how to hit Landry with a 2 yard pass. The issue is with Landry; He came from the Dolphin’s dump off very low rated offense. He caught a lot of passes but the team had trouble picking up first downs and getting time of possession. Many teams had an issue with a slower slot receiver who ran close to a 4.8 at the combine and wanted a $15M per year contract. The Browns have other weapons so perhaps it will work out. However it’s Cleveland and it’s the Browns. Basically only the Browns were interested in giving Landry a $15M per year long term contract.

  25. According to you reasoning, then the Browns want the best short yardage passer in the draft. That, by a far margin, would be Mayfield as his critics keep harping on how the OK offense had their majority of plays on short throws. And clearly, Mayfield (at over 70% completion rate) excelled that the short yardage game.

  26. Allen might be a great pick–in like the 3rd round where you’d have time to patiently develop him without the media and fans calling him a bust if he’s not starting Week 1 of his rookie year. Teams totally lose their minds when it comes to drafting QBs and oddly the less they know about guys the more they fall in love with them.

  27. “This just in…Gronk retires and Kraft can’t seem to get Brady to take his calls.”

    You’re living in a fantasyland. I feel pity for you.

  28. I would think the QB they think is best won’t be determined by the receivers they have. Otherwise Browns are in trouble-again.

  29. Peeps, you’re all over-thinking this QB stuff. No way you would develop a QB room with Cam(eron) Newton and TB12 (Brady), any more than you would with DaBreeze (Brees) and Philip Rivers lol. They are stylistically different quarterbacks. Browns acquired T-Rod, so you take Baker Mayfield who most closely resembles the type of dynamic QB (pass with the threat of a run like Newton/Rodgers et al.) that you require for the style of Offense you want to install. This is all “ ABC Mouse” stuff, peeps.

  30. That would be SO Browns to do. Sign a receiver that catches short passes to pair with a draft QB who throws bombs that are no where near anyone.

  31. Miami offense was hampered by a slot wr who ran his routes, not the plays routes. It became known he would cut off routes, or run them shorter than the coach wanted. Leading to a lot of 3 and outs. Hes a high volume wr, on a team that had no TE and a RB who struggled to catch the ball out of the backfield.

    Oh and lest not forget his career year in scoring was last year with 9, his 1st 3 seasons he avg 4.

  32. Josh Allen can throw long passes and short passes very well. Jarvis Landry can run short routes, intermediate routes, and long routes very well. What each of these players did in the past was a reflection of what they were asked to do in completely different offensive schemes than they’d be playing in for the Browns. What Landry was asked to do in Miami was also a reflection of the limitations of his QB. Allen doesn’t have those same limitations. If Allen can throw long, wouldn’t that automatically mean that he can throw short? Is this an April Fools Day joke or something? I remember when Jerry Rice was too slow coming out of college. How many bombs did he catch from Montana? I guess the QB has a little bit to do with what the receivers can do.

  33. I don’t understand how anyone can criticize this deal. Cleveland is made up of mostly rookies and draft picks who are nowhere near the vicinity of their second contract. All of Landry’s guaranteed money and large cap hits will be gone by the time Cleveland needs to think about re signing some of their own. They now have a sure underneath receiver for their rookie QB. Cleveland made a great deal for their situation

  34. Relax! How much of it is true? How much is guaranteed? How many times have people fallen for smoke and mirrors. The initial report is $75 million only to find out that perhaps $25-$30 is guaranteed.

  35. “God the Browns do nothing in free agency and are hoarding their money!” – Pretty much everyone

    Browns sign a proven reliable receiver to a fair market contract (Yes he doesn’t average 15 yards a catch but if Jimmy G can get a contract for close to 30 million a year after 7 starts, seems ok) – “What the hell are the Browns doing trading for a receiver AND THEN signing him to an extension?!?!”

  36. Well 1 of his 5 years he will be catching passes from Tyrod Taylor who does specialize in short passes which is good because the Browns are practically an all star team there with David Njoku and Duke Johnson also there (Johnson being someone they’re also trying to keep long term).

    This also means they will be so dangerous with so many weapons up front that a wide open Josh Gordon (and to a lesser extent Corey Coleman) is a strong possibility as it was several times last season which couldn’t be taken advantage of due to how inaccurate their rookie QB was.

    In other words it makes perfect sense but only to people who watched the Browns that they’re creating a mismatch situation to where the play calling can help any QB.

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